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By *idssissy OP TV/TS 24 weeks ago
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A young lady gets on a train for a night out in a mini skirt and top. As she walks by a pensioner couple, the wife remarks 'no wonder they get r**ed'
Absolutely stupid comment to make but is it just an age thing or a no filter thing?
I know my mum tutted at some of the outfits Taylor Swift wore at her recent Dublin gigs but don't think she would make a comment like that. |
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For me using generations as an excuse no longer stacks up.
I am sure there are differences between the generation they grew up with to the ones before them
For me it is rude and I would have said something to the person saying that |
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I think it is often a generational thing. I overheard something similar said to a young woman a few years ago, it made me so mad.
Victim blaming is real and there are many that think it and don’t say it too. |
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The current generation of older people were young in the swinging 60s and 70s, when mini skirts were all the rage, skin tight flares and free love abounded.
Nowt generational, just twats being twats. |
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By *idssissy OP TV/TS 24 weeks ago
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"For me using generations as an excuse no longer stacks up.
I am sure there are differences between the generation they grew up with to the ones before them
For me it is rude and I would have said something to the person saying that "
She was confronted but did not back down from her views. |
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"A young lady gets on a train for a night out in a mini skirt and top. As she walks by a pensioner couple, the wife remarks 'no wonder they get r**ed'
Absolutely stupid comment to make but is it just an age thing or a no filter thing?
I know my mum tutted at some of the outfits Taylor Swift wore at her recent Dublin gigs but don't think she would make a comment like that. "
It’s her opinion and she was talking to her husband.
No one else’s business.
Not very nice though. |
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"The current generation of older people were young in the swinging 60s and 70s, when mini skirts were all the rage, skin tight flares and free love abounded.
Nowt generational, just twats being twats. "
This, possibly a jealous nasty comment from someone who didn't partake in those at times hedonistic times.. |
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The much older generation, I'm referring to people my dad's age who grew up in WW2, often have vastly different opinions on many things. Not all of them by any means but a sizable majority.
I'm a pensioner and would never dream of saying or even thinking such a thing but if you question the thinking and motives of many young people deeply you might find attitudes not far removed from this |
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Also 'telling it like it is' is another way of saying no filter and a lot of people of all ages seem to be quite proud of that along with 'the truth never hurt anybody ' as an excuse for expressing horrible opinions with no basis in fact whatsoever |
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It's a bit of both I think. Victim blaming wasn't looked at quite so badly years ago. It's still victim blaming, but it think it was more accepted a generation ago. Doesn't make it right, I'm just saying it was more accepted. You have to remember that it wasn't all that long ago when a victims past sexual activity could be used as a defence in court. Again, doesn't make it right, but it was perfectly legal for a defending barrister to ask very intimate questions to a victim. |
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"The much older generation, I'm referring to people my dad's age who grew up in WW2, often have vastly different opinions on many things. Not all of them by any means but a sizable majority.
I'm a pensioner and would never dream of saying or even thinking such a thing but if you question the thinking and motives of many young people deeply you might find attitudes not far removed from this"
This! I've seen/heard some horrendously "outdated" comments from folk in their 20's and 30's.
Not all of us oldies are narrow minded and nasty  |
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"The much older generation, I'm referring to people my dad's age who grew up in WW2, often have vastly different opinions on many things. Not all of them by any means but a sizable majority.
I'm a pensioner and would never dream of saying or even thinking such a thing but if you question the thinking and motives of many young people deeply you might find attitudes not far removed from this
This! I've seen/heard some horrendously "outdated" comments from folk in their 20's and 30's.
Not all of us oldies are narrow minded and nasty "
It's a useful stereotype though along with we're all awash with money from huge private pensions living in mansions we bought for sixpence in 1985.  |
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"The much older generation, I'm referring to people my dad's age who grew up in WW2, often have vastly different opinions on many things. Not all of them by any means but a sizable majority.
I'm a pensioner and would never dream of saying or even thinking such a thing but if you question the thinking and motives of many young people deeply you might find attitudes not far removed from this
This! I've seen/heard some horrendously "outdated" comments from folk in their 20's and 30's.
Not all of us oldies are narrow minded and nasty
It's a useful stereotype though along with we're all awash with money from huge private pensions living in mansions we bought for sixpence in 1985. "
Even I know we were decimalised by 1985! I call BS  |
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"The much older generation, I'm referring to people my dad's age who grew up in WW2, often have vastly different opinions on many things. Not all of them by any means but a sizable majority.
I'm a pensioner and would never dream of saying or even thinking such a thing but if you question the thinking and motives of many young people deeply you might find attitudes not far removed from this
This! I've seen/heard some horrendously "outdated" comments from folk in their 20's and 30's.
Not all of us oldies are narrow minded and nasty
It's a useful stereotype though along with we're all awash with money from huge private pensions living in mansions we bought for sixpence in 1985.
Even I know we were decimalised by 1985! I call BS "
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It's a useful stereotype though along with we're all awash with money from huge private pensions living in mansions we bought for sixpence in 1985. "
So true! I recently accessed a pension early and have been enjoying spending it after years of frugality. My work colleague (aged 29) jealously comments about older folk being loaded. I reply that this will you, too, when you've worked hard for 35 or 40 yrs  |
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If we pander to the older generation by saying "it's just a generation thing" then we're ignoring that the 60' & 70's saw the free love moment, micro minis etc.
They've had long enough to progress along with everyone else. Some are just ignorant and refuse to change, it's just that simple and is very much alive and well in all generations.
The women sounds like a pick me. |
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It's a useful stereotype though along with we're all awash with money from huge private pensions living in mansions we bought for sixpence in 1985.
So true! I recently accessed a pension early and have been enjoying spending it after years of frugality. My work colleague (aged 29) jealously comments about older folk being loaded. I reply that this will you, too, when you've worked hard for 35 or 40 yrs "
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It's a useful stereotype though along with we're all awash with money from huge private pensions living in mansions we bought for sixpence in 1985.
So true! I recently accessed a pension early and have been enjoying spending it after years of frugality. My work colleague (aged 29) jealously comments about older folk being loaded. I reply that this will you, too, when you've worked hard for 35 or 40 yrs "
I genuinely believe that a lot of people really think that pensioners ought to be poor. Until it's their turn |
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It's a useful stereotype though along with we're all awash with money from huge private pensions living in mansions we bought for sixpence in 1985.
So true! I recently accessed a pension early and have been enjoying spending it after years of frugality. My work colleague (aged 29) jealously comments about older folk being loaded. I reply that this will you, too, when you've worked hard for 35 or 40 yrs
I genuinely believe that a lot of people really think that pensioners ought to be poor. Until it's their turn"
Yes, it's the nastier side of the "what about me, me, me" generation.
Luckily, the vast majority of folk I know are genuinely pleased for me. 🤎 |
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"A young lady gets on a train for a night out in a mini skirt and top. As she walks by a pensioner couple, the wife remarks 'no wonder they get r**ed'
Absolutely stupid comment to make but is it just an age thing or a no filter thing?
I know my mum tutted at some of the outfits Taylor Swift wore at her recent Dublin gigs but don't think she would make a comment like that.
It’s her opinion and she was talking to her husband.
No one else’s business.
Not very nice though."
By saying it loud enough for everyone else to hear she made it everyone else's business. If she didn't want confronting she should have kept her nasty comments to herself. |
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I hate the idea of a different generation being an excuse because ultimately, you can find people in all generations with different viewpoints. A cunt is a cunt, regardless of age. |
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By (user no longer on site) 24 weeks ago
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It's an honest comment. People need to stop pretending and face reality sometimes. Feelings mean little when you encounter unsavoury types that want to hurt you or take advantage. |
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I think anyone in their teens or older in the swinging sixties, and anyone younger than that, is too young for the "generations" excuse.
I think it's a combination of older social norms (shaping their views), and a general decline in filters: we can say whatever we want no matter how rude, because free speech. |
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"It's an honest comment. People need to stop pretending and face reality sometimes. Feelings mean little when you encounter unsavoury types that want to hurt you or take advantage."
Clothing choices don't cause sexual assault. That is victim blaming.
Sarah Everard was wearing head to toe clothing, including a woolly hat and other winter gear. It didn't put that police man off. |
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"It's an honest comment. People need to stop pretending and face reality sometimes. Feelings mean little when you encounter unsavoury types that want to hurt you or take advantage.
Clothing choices don't cause sexual assault. That is victim blaming.
Sarah Everard was wearing head to toe clothing, including a woolly hat and other winter gear. It didn't put that police man off."
My recollection is that sexual crime rates in countries like Saudi Arabia are very high. If clothing choices were a factor, then you'd think they'd be lower. |
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"It's an honest comment. People need to stop pretending and face reality sometimes. Feelings mean little when you encounter unsavoury types that want to hurt you or take advantage."
Here is the thing though...
For those of us that aren't unsavory advantage taking types...
Maybe we can be a little more considerate of each others feelings? |
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"It's an honest comment. People need to stop pretending and face reality sometimes. Feelings mean little when you encounter unsavoury types that want to hurt you or take advantage.
Here is the thing though...
For those of us that aren't unsavory advantage taking types...
Maybe we can be a little more considerate of each others feelings?"
If I engaged in the kind of brutal honesty that some advocate, I'd be shunned from polite society.
I have lots of honesty that I hold back because it's not warranted |
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"A young lady gets on a train for a night out in a mini skirt and top. As she walks by a pensioner couple, the wife remarks 'no wonder they get r**ed'
Absolutely stupid comment to make but is it just an age thing or a no filter thing?
I know my mum tutted at some of the outfits Taylor Swift wore at her recent Dublin gigs but don't think she would make a comment like that. "
has this happened or is this just fantasy? Either way it’s a big no to shaming anyone. Most pensioners were you fin the 60s and should be quite used to mini skirts. |
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"It's an honest comment. People need to stop pretending and face reality sometimes. Feelings mean little when you encounter unsavoury types that want to hurt you or take advantage.
Here is the thing though...
For those of us that aren't unsavory advantage taking types...
Maybe we can be a little more considerate of each others feelings?
If I engaged in the kind of brutal honesty that some advocate, I'd be shunned from polite society.
I have lots of honesty that I hold back because it's not warranted "
Just become one of those I say it how I see it people... everyone loves those people |
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"It's an honest comment. People need to stop pretending and face reality sometimes. Feelings mean little when you encounter unsavoury types that want to hurt you or take advantage.
Here is the thing though...
For those of us that aren't unsavory advantage taking types...
Maybe we can be a little more considerate of each others feelings?
If I engaged in the kind of brutal honesty that some advocate, I'd be shunned from polite society.
I have lots of honesty that I hold back because it's not warranted
Just become one of those I say it how I see it people... everyone loves those people"
Fuck no. I'll also leave my opinions on those people to myself, although I'm sure you can infer the tone of it. |
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I will say that *some* very old people lived through very different times with very different views if the world and if women. I'm not excusing this person's behaviour however I think a certain understanding should be extended while challenging opinions.
I'm thinking of my dad here who is genuinely mystified by a lot of things happening around him and current attitudes. Although he'd never say anything as awful as this woman |
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By *idssissy OP TV/TS 24 weeks ago
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"A young lady gets on a train for a night out in a mini skirt and top. As she walks by a pensioner couple, the wