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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
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Some time ago I read Naomi Wolf's 'The Beauty Myth'. It was a real eye-opener. There was a quote from a leading scientist (cannot remember which one) who stated quite categorically that there was not a single cream at all which could prevent the development of wrinkles. Wrinkles develop deep in the dermis whereas most 'anti-wrinkle' creams only touch the surface of the skin.
Now, they may reduce the 'appearance' of wrinkles usually because they contain something like Retin-A which reacts with the skin by stripping it of the top layer. The skin, feeling that it is under attack, actually thickens in order to protect itself. This, in turn, can cause the wrinkles to deepen - and so the cycle continues. Women need to continually use these creams more and more to achieve the desired effects but are actually making the problem worse. No wonder that the facial cream industry is worth billions!
This same scientist stated his surprise at the gullibility of women for spending HUGE amounts of money on such creams - including educated and intelligent women.
I spend nothing whatsoever on such creams. As I age, I age. It has never worried me - and never will. |
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over a year ago
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One of the creams voted "best" was actually £2.49 and stocked by Aldi .. there shelves emptied within hours of this being published.
I use simple or olay |
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I use a moisturiser to keep my skin supple....all over...don't care what it claims to be. I hate that tight skin feeling. At the moment using a Boots one about £2 for a big bottle..love the smell and not greasy. THAT is what's important for me
If it was that easy stars would not be resulting to surgery... |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"I use a moisturiser to keep my skin supple....all over...don't care what it claims to be. I hate that tight skin feeling. At the moment using a Boots one about £2 for a big bottle..love the smell and not greasy. THAT is what's important for me
If it was that easy stars would not be resulting to surgery..."
Moisturiser is not the same as 'anti-wrinkle' creams. Moisturisers can help the skin - particularly in very cold, windy weather. They can provide protection - like a sun block, I suppose. But 'anti-wrinkle' creams claim to make you look younger when, in fact, they help to age the skin prematurely. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Apparently anti wrinkle creams only need to contain sun block in it to be classed as an anti wrinkle cream... I heard that somewhere, possibly on tv many moons ago. These companies seem to try and spew out as much 'scientific' jargon at you to make it sound like some miracle cream. In actual fact they are just naming things like proteins in a fancier more complex sounding way.
Better off just getting a decent moisturiser with a hint of sun block in it to keep your skin hydrated and keep away sun damage (not that we ever see the sun anyways!). |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Apparently anti wrinkle creams only need to contain sun block in it to be classed as an anti wrinkle cream... I heard that somewhere, possibly on tv many moons ago. These companies seem to try and spew out as much 'scientific' jargon at you to make it sound like some miracle cream. In actual fact they are just naming things like proteins in a fancier more complex sounding way.
Better off just getting a decent moisturiser with a hint of sun block in it to keep your skin hydrated and keep away sun damage (not that we ever see the sun anyways!). "
Yup I agree - the pseudo-scientific guff is really laughable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Hahahahahaha n it ain't just you gals who hit the creams!
I've moisturized since I was bout 16 - everyday so been doing it for DECADES!
I used to use nivea then n now use dove
I don't bother with those aimed at male market cos they all the same thing just 'butcher ' looking packaging
I've always had excellent skin - but then so did both my parents so it's probably more hereditary than anything but no harm looking after it
I also moisturize my body with Aveena |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Hahahahahaha n it ain't just you gals who hit the creams!
I've moisturized since I was bout 16 - everyday so been doing it for DECADES!
I used to use nivea then n now use dove
I don't bother with those aimed at male market cos they all the same thing just 'butcher ' looking packaging
I've always had excellent skin - but then so did both my parents so it's probably more hereditary than anything but no harm looking after it
I also moisturize my body with Aveena"
I think you are right - a lot is simple genetics. All the creams you can buy will not change what is, essentially, programmed into our DNA from conception! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Aaah, I wish my man would take a leaf out your book. I keep telling him that the stuff he buys - which is all aimed at men - is no better than what I use! Costs an absolute fortune too!
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
(She/ her) in Sensualityland |
"Hahahahahaha n it ain't just you gals who hit the creams!
I've moisturized since I was bout 16 - everyday so been doing it for DECADES!
