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...you like has done something you disapprove of, does it affect how you relate to their art? If it turns out that a singer is racist, a film director has behaved inappropriately on set, or that a writer is a bigot or abuser - can you still experience their work in the same way, or is it tainted for you by what the artist did? |
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I won't purchase/support anything new, but I can enjoy what I already own.
I believe that art is a dialect between what exists and those consuming them. (I also try not to do things that financially support crappy people) |
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By (user no longer on site) 17 weeks ago
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I think there's a line in what you're willing to accept or forget. I do find that once that line is crossed, then I can't enjoy their art without thinking of what they did. |
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"I won't purchase/support anything new, but I can enjoy what I already own."
Yep, same here. My relationship to that artist is changed. My relationship to the prior art is too, but not to same degree. |
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Had never considered this, but thinking about it now, quite possibly depending on what they had done.
Back in the early 90’s I had tickets to see Garry Glitter. My ex wife Sister was rushed to hospital so we never went. Quite pleased we didn’t now (notwithstanding the reason). |
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"I think there's a line in what you're willing to accept or forget. I do find that once that line is crossed, then I can't enjoy their art without thinking of what they did. "
Ok, that may actually be a lie as I still watch WWE despite Vince McMahon's actions but I justify that as he's not there anymore  |
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By *inaTitzTV/TS 17 weeks ago
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It depends on what they've done. An act whom I really respected was found to have had reprehensible content on his laptop - beyond doubt, as they plead guilty - and whilst they no longer gig, it's totally ruined them for me. |
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I think I can separate things in my head reasonably.
An example in a musical context would be that I could still listen too and enjoy what I had already experienced, but am less likely to be listening to any new output, but would judge any I did hear on its merits.
If that makes any sense. |
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By *ib.Man 17 weeks ago
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"It’s a great question.
Ferdinand Porsche was a nazi. So was Hugo Boss. Yet people admire and want their art. Even the very people they in their own time, believed should be destroyed.
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Is there a timescale when someone is admonished from their actions?
Most(a lot) of established brands have a pretty dubious history.
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"It’s a great question.
Ferdinand Porsche was a nazi. So was Hugo Boss. Yet people admire and want their art. Even the very people they in their own time, believed should be destroyed.
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To what extent do we separate the company from their origins or their past? (Not a pointed question, an open question)
Ford was a piece of shit. Kellog wasn't great either. For example |
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"It’s a great question.
Ferdinand Porsche was a nazi. So was Hugo Boss. Yet people admire and want their art. Even the very people they in their own time, believed should be destroyed.
Is there a timescale when someone is admonished from their actions?
Most(a lot) of established brands have a pretty dubious history.
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My point exactly. Does time and distance change that perception of person and their art? Can the artist villain be rehabilitated through their art? |
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"It’s a great question.
Ferdinand Porsche was a nazi. So was Hugo Boss. Yet people admire and want their art. Even the very people they in their own time, believed should be destroyed.
To what extent do we separate the company from their origins or their past? (Not a pointed question, an open question)
Ford was a piece of shit. Kellog wasn't great either. For example "
Also great examples. |
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By *ascaIMan 17 weeks ago
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"I think there's a line in what you're willing to accept or forget. I do find that once that line is crossed, then I can't enjoy their art without thinking of what they did.
Ok, that may actually be a lie as I still watch WWE despite Vince McMahon's actions but I justify that as he's not there anymore "
AEW could really do with your support. |
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"ehhh not really, I don't have an issue separating the art from the artist. Much less so a film too, writing off hundreds of people's work because of one person is a bit dense."
Yeah, me too. I think very little of Graham Linehan for example, but still enjoy watching Father Ted and the others. |
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By *ib.Man 17 weeks ago
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"It’s a great question.
Ferdinand Porsche was a nazi. So was Hugo Boss. Yet people admire and want their art. Even the very people they in their own time, believed should be destroyed.
A conundrum indeed.
I think people just have short memories.
Or maybe it's just more convenient to just forget?
Life is short.
It's not a great precedent to set though.
Is there a timescale when someone is admonished from their actions?
Most(a lot) of established brands have a pretty dubious history.
My point exactly. Does time and distance change that perception of person and their art? Can the artist villain be rehabilitated through their art? "
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By (user no longer on site) 17 weeks ago
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"I think there's a line in what you're willing to accept or forget. I do find that once that line is crossed, then I can't enjoy their art without thinking of what they did.
Ok, that may actually be a lie as I still watch WWE despite Vince McMahon's actions but I justify that as he's not there anymore
AEW could really do with your support. "
I've tried, but I really can't get into it. It feels like you have to spend your life on the internet to get some of the references they do. |
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"ehhh not really, I don't have an issue separating the art from the artist. Much less so a film too, writing off hundreds of people's work because of one person is a bit dense.
Yeah, me too. I think very little of Graham Linehan for example, but still enjoy watching Father Ted and the others. "
Father Ted is excellent |
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"JK Rowling - Discuss."
I won't purchase/support anything new, but I can enjoy what I already own.
I believe that art is a dialect between what exists and those consuming them. (I also try not to do things that financially support crappy people) |
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By *ascaIMan 17 weeks ago
Cheshire Liverpool Manchester |
"I think there's a line in what you're willing to accept or forget. I do find that once that line is crossed, then I can't enjoy their art without thinking of what they did.
Ok, that may actually be a lie as I still watch WWE despite Vince McMahon's actions but I justify that as he's not there anymore
AEW could really do with your support.
I've tried, but I really can't get into it. It feels like you have to spend your life on the internet to get some of the references they do."
I’ve only seen the odd clip trending on Twitter. Watching someone attempt a promo with zero crowd reaction because there’s literally no crowd is painful viewing 😅 |
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"Yeah, me too. I think very little of Graham Linehan for example, but still enjoy watching Father Ted and the others.
Father Ted is excellent "
Well yes, I wouldn’t watch it if it wasn’t!
"I won’t listen to Lost Prophets anymore, so I guess the answer is yes.
But then again I am a hypocrite because I’ll happily listen to Elvis "
Unless I’ve missed something here, they’re hardly in the same league. |
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