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By (user no longer on site) OP    24 weeks ago

Long story short..

I had a bad breakup last year, aswell as a pretty traumatic injury, where i snapped my leg in two places, i was in a very dark place mentally.

My friend, who is also a long time mutual friend of my ex, has been dating my ex. I had my suspicions, i told him if anything was going on, he needed to be honest with me, he wasnt, he told me it was nothing n they were just friends who hang out a lot. She hasnt spoken to me, at all since we broke up.

I found out through someone else that they are seeing eachother, not only that, but they potentially fucked while i was still going round hers (after the breakup, you know how it can be..)

Theres other details, not sure how much of all of this i believe, but the fact is that he lied to me, they both did. Went behind my back, he told me to stop worrying and even one point got a bit funny with me as in like "come on man you've asked me this before" sort of thing..

Initially, i hated them both, infact, i told my 'friend' that if i saw him again he better hope im in a good mood.

As i said, i was in a dark place, but ive pulled myself out of it in the past month or two and im doing really good.

Ive learned a lot from the relatioship, and just in general, after months of self reflection and personal growth, ive come to the mind set of not having negative feelings hang over me towards anything or anyone. I reached out to my 'friend' and apologised for using threatening language, told him i wasnt happy with how things went, but im essentially willing to hear him out and let it be and move on and maybe work on our friendship.

Hes still seeing my ex, but ive heard that its not exactly going well (lol), and hes starting to realise she is no good, and i doubt they will be together too long.

Since i said sorry, my 'friend' has been reaching out, liking my insta stories and posts and whatever else, it seems he is happy that i dont want to kill him anymore and wants to be friends.

He wants to meet soon for a pint and some food. As i said, i dont want to hold negative energy, its too tiring, and yes, im willing to give him a chance.

But, if we meet, i dont know what to talk about, im not sure I'm ready to hear his potential bullshit or if i sense hes just waffling to me about it, i dont know if ill be over the moon. But i do really wanna just move on and be happy, and to be honest, before all this, he was a good friend and in an ideal world, we would be pals again.

What would you do in this situation? Ive been breif with details but can go into it more if anyone has questions.

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman 24 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

I don't like to keep people around me who've proven they will lie to me about things that they know matter to me.

But you can make your own choices on the matter 💜

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By *icecouple561Couple 24 weeks ago
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East Sussex

He lied. That isn't good. Why did he lie? If you can understand that you might be able to carry on a relationship with him.

Don't delight in their relationship failing.

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By *hagMan 24 weeks ago

wrexham

Very hard situation that is. I would have so much anger myself if a friend did that. Ive had a lot of bad years myself for different reasons, realstionships, trust issues, breakups, etc. Time is something that makes you reflect. But that time can be awful. Feel your pain friend. Keep strong

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By *riar BelisseWoman 24 weeks ago

Delightful Bliss

Sex makes people do stoopid things... but I'm afraid I'm a cut you out of my life, betray my trust kinda gal.

I've other friends who can talk to me about anything

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By *nightsoftheCoffeeTableCouple 24 weeks ago

Leeds

Personally if people close repeatedly lie they no longer have space in my life, I have zero time for drama, bad energy & friends that can't be trusted.

I like my life easy.

Mrs

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By *929Man 24 weeks ago

bedlington

Just draw a line under it and forget about both of them mate.

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By *affron40Woman 24 weeks ago

manchester


"I don't like to keep people around me who've proven they will lie to me about things that they know matter to me.

But you can make your own choices on the matter 💜"

This sums it up for me too.

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By (user no longer on site) OP    24 weeks ago


"He lied. That isn't good. Why did he lie? If you can understand that you might be able to carry on a relationship with him.

Don't delight in their relationship failing. "

Sorry, but i will absolutely take delight in it

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By *icecouple561Couple 24 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"He lied. That isn't good. Why did he lie? If you can understand that you might be able to carry on a relationship with him.

Don't delight in their relationship failing.

Sorry, but i will absolutely take delight in it"

Fair enough. You do what's best for you but I thought you'd decided to love not hate.

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By (user no longer on site) OP    24 weeks ago

She is the type of girl who probably made him feel like he couldn't say anything to anyone about them, especially to me. She doesn't even fancy him! She used to take this piss out of him when we were dating. Essentially, she isnt a very nice woman.

He is, i think she probably made out like i was the worst person, and him being the simp he is, believed her. And thought that because hes a nice guy, he wouldnt have an issue with her.

Now he is realising that she isnt all that nice.

Essentially, i wanna know why he lied, i wanna know why hes dating her, i wanna know why hes essentially gone behind my back in one of the darkest times of my life.

But yeah, to be fair, i dont know if i can go back to being his friend fully, especially while they are both still seeing eachother or watever is going on. I feel like once ive heard him out i will have a nit of closure on the situation maybe?

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By *hristopherd999Man 24 weeks ago

Brentwood

Personally I wouldn't bother with him at all

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By (user no longer on site) OP    24 weeks ago


"He lied. That isn't good. Why did he lie? If you can understand that you might be able to carry on a relationship with him.

Don't delight in their relationship failing.

Sorry, but i will absolutely take delight in it

Fair enough. You do what's best for you but I thought you'd decided to love not hate. "

I mean yeah, as in i dont want to be constantly hating on them, and i dont want to be thinking "if i bump into them, i dno how im gonna react" i just wanna let it be.

But that being said, the fact that they both fucked me over, a little bit of me is happy that its not going well, sort of like karma, but thats not me hating, its something else i cant put my finger on right now cos im tired haha

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By *ou only live onceMan 24 weeks ago

London

Guess it depends on how much you value his friendship and want him in your life. Only you can decide that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP    24 weeks ago


"Guess it depends on how much you value his friendship and want him in your life. Only you can decide that."

Hmm. I really dont know to be honest. I think im just trying to be a better person.

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By *icecouple561Couple 24 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"He lied. That isn't good. Why did he lie? If you can understand that you might be able to carry on a relationship with him.

Don't delight in their relationship failing.

Sorry, but i will absolutely take delight in it

Fair enough. You do what's best for you but I thought you'd decided to love not hate.

I mean yeah, as in i dont want to be constantly hating on them, and i dont want to be thinking "if i bump into them, i dno how im gonna react" i just wanna let it be.

But that being said, the fact that they both fucked me over, a little bit of me is happy that its not going well, sort of like karma, but thats not me hating, its something else i cant put my finger on right now cos im tired haha"

It is a bit now people think karma works but if it is it works all ways...

It's human nature to feel a bit pleased in these circumstances I think.

See your friend if you want to and if it's going to sort your head out

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By (user no longer on site) OP    24 weeks ago


"He lied. That isn't good. Why did he lie? If you can understand that you might be able to carry on a relationship with him.

Don't delight in their relationship failing.

Sorry, but i will absolutely take delight in it

Fair enough. You do what's best for you but I thought you'd decided to love not hate.

I mean yeah, as in i dont want to be constantly hating on them, and i dont want to be thinking "if i bump into them, i dno how im gonna react" i just wanna let it be.

But that being said, the fact that they both fucked me over, a little bit of me is happy that its not going well, sort of like karma, but thats not me hating, its something else i cant put my finger on right now cos im tired haha

It is a bit now people think karma works but if it is it works all ways...

It's human nature to feel a bit pleased in these circumstances I think.

See your friend if you want to and if it's going to sort your head out"

Its purely because i want a bit moee closure, i want the truth, and i want to drop negative feelings.

I dont know if i want to be his friend again, i cerainly cant trust him, but yeah i think ill just hear him out and go from there.

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By (user no longer on site) OP    24 weeks ago

Thank you all x

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By *piritualBlackBWW1979Woman 24 weeks ago

Medway


"Long story short..

I had a bad breakup last year, aswell as a pretty traumatic injury, where i snapped my leg in two places, i was in a very dark place mentally.

My friend, who is also a long time mutual friend of my ex, has been dating my ex. I had my suspicions, i told him if anything was going on, he needed to be honest with me, he wasnt, he told me it was nothing n they were just friends who hang out a lot. She hasnt spoken to me, at all since we broke up.

I found out through someone else that they are seeing eachother, not only that, but they potentially fucked while i was still going round hers (after the breakup, you know how it can be..)

Theres other details, not sure how much of all of this i believe, but the fact is that he lied to me, they both did. Went behind my back, he told me to stop worrying and even one point got a bit funny with me as in like "come on man you've asked me this before" sort of thing..

Initially, i hated them both, infact, i told my 'friend' that if i saw him again he better hope im in a good mood.

As i said, i was in a dark place, but ive pulled myself out of it in the past month or two and im doing really good.

Ive learned a lot from the relatioship, and just in general, after months of self reflection and personal growth, ive come to the mind set of not having negative feelings hang over me towards anything or anyone. I reached out to my 'friend' and apologised for using threatening language, told him i wasnt happy with how things went, but im essentially willing to hear him out and let it be and move on and maybe work on our friendship.

Hes still seeing my ex, but ive heard that its not exactly going well (lol), and hes starting to realise she is no good, and i doubt they will be together too long.

Since i said sorry, my 'friend' has been reaching out, liking my insta stories and posts and whatever else, it seems he is happy that i dont want to kill him anymore and wants to be friends.

He wants to meet soon for a pint and some food. As i said, i dont want to hold negative energy, its too tiring, and yes, im willing to give him a chance.

But, if we meet, i dont know what to talk about, im not sure I'm ready to hear his potential bullshit or if i sense hes just waffling to me about it, i dont know if ill be over the moon. But i do really wanna just move on and be happy, and to be honest, before all this, he was a good friend and in an ideal world, we would be pals again.

What would you do in this situation? Ive been breif with details but can go into it more if anyone has questions."

I'm not sure if anyone has said this, no one is owed space in your life. Forgiveness doesn't mean you have to be friends, it does mean that you have found peace over the situation. I would only hang out with the person if you felt the need deep down. If that's not there, then I would leave him and love him from afar. Personally, being that deceitful is a fast track way out of my life for good.

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By (user no longer on site) OP    24 weeks ago


"Long story short..

I had a bad breakup last year, aswell as a pretty traumatic injury, where i snapped my leg in two places, i was in a very dark place mentally.

My friend, who is also a long time mutual friend of my ex, has been dating my ex. I had my suspicions, i told him if anything was going on, he needed to be honest with me, he wasnt, he told me it was nothing n they were just friends who hang out a lot. She hasnt spoken to me, at all since we broke up.

I found out through someone else that they are seeing eachother, not only that, but they potentially fucked while i was still going round hers (after the breakup, you know how it can be..)

Theres other details, not sure how much of all of this i believe, but the fact is that he lied to me, they both did. Went behind my back, he told me to stop worrying and even one point got a bit funny with me as in like "come on man you've asked me this before" sort of thing..

Initially, i hated them both, infact, i told my 'friend' that if i saw him again he better hope im in a good mood.

As i said, i was in a dark place, but ive pulled myself out of it in the past month or two and im doing really good.

Ive learned a lot from the relatioship, and just in general, after months of self reflection and personal growth, ive come to the mind set of not having negative feelings hang over me towards anything or anyone. I reached out to my 'friend' and apologised for using threatening language, told him i wasnt happy with how things went, but im essentially willing to hear him out and let it be and move on and maybe work on our friendship.

Hes still seeing my ex, but ive heard that its not exactly going well (lol), and hes starting to realise she is no good, and i doubt they will be together too long.

Since i said sorry, my 'friend' has been reaching out, liking my insta stories and posts and whatever else, it seems he is happy that i dont want to kill him anymore and wants to be friends.

He wants to meet soon for a pint and some food. As i said, i dont want to hold negative energy, its too tiring, and yes, im willing to give him a chance.

But, if we meet, i dont know what to talk about, im not sure I'm ready to hear his potential bullshit or if i sense hes just waffling to me about it, i dont know if ill be over the moon. But i do really wanna just move on and be happy, and to be honest, before all this, he was a good friend and in an ideal world, we would be pals again.

What would you do in this situation? Ive been breif with details but can go into it more if anyone has questions. I'm not sure if anyone has said this, no one is owed space in your life. Forgiveness doesn't mean you have to be friends, it does mean that you have found peace over the situation. I would only hang out with the person if you felt the need deep down. If that's not there, then I would leave him and love him from afar. Personally, being that deceitful is a fast track way out of my life for good. "

Thank you. Yeah i think thats it, i just want to be at peace. I dont think im comfy hanging out with him, again, especially while hes with her. I just want peace, some clarity, and maybe closure.

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By *eliWoman 24 weeks ago

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You don't have to love someone. Or hate them. You can be indifferent OP and that's absolutely fine.

I wouldn't feel too bad about feeling delight in their relationship ending - she hurt you clearly and he added to that. You're human. You've not engineered it so it did.

You don't need to accept people back in to your life when they've repeatedly lied to you. I chose to not because I chose me. And that's fine. There's only a certain amount of deceit anyone should put up with - you can forgive them for being twunty but you're also... allowed to not forget they were and remember how much better your life is without someone who'd lie to you so easily is.

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By *ivemealadybonerWoman 24 weeks ago

somewhere

I don't like using the word hate, as it's a very strong word to use.

I would meet for a drink and see how things lie with you two, because if you don't know will never know, I think it would become obvious if things are the same or not quite quickly but chances are the friendship you once had will be gone, that also said, you can say "good bye" to the past, I knowing you did absolutely everything in your power to try and put right, if that makes sense? Of course there is the side of it, if you two do meet, will it be dragging up stuff and making you go back into a place you don't want to be? While you have learnt from the experience, are you completely ready as all emotions will rise again.

I wish you well x

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By *bi HaiveMan 24 weeks ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset

To me the best closure is to cut ties, forget about them and move on.

Dwelling about they why's won't help and given he lied about seeing her do you really think he'll honestly answer any of the questions you have for him?

No point revelling in the potential for their relationship to be messy either. It'll just keep her and him in your head.

Move on.

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By (user no longer on site) 24 weeks ago


"To me the best closure is to cut ties, forget about them and move on.

Dwelling about they why's won't help and given he lied about seeing her do you really think he'll honestly answer any of the questions you have for him?

No point revelling in the potential for their relationship to be messy either. It'll just keep her and him in your head.

Move on. "

I agree with above.

Trust is like reputation, hard to get but easy to squander.

Even if you meet up, what will that achieve? He's lied to you before,when you were in need of a friend, what makes you think that he won't lie again to cover up his previous lies?

He's currently living rent free in your head.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman 24 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross

I think you should leave him alone.

I'm glad you are feeling good and able to grow personally but I don't think it's a good idea for this friendship to take off again.

Being civil to each other yes. Forgiving past events - yes. Buddying up ..... no. Definitely no.

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By (user no longer on site) OP    24 weeks ago


"To me the best closure is to cut ties, forget about them and move on.

Dwelling about they why's won't help and given he lied about seeing her do you really think he'll honestly answer any of the questions you have for him?

No point revelling in the potential for their relationship to be messy either. It'll just keep her and him in your head.

Move on.

I agree with above.

Trust is like reputation, hard to get but easy to squander.

Even if you meet up, what will that achieve? He's lied to you before,when you were in need of a friend, what makes you think that he won't lie again to cover up his previous lies?

He's currently living rent free in your head."

Of course hes in my head. Hes fucking my ex lol.

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By *icecouple561Couple 24 weeks ago
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East Sussex

Ex being the operative word here

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By (user no longer on site) 24 weeks ago

If you want to move in and be happy…. Do that.

Sounds like you are best out of the lives of your ex and your EX mate.

The reason you got yourself sorted was through helping yourself with them in your life.

🌈

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