I used to use nivea then n now use dove
I don't bother with those aimed at male market cos they all the same thing just 'butcher ' looking packaging
I've always had excellent skin - but then so did both my parents so it's probably more hereditary than anything but no harm looking after it
I also moisturize my body with Aveena"
I have not really ever moisturised my skin mainly because I cannot be bothered to spend hours on a daily routine - that said when my skin goes a bit dry Aveeno is indeed a fabulous moisturiser. Made from colloidal oats it is recommended for anybody with eczema and other skin conditions. Some people can even get it on prescription  |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"I use nivea. It's in a proper man container too. It looks as though you could use it up mountains or almost certainly when faced with an attacking crocodile."
Do they have those in Brighton?;-)
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By (user no longer on site)
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Advance warning gals
Regrettably for many folk as ya get older skin gets drier n modern central heating don't help
I massage for a living these days (yes happy endings included lol) n find many clients particularly get dry elbows n the men very dry knees
Moisturizer is only an 'on surface' solution but does the job
N I agree Aveeno is by far the best available |
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"Some time ago I read Naomi Wolf's 'The Beauty Myth'. It was a real eye-opener. There was a quote from a leading scientist (cannot remember which one) who stated quite categorically that there was not a single cream at all which could prevent the development of wrinkles. Wrinkles develop deep in the dermis whereas most 'anti-wrinkle' creams only touch the surface of the skin.
Now, they may reduce the 'appearance' of wrinkles usually because they contain something like Retin-A which reacts with the skin by stripping it of the top layer. The skin, feeling that it is under attack, actually thickens in order to protect itself. This, in turn, can cause the wrinkles to deepen - and so the cycle continues. Women need to continually use these creams more and more to achieve the desired effects but are actually making the problem worse. No wonder that the facial cream industry is worth billions!
This same scientist stated his surprise at the gullibility of women for spending HUGE amounts of money on such creams - including educated and intelligent women.
I spend nothing whatsoever on such creams. As I age, I age. It has never worried me - and never will."
Let's not forget Wolf's book is a best selling feminist polemic, not a scientific review of beauty products. Whether anti ageing creams work or not, is irrelevant, her argument is why we feel the need to use them.
Some might argue that Wolf herself epitomises the very image she seeks to condemn.
Of course it's true there is no magic bullet that make wrinkles dissapear, as yet. However to completely disregard any skin care will, and does, hasten the the deterioration process. |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Some time ago I read Naomi Wolf's 'The Beauty Myth'. It was a real eye-opener. There was a quote from a leading scientist (cannot remember which one) who stated quite categorically that there was not a single cream at all which could prevent the development of wrinkles. Wrinkles develop deep in the dermis whereas most 'anti-wrinkle' creams only touch the surface of the skin.
Now, they may reduce the 'appearance' of wrinkles usually because they contain something like Retin-A which reacts with the skin by stripping it of the top layer. The skin, feeling that it is under attack, actually thickens in order to protect itself. This, in turn, can cause the wrinkles to deepen - and so the cycle continues. Women need to continually use these creams more and more to achieve the desired effects but are actually making the problem worse. No wonder that the facial cream industry is worth billions!
This same scientist stated his surprise at the gullibility of women for spending HUGE amounts of money on such creams - including educated and intelligent women.
I spend nothing whatsoever on such creams. As I age, I age. It has never worried me - and never will.
Let's not forget Wolf's book is a best selling feminist polemic, not a scientific review of beauty products. Whether anti ageing creams work or not, is irrelevant, her argument is why we feel the need to use them.
Some might argue that Wolf herself epitomises the very image she seeks to condemn.
Of course it's true there is no magic bullet that make wrinkles dissapear, as yet. However to completely disregard any skin care will, and does, hasten the the deterioration process. "
Yes, I know what the book is. I was simply quoting one small section of it, not attempting to discuss the wider feminist ramifications of the political stance.
I also have not advocated ignoring any care of the skin, body or anything else. I am arguing that 'anti-wrinkle' creams are pointless and a waste of money. |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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Of course it's true there is no magic bullet that make wrinkles dissapear, as yet. However to completely disregard any skin care will, and does, hasten the the deterioration process. "
You are probably right - I do believe though that genetic disposition plays an important part. My grandmother and mother had good skin and never did very much to protect and moisturise it - I do hear what you are saying about the aging process hastening. Maybe I should start to invest in some now  |
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A well advertised cream offered you samples of their cream and a chart showing wrinkles starting with what you look like now and hopefully what you would look like after using their cream. As I looked better than the end result I didn't bother.
