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Are we watching a civil unrest emerge in this country?

By *ikki.newcastle OP TV/TS 23 weeks ago

NORTH EAST

It feels like we’re living through a Black Mirror series, the scenes we are witnessing. What’s your views on the whole situation? Im interested in all aspects of this from a sociological perspective

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"It feels like we’re living through a Black Mirror series, the scenes we are witnessing. What’s your views on the whole situation? Im interested in all aspects of this from a sociological perspective "

Reaping the effects of decades of anti-immigrant & anti-muslim rhetoric from element of the media, from the previous government, from the Reform party, from professional trolls like Farage, Lawrence Fox, Tommy Robinson etc.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman 23 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

It's pathetic, just an excuse to incite hate and violence under the guise of protest. It's not a protest, it's hate crime and acts of terrorism.

Makes me laugh all these right wing EDL and Reform supporters spouting on about keeping Britain British and 'English through and through' their Anglo Saxon origins has long been diluted by bloodlines mixed from all race and cultures.

And if that's the case they should be the first ones to fuck off out of England...

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

It's pathetic, just an excuse to incite hate and violence under the guise of protest. It's not a protest, it's hate crime and acts of terrorism.

And if that's the case they should be the first ones to fuck off out of England...

Plus the Angles and the Saxons came from Northern German.

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By *issmorganWoman 23 weeks ago

Calderdale innit

Some people are using a tragedy as an excuse to spread hate and set buildings on fire, attack police and others etc.

I understand people may have their concerns, but this is not the way to voice them if so.

Looting shops has nothing to do with anything that's gone on either and those they're attacking have nothing to do with decent events in Southport.

I think many who have actively encouraged this or taken part are going to be shocked when the police turn up for them.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

Watching with disbelief especially the children also participating

I'm sure in the 80s/90s they used to use water cannons to disperse rioters ...

I'm a massive supporter of the right to protest, but this is just thuggery based on the colour of someone's skin... Utter racist rhetoric perpetrated by the likes of Farage etc. He should be arrested on the grounds of inciting rioting etc

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By *m3232Man 23 weeks ago

maidenhead

The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

They come here because they hope to get everything for free. We need to stop it and have a holding pattern until we sort it out. That won’t happen sadly as all but one political party don’t have the balls to stand up and stop everything.

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By *inger_SnapWoman 23 weeks ago

Hampshire/Dorset

No, they'll get bored after a week.

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By *d mirerMan 23 weeks ago

lost

"Watching with disbelief especially the children also participating

I'm sure in the 80s/90s they used to use water cannons to disperse rioters ...

I absolutely agree , it’s appalling .

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

The root cause is people believing some of that shite.

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By *d mirerMan 23 weeks ago

lost

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

It isn’t the root cause , the root cause is inherent racism and incitement to riot by people who will use any thinly veiled reason to hate .

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By *ools and the brainCouple 23 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

And what's going to happen to them??

Prison's are full, they can't suddenly find enough room to lock them up, unless......

Bibby Stockholm is available isn't it? :-

Send in the army.

And as I said on another thread

Get the water cannons in and baton rounds.

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By *andynecklaceWoman 23 weeks ago

Someplace

Just an excuse to be violent. None of this is for the 3 girls they claim to care about. It's scary how violent they are

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"And what's going to happen to them??

Prison's are full, they can't suddenly find enough room to lock them up, unless......

Bibby Stockholm is available isn't it? :-

Send in the army.

And as I said on another thread

Get the water cannons in and baton rounds.

"
farage agrees....

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By *m3232Man 23 weeks ago

maidenhead

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

It isn’t the root cause , the root cause is inherent racism and incitement to riot by people who will use any thinly veiled reason to hate . "

IMO it’s not a racism problem but more of a religious problem with what that brings. Years have gone by with the many problems it brings and also some of the countries have brought it along with the wars and what that does to their mentality with people they know being killed.

The problem with never go away.

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By *heHookyMonsterMan 23 weeks ago

Liverpool

Agreed - also not listening to ordinary everyday people who are none of the above. Branding every act of terror as 'mental illness' very quickly and playing down certain elements completely has many decent people up in arms. Behaving violently isn't the solution though and I have no time for it. Not sure how the government will take notice by any other means mind you. Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though.

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By *m3232Man 23 weeks ago

maidenhead

"Just an excuse to be violent. None of this is for the 3 girls they claim to care about. It's scary how violent they are "

It’s called mob mentality when a few start doing something wrong and the others stupidly follow.

All riots should be stopped by bringing in the army and water cannons to both sides of the problem.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

" Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though."

Word for word what Farage said

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By *nebworthMan 23 weeks ago

Knebworth

"And what's going to happen to them??

Prison's are full, they can't suddenly find enough room to lock them up, unless......

Bibby Stockholm is available isn't it? :-

Send in the army.

And as I said on another thread

Get the water cannons in and baton rounds.

Difficult to deploy water cannons in England Scotland and Wales as they do not have statuary approval and the only ones the UK have are in Northern Ireland.

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By *otsossieMan 23 weeks ago

Chesterfield

Send them to Rwanda and charge the ringleaders with domestic terrorism.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

" Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though.

Word for word what Farage said "
one, is there anything to update?

Two, want to keep this front and centre of the news, don't create more news.

Three, do you think all parts of the media wouldn't report on any updates?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

The root cause is people believing some of that shite."

It's been pumped out to them for decades.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

Have you considered the Reform party? Probably a good fit.

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By *jay1975Man 23 weeks ago

London / Barcelona

It feels like a concerted effort to destabilise, there's considerable effort and resources being used to amplify these hateful messages and actions, and to fund these organisations whose typical membership couldn't tell their arse from their elbows.

Absolutely segments of the media have laid the groundwork.

Black mirror times, they are indeed!

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By *heGateKeeperMan 23 weeks ago

Stratford

Something that should have united the country has divided it more than most of us can remember in our lifetimes.

I wish those who wanted to take back their country would stop covering their faces so we knew who we were giving it back to (and the law could do its bit).

The videos from Friday and Saturday were horrific to see and we are living in sad time times atm. The (dis)information era is in full effect and thankfully it’s showing idiots up to be just what they are.

The sense of community and anti protesters are restoring the faith in society though.

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By *ou only live onceMan 23 weeks ago

London

You think the people rioting represent "decent people"? The vast majority of decent people are appalled by their racially-motivated violence and want nothing to do with it.

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By *affron40Woman 23 weeks ago

manchester

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

It’s very clear you have absolutely no idea what people with no rights to reside get!! But this is a huge part of the problem. People with a sense of entitlement that believe poor buggers from other countries fleeing war and persecution are getting what’s ‘theirs’

It’s out and out racism badly disguised as right to protest. An excuse for Tommy Robinson thugs to break things and attack police. It’s shameful.

