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"As a foreigner living in the UK for ten years, and a descendant of Scottish adventures who were more than welcomed in a distant land, I'm petrified of the kind of things I have read in this previous Thread. I'm now recalling the “hostile environment” in Teresa May's strategy words. But this is not something happening exclusively in the UK. It is a worldwide humanitarian crisis. It Is disgusting here as everywhere, Fare Right is improving their past bad outcomes using hate speech and pressing the right bottoms of fear and ignorance. It's sad to witness how illegal immigrants are used around the world as cheap labour making richer the richest ones. The same powerful people who in public say foreigners are ruining the country, but in fact they are making them millionaires. It's sad to realize how the middle and working class are losing their benefits little by little and the simplest explanation is immigrants took at them. It's also unfortunate the UK abandoned Europe and its commitment to helping Nations in crisis, to prevent future immigrant cruel exodus. It is sad because I love this country and its culture. " This. All of this. I wonder if they’ve overshot in the UK though, the backlash is going to be huge. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Starmer properly go after Farage and his gang, as well as Apartheid Elon, who’s been blatantly fanning the flames. | |||
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"The tories and right wing media have fuelled this and should take their share of the blame. " But they won't and they never will. | |||
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"The tories and right wing media have fuelled this and should take their share of the blame. " and then step back and say ‘how horrific 😱🙆🏾♂️’ | |||
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"Judging by the comments on a lot of youtube clips, the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. If this escalates much more, I can see the army being used to stop the riots." The illegal immigrants. Ohhhhh. That’s why they’re attacking people of colour in the streets. | |||
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"Judging by the comments on a lot of youtube clips, the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. If this escalates much more, I can see the army being used to stop the riots." Are you for real? | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants." The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. | |||
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"Judging by the comments on a lot of youtube clips, the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. If this escalates much more, I can see the army being used to stop the riots. The illegal immigrants. Ohhhhh. That’s why they’re attacking people of colour in the streets. " Agree. It's got nothing to do with illegal migrants, it is a bunch of thugs who have been easily led by the rhetoric of idiots like Tommy Robinson, Nigel Farage, Andrew Tate, Laurence Fox, Katie Hopkins, Lee Anderson... I can finally think of a beneficial use for the BB Stockholm barge, and if the rioters are put on there, dragged out to sea and choose to smash it up and set fire to them - so be it. Don't expect the RNLI to come to the rescue either as the rioters are probably the same group who felt that the RNLI should not have been rescuing people on small boats. | |||
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"The scumbags who were in the majority of the rioters had probably blown all their benefits on booze and fags and needed to go looting to replenish their stocks. They need sympathy too - it's hard to cope with only two brain cells each." Some of the interviews these people have given, you are absolutely right, they require sympathy and to be educated. It's just embarrassing!!! | |||
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"Maybe you should read the thread on this in the politics forum! I don't believe what I'm reading in this section. "the root cause is the illegal immigrants" Youd think on a "broad minded" site like this people may a little more..... broad minded? We have Gay and TV TS people on here that I'm sure many have suferred abuse at some point. I remember when the first big gay club opened in Belfast (the gay scence was very underground for a long time) well when it was chuck out time there were frequently crowds of guys waiting to beat them up BADLY why? Just because they were gay and "different" So by some of the logic here the root cause is the guy who opened the gay club as this was bound to happen????" You have read my mind. I'm shocked at the level of ignorance on here. They are thankfully out numbered. Though, because we and some others are open minded we have wrongly assumed, that everyone here is on the same page. | |||
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"Maybe you should read the thread on this in the politics forum! I don't believe what I'm reading in this section. "the root cause is the illegal immigrants" Youd think on a "broad minded" site like this people may a little more..... broad minded? We have Gay and TV TS people on here that I'm sure many have suferred abuse at some point. I remember when the first big gay club opened in Belfast (the gay scence was very underground for a long time) well when it was chuck out time there were frequently crowds of guys waiting to beat them up BADLY why? Just because they were gay and "different" So by some of the logic here the root cause is the guy who opened the gay club as this was bound to happen????"   | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame." Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. | |||
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"Maybe you should read the thread on this in the politics forum! I don't believe what I'm reading in this section. "the root cause is the illegal immigrants" Youd think on a "broad minded" site like this people may a little more..... broad minded? We have Gay and TV TS people on here that I'm sure many have suferred abuse at some point. I remember when the first big gay club opened in Belfast (the gay scence was very underground for a long time) well when it was chuck out time there were frequently crowds of guys waiting to beat them up BADLY why? Just because they were gay and "different" So by some of the logic here the root cause is the guy who opened the gay club as this was bound to happen???? You have read my mind. I'm shocked at the level of ignorance on here. They are thankfully out numbered. Though, because we and some others are open minded we have wrongly assumed, that everyone here is on the same page." ...going by some of the comments I've read on here of late, some of the contributors should be in Paris with the GB Olympic gymnastics teams - the level of contortion to justify their bigotry is Simone Biles-esque!! | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. " How many illegal immigrants are there in this country? | |||
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"Keir Starmer has labelled All hard-working people of the UK as Right-wing Thugs. If any of you actually been to a march, there are thousands of families walking in peace black and white, Yet Starmer and the media have lied and fuelled it all up and Two Tier Policing is real. This is the tip, there are millions of hard-working people in this country that feel very angry and betrayed. This Government is not doing anything to solve the problem. It's not just about the kids being killed, it's about all of it. The attacks on the police in Manchester, the stabbing of a soldier in London, the postman pushed in front of a train London. Then the killings. I'm not a thug or far- right , but ill fight to keep my family safe, wouldn't you. " I thought Starmer called the rioters far right thugs, do you have a link to the speech where he labelled all hard working people in the UK as right wing thugs? | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. How many illegal immigrants are there in this country?" Too many No one will be able to give you a figure because no one's knows ...that's the problem..they don't try to stop them coming over ...and when they do get here they are put into hotels while their are British people living rough ... children starving ...OAPs living in poverty | |||
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"Keir Starmer has labelled All hard-working people of the UK as Right-wing Thugs. If any of you actually been to a march, there are thousands of families walking in peace black and white, Yet Starmer and the media have lied and fuelled it all up and Two Tier Policing is real. This is the tip, there are millions of hard-working people in this country that feel very angry and betrayed. This Government is not doing anything to solve the problem. It's not just about the kids being killed, it's about all of it. The attacks on the police in Manchester, the stabbing of a soldier in London, the postman pushed in front of a train London. Then the killings. I'm not a thug or far- right , but ill fight to keep my family safe, wouldn't you. " Noah fence but why the fuck would I go to one of these marches? 🥴🥴🥴 | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. How many illegal immigrants are there in this country? Too many No one will be able to give you a figure because no one's knows ...that's the problem..they don't try to stop them coming over ...and when they do get here they are put into hotels while their are British people living rough ... children starving ...OAPs living in poverty " How do you know there are too many? Also, the people being put up in hotels are asylum seekers, it’s not illegal to seek asylum. As for the homeless, starving kids and OAPs, is that something that’s only happened since ‘illegal immigrants’ appeared on the scene? | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. How many illegal immigrants are there in this country? Too many No one will be able to give you a figure because no one's knows ...that's the problem..they don't try to stop them coming over ...and when they do get here they are put into hotels while their are British people living rough ... children starving ...OAPs living in poverty " Illegals immigrants are put in hotels? Say swear? 😱🙆🏾♂️ | |||
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"As a foreigner living in the UK for ten years, and a descendant of Scottish adventures who were more than welcomed in a distant land, I'm petrified of the kind of things I have read in this previous Thread. I'm now recalling the “hostile environment” in Teresa May's strategy words. But this is not something happening exclusively in the UK. It is a worldwide humanitarian crisis. It Is disgusting here as everywhere, Fare Right is improving their past bad outcomes using hate speech and pressing the right bottoms of fear and ignorance. It's sad to witness how illegal immigrants are used around the world as cheap labour making richer the richest ones. The same powerful people who in public say foreigners are ruining the country, but in fact they are making them millionaires. It's sad to realize how the middle and working class are losing their benefits little by little and the simplest explanation is immigrants took at them. It's also unfortunate the UK abandoned Europe and its commitment to helping Nations in crisis, to prevent future immigrant cruel exodus. It is sad because I love this country and its culture. " I'm also an immigrant from Italy, my parents come to England in the 60s. I love this country, but I've seen it change, especially after Brexit. Very well put Veronica. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug." Just to clarify, is that because you’ve been participating in what’s been happening? 🤔 | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Just to clarify, is that because you’ve been participating in what’s been happening? 🤔" So anyone who went on a march is a right wing thug | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Just to clarify, is that because you’ve been participating in what’s been happening? 🤔 So anyone who went on a march is a right wing thug" That’s not what I said. I asked you to clarify whether that’s why you feel that Starmer has labelled you that. 🤔 | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. How many illegal immigrants are there in this country? Too many No one will be able to give you a figure because no one's knows ...that's the problem..they don't try to stop them coming over ...and when they do get here they are put into hotels while their are British people living rough ... children starving ...OAPs living in poverty " ...you forgot war veterans sleeping rough for the Bingo win... 
...asking for a friend - the stuff you've mentioned, is all of that solely down to immigrants? Not government policies or inaction, or anything else? Just "immigrants"?? And do you really, honestly believe that all those problems would disappear if immigrants weren't here? If so, I have a really nice bridge to sell you... | |||
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"Two tier policing wasn’t an issue when it was those black bastards feeling the full force of the law "Seeing people using this weekend as evidence of two tier policing is truly mind blowing | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Just to clarify, is that because you’ve been participating in what’s been happening? 🤔 So anyone who went on a march is a right wing thug That’s not what I said. I asked you to clarify whether that’s why you feel that Starmer has labelled you that. 🤔" I think Starmer has made a huge rod for his own back. Yes I am in total support of controlled immigration and the huge security risks of letting in thousands on young men into this country. So as it turns out I am extreme right wing. Who knew. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Just to clarify, is that because you’ve been participating in what’s been happening? 🤔 So anyone who went on a march is a right wing thug That’s not what I said. I asked you to clarify whether that’s why you feel that Starmer has labelled you that. 🤔 I think Starmer has made a huge rod for his own back. Yes I am in total support of controlled immigration and the huge security risks of letting in thousands on young men into this country. So as it turns out I am extreme right wing. Who knew." Good news. Immigration numbers are directly controlled by the government. | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. How many illegal immigrants are there in this country? Too many No one will be able to give you a figure because no one's knows ...that's the problem..they don't try to stop them coming over ...and when they do get here they are put into hotels while their are British people living rough ... children starving ...OAPs living in poverty ...you forgot war veterans sleeping rough for the Bingo win...
...asking for a friend - the stuff you've mentioned, is all of that solely down to immigrants? Not government policies or inaction, or anything else? Just "immigrants"?? And do you really, honestly believe that all those problems would disappear if immigrants weren't here? If so, I have a really nice bridge to sell you..."Illegal immigrants All those 20 to 50 year old guys coming over in boats with no background checks to see who they are ..what crimes(if any) they have committed on their own country Where are all the woman and kid who are leaving war torn countries??? | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Just to clarify, is that because you’ve been participating in what’s been happening? 🤔 So anyone who went on a march is a right wing thug That’s not what I said. I asked you to clarify whether that’s why you feel that Starmer has labelled you that. 🤔 I think Starmer has made a huge rod for his own back. Yes I am in total support of controlled immigration and the huge security risks of letting in thousands on young men into this country. So as it turns out I am extreme right wing. Who knew." Just out of interest, what was your motivation for attending the rally? Whereabouts was the protest? I'm Genuinely curious. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug." Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. | |||
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"Keir Starmer has labelled All hard-working people of the UK as Right-wing Thugs. If any of you actually been to a march, there are thousands of families walking in peace black and white, Yet Starmer and the media have lied and fuelled it all up and Two Tier Policing is real. This is the tip, there are millions of hard-working people in this country that feel very angry and betrayed. This Government is not doing anything to solve the problem. It's not just about the kids being killed, it's about all of it. The attacks on the police in Manchester, the stabbing of a soldier in London, the postman pushed in front of a train London. Then the killings. I'm not a thug or far- right , but ill fight to keep my family safe, wouldn't you. " And he’s supposed to have undone allllll of the disasters of the last 14 years in one month is he? Don’t be so ridiculous. It’s not about peaceful protest. It’s about racial violence being masked by right to protest. The biggest issues of this country and nothing g to do with immigration. It’s a cop out. A racist cop out. | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. " Promised I wouldn't do this! Sorry don't know how many illegals are in the UK however as of May 2024 the UK was 5th in the ammount they take in behind Germany Spain, Italy france. (this is only EU countires Turkey actually takes in the most. Why do some cross to the UK? well a lot of them speak english and a lot have got friends and family already here Housing? Money? No they are sent to an asylum processing centre to start their case. This may have once been a hotel that wasn't making any money so loaned to the government to be an asylum processing centre. IT IS NO LONGER A HOTEL They don't get thier own room, the rooms are filled with bunk beds, they don't sit in the restuart and order from a menu they stand in line and get whats given. they don't get free bar, room service or use of the heath spa! They get £5 a day for basic essentials Yes I'm sure if they need medical treatment they get it but not sure how it works. How many woman and children, well quite a lot but if you look in the daily mail it will only show you the men. There claim is processed and if found to be a genuine case then they are granted a work visa and can apply for jobs, housing etc. If the claim is bogus then they can be deported back These are facts! feel free to check them! Youre not racist or stupid? Maybe one of them?????? | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Just to clarify, is that because you’ve been participating in what’s been happening? 🤔 So anyone who went on a march is a right wing thug That’s not what I said. I asked you to clarify whether that’s why you feel that Starmer has labelled you that. 🤔 I think Starmer has made a huge rod for his own back. Yes I am in total support of controlled immigration and the huge security risks of letting in thousands on young men into this country. So as it turns out I am extreme right wing. Who knew. Just out of interest, what was your motivation for attending the rally? Whereabouts was the protest? I'm Genuinely curious. " Where did I say I went on a march? | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. How many illegal immigrants are there in this country? Too many No one will be able to give you a figure because no one's knows ...that's the problem..they don't try to stop them coming over ...and when they do get here they are put into hotels while their are British people living rough ... children starving ...OAPs living in poverty ...you forgot war veterans sleeping rough for the Bingo win...
...asking for a friend - the stuff you've mentioned, is all of that solely down to immigrants? Not government policies or inaction, or anything else? Just "immigrants"?? And do you really, honestly believe that all those problems would disappear if immigrants weren't here? If so, I have a really nice bridge to sell you...
Illegal immigrants
All those 20 to 50 year old guys coming over in boats with no background checks to see who they are ..what crimes(if any) they have committed on their own country
Where are all the woman and kid who are leaving war torn countries???"Have you considered the Reform party? | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so." You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Just to clarify, is that because you’ve been participating in what’s been happening? 🤔 So anyone who went on a march is a right wing thug That’s not what I said. I asked you to clarify whether that’s why you feel that Starmer has labelled you that. 🤔 I think Starmer has made a huge rod for his own back. Yes I am in total support of controlled immigration and the huge security risks of letting in thousands on young men into this country. So as it turns out I am extreme right wing. Who knew. Just out of interest, what was your motivation for attending the rally? Whereabouts was the protest? I'm Genuinely curious. Where did I say I went on a march?" From what you said about anyone going on a march being a right wing thug, kind of implies that you went on one. I might have misread what you meant. Never mind. | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. How many illegal immigrants are there in this country? Too many No one will be able to give you a figure because no one's knows ...that's the problem..they don't try to stop them coming over ...and when they do get here they are put into hotels while their are British people living rough ... children starving ...OAPs living in poverty ...you forgot war veterans sleeping rough for the Bingo win...
...asking for a friend - the stuff you've mentioned, is all of that solely down to immigrants? Not government policies or inaction, or anything else? Just "immigrants"?? And do you really, honestly believe that all those problems would disappear if immigrants weren't here? If so, I have a really nice bridge to sell you...
Illegal immigrants
All those 20 to 50 year old guys coming over in boats with no background checks to see who they are ..what crimes(if any) they have committed on their own country
Where are all the woman and kid who are leaving war torn countries???
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke!" More misinformation. You're part of the problem. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays." Really? I'm calling bullshit on that. It's been used clearly and specifically for the racists who are rioting, smashing the place up and attacking non-white people. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays." Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. How many illegal immigrants are there in this country? Too many No one will be able to give you a figure because no one's knows ...that's the problem..they don't try to stop them coming over ...and when they do get here they are put into hotels while their are British people living rough ... children starving ...OAPs living in poverty ...you forgot war veterans sleeping rough for the Bingo win...
...asking for a friend - the stuff you've mentioned, is all of that solely down to immigrants? Not government policies or inaction, or anything else? Just "immigrants"?? And do you really, honestly believe that all those problems would disappear if immigrants weren't here? If so, I have a really nice bridge to sell you...
Illegal immigrants
All those 20 to 50 year old guys coming over in boats with no background checks to see who they are ..what crimes(if any) they have committed on their own country
Where are all the woman and kid who are leaving war torn countries???
Have you considered the Reform party?
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem." I think you need to change news provider. Google is your friend. He’s absolutely correct. | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem. I think you need to change news provider. Google is your friend. He’s absolutely correct." | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem. I think you need to change news provider. Google is your friend. He’s absolutely correct." Assumption is the mother of all failures. | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem." Which bit is misinformation? I'm just reading facts. | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem." You've obviously got some very right wing views, I'm curious how you justify this world view, whilst being on a swinging site? Do you not feel that they are very opposing values? It's not meant to be any sort of attack, I am just trying to understand. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays." These days you get sent to jail just for saying you’re English. These days. | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. How many illegal immigrants are there in this country? Too many No one will be able to give you a figure because no one's knows ...that's the problem..they don't try to stop them coming over ...and when they do get here they are put into hotels while their are British people living rough ... children starving ...OAPs living in poverty ...you forgot war veterans sleeping rough for the Bingo win...
...asking for a friend - the stuff you've mentioned, is all of that solely down to immigrants? Not government policies or inaction, or anything else? Just "immigrants"?? And do you really, honestly believe that all those problems would disappear if immigrants weren't here? If so, I have a really nice bridge to sell you...
Illegal immigrants
All those 20 to 50 year old guys coming over in boats with no background checks to see who they are ..what crimes(if any) they have committed on their own country
Where are all the woman and kid who are leaving war torn countries???"lol. Oh my. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. " What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. How many illegal immigrants are there in this country? Too many No one will be able to give you a figure because no one's knows ...that's the problem..they don't try to stop them coming over ...and when they do get here they are put into hotels while their are British people living rough ... children starving ...OAPs living in poverty ...you forgot war veterans sleeping rough for the Bingo win...
...asking for a friend - the stuff you've mentioned, is all of that solely down to immigrants? Not government policies or inaction, or anything else? Just "immigrants"?? And do you really, honestly believe that all those problems would disappear if immigrants weren't here? If so, I have a really nice bridge to sell you...
Illegal immigrants
All those 20 to 50 year old guys coming over in boats with no background checks to see who they are ..what crimes(if any) they have committed on their own country
Where are all the woman and kid who are leaving war torn countries???"You could try and answer my question, instead of just repeating the same old same-o...or did you not read from the playbook any further?? ...is it the fault of immigrants illegal or otherwise, that kids are starving, people can't get doctor appointments, people (including veterans) are sleeping rough, and so on? | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem. I think you need to change news provider. Google is your friend. He’s absolutely correct. Assumption is the mother of all failures. " And wilful ignorance is never a valid excuse...  | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion?" What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 | |||
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" Rather – this was a meeting to pull together our response… A response both to the immediate challenge… Which is clearly driven by far-right hatred. But also - all violent disorder that flares up. Whatever the apparent cause or motivation – we make no distinction… Crime is crime. And so - to that end… I can announce today, that following this meeting… we will establish a national capability, across police forces… To tackle violent disorder. These thugs are mobile… They move from community to community… And we must have a policing response that can do the same. " I was keen to go back and listen to check why everyone is claiming they’ve been called right wing and I’m still not understanding it (unless you were actively involved in the violence and disruption we have seen over the past few days either in person or through incitement). Can someone who feels they were classified as right wing explain why they feel they personally were the subject of what Kier said? | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem. You've obviously got some very right wing views, I'm curious how you justify this world view, whilst being on a swinging site? Do you not feel that they are very opposing values? It's not meant to be any sort of attack, I am just trying to understand." So you thing have to be left wing to be a swinger? I think the label left and right wing is far too simplistic. But as in this example. I believe and support in controlled immigration and curbing the boats travelling across from France as they are a security risk to this country. So how that makes me right wing. Yet I support the NHS which is basically left wing. I support nationalising water. Left wing. Go figure. | |||
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"“Two tier policing” because historically people of colour have had it so easy with police 🤣" Honestly 🤪😂 | |||
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"Now I'm really done with this today "Arguing with and idiot creates two idiots" Mark Twain" Something, something, pigeons and chess boards... | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾" Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem. You've obviously got some very right wing views, I'm curious how you justify this world view, whilst being on a swinging site? Do you not feel that they are very opposing values? It's not meant to be any sort of attack, I am just trying to understand. So you thing have to be left wing to be a swinger? I think the label left and right wing is far too simplistic. But as in this example. I believe and support in controlled immigration and curbing the boats travelling across from France as they are a security risk to this country. So how that makes me right wing. Yet I support the NHS which is basically left wing. I support nationalising water. Left wing. Go figure." So to be clear; this is why people have been acting violently? From Southport violence to now, illegal immigration is the reason? And illegal immigration that people don’t seem to have facts on. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest." And you’d know to be fair. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. And you’d know to be fair. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂" Yes I do know. You don't have to be black to know. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest." Wow. Just wow. Straight-up leftie attitude, that. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest." Wow. Just when I thought you are somewhat reasonable, I think you should talk to some black people about their experiences in this regard. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest." Doesn’t come much more racist than this, thanks for clarifying. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. And you’d know to be fair. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yes I do know. You don't have to be black to know." Well how else would you know it’s all in the heads of Black people? If you’re not Black? | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. Wow. Just wow. Straight-up leftie attitude, that. "Woke af | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. And you’d know to be fair. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Yes I do know. You don't have to be black to know." This is the gaslighting that people talk about by the way. Racist policing is all in your head. 🤪😂 | |||
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" So you thing have to be left wing to be a swinger? I think the label left and right wing is far too simplistic. " Well looking at some of the posts today certainly not! | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem. You've obviously got some very right wing views, I'm curious how you justify this world view, whilst being on a swinging site? Do you not feel that they are very opposing values? It's not meant to be any sort of attack, I am just trying to understand. So you thing have to be left wing to be a swinger? I think the label left and right wing is far too simplistic. But as in this example. I believe and support in controlled immigration and curbing the boats travelling across from France as they are a security risk to this country. So how that makes me right wing. Yet I support the NHS which is basically left wing. I support nationalising water. Left wing. Go figure. So to be clear; this is why people have been acting violently? From Southport violence to now, illegal immigration is the reason? And illegal immigration that people don’t seem to have facts on. " Don't forget "protect the children" - nothing says you're doing that quite like burning out a Citizens Advice Bureau or a library, torching cars and chucking rocks at fire engines... | |||
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"JFC." how he was treated by the Romans was in his head, you know. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. Wow. Just wow. Straight-up leftie attitude, that.
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"JFC." Remember the forums during BLM? We’ve gone back in time. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. Doesn’t come much more racist than this, thanks for clarifying. " When people show you who they are, believe them... | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem. You've obviously got some very right wing views, I'm curious how you justify this world view, whilst being on a swinging site? Do you not feel that they are very opposing values? It's not meant to be any sort of attack, I am just trying to understand. So you thing have to be left wing to be a swinger? I think the label left and right wing is far too simplistic. But as in this example. I believe and support in controlled immigration and curbing the boats travelling across from France as they are a security risk to this country. So how that makes me right wing. Yet I support the NHS which is basically left wing. I support nationalising water. Left wing. Go figure." What's your view on race hate enthusiasts rioting, smashing shit up and attacking non-white people? | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug." Why did so many right wing thugs vote for Starmer to give him a landslide majority ? | |||
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"JFC. how he was treated by the Romans was in his head, you know." probably deserved it, coloured rabble rouser. how very dare he disrupt the economy with his throwing of tables and talking down arr bois the Pharisees. Keep Roman provinces Roman. | |||
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"JFC. Remember the forums during BLM? We’ve gone back in time. " mmhm. I just wish that we'd apply some fucking disinfectant and put it in the politics section where it can be more easily ignored. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest." Easily in the top five most ridiculous things I've seen on the forums. Bravo. | |||
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"JFC. how he was treated by the Romans was in his head, you know." | |||
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"JFC. Remember the forums during BLM? We’ve gone back in time. mmhm. I just wish that we'd apply some fucking disinfectant and put it in the politics section where it can be more easily ignored." Inject the thread with bleach. 😉 | |||
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"JFC. Remember the forums during BLM? We’ve gone back in time. mmhm. I just wish that we'd apply some fucking disinfectant and put it in the politics section where it can be more easily ignored. Inject the thread with bleach. 😉" Then follow up with Ivermectin and storm Westminster trying to hang Angela Rayner because patriotism. | |||
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"Just going on a match doesn't make you a thug does it." Of course it doesn't but if it kicks off and there's looting, arson, attacking police etc it's not a march is it..? If you stay you're either an onlooker, a participant or what? If people take kids along and stay there when it goes nasty then that's beyond me.. | |||
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" Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest." Seriously, what is wrong with you? Do you have Trump's speeches to your headphones? Is it because you live in part of the country where it is predominantly a white homogeneous culture, with no diversity and all the benefits that arise from an inclusive society (and ultimately have led to this heterogeneous [diverse, mixed, hotch potch] of people groups that made Britain great? | |||
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"Just going on a match doesn't make you a thug does it. Of course it doesn't but if it kicks off and there's looting, arson, attacking police etc it's not a march is it..? If you stay you're either an onlooker, a participant or what? If people take kids along and stay there when it goes nasty then that's beyond me.." It's funny to me when the shoe is on the other foot. I went to protests at university, books not bombs, that sort of thing. I certainly chanted some things that would be crimes if I did them, but that's as violent as I got. No sit ins, no destruction of property, not even close to any of those people. Not even a sit in. But we were all labelled as one and the same. (And I know for a fact that I have a record with the Australian spy agency. They're not subtle. My record is probably fucking boring) Funnily enough, it's only a problem when the other side are being labelled as being part of wider disruption. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest." We had two black guys on the watch who I served with for fifteen years and eleven years in south London, one had been pulled over by police four times in his car and the other twice both on the way to the station and going home.. One was pulled on the station forecourt and the police officer asked him why he didn't stop in front of the bay doors FFS.. No one else, the other seventeen of us in that time had never been stopped once.. Maybe that was in their heads though.. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. We had two black guys on the watch who I served with for fifteen years and eleven years in south London, one had been pulled over by police four times in his car and the other twice both on the way to the station and going home.. One was pulled on the station forecourt and the police officer asked him why he didn't stop in front of the bay doors FFS.. No one else, the other seventeen of us in that time had never been stopped once.. Maybe that was in their heads though.." Dude, she doesn't care, and doesn't want to know about the "real"...  | |||
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"Just going on a match doesn't make you a thug does it. Of course it doesn't but if it kicks off and there's looting, arson, attacking police etc it's not a march is it..? If you stay you're either an onlooker, a participant or what? If people take kids along and stay there when it goes nasty then that's beyond me.. It's funny to me when the shoe is on the other foot. I went to protests at university, books not bombs, that sort of thing. I certainly chanted some things that would be crimes if I did them, but that's as violent as I got. No sit ins, no destruction of property, not even close to any of those people. Not even a sit in. But we were all labelled as one and the same. (And I know for a fact that I have a record with the Australian spy agency. They're not subtle. My record is probably fucking boring) Funnily enough, it's only a problem when the other side are being labelled as being part of wider disruption." I think some are getting confused or deliberately getting it wrong with what constitutes a peaceful protest and a full blown riot.. I mean if you on the former and it turns into the latter there's simply no reason to stay close by.. | |||
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" No one else, the other seventeen of us in that time had never been stopped once.. Maybe that was in their heads though.." Did black athletes Williams and Dos Santos who were stopped by police in Maida Vale with their baby in the back of the car also imagine it ? | |||
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"Just going on a match doesn't make you a thug does it. Of course it doesn't but if it kicks off and there's looting, arson, attacking police etc it's not a march is it..? If you stay you're either an onlooker, a participant or what? If people take kids along and stay there when it goes nasty then that's beyond me.. It's funny to me when the shoe is on the other foot. I went to protests at university, books not bombs, that sort of thing. I certainly chanted some things that would be crimes if I did them, but that's as violent as I got. No sit ins, no destruction of property, not even close to any of those people. Not even a sit in. But we were all labelled as one and the same. (And I know for a fact that I have a record with the Australian spy agency. They're not subtle. My record is probably fucking boring) Funnily enough, it's only a problem when the other side are being labelled as being part of wider disruption. I think some are getting confused or deliberately getting it wrong with what constitutes a peaceful protest and a full blown riot.. I mean if you on the former and it turns into the latter there's simply no reason to stay close by.." I don't think it's confusion. I think it's much more deliberate - my side are peaceful, their side are violent. Most people - even if I find their ideology abhorrent - protest peacefully. | |||
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"There’s a caller on LBC right now who will go viral. He drove from Harlow to Middlesbrough last to protest and erm, yeah. Just wait till you hear it 🙃" Harlow is just down the road. Lol | |||
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"There’s a caller on LBC right now who will go viral. He drove from Harlow to Middlesbrough last to protest and erm, yeah. Just wait till you hear it 🙃" Do we have to?  | |||
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"When I said once about having reservations about leaving the diversity of London, certain people made me feel like I’m crazy. lol ok. " Not crazy. This country is crazily not diverse, except for certain pockets. | |||
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"There’s a caller on LBC right now who will go viral. He drove from Harlow to Middlesbrough last to protest and erm, yeah. Just wait till you hear it 🙃 Do we have to? "Oh you’ll want to hear this | |||
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"There’s a caller on LBC right now who will go viral. He drove from Harlow to Middlesbrough last to protest and erm, yeah. Just wait till you hear it 🙃 Do we have to?
Oh you’ll want to hear this "I can't imagine being that fucking motivated. I'll march along with a group if they're nearby and I agree with them. Travelling to protest? nah. That's why I write to my MP, engage in community action, etc. Protesting isn't that effective. | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. " I agree you never see kids and women on these boats just a bunch of men who come here no papers nothing and look at how many of these men have caused issues when they get here just to mention a couple Lee rigbys attackers and that bloke who threw acidic substance over that woman and her kid and then drowned in the Thames can't remember the names for that one but they are both instances where they were immigrants how much more of our blood needs to be spilt before they stop allowing them to come over here? I think people have just had enough and they are letting out their anger and frustration I don't condon violence but sometimes it's the only way to be heard x | |||
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" No one else, the other seventeen of us in that time had never been stopped once.. Maybe that was in their heads though.. Did black athletes Williams and Dos Santos who were stopped by police in Maida Vale with their baby in the back of the car also imagine it ?" I know.. We are how long since Steven Lawrence was butchered and Met found to be institutionally racist and still there's problems with some in that force.. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. We had two black guys on the watch who I served with for fifteen years and eleven years in south London, one had been pulled over by police four times in his car and the other twice both on the way to the station and going home.. One was pulled on the station forecourt and the police officer asked him why he didn't stop in front of the bay doors FFS.. No one else, the other seventeen of us in that time had never been stopped once.. Maybe that was in their heads though.. Dude, she doesn't care, and doesn't want to know about the "real"... "I have to disagree with you here, I think she's a fairly reasonable person who lives in Norfolk, which is very much untouched relatively compared with the urban parts of the country. Her experiences of such issues will be limited to TV. The country outside the major cities is very different from south east England. When people see reality, they do change their views. | |||
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"Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!!" You do know they get benefits in all the other European countries too, don’t you? Why do you think the UK gives out more? What data do you base that on? Can I suggest that as English is so widely known, many people come here simply because they can speak some of the language. You are entitled to an opinion, but it is never better than a fact. Please share some facts to show that “they” come here because they know they get all those fantastic benefits. Gbat | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. I agree you never see kids and women on these boats just a bunch of men who come here no papers nothing and look at how many of these men have caused issues when they get here just to mention a couple Lee rigbys attackers and that bloke who threw acidic substance over that woman and her kid and then drowned in the Thames can't remember the names for that one but they are both instances where they were immigrants how much more of our blood needs to be spilt before they stop allowing them to come over here? I think people have just had enough and they are letting out their anger and frustration I don't condon violence but sometimes it's the only way to be heard x" His attackers whom in my opinion the armed response who attended should have slotted the pair of the murdering vermin were born here.. Of Nigerian parents, yes they converted to Islam but that's like saying all doctors are like Harold shipman because they're doctors.. | |||
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"OK my opinion from the other forum Have we forgotten just how this started? A 17 year old attacked a group of young girls coming out of a dance class and 3 are dead??? The guy was apprehended immediately but there are certain procedures to follow and evidence to gather before they are formally charged. We will not find out all of the information such as possible motive etc until the trail but the basic information is not released to the public for a few days as it may jeopardise the case. However that doesn't seem acceptable to the public as they want answers immediately so they turn to what's posted on social media. Farage could have came to parliament like most of the other mps to hear the details of the case so he wouldn't be able to comment to press or the good people of Clacton until it was made public. No instead he chose to make a video saying that "they" are hiding something from us and it's like "they" don't want us to know something. Well the cult of farage will put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5. Then coincidentally Russian media spreads lies that he just got off a boat and his patents were on an mi6 watch list and then the riots start. Ok we know that was false but riots continue, it's no longer about the poor girls and their families it's about illegal immigrants and has been fueled by daily tweets from tommy 2 names while he's sunning himself in Cyprus! Sorry but anyone that justifies these riots by saying if the government had controlled immigration better then these riots wouldn't happening it's a bit like a man saying to his wife I wouldn't need to knock you around so much if you just did as you were told! The rioters are pieces of shit, farage is a piece of shit, tommy whatever lemon is a piece of shit and anyone that defends the rioters is a piece of shit! Not up for debating I'm out" | |||
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"The Lee Rigby murderers were both British born They were also both raised as Christians, who then converted to islam." Feelings don't care about facts. | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. I agree you never see kids and women on these boats just a bunch of men who come here no papers nothing and look at how many of these men have caused issues when they get here just to mention a couple Lee rigbys attackers and that bloke who threw acidic substance over that woman and her kid and then drowned in the Thames can't remember the names for that one but they are both instances where they were immigrants how much more of our blood needs to be spilt before they stop allowing them to come over here? I think people have just had enough and they are letting out their anger and frustration I don't condon violence but sometimes it's the only way to be heard x His attackers whom in my opinion the armed response who attended should have slotted the pair of the murdering vermin were born here.. Of Nigerian parents, yes they converted to Islam but that's like saying all doctors are like Harold shipman because they're doctors.. " They’re giving Shipman a 22% pay rise, where’s the money coming from, that’s what I want to know? | |||
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"…the rioting is not the problem, it is the illegal immigrants. The far right always have a hate target… the actual number of illegal immigrants is not sufficient to cause a crisis. The tories fucked this country over for the previous 14 years, but that’s okay, because we have a minority group to blame. Do you realise how many illegal immigrants are currently in this country ?? Obviously they are a problem ..why would they pass through all the other countries to get to Britain?? Because they know they get housing / money / health care etc at the British tax payers expense when we can't even get a new house or a doctor appointment!!! And no I'm not racist I'm just not stupid either How many woman and children do you see on these boats coming over?...it's all guys between 20 to 50 year old Who don't have any identification so therefore you can't check them for crimes committed in their own country. I agree you never see kids and women on these boats just a bunch of men who come here no papers nothing and look at how many of these men have caused issues when they get here just to mention a couple Lee rigbys attackers and that bloke who threw acidic substance over that woman and her kid and then drowned in the Thames can't remember the names for that one but they are both instances where they were immigrants how much more of our blood needs to be spilt before they stop allowing them to come over here? I think people have just had enough and they are letting out their anger and frustration I don't condon violence but sometimes it's the only way to be heard x" More bullshit. I could cry! In May, a dad buried his 7-year-old daughter who was crushed trying to cross the channel. Last November, a pregnant woman and three kids were among the those who drowned when a boat sank. How heartless are you to totally discount the suffering that people are trying to escape by risking everything - literally everything to get here?? Fucks sake. The UK has ploughed in and totally destroyed societies in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. We owe refugees and asylum seekers some compassion. | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. " Did you miss the article about the kids drowning then? Convenient. | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. " Update from GBnews. | |||
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"The Lee Rigby murderers were both British born " Are you suggesting that the rioting racists, are in fact, not armed with acute analytical minds? | |||
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" They’re giving Shipman a 22% pay rise, where’s the money coming from, that’s what I want to know? He killed himself in 2004" And they are still giving his a rise... fucking BBC | |||
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" They’re giving Shipman a 22% pay rise, where’s the money coming from, that’s what I want to know? He killed himself in 2004 And they are still giving his a rise... fucking BBC" Never heard of a post humous raise before fk me we will soon be blaming video games for this bull shit well why not we are dragging the dead Into it | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. We had two black guys on the watch who I served with for fifteen years and eleven years in south London, one had been pulled over by police four times in his car and the other twice both on the way to the station and going home.. One was pulled on the station forecourt and the police officer asked him why he didn't stop in front of the bay doors FFS.. No one else, the other seventeen of us in that time had never been stopped once.. Maybe that was in their heads though.. Dude, she doesn't care, and doesn't want to know about the "real"...
I have to disagree with you here, I think she's a fairly reasonable person who lives in Norfolk, which is very much untouched relatively compared with the urban parts of the country. Her experiences of such issues will be limited to TV. The country outside the major cities is very different from south east England. When people see reality, they do change their views."Sorry, but I have friends who live in Norfolk, and with respect, this is 2024, and she's in Norwich - hardly a cultural backwater, given they have a university, etc. Do you think "Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest" is the comment of someone who doesn't really know? She seemed more than comfortable putting that piece of nonsense out there - and the fact that she hasn't returned to respond or qualify her comments speaks volumes, imho...in fact, didn't she double down ("Yes I do know. You don't have to be black to know")?? | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. Did you miss the article about the kids drowning then? Convenient. " So they are drowning in a war zone. As that’s what I asked about did you not read what I said correctly | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. Did you miss the article about the kids drowning then? Convenient. So they are drowning in a war zone. As that’s what I asked about did you not read what I said correctly " The kids that were in the boat sweetheart. You know with all those men.. there were pictures of deceased children from overloaded boats. There’s plenty of evidence if you choose to see it. | |||
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"Keir Starmer has labelled All hard-working people of the UK as Right-wing Thugs. If any of you actually been to a march, there are thousands of families walking in peace black and white, Yet Starmer and the media have lied and fuelled it all up and Two Tier Policing is real. This is the tip, there are millions of hard-working people in this country that feel very angry and betrayed. This Government is not doing anything to solve the problem. It's not just about the kids being killed, it's about all of it. The attacks on the police in Manchester, the stabbing of a soldier in London, the postman pushed in front of a train London. Then the killings. I'm not a thug or far- right , but ill fight to keep my family safe, wouldn't you. I thought Starmer called the rioters far right thugs, do you have a link to the speech where he labelled all hard working people in the UK as right wing thugs?" they don't because it doesn't exist. | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries " What kind of link, like family ties? Why is that important? " that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. " They are. " Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. " This is inaccurate. Lots of men from Ukraine have come here. | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. Did you miss the article about the kids drowning then? Convenient. So they are drowning in a war zone. As that’s what I asked about did you not read what I said correctly The kids that were in the boat sweetheart. You know with all those men.. there were pictures of deceased children from overloaded boats. There’s plenty of evidence if you choose to see it." None so blind... | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. " Just one story of how a family was torn apart first by war and then by political indifference. https://news.sky.com/story/dads-grief-as-he-buries-daughter-7-crushed-to-death-on-cross-channel-migrant-boat-13130791 | |||
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" They’re giving Shipman a 22% pay rise, where’s the money coming from, that’s what I want to know? He killed himself in 2004" Then it’s even more ridiculous he’s getting a pay rise! | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. Did you miss the article about the kids drowning then? Convenient. So they are drowning in a war zone. As that’s what I asked about did you not read what I said correctly The kids that were in the boat sweetheart. You know with all those men.. there were pictures of deceased children from overloaded boats. There’s plenty of evidence if you choose to see it." I am not asking about boats. You need to read and be accurate with your replies. Where are these war zones the men are running away from. | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. Did you miss the article about the kids drowning then? Convenient. So they are drowning in a war zone. As that’s what I asked about did you not read what I said correctly The kids that were in the boat sweetheart. You know with all those men.. there were pictures of deceased children from overloaded boats. There’s plenty of evidence if you choose to see it. I am not asking about boats. You need to read and be accurate with your replies. Where are these war zones the men are running away from. " Did you miss the war in Afghanistan? 😳 | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. Did you miss the article about the kids drowning then? Convenient. So they are drowning in a war zone. As that’s what I asked about did you not read what I said correctly The kids that were in the boat sweetheart. You know with all those men.. there were pictures of deceased children from overloaded boats. There’s plenty of evidence if you choose to see it. I am not asking about boats. You need to read and be accurate with your replies. Where are these war zones the men are running away from. " People flee lots of different countries for lots of different VALID reasons. YOU 🫵🏾 don’t get to decide whether they’re safe or not where they’re from. | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. Did you miss the article about the kids drowning then? Convenient. So they are drowning in a war zone. As that’s what I asked about did you not read what I said correctly The kids that were in the boat sweetheart. You know with all those men.. there were pictures of deceased children from overloaded boats. There’s plenty of evidence if you choose to see it. I am not asking about boats. You need to read and be accurate with your replies. Where are these war zones the men are running away from. " In 2023, the top five most common countries of nationality of people who applied for asylum from within the UK were Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh Ever heard of google or are you just lazy? | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem." seriously I think the problem with this country are wastes of dna like you. Stop stealing all my oxygen you mouth breather.oohhh I'm going to start posting on social media mouth breathers steal more oxygen then nose breathing good people | |||
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"Just going on a match doesn't make you a thug does it." gawd dammit she's like a broken record. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest." Sounds like victim blaming. You seem to want to repeatedly deflect here. It's widely accepted that ethnic minorities have faced racist ill-treatment from authorities including the police. Thankfully, the Black Lives Matter topic worked wonders, to highlight the racists amongst us and what was so appalling, the endemic atrocities meted out, via the prejudiced against others. | |||
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"There’s a caller on LBC right now who will go viral. He drove from Harlow to Middlesbrough last to protest and erm, yeah. Just wait till you hear it 🙃 Do we have to?