I genuinly believe a lot is in your genes. My Mum had the most fantastic skin and only aged after she became ill with cancer.
I've always had greasy skin, cursed it when I was a teenager, so hopefully that is the reason I'm not bad for an old un |
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"A well advertised cream offered you samples of their cream and a chart showing wrinkles starting with what you look like now and hopefully what you would look like after using their cream. As I looked better than the end result I didn't bother.
I genuinly believe a lot is in your genes. My Mum had the most fantastic skin and only aged after she became ill with cancer.
I've always had greasy skin, cursed it when I was a teenager, so hopefully that is the reason I'm not bad for an old un "
Yes id agree with u! I think oily skin (the curse of the teenager! ) probably self moisturises to a great degree n when u leave those years behind n with good skin care u can have healthy glowing skin. Of course sum teenagers with oily skin development blocked pores spots acne etc which can leave scarring
I've observed skin closely over the years n oily skin seems to gave deeper more open pores |
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By *adybee77Woman
over a year ago
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Never used an anti wrinkle cream, and don't intend to.
I've used nivea moisturiser for about 20 years now - just the standard soft cream, and often get told I don't look my age.
I think I take after my dad because he doesn't look like he's in his mid 60s now (altho I ditched the beard - it just wasn't me lol) altho my mother last time I saw her looked like she needed a damn good iron! |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Never used an anti wrinkle cream, and don't intend to.
I've used nivea moisturiser for about 20 years now - just the standard soft cream, and often get told I don't look my age.
I think I take after my dad because he doesn't look like he's in his mid 60s now (altho I ditched the beard - it just wasn't me lol) altho my mother last time I saw her looked like she needed a damn good iron! "
I haven't used soap on my face since I was 15 as it just dries out my skin which is already pretty dry. I use moisturiser occasionally, when I remember! |
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By *ezebelWoman
over a year ago
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I was just think last week - I wonder how many women are still using that Boots serum that everyone went crazy about a couple of years ago? And if it worked they will all be looking like they are 21 again by now...
I dont use anti-wrinkle cream but I do use a moisturiser at lease once a day, or twice in dry or cold weather. A fairly expensive one but I like it and it lasts forever and I stock up on it when I go the the US. |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Ive never used soap on my face and i dont go in the sun. In fact im obsessive about the sun thats why i have a vitamin d deficiancy. Dont want to have leather skin"
I have such pale skin I never sit out in the sun - always in the shade. |
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"Some time ago I read Naomi Wolf's 'The Beauty Myth'. It was a real eye-opener. There was a quote from a leading scientist (cannot remember which one) who stated quite categorically that there was not a single cream at all which could prevent the development of wrinkles. Wrinkles develop deep in the dermis whereas most 'anti-wrinkle' creams only touch the surface of the skin.
Now, they may reduce the 'appearance' of wrinkles usually because they contain something like Retin-A which reacts with the skin by stripping it of the top layer. The skin, feeling that it is under attack, actually thickens in order to protect itself. This, in turn, can cause the wrinkles to deepen - and so the cycle continues. Women need to continually use these creams more and more to achieve the desired effects but are actually making the problem worse. No wonder that the facial cream industry is worth billions!
This same scientist stated his surprise at the gullibility of women for spending HUGE amounts of money on such creams - including educated and intelligent women.
I spend nothing whatsoever on such creams. As I age, I age. It has never worried me - and never will.
Let's not forget Wolf's book is a best selling feminist polemic, not a scientific review of beauty products. Whether anti ageing creams work or not, is irrelevant, her argument is why we feel the need to use them.
Some might argue that Wolf herself epitomises the very image she seeks to condemn.
Of course it's true there is no magic bullet that make wrinkles dissapear, as yet. However to completely disregard any skin care will, and does, hasten the the deterioration process.
Yes, I know what the book is. I was simply quoting one small section of it, not attempting to discuss the wider feminist ramifications of the political stance.
I also have not advocated ignoring any care of the skin, body or anything else. I am arguing that 'anti-wrinkle' creams are pointless and a waste of money."
OK..when you stated 'as I age, I age' I read that as you don't believe in using. skin improving products, which of course is your choice. |
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Live style can have a dramatic effect on the aging process, ie. Not smoking, having a balanced diet with plenty of fresh fruit and veg. Consuming alcohol in moderation and having a regular sleeping pattern. All help with the condition of your skin. Using a moistureiser certainly helps.... As for anti-aging cream.... Load of boll##ls...  |
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By *B9 Queen OP Woman
over a year ago
Over the rainbow, under the bridge |
"Some time ago I read Naomi Wolf's 'The Beauty Myth'. It was a real eye-opener. There was a quote from a leading scientist (cannot remember which one) who stated quite categorically that there was not a single cream at all which could prevent the development of wrinkles. Wrinkles develop deep in the dermis whereas most 'anti-wrinkle' creams only touch the surface of the skin.
Now, they may reduce the 'appearance' of wrinkles usually because they contain something like Retin-A which reacts with the skin by stripping it of the top layer. The skin, feeling that it is under attack, actually thickens in order to protect itself. This, in turn, can cause the wrinkles to deepen - and so the cycle continues. Women need to continually use these creams more and more to achieve the desired effects but are actually making the problem worse. No wonder that the facial cream industry is worth billions!
This same scientist stated his surprise at the gullibility of women for spending HUGE amounts of money on such creams - including educated and intelligent women.
I spend nothing whatsoever on such creams. As I age, I age. It has never worried me - and never will.
Let's not forget Wolf's book is a best selling feminist polemic, not a scientific review of beauty products. Whether anti ageing creams work or not, is irrelevant, her argument is why we feel the need to use them.
Some might argue that Wolf herself epitomises the very image she seeks to condemn.
Of course it's true there is no magic bullet that make wrinkles dissapear, as yet. However to completely disregard any skin care will, and does, hasten the the deterioration process.
Yes, I know what the book is. I was simply quoting one small section of it, not attempting to discuss the wider feminist ramifications of the political stance.
I also have not advocated ignoring any care of the skin, body or anything else. I am arguing that 'anti-wrinkle' creams are pointless and a waste of money.
OK..when you stated 'as I age, I age' I read that as you don't believe in using. skin improving products, which of course is your choice. "
I don't believe there are any skin 'improving' products. I think there are creams which protect but that is not the same as 'improving'. And the thing I feel about aging is that it happens so why worry about it? I'm not suggesting 'letting it all go'. I take exercise, drink plenty of fluids, drink very little alcohol, eat healthily, try to get a good night's sleep. But a lot is down to genetics. Nothing you can do about that.
My hubby was nearly 10 years younger than me but looked older. His mum also aged badly - whereas my mum never looked her age. Her sister is now 91 and you would not believe it from looking at her skin! |
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"Some time ago I read Naomi Wolf's 'The Beauty Myth'. It was a real eye-opener. There was a quote from a leading scientist (cannot remember which one) who stated quite categorically that there was not a single cream at all which could prevent the development of wrinkles. Wrinkles develop deep in the dermis whereas most 'anti-wrinkle' creams only touch the surface of the skin.
Now, they may reduce the 'appearance' of wrinkles usually because they contain something like Retin-A which reacts with the skin by stripping it of the top layer. The skin, feeling that it is under attack, actually thickens in order to protect itself. This, in turn, can cause the wrinkles to deepen - and so the cycle continues. Women need to continually use these creams more and more to achieve the desired effects but are actually making the problem worse. No wonder that the facial cream industry is worth billions!
This same scientist stated his surprise at the gullibility of women for spending HUGE amounts of money on such creams - including educated and intelligent women.
I spend nothing whatsoever on such creams. As I age, I age. It has never worried me - and never will."
I have only ever used Nivea, no concealers, very little make up and I am happy the way I look ...!  Aging is a precious gift many are denied. |
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Don't drink much alcohol.....don't smoke....drink at least Five glasses of water a day....don't use soap on your face or neck....and don't buy in to these wonder miracle skin creams.
Just an ordinary moisturiser like Olay. |
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