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By *ife NinjaMan 23 weeks ago

Dunfermline

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

It’s out and out racism badly disguised as right to protest. An excuse for Tommy Robinson thugs to break things and attack police. It’s shameful."

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By *abtastic Mr FoxMan 23 weeks ago

A den in the Glen

"Something that should have united the country has divided it more than most of us can remember in our lifetimes.

I wish those who wanted to take back their country would stop covering their faces so we knew who we were giving it back to (and the law could do its bit).

The sense of community and anti protesters are restoring the faith in society though."

Couldn't agree more with him ^

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

I personally don't especially want the government to take notice of the concerns that the rioting race hate enthusiasts have.

What developments have we had on the case of the army officer that was stabbed?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"Something that should have united the country has divided it more than most of us can remember in our lifetimes.

I wish those who wanted to take back their country would stop covering their faces so we knew who we were giving it back to (and the law could do its bit).

The sense of community and anti protesters are restoring the faith in society though.

Couldn't agree more with him ^"

Thirded

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

I don't watch the news. The whole world could get hit by a comet and I wouldn't know. (Or care).

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By *cotsguyyMan 23 weeks ago

Belfast and Fife

" Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though."

All depends what media you follow.

I heard a guy phone into a radio talk show to make the same complaint. Media wasn't covering thing fairly or responsibly and when questioned what news radio or TV shows did he watch his answer was none. When asked where he was following the news he said the paper

"So, what papers? Which ones are you reading?"

"None, I just look at the headlines."

Hahahaha, people want spoon fed their news and politics. They don't want to go and look for it or do any actual research.

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By *bi HaiveMan 23 weeks ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

It’s out and out racism badly disguised as right to protest. An excuse for Tommy Robinson thugs to break things and attack police. It’s shameful."

100%

Is the party the previous comment mentioned the Torys? Because they had 14 years to sort something out and all they came up with was a farcical, costly and unworkable plan to ship one or two people to Rwanda.

That and a 'holding pattern' that revolved around companies owned by Tory donors making millions from asylum assessments taking forever. Where do people think all the money involved ends up? Because it doesn't end up in the pockets of asylum seekers. The longer they take to be assessed the more profitable it is for those with contracts to accommodate and feed them. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

Firstly I'm a non religious person. Born and bred in the UK and I got my love for this country. It's only treated me with love and I treat it back with love and that's god's honest truth. I completely understand there is an illegal immigration issue. But attacking the police is just barbaric. If protestors want to make a difference then go to Houses of Parliament and raise your voice. Looting and rioting isn't the answer.

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By *heGateKeeperMan 23 weeks ago

Stratford

" Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though.

All depends what media you follow.

"So, what papers? Which ones are you reading?"

"None, I just look at the headlines."

Hahahaha, people want spoon fed their news and politics. They don't want to go and look for it or do any actual research. "

I think I heard the same conversation if it’s Tom

Swarbrick on LBC you’re referring to and it was mind blowing.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"And what's going to happen to them??

Prison's are full, they can't suddenly find enough room to lock them up, unless......

Bibby Stockholm is available isn't it? :-

Send in the army.

And as I said on another thread

Get the water cannons in and baton rounds.

Difficult to deploy water cannons in England Scotland and Wales as they do not have statuary approval and the only ones the UK have are in Northern Ireland."

Plus there would be a hosepipe ban within seconds

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By *heHookyMonsterMan 23 weeks ago

Liverpool

"Firstly I'm a non religious person. Born and bred in the UK and I got my love for this country. It's only treated me with love and I treat it back with love and that's god's honest truth. I completely understand there is an illegal immigration issue. But attacking the police is just barbaric. If protestors want to make a difference then go to Houses of Parliament and raise your voice. Looting and rioting isn't the answer. "

Wish there was a clapping hands emoji on here - I'd be putting loads under your comment!

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

I remember a thread posted by a Muslim on this site wishing happy Ramadam.

He got nothing but respect from posters on here wishing him to have a happy one and not one insult about his religion.

If there was the mods would of rightly removed those insults.

Then we had a happy easter thread that was full of insults about sky Gods and how Mary should of swallowed.

Those two threads told me a lot about some of the users on this site who are selective with their insults.

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By *exxyyDy11Man 23 weeks ago

Darwen

The amount of misinformation on social media is shocking and most of the users spreading it aren't even from the UK.

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By *heHookyMonsterMan 23 weeks ago

Liverpool

" Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though.

All depends what media you follow.

Television news predominantly - the big ones. BBC, Sky etc - barely a mention. Sure something that big should be covered more? Lots of big stories since - especially Southport - but I've not seen a single mention of it since the first day. I'd concede that extremely dramatic events have overtaken to a large degree.

"So, what papers? Which ones are you reading?"

"None, I just look at the headlines."

Hahahaha, people want spoon fed their news and politics. They don't want to go and look for it or do any actual research. "

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By *heHookyMonsterMan 23 weeks ago

Liverpool

" Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though.

All depends what media you follow.

"So, what papers? Which ones are you reading?"

"None, I just look at the headlines."

Hahahaha, people want spoon fed their news and politics. They don't want to go and look for it or do any actual research.

I think I heard the same conversation if it’s Tom

Swarbrick on LBC you’re referring to and it was mind blowing."

If the guy complaining on radio answered 'none' then that's ridiculous! Can't complain if you can't be arsed!

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By *he KakapoMan 23 weeks ago

A nice rock

There are alot of very complex very difficult issues in society at the moment.

They are very hard and put if most of our hands to solve.

Even identifying the people at fault can be difficult.

Its much much easier to blame some brown people 🤷‍♂️

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By *ffervescentMan 23 weeks ago

winfrith

yes,just avoid it like the plague

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By *allerthanaverage79Man 23 weeks ago

Ayrshire

No shit Sherlock!

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By *heHookyMonsterMan 23 weeks ago

Liverpool

You think the people rioting represent "decent people"? The vast majority of decent people are appalled by their racially-motivated violence and want nothing to do with it."

I'd agree they don't 'represent' decent people, so don't put words in my mouth - I've already said I disagree with that approach. It's scummy to say the least. On the other hand, having been in Liverpool most of last week I also know there appear to be a lot of people concerned that the government are completely ignoring their concerns. While I've zero respect for the far right it's a nice easy cop out by Starmer and his cronies to dismiss concerns as purely 'far right' out of hand. Only listening to people is going to isolate the far right out of this, otherwise they'll continue to agitate.....and they must be isolated, not given fuel. Extremist acts will continue as long as there's a fire to Stoke.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"The amount of misinformation on social media is shocking and most of the users spreading it aren't even from the UK."

Yes, this was my experience when I was on there.

Quite a lot of american people would spread stuff about "stories" going on here. I'd get into discussions pointing out the story was fake, but many don't want to hear. I guess that's understandable as you've basically pointed out that they're an idiot- In a polite way.

One guy when I even showed him where the fake source was coming from, replied ' it doesn't matter that the story was fake."

They come on there to find solidarity in the belief they already hold.

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By *hekaiserMan 23 weeks ago

Glasgow

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

Root cause is the knee jerk reaction of retarded folk who believe the above noted bile....

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

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By *altandPepper24Couple 23 weeks ago

Liverpool

A Britain with no bbc is a Britain I refuse to live in 😂

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By *ou only live onceMan 23 weeks ago

London

You think the people rioting represent "decent people"? The vast majority of decent people are appalled by their racially-motivated violence and want nothing to do with it.

Sorry, didn't mean to put words in your mouth - I misunderstood "has many decent people up in arms" to mean those people up in arms were decent. My mistake. But I still don't think the rioters in any way have the support of most "decent people".

I'm also not sure that people are not being listened to. What concerns are the mobs conveying on behalf of others? What does the government need to do? Genuine questions.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

I want ASS!

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I want BUM!

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By *heHookyMonsterMan 23 weeks ago

Liverpool

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

It’s out and out racism badly disguised as right to protest. An excuse for Tommy Robinson thugs to break things and attack police. It’s shameful."

Also true.

I had several good friends working down at Dover when the Navy were supporting Border Force. They confirmed that news cameras from certain stations filmed almost 24/7, but only ever used the footage when those arriving here were purely males of 'fighting age'. They also confirmed many to be whole families, including children. One of the guys who told me this was a card-carrying member of the Conservative Party. Definitely a mix of genuine people fleeing violence and those who just fancied a better life.

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By *heHookyMonsterMan 23 weeks ago

Liverpool

You think the people rioting represent "decent people"? The vast majority of decent people are appalled by their racially-motivated violence and want nothing to do with it.

I'm also not sure that people are not being listened to. What concerns are the mobs conveying on behalf of others? What does the government need to do? Genuine questions."

Totally with you - all good!

I doubt any decent folk are onside with violence, certainly not anyone who's aware that several Police Ofgicers ended up with broken bones the other night. Several dogs were also injured. One Police Officer was knocked cold. Disgusting!

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"Im here for ASS, not political stuff. Who wants ASS? ASS bebe ASS!

Maybe you'd have better luck with a more relevant discussion..."

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By *m3232Man 23 weeks ago

maidenhead

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

Root cause is the knee jerk reaction of retarded folk who believe the above noted bile...."

That’s because you don’t understand and that’s the problem.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman 23 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

You think the people rioting represent "decent people"? The vast majority of decent people are appalled by their racially-motivated violence and want nothing to do with it.

Starmer has been in power for a few weeks now, Conservatives for 14 years! Wtf is he expected to do that the Tories didn't??

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By *ynamicnatureMan 23 weeks ago

Doncaster

I had to close my venue today, because of the uneducated sheeple in Sheffield.

What a bunch of c....!

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

Root cause is the knee jerk reaction of retarded folk who believe the above noted bile....

That’s because you don’t understand and that’s the problem. "

Don't understand what?

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By *affron40Woman 23 weeks ago

manchester

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

Root cause is the knee jerk reaction of retarded folk who believe the above noted bile....

That’s because you don’t understand and that’s the problem. "

Tommy? 🙄 you’re missing some key facts

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

To answer the OP directly I don't understand any of it. I don't know anything about the bastard who murdered the children and I don't understand how that despicable act excuses or justifies a load of overweight blokes wearing t-shirts too small for them to do what they're currently doing under the guise of protests.

I hope they're all dealt with.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

What ever your opinions, if your reaction is to label anyone who does not agree with you either stupid, racist, far right (which has been used so much at this point it has lost all meaning), or indeed far left, then you are a big part of the problem.

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By *iberius61Man 23 weeks ago

Pontefract

"No, they'll get bored after a week."

Usually it's as soon as it rains

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By *hekaiserMan 23 weeks ago

Glasgow

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

Root cause is the knee jerk reaction of retarded folk who believe the above noted bile....

That’s because you don’t understand and that’s the problem. "

Islam has fcuk all to do with the a ove shit

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By *exxyyDy11Man 23 weeks ago

Darwen

"A Britain with no bbc is a Britain I refuse to live in 😂"

You'll still have ITV or Channel 4

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By *ulie.your. bottom. slutTV/TS 23 weeks ago

Glasgow

Everyone's insurance will be going up up because of these mindless c*nts. Concern for the working man my ass.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"What ever your opinions, if your reaction is to label anyone who does not agree with you either stupid, racist, far right (which has been used so much at this point it has lost all meaning), or indeed far left, then you are a big part of the problem. "
at what point can you call someone stupid, facist or far right?

For me smashing up your own town is stupid. Attacking place of worship is moving towards racist (I know Islam isn't a race). The politics forum will argue what is or isn't far fight. Just dont mention national socialism.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

True.

Though it seems reasonable to label stupid far right racists as stupid far right racists.

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By *otwife Snowy and MeCouple 23 weeks ago

Carshalton

Cycle of inciting riots is a method of control for this country... Feel bad for the EDL sheep... So dumb and easily led to violence. Who puts a tattoo with England then has the GB flag with on side of head. They were all pissed up hooligans. Easier to organise than the last riots because the algorithm has connected all the dickhead moronic citizens into one simple cabal

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By *allerthanaverage79Man 23 weeks ago

Ayrshire

"The problem boils down to ASS.

We neeeeeeeeed ASS."

Also glue and quality narcotics according to this comment!

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By *heHookyMonsterMan 23 weeks ago

Liverpool

True.

Though it seems reasonable to label stupid far right racists as stupid far right racists."

Definitely - extreme types on the left or right are of the same ilk. Tiny minorities in effect, but sadly cause far too many issues. Irony is they give the government a cop-out rather than forcing them to actually act, with the real issues becoming easier to ignore.

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By *cottish guy 555Man 23 weeks ago

London

Vlad must be laughing his arse off. How easy to destabilise a country using social media feeds.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

True.

Though it seems reasonable to label stupid far right racists as stupid far right racists.

Not exactly the same. People peacefully protesting for the government to take action on climate change were labelled "far left". Hardly a direct comparison to a bunch of racist knuckleheads attacking mosques, police, and anyone not white.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 23 weeks ago

Central

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

No, it's populist chancers who have whipped up disorder, based on hatred and many people who are readily eager to comply, even whilst much of the propaganda is lies.

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By *hirley147TV/TS 23 weeks ago

Blackpool

How many murders have the so called far right committed in this country? How many murders have islamist fanatics committed? Yet stalin starmer, prostrate himself to the alien cultures and condemns ordinary concerned people as far right. The elite have ignored ordinary people for to long. Blair mandelson brown allowed to many immigrants in. The country is losing it's identity as the indigenous population are disapated,. Enoch Powell warned of this catastrophe, they should never have been allowed in. Rivers of blood, murder, r*** on industrial scale multiculturalism as failed. Cultures are different, and Islam is alien to English values. English people have been silenced vy the leftist elite, we want our country back.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"How many murders have the so called far right committed in this country? How many murders have islamist fanatics committed? Yet stalin starmer, prostrate himself to the alien cultures and condemns ordinary concerned people as far right. The elite have ignored ordinary people for to long. Blair mandelson brown allowed to many immigrants in. The country is losing it's identity as the indigenous population are disapated,. Enoch Powell warned of this catastrophe, they should never have been allowed in. Rivers of blood, murder, r*** on industrial scale multiculturalism as failed. Cultures are different, and Islam is alien to English values. English people have been silenced vy the leftist elite, we want our country back. "
I need a view on what terms I'm allowed to say here.

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By *affron40Woman 23 weeks ago

manchester

What are you on about? Leftist elite? Tories have just left power after 14 years. I don’t think you know your left from your right. It’s nonsense.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

Is straight up race hate allowed on the forums?

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By *ealMissShadyWoman 23 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

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By *heGateKeeperMan 23 weeks ago

Stratford

Are the leftist elite not English people?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

Side note, multiculturalism works for everyone except racists. The rest of us get on just fine.

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By *ed VoluptaWoman 23 weeks ago

Wirral.

I hope to god this is trolling, and not you're actual belief

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By *ou only live onceMan 23 weeks ago

London

Is straight up race hate allowed on the forums?"

This is almost word for word the same as his post yesterday, so I think the answer is yes.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

Second side note. The "indigenous population", you mean the pre-celtic population. How many people are directly descended from those people?

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS 23 weeks ago

peterborough

" Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though.

Word for word what Farage said "

Maybe buts so true

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By *ife NinjaMan 23 weeks ago

Dunfermline

I hope to god this is trolling, and not you're actual belief

On past comments, I believe it's their belief. Christ knows how they get through a normal day

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 23 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Is straight up race hate allowed on the forums?

This is almost word for word the same as his post yesterday, so I think the answer is yes."

It so is..

As equally a crock of fascist hate bile as it was then..

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By *ed VoluptaWoman 23 weeks ago

Wirral.

I hope to god this is trolling, and not you're actual belief

On past comments, I believe it's their belief. Christ knows how they get through a normal day

Ah, ok. This is a very unsettling thought.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 23 weeks ago

in Lancashire

" Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though.

Word for word what Farage said

Maybe buts so true"

It was all over the media, print, telly and online..

It's a complete falsehood to say otherwise..

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By *S chanel demarTV/TS 23 weeks ago

peterborough

"The problem boils down to ASS.

We neeeeeeeeed ASS."

I concur

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

I hope to god this is trolling, and not you're actual belief

On past comments, I believe it's their belief. Christ knows how they get through a normal day

But it is a good insight to the minds of people who get so sucked into the anti-immigrant, anti-muslim rhetoric that the lose all reason, post utter bollocks like this on a swingers site. Presumably the knuckle dragging race hate enthusiasts who have been rioting, have similarly confused fucked up views.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

Imagine seeing ur next door neighbour or there kids on the tv how can they look you in the eye next day or the workman turns up to do work for you and you tell him to fuk off !!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

" Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though.

Word for word what Farage said

Maybe buts so true"

What developments in that story have happened that need reporting on?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 23 weeks ago

North West

Are the leftist elite not English people?

Presumably not in Wales, Scotland, NI, no!

Fuck me, what a load of racist old cobblers above

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

Its coming home mentally In England

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

What makes it 'your country'?

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By *cflirtyMan 23 weeks ago

Hampshire

If this continues like this then something will emerge.... more crap!

It's the little innocent ones that have been lost here.. the idiots who think they have a reason to riot should be ignored! Don't just add fuel to the fire

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By *rontier PsychiatristMan 23 weeks ago

Coventry

I think there's a lot of organised mischief going on at the moment in Britain and across Europe. Coming from all angles and aimed primarily at sowing division in society. From indigenous political groups to foreign State actors. And sometimes indigenous groups with the aid of backing of foreign State actors. I think it's proving challenging to most European democracies at the moment, especially when there is a soft underbelly of societal problems/tensions to be exploited and exacerbated by mischief makers. Such stunts are cheap to pull off but cause disproportionate amounts of harm to society and the tax payer. So it really is a challenging problem.

I don't know what the answer is short of waving a magic Wand and making all the challenges society is facing go away. All we can really do is give the relevant resources to our security forces to impead the threat. Reach out and provide a more balanced narrative. Try not to give these actions and events the attention their perpetrators aim for. Most of all for decent balanced people to continue and not let this mischief divide and affect our daily life.

It terms of where the hand of Foreign State actors are involved we really need to stand up and be more assertive with our messaging and actions on the global stage. Be clear that we regard hybrid warfare as warfare and comes with consciences. Be that publicly, subtlety or through back channels. Because if the decade is anything to go by weak messaging, not standing by red lines and say more what actions we won't do rather what we can do only emboldens our adversaries.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone.

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By *ou only live onceMan 23 weeks ago

London

"More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone. "

What is the non-white population of Guernsey?

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By *hekaiserMan 23 weeks ago

Glasgow

You DO realise Powell was instrumental in getting folks over from the West Indies to the UK to work in the NHS....

Islam is not alien,it's the interpretation of it that folks take out of context

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone. "

Are you taking the piss out of the kind of bollocks the racist rioters believe. Or do you believe in this shite?

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone.

What is the non-white population of Guernsey?"

Idk, I'm visiting.

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By *he KakapoMan 23 weeks ago

A nice rock

"More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone. "

But honestly tho when people spout this sort of nonsense I think .. a great replacement might not be the worst idea

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone.

What is the non-white population of Guernsey?

Idk, I'm visiting. "

How many pre-celtic "natives" are being pushed out by immigrants in 2024?

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By *ou only live onceMan 23 weeks ago

London

"More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone.

What is the non-white population of Guernsey?

Idk, I'm visiting. "

Ok. What's the non-white population of the UK?

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"Are you taking the piss out of the kind of bollocks the racist rioters believe. Or do you believe in this shite?"

Neither or both. Upto you bub.

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By *he KakapoMan 23 weeks ago

A nice rock

"More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone.

What is the non-white population of Guernsey?

Idk, I'm visiting.

Ok. What's the non-white population of the UK?"

Oh oh I know this one... the answer is unwelcome right?

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By *ou only live onceMan 23 weeks ago

London

"More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone.

What is the non-white population of Guernsey?

Idk, I'm visiting.

Ok. What's the non-white population of the UK?

Oh oh I know this one... the answer is unwelcome right?"

I'm afraid the answer on my card says "dunno, but it's too many"...

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"Are you taking the piss out of the kind of bollocks the racist rioters believe. Or do you believe in this shite?

Neither or both. Upto you bub. "

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not someone who thinks that kind of bollocks.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

Utter balls! The problem is something completely different but the rhetoric we’re getting fed is that a relatively small amount of people coming here “illegally” are the root cause of all of our problems. If somehow they magicked ( those that are wrong labelled) “ illegals” away they’d have to start picking on someone else. Single parents with young children might be a safe bet.

It’s an horrendous state of affairs. Brexit resolved nothing. Surprise surprise. There’s nothing wrong with wanting border control, that doesn’t make people racist but have some processes in place to give people a fighting chance. Process applications quicker and let people work. I work in healthcare and more than half of our workforce is sponsored. Have an application centre in Calais and allow people to apply online. Boats are not a first choice! And let’s face it breaking into the homes and businesses of 3rd or 4th generation Pakistani families has fuck all to do with illegal immigration.

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By *he KakapoMan 23 weeks ago

A nice rock

Reading threads like this fills me with terror that people still quote shite like rivers of blood but also some little comfort that 90% of people see it as the utter tripe it is.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

Every aspect of the country isn't deteriorating. Society isn't deteriorating. None of it has to do with the immense influx of immigrants over the last 20+years. No nothing at all.

It's all, um, insert inane redundant reasons here.

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By *hekaiserMan 23 weeks ago

Glasgow

"Reading threads like this fills me with terror that people still quote shite like rivers of blood but also some little comfort that 90% of people see it as the utter tripe it is.

I'm with you on this one...

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone.

What is the non-white population of Guernsey?

Idk, I'm visiting.

Ok. What's the non-white population of the UK?

Oh oh I know this one... the answer is unwelcome right?

I'm afraid the answer on my card says "dunno, but it's too many"..."

If they're here illegally, and offer nothing, then yeh every one of those are one too many.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"Are you taking the piss out of the kind of bollocks the racist rioters believe. Or do you believe in this shite?

Neither or both. Upto you bub.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not someone who thinks that kind of bollocks."

Couldn't care less what a troll thinks of me.

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By *ou only live onceMan 23 weeks ago

London

"More immigrants will help the situation. More tax payers money spent on housing them will fix it.

Anyone that is against it is far right. Anyone that thinks it won't be fixed by more immigrants is racist.

Just ignore what the immigration is doing to our country, they are better than us. All us white/natives people should let them have whatever they want from us regardless of what it is.

The great replacement of the West is the best thing to happen for everyone.

What is the non-white population of Guernsey?

Idk, I'm visiting.

Ok. What's the non-white population of the UK?

Oh oh I know this one... the answer is unwelcome right?

I'm afraid the answer on my card says "dunno, but it's too many"...

If they're here illegally, and offer nothing, then yeh every one of those are one too many. "

You still haven't answered the earlier question...what proportion of the UK population is non-white?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"Every aspect of the country isn't deteriorating. Society isn't deteriorating. None of it has to do with the immense influx of immigrants over the last 20+years. No nothing at all.

It's all, um, insert inane redundant reasons here."

Ah I was wrong for giving you the benefit of the doubt.

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"Are you taking the piss out of the kind of bollocks the racist rioters believe. Or do you believe in this shite?

Neither or both. Upto you bub.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not someone who thinks that kind of bollocks.

Couldn't care less what a troll thinks of me. "

Are all non-racists "trolls"?

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"Reading threads like this fills me with terror that people still quote shite like rivers of blood but also some little comfort that 90% of people see it as the utter tripe it is.

It's the same as out on the streets. The race hate enthusiasts have been heavily outnumbered by normal people.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 23 weeks ago

North West

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

Teenage parents used to get it in the neck a lot. I felt it more than most because at peak hysteria, I was a teenage parent.

Fear not, reader. I did not claim benefits or get a council house or remain unemployed.

Every generation has some strawman to burn.

Unfortunately, people who are not defined as "white British" have been those strawmen for a very long time

Look at the 1919 race riots and see that anti immigrant racism isn't a new thing, sadly.

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By *he KakapoMan 23 weeks ago

A nice rock

"Every aspect of the country isn't deteriorating. Society isn't deteriorating. None of it has to do with the immense influx of immigrants over the last 20+years. No nothing at all.

It's all, um, insert inane redundant reasons here."

They are an easy target to blame. The certainly aren't the reason.

They aren't the reason the gap between the 1% and the poorest in society is growing,and they aren't the reason people on even a decent wage can hardly buy or rent accommodation. If you think they are you need to do alot more in depth and varied research

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By *lay 4 uMan 23 weeks ago

bolton

Blair started this problem for a few extra votes and thus how we ended up here along with successive governments not listening to what people are saying . I know for a fact that the 5000 afghans they brought in are being housed in refurbished accommodation all new fully fitted out while we have people on the streets. Wherever they go turns into a crime ridden slum and it's all very nice if you don't get them dumped on your door step but try living in the areas and see how long your tolerance last. But I'm certainly not advocating rioting and looting totally against it but can see why it's happening people are sick of being treated as second class citizens in there own country. It's OK for starmer to keep saying far right but let's remember it's the political parties who are responsible for this by doing nothing.

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By *heHookyMonsterMan 23 weeks ago

Liverpool

" Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though.

Word for word what Farage said "

I've no time for Farage. Are you comparing me to him??? If he did say that he's not wrong - although I'd rarely agree with anything that comes out of his smug mouth.

Is it OK that one of the people who gives as much - if not more - than almost any in this country is deemed so worthless that he's not worth more than a brief mention.....and that being disgusted by that apathy in the media coverage makes someone a supporter of Farage, or any kind of right wing types??

Please tell me I've misread your comment?

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By *arkSovereignMan 23 weeks ago

Lancashire

What I don’t understand is this whole “making Britain British” again BS and “taking back our country.” I was born in this country to parents who were raised in this country. I work, I pay taxes and abide by the laws of this country. But I’m not white. I have brown coloured skin and apparently thats enough for people to deny that i’m British. People need to understand that the nature behind these “protests” and riots is purely racist even if you try to hide that fact by saying “we want to stop the illegal immigrants coming here.” In reality, if it was up to the EDL and the far right idiots, they would remove every coloured person from the country. That’s what it seems like to me anyway.

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"Blair started this problem for a few extra votes and thus how we ended up here along with successive governments not listening to what people are saying . I know for a fact that the 5000 afghans they brought in are being housed in refurbished accommodation all new fully fitted out while we have people on the streets. Wherever they go turns into a crime ridden slum and it's all very nice if you don't get them dumped on your door step but try living in the areas and see how long your tolerance last. But I'm certainly not advocating rioting and looting totally against it but can see why it's happening people are sick of being treated as second class citizens in there own country. It's OK for starmer to keep saying far right but let's remember it's the political parties who are responsible for this by doing nothing. "

Education is the key.

This is a good example. If people learn in schools how to analyse information they consume, they will be able to spot when a billionaire tells poor people to blame other poor people for all their problems. Then there will be less of the above kind of utter bollocks.

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By *lay 4 uMan 23 weeks ago

bolton

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By *irmHandedMan 23 weeks ago

Lincoln

So.. reality check from someone who has worked in commercial analysis and used to be dorm prefect for a lot of people who decide our fate...

1) Our economy is ****ed post Brexit - we need immigrants more than ever. Immigrants make more money. Even if they are vaguely useless, we didn't pay to get them to age 18 at school.

2) Our country didn't just change. There are people who need unrest to happen who are quite wealthy and have transnational reach. Some of these are Russian. Some of these are just wealthy natives with a large tax burden.

3) The primary reason for Brexit was tax avoidance due to EU rules. It is VITAL for those people it becomes impossible for the new government to not impact that. Trouble can be bought. This is bought trouble. The social media storm that kicked this off was designed to make fat necked English racists kick off to distract Britain. This is information warfare a toddler could see past but eh.

But let's yell about a Syrian we are bombing. Seems legit.

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By *ou only live onceMan 23 weeks ago

London

What the 5000 Afghans who had helped UK forces in some way? Disgraceful that they're being welcomed here. Disgraceful.

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By *eekendsCouple 23 weeks ago

Darlington

People who riot and cause damage to people and property, will be crying very soon about the punishments that are coming their way, the technology they are using to organise these riots will be used against them, they will be caught and are even more stupid if they think they will get away with these crimes, how many employers will not want anything to do with workers with these crimes on there records

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By *ost SockMan 23 weeks ago

West Wales and Cardiff

Where can you take this “indigenous” stuff though?

I’m Welsh. We’ve been on these islands longer than you bloomin Anglo Saxon types with your Germanic tendencies.

I go to parts of Wales these days and barely hear a Welsh accent or encounter a Welsh person. The increased immigration of homeworking Anglo-Saxon hordes has drastically changed our land and it’s “losing it’s identity”. Our culture is being diluted. Our language is disappearing in villages dominated by homes no-one lives in most of the year.

I hope people realise I’m kinda playing devils advocate and my tongue is somewhat in my cheek here. There’s some elements of truth in there though.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 23 weeks ago

North West

"What I don’t understand is this whole “making Britain British” again BS and “taking back our country.” I was born in this country to parents who were raised in this country. I work, I pay taxes and abide by the laws of this country. But I’m not white. I have brown coloured skin and apparently thats enough for people to deny that i’m British. People need to understand that the nature behind these “protests” and riots is purely racist even if you try to hide that fact by saying “we want to stop the illegal immigrants coming here.” In reality, if it was up to the EDL and the far right idiots, they would remove every coloured person from the country. That’s what it seems like to me anyway.

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in! "

While people like me fly under the "immigrant" radar because I DO have white skin. But I have recently immigration in my family background too. And seeing pro Nazi behaviour openly in the streets of this country makes my blood run cold. The Nazis tried very hard to expunge my family entirely.

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

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By *irmHandedMan 23 weeks ago

Lincoln

Farage gave a speech at my school when I was a kid. He was an awful piece of work in 1991. Full of nonsense and hate even then. He was considered a joke.

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By *eekendsCouple 23 weeks ago

Darlington

So absolutely true, the idiots don't know why they are being used again

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 23 weeks ago

North West

How do you "know for a fact"? Are you actually Boris Johnson in disguise?

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By *irmHandedMan 23 weeks ago

Lincoln

On the bright side, this does seem like the kind of thread where I might find people who want degrading mouth use.

Always look on the bright side of life.

"We're being oppressed!"

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

The only people responsible for rioting and looting are the people rioting and looting.

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By *arkSovereignMan 23 weeks ago

Lancashire

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

Its seems like we can never just learn from that past and live in harmony. There are always some that ruin it for others and create problems for the sake of creating problems. Quite frankly, some of the people that have been posting on this thread are really starting to piss me off with their rubbish agendas. They need to take a look at their heritage and realise that at one point, their ancestors were also migrants that came to this land. Some of the replies I have seen on here make me sick.

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By *irmHandedMan 23 weeks ago

Lincoln

Well those 5000 Afghans fought for Britain, showed they cared for their country and risked all. Whilst we bombed it and promised we'd help. A country that did not in fact either harbour Bin Laden or contain anyone who committed the attacks.

Feeling strong "flag outside the house, consume all the tax benefits of my existence through playful hi-jinx in my teens because of A&E and police time energy".

Rest of us pay.

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By *urve_your_enthusiasmWoman 23 weeks ago

Manchester

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

You should be checking your facts instead of believing racist propaganda.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 23 weeks ago

North West

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

I'm keen for the anti-immigrant (aka racist) rioters to trace their ancestry. I want to see how many have a totally unbroken line without any extra-UK/GB immigration. Any post-1922 immigration from ROI counts as immigration for the purposes of this exercise. The judge's decision is final.

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By *he KakapoMan 23 weeks ago

A nice rock

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

If you find any please keep them.. their your problem now

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By *ickleTheWonderSchlongMan 23 weeks ago

Ends

I cannot believe what I read on here some days. Really scary hours. I hate it.

I can’t say anything else because there is literally no point.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 23 weeks ago

North West

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

If you find any please keep them.. their your problem now"

I don't bloody well want them

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By *arkSovereignMan 23 weeks ago

Lancashire

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

Considering the royal family of this country have Germanic roots, I don’t think these racist rioters would get very far before they realise their great grandma was actually from another country 😂

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

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there are people who arrive and stay legally. Normally visas. Those who arrive illegally but get given permission to stay legally. Refugees. And those who are living illegally.

This living illegally have no recourse to anything. As they bey are here illegally.

Reform seem to get angry at one and two. But are less vocal about the true illegal residents. Labour were gonna go after the obvious places (nail shops, car washes etc). Although that needs the police who are otherwise distracted. Probably by a group who have a large number living here for free.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 23 weeks ago

North West

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

Ummmmmm. Queen Vic and Prince Albert were first cousins so that cancels it out. Or something. It's like when you have a common denominator in fractions. I think. Maybe

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By *avinaTVTV/TS 23 weeks ago

Transsexual Transylvania

Ich bin ein ausländer!

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By *arkSovereignMan 23 weeks ago

Lancashire

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

Ummmmmm. Queen Vic and Prince Albert were first cousins so that cancels it out. Or something. It's like when you have a common denominator in fractions. I think. Maybe

Would love to see the look on people’s faces when they realise this. Unless they already know it and choose to ignore it? Seems hypocritical given the current climate of events don’t you think?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 23 weeks ago

North West

"Ich bin ein ausländer!

😱

^^^ShockedFace

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By *younaughty2Man 23 weeks ago

preston

Arrest them then get them on a jobsite carrying bricks and mortar or filling potholes, am sure am not the only one who cringes and sees pound signs when I hit one of them. My dad and my uncle had me doing all this during summer holidays not out causing trouble. On another note, mental health needs a serious helping hand, to many need help they are not receiving

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By *mf123Man 23 weeks ago

with one foot out the door

No idea i dont watch news or social media iv no idea whats going on

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 23 weeks ago

North West

"Arrest them then get them on a jobsite carrying bricks and mortar or filling potholes, am sure am not the only one who cringes and sees pound signs when I hit one of them. My dad and my uncle had me doing all this during summer holidays not out causing trouble. On another note, mental health needs a serious helping hand, to many need help they are not receiving "

Many of the people out "protesting" (rioting) have had a tough paper round, if this is "just" summer holiday related disorder. Plenty old enough to have done many shifts on building sites or whatever.

The people driving this are fully fledged adults with an agenda.

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By *AJMLKTV/TS 23 weeks ago

Burley

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

I think your understanding of UK history is a little skewed. Migration to the UK didn't really start in any significant numbers until the 17th century. Before that, Britain was invaded by the Romans, the Norse, the Normans, the Angles, the Saxons plus a few others. These were not really benevolent migrants who "came to this land", but rather brutal invaders. Anyone in the UK with any of this kind of ancestry can hardly be "blamed" for not being of British ancestry if their ancestors were brutally r4ped, can they?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple 23 weeks ago

North West

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

The racists seem okay with the Angles and Saxons because they often refer to being Anglo Saxon (but then get a bit confused by invoking the Celts at other times). They seem to imply that anything other than Anglo Saxon and/or Celtic ancestry means you are not a proper Brit and are therefore fair game. Indeed, I believe the BNP used to use "indigenous Caucasian" as its membership criteria, which they usually qualified as Anglo Saxon or Celtic. Next to zero British people have totally unbroken Anglo Saxon/Celtic ancestry. Some right wingers say they draw a line at 1066 (when the England was last invaded) and say you must have unbroken ancestry from then on without immigration. Again, next to no-one from the UK can prove that or point to that and it only applies to England anyway because in 1066, Scotland, Ireland and Wales were entirely separately governed. This further confuses the definitions of what British even means or what the racists can use to define "indigenous Caucasian".

All I know is I am not 100% "indigenous Caucasian" despite being the whitest of white skinned people.

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By *ou only live onceMan 23 weeks ago

London

A Britain where i’m told to stay inside my house so that I don’t get attacked, is not a Britain that I would want to live in!

It disgusts me that this is happening and making people fearful for their safety and causing such damage to the businesses and homes of so many people

Yeah, I don't disagree. Arguments about the Normans are pointless. In much the same way most 20th century immigration to the UK was related to Empire. Can hardly blame those Brits for coming to the Mother Country, and invited to do so, especially after so many of their descendants would have suffered at the hands of the British when invading their countries.

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By *r OreoMan 23 weeks ago

Croydon

What's been surprising is that so far all the riots have been in the north, I don't think there has been anything down south.

I wonder if there really is a strong north south divide when it comes to racism - no point dressing this up, that's all it really is about isn't it.

Three little girls died, but these idiots want to stop the boats. Pretty sure the family didn't come over by boat from Rwanda, and fairly sure they are Muslim either.

Not that facts will have any bearing given the perceived intelligence of those protestors.

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By *hrill CollinsMan 23 weeks ago

The Outer Rim

"What's been surprising is that so far all the riots have been in the north, I don't think there has been anything down south.

I wonder if there really is a strong north south divide when it comes to racism - no point dressing this up, that's all it really is about isn't it.

Three little girls died, but these idiots want to stop the boats. Pretty sure the family didn't come over by boat from Rwanda, and fairly sure they are Muslim either.

Not that facts will have any bearing given the perceived intelligence of those protestors."

erm ... as of 13 hours ago you've ignored bristol(14 arrests), aldershot(2 arrests), london(100 arrests) ...

it appears mot much happening in wales or scotland so far ... so following your implied logic, perhaps there is a cultural problem with the english having a predisposition of being racist, which i doubt

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By *r OreoMan 23 weeks ago

Croydon

Honestly not see any riots taking place in London or being mentioned?

Might well have missed it to be fair - but thought if cars were being set on fire etc in London it would be on the news.

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By *hawn ScottMan 23 weeks ago

london Brixton

The guy that shot Jo Cox

The guy that ran over an Imran comming out of a mosque

There is a documentry somewhere on Chanel 4 about murders commited by the national front.

The Stephen Lawence murder??? maybe not far right but he was murdered simply for being black

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By *hawn ScottMan 23 weeks ago

london Brixton

"Honestly not see any riots taking place in London or being mentioned?

Might well have missed it to be fair - but thought if cars were being set on fire etc in London it would be on the news."

I was living in Clapham Juntion the night of the London riots. Myself and my housmates watched the whole thing from our living room window. They looted a DJ shop and loaded it into a ford Ka that was parked in a cul de sac. took him about 40 manervers to turn the car around, not exaclty a fast getaway. Walked don the next morning and the only shop that wasn't looted was the chrstian book shop!

Boris turned up and shoveled up one load of rumble for the camera then made a few comments and left.

Felt sorry for the fancy dress shop as he got burnt out. However debanums gave him a part of the store for free until he got it rebuilt

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By *otoBlue69Man 23 weeks ago

Stockport

I can claim to be English having a family tree that goes back to the mid 16th century. Sadly there has been no foreign input to this tree other than a 1910 Polish lodger. It is noticeable from photographs that the first roman nose was his. The family now has resplendent beaks.

We have appeared in history twice. The first time when an antecedent was preaching in towns and villages in front of the descending army of Bonny Prince Charlie. If he had picked up more support the battle of Culloden may have gone another way and we would have all been catholic.

In 1810 the family firm received a massive order for Yorkshire worsted cloth from France. Parliament decreed that warm clothing was a munition and Napoleons army lost three quarters of its cotton clad soldiers from the cold in its retreat from Moscow. 1815 and Waterloo could have been different if he had had an extra 40,000 troops. Maybe we could have all been eating croussant for breakfast and our industrial revolution never happened.

We change things little by little. By smiling and saying good morning we show that everyone is cared for, no one is alone, everyone is important. A stranger is a friend you have not met yet.

The tragedy in modern life is that there is not a role for everyone that gives them respect and self confidence. There was a time when the not so bright individual could have a rewarding life in industry. Now if you do not look like a glamour model, welcome to the dole queue. It is easy to direct the disaffected. Tell them who is to blame. It is all down to foreigners. It has been the same throughout history. We burnt witches to get their property. We burnt jews to get their property. We hated the french because they took our property around Calais. Today we make French visitors travelling by train pass though Waterloo station.

We created the biggest empire the world has seen. How did we do it? By distributing blankets from cholera hospitals and mopping up whoever survived. We distributed sla**ry around the world. We invented the concentration camp. We created the biggest famine that India has ever endured by Churchill's decision to strip all foodstuffs from India for the war effort. We tried to addict China's population with opium to increase trade.

What are we proud of? The industrial revolution centered in the U.K. The canals, the railways, advances in steel production. We were the wonder of the world. It was all financed by compensation to sla*e owners. Sla*es weren't compensated but their owners were. The money came from taxation of the poor. There was no income tax just taxes on food and goods.

History is written by the winners and in some far corner of the world people think that good old blighty is a loving caring nation.

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By *aykhanMan 23 weeks ago

sheffield

Well said

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By *hawn ScottMan 23 weeks ago

london Brixton

"I can claim to be English having a family tree that goes back to the mid 16th century. Sadly there has been no foreign input to this tree other than a 1910 Polish lodger. It is noticeable from photographs that the first roman nose was his. The family now has resplendent beaks.

We change things little by little. By smiling and saying good morning we show that everyone is cared for, no one is alone, everyone is important. A stranger is a friend you have not met yet.

History is written by the winners and in some far corner of the world people think that good old blighty is a loving caring nation."

Well that was certainly a history lesson but if you go back even further to the reign of Edward 1st that clamped down on money forgery and skimmimg which meant he was getting less taxes and trading became harder and he felt "laughed at" so banned the jews from money lending and then if anyone was suspected of forgery they were killed along with 10 jews as an example. then all jews were driven out of england for nearly 500 years.

Got so paranoid he built one of the extra walls around the tower of London were he resided

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By *aptain Caveman41Man 23 weeks ago

Home

All you have to do with these rioters is go into the middle of them and shout I've a job for everyone and they will disperse in an instant. If work was their shadow they would live in the dark.

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By *hawn ScottMan 23 weeks ago

london Brixton

Rioters in middelesbrough have created a checkpoint and only letting though people that are white and english.

Anyone that isn't seems to have their car set on fire.

Mr robinson has been making videos on twiter all week inciting violence but is now fuming as the press have reported that he has is on holiday in cyprus.

Stir the pot but make sure your not in the Kitchen when it boils over.

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By *osey WalesMan 23 weeks ago

La La Land

This whole thread acts as a wonderful filter.

Never blocked ao many people at one time before !

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By *batMan 23 weeks ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

You’ve been had.

People in boats crossing the channel are not your enemy. But your real enemy has done a good job of painting them as the baddies.

Blaming a certain religion is also an age old favourite of racists and extremists and has been a significant factor in genocide in your lifetime and before.

Your use of massively sweeping generalisations with no basis in facts is a major cause of societal problems. THAT is a major part of the problem.

Gbat

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By *batMan 23 weeks ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

"Funny that the stabbing of the Army Officer the other week isn't worthy of media coverage though."

I live in Spain and I heard about it. Media coverage.

How do you know about it?

Gbat

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By *batMan 23 weeks ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

"That’s because you don’t understand and that’s the problem. "

Then explain.

But use facts not rhetoric. Show links to those facts. Sources that support your explanation.

Go for it!

Gbat

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By *rPunxMan 23 weeks ago

Hull

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

It’s out and out racism badly disguised as right to protest. An excuse for Tommy Robinson thugs to break things and attack police. It’s shameful.

100%

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By *ohnnyTwoNotesMan 23 weeks ago

golden fields

"The root cause is the amount of illegal people in the uk also the religion that they preach and the problems that it brings.

When given everything for free like they have also brings problems. The amount of people and costs are not sustainable in the real world.

Labour massively inflammatory statement caused another problem.

As a country we do need to hit the stop button on illegal immigration.

You’ve been had.

People in boats crossing the channel are not your enemy. But your real enemy has done a good job of painting them as the baddies.

Blaming a certain religion is also an age old favourite of racists and extremists and has been a significant factor in genocide in your lifetime and before.

Your use of massively sweeping generalisations with no basis in facts is a major cause of societal problems. THAT is a major part of the problem.

Gbat "

As the saying goes.

Our enemy doesn't arrive in a small boat. They arrive by private jet.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple 23 weeks ago

in Lancashire

Is that the same Afghans who were with our troops over there putting themselves on the line too?

Not sure it's worth asking about the source of the convenient figure you've quoted but one of the correct criticisms from several ex services MPs on all sides plus retired senior military officers was that many were abandoned because the then Tory foreign secretary was too busy with a holiday to plan for what was inevitable..

And as for the we have people sleeping on the streets, yes we do ..We who are ex military have seen them too but you do know that some people choose to live that way and the reasons for that are far more complicated than this thread has space for..

I'm with you on the fact that successive governments have set the conditions where the perception of themselves being out of touch with working people across the board and the real issues affecting all, not just those we see rioting..

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By *rPunxMan 23 weeks ago

Hull

"How many murders have the so called far right committed in this country? How many murders have islamist fanatics committed? Yet stalin starmer, prostrate himself to the alien cultures and condemns ordinary concerned people as far right. The elite have ignored ordinary people for to long. Blair mandelson brown allowed to many immigrants in. The country is losing it's identity as the indigenous population are disapated,. Enoch Powell warned of this catastrophe, they should never have been allowed in. Rivers of blood, murder, r*** on industrial scale multiculturalism as failed. Cultures are different, and Islam is alien to English values. English people have been silenced vy the leftist elite, we want our country back. "
so it's OK when the left fight for equity on sexuality and gender but not OK when it's about race or religion? Well that's not how equality works. Also say you get what 'good ole enoch' wanted and the 'foreigners' are removed. Then who's next on the list just because they are different and ask yourself where the LGBTQ+ Community appears on that list.

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By *batMan 23 weeks ago

Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales)

And I hope some other users are also reporting the racist/discriminatory posts to admin?

It’s important to call it out when you see it.

Gbat

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