Oh you’ll want to hear this "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q_2VNTUjbk Here it is. Stay in school, kids. | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem. I think you need to change news provider. Google is your friend. He’s absolutely correct. Assumption is the mother of all failures. And wilful ignorance is never a valid excuse... "So what excuse do you have? | |||
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"Does anyone have a link to these war torn countries that they are meant to be coming from and why the women and children not coming. Unlike Ukraine where we have only taken women and children and happily taken them and the Men have been made to stay and help fight. " how about the Serbia/ Croatia civil war that was started by two rival football firms? | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. Sounds like victim blaming. You seem to want to repeatedly deflect here. It's widely accepted that ethnic minorities have faced racist ill-treatment from authorities including the police. Thankfully, the Black Lives Matter topic worked wonders, to highlight the racists amongst us and what was so appalling, the endemic atrocities meted out, via the prejudiced against others." Sounds like an excuse. You know when someone doesn't really know what to write as they tend to write the word "deflect". Deflect what exactly. What am I deflecting. Hate to tell you this but black people can be just as racist as white people. | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem. I think you need to change news provider. Google is your friend. He’s absolutely correct. Assumption is the mother of all failures. And wilful ignorance is never a valid excuse...
So what excuse do you have?"I'm pretty sure I'm not the one exhibiting wilful ignorance here...but do crack on with your enlightening and well thought out contributions. | |||
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"There’s a caller on LBC right now who will go viral. He drove from Harlow to Middlesbrough last to protest and erm, yeah. Just wait till you hear it 🙃 Do we have to?
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. We had two black guys on the watch who I served with for fifteen years and eleven years in south London, one had been pulled over by police four times in his car and the other twice both on the way to the station and going home.. One was pulled on the station forecourt and the police officer asked him why he didn't stop in front of the bay doors FFS.. No one else, the other seventeen of us in that time had never been stopped once.. Maybe that was in their heads though.. Dude, she doesn't care, and doesn't want to know about the "real"...
I have to disagree with you here, I think she's a fairly reasonable person who lives in Norfolk, which is very much untouched relatively compared with the urban parts of the country. Her experiences of such issues will be limited to TV. The country outside the major cities is very different from south east England. When people see reality, they do change their views.
Sorry, but I have friends who live in Norfolk, and with respect, this is 2024, and she's in Norwich - hardly a cultural backwater, given they have a university, etc. Do you think "Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest" is the comment of someone who doesn't really know? She seemed more than comfortable putting that piece of nonsense out there - and the fact that she hasn't returned to respond or qualify her comments speaks volumes, imho...in fact, didn't she double down ("Yes I do know. You don't have to be black to know")??""She" lives in Norwich now, She hasn't always lived in Norwich. She lived in London. At this point can I say I have black friends then? When I was in London I worked in the legal profession. I did represent police officers accused of all sorts of nonsense by black people. Very rarely was there any truth to it. All recorded on video. Sadly people when arrested make up all sorts of lies to get out of the situation they are in. I have even had black police officers accused of racism. By another black male! Who started the whole incident of by calling the black police officer a coconut. Racism is everywhere. Black and white get convicted of it everyday. In my experience those that accuse the police of racism are mostly trying it on. I know that. I have seen it. I did warn assumption is the mother of all failures. I will remind you, I am not here to answer your replies as and when you want. I will reply to you when I am ready and not busy doing other things. | |||
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"I am so fucking angry about the bullshit being spouted by the apologists for these far-right thugs. Its pure propaganda. The asylum seekers are not "put up in hotels." Do you think they're lying on beds that have just been made by housekeeping and emptying out the mini bar while calling room service for some nachos? The hotels are no longer hotels - they are now buildings that house people who have fled war or natural disasters or whatever while their claim is checked. The girls were viciously murdered by a kid who was born and raised in the UK - he is a product of our society. He is not Muslim FFS!! The people coming over on boats are such a small number compared to the numbers of legal, working immigrants. They are not putting disproportionate pressure on the NHS or housing or any service. The issues are caused by years of Tory underinvestment. Lizz Truss wiped 30 billion from the economy overnight! Who had to pay for her screw up? The working people with mortgages etc. Were there any protests about her?? Farage and his friends have exploited the fears and ignorance of many people. His Brexit just about broke Britain, and now he's back shafting the country again with his divisive rhetoric. Tommy Robinson is fucking scum - he's calling out Muslim paedophile gangs but keeping quiet about the multiple convicted nonces among his circle of friends. I can't stand much more of this shit any longer. I'm this close to going out and burning down my local conservative club! - joke! More misinformation. You're part of the problem. I think you need to change news provider. Google is your friend. He’s absolutely correct. Assumption is the mother of all failures. And wilful ignorance is never a valid excuse...
So what excuse do you have?
I'm pretty sure I'm not the one exhibiting wilful ignorance here...but do crack on with your enlightening and well thought out contributions."Well looks like you are wrong then doesn't it. | |||
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"Can I point out there was trouble makers on the other side...so root them out as well Good people on both sides? " Very fine people, beautiful people, righteous looters who should be brought to the table. Stand by. | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. Sounds like victim blaming. You seem to want to repeatedly deflect here. It's widely accepted that ethnic minorities have faced racist ill-treatment from authorities including the police. Thankfully, the Black Lives Matter topic worked wonders, to highlight the racists amongst us and what was so appalling, the endemic atrocities meted out, via the prejudiced against others. Sounds like an excuse. You know when someone doesn't really know what to write as they tend to write the word "deflect". Deflect what exactly. What am I deflecting. Hate to tell you this but black people can be just as racist as white people." Hate to tell you this but that’s all in your head x | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. Sounds like victim blaming. You seem to want to repeatedly deflect here. It's widely accepted that ethnic minorities have faced racist ill-treatment from authorities including the police. Thankfully, the Black Lives Matter topic worked wonders, to highlight the racists amongst us and what was so appalling, the endemic atrocities meted out, via the prejudiced against others. Sounds like an excuse. You know when someone doesn't really know what to write as they tend to write the word "deflect". Deflect what exactly. What am I deflecting. Hate to tell you this but black people can be just as racist as white people. Hate to tell you this but that’s all in your head x" Shhh. Only black people can have psychosomatic shizzle  | |||
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"Can I point out there was trouble makers on the other side...so root them out as well Good people on both sides? " No,bad people on both sides | |||
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"There’s a caller on LBC right now who will go viral. He drove from Harlow to Middlesbrough last to protest and erm, yeah. Just wait till you hear it 🙃 Do we have to?
Oh you’ll want to hear this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q_2VNTUjbk
Here it is.
Stay in school, kids."Poor, poor Gary - the one day he needed that brain cell, and somebody's borrowed it... | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. We had two black guys on the watch who I served with for fifteen years and eleven years in south London, one had been pulled over by police four times in his car and the other twice both on the way to the station and going home.. One was pulled on the station forecourt and the police officer asked him why he didn't stop in front of the bay doors FFS.. No one else, the other seventeen of us in that time had never been stopped once.. Maybe that was in their heads though.. Dude, she doesn't care, and doesn't want to know about the "real"...
I have to disagree with you here, I think she's a fairly reasonable person who lives in Norfolk, which is very much untouched relatively compared with the urban parts of the country. Her experiences of such issues will be limited to TV. The country outside the major cities is very different from south east England. When people see reality, they do change their views.
Sorry, but I have friends who live in Norfolk, and with respect, this is 2024, and she's in Norwich - hardly a cultural backwater, given they have a university, etc. Do you think "Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest" is the comment of someone who doesn't really know? She seemed more than comfortable putting that piece of nonsense out there - and the fact that she hasn't returned to respond or qualify her comments speaks volumes, imho...in fact, didn't she double down ("Yes I do know. You don't have to be black to know")??
"She" lives in Norwich now, She hasn't always lived in Norwich. She lived in London. At this point can I say I have black friends then?
When I was in London I worked in the legal profession. I did represent police officers accused of all sorts of nonsense by black people. Very rarely was there any truth to it. All recorded on video. Sadly people when arrested make up all sorts of lies to get out of the situation they are in. I have even had black police officers accused of racism. By another black male! Who started the whole incident of by calling the black police officer a coconut.
Racism is everywhere. Black and white get convicted of it everyday.
In my experience those that accuse the police of racism are mostly trying it on. I know that. I have seen it. I did warn assumption is the mother of all failures.
I will remind you, I am not here to answer your replies as and when you want. I will reply to you when I am ready and not busy doing other things."Your experience has made me realise. All the evidence of decades of racist policing are all in my head. It’s just people trying it on mostly. | |||
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"There’s a caller on LBC right now who will go viral. He drove from Harlow to Middlesbrough last to protest and erm, yeah. Just wait till you hear it 🙃 Do we have to?
Oh you’ll want to hear this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q_2VNTUjbk
Here it is.
Stay in school, kids.
Poor, poor Gary - the one day he needed that brain cell, and somebody's borrowed it... "My neighbours probably heard my cry of protest when he said he's not racist | |||
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"Apparently, according to Starmer, I am a right wing thug. Have you been participating in race hate riots, attacking people who aren't white? Poor form if so. You just have to be against illegal immigration to be labelled a far right thugs nowadays. Completely made up. You have to be a right wing thug to get that label. Like the people rioting and attacking people for their race and/ or (assumed) faith that were labelled that. What were the BLMs protesters who attacked the police. What sort of thugs were they in your opinion? What were they labelled as? In 2011, what were people labelled as? Always have been labelled as thugs, criminals etc. How have BLM protestors been treated by the police? What about in 2011 that sparked the violence originally in Tottenham? There’s no double standard here. And especially not in comparison to how Black people are treated by the police. 👍🏾 Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest. We had two black guys on the watch who I served with for fifteen years and eleven years in south London, one had been pulled over by police four times in his car and the other twice both on the way to the station and going home.. One was pulled on the station forecourt and the police officer asked him why he didn't stop in front of the bay doors FFS.. No one else, the other seventeen of us in that time had never been stopped once.. Maybe that was in their heads though.. Dude, she doesn't care, and doesn't want to know about the "real"...
I have to disagree with you here, I think she's a fairly reasonable person who lives in Norfolk, which is very much untouched relatively compared with the urban parts of the country. Her experiences of such issues will be limited to TV. The country outside the major cities is very different from south east England. When people see reality, they do change their views.
Sorry, but I have friends who live in Norfolk, and with respect, this is 2024, and she's in Norwich - hardly a cultural backwater, given they have a university, etc. Do you think "Much of how black people think they are treated by the police in is their own head to be honest" is the comment of someone who doesn't really know? She seemed more than comfortable putting that piece of nonsense out there - and the fact that she hasn't returned to respond or qualify her comments speaks volumes, imho...in fact, didn't she double down ("Yes I do know. You don't have to be black to know")??
"She" lives in Norwich now, She hasn't always lived in Norwich. She lived in London. At this point can I say I have black friends then?
When I was in London I worked in the legal profession. I did represent police officers accused of all sorts of nonsense by black people. Very rarely was there any truth to it. All recorded on video. Sadly people when arrested make up all sorts of lies to get out of the situation they are in. I have even had black police officers accused of racism. By another black male! Who started the whole incident of by calling the black police officer a coconut.
Racism is everywhere. Black and white get convicted of it everyday.
In my experience those that accuse the police of racism are mostly trying it on. I know that. I have seen it. I did warn assumption is the mother of all failures.
I will remind you, I am not here to answer your replies as and when you want. I will reply to you when I am ready and not busy doing other things."You will remind me? I have no idea what you're talking about - pretty sure I don't work for you, and you're definitely not my parent...??
As for the rest of your contribution, it told me everything I need to know...just FYI, black people aren't the only people that lie, try to get out of of less than comfy situations, or exhibit any of what you described - they're HUMAN, universal traits. And that's kind of the point, isn't it? But you just don't get it.
Save your "black friends" card for someone who cares - your comments here speak volumes about you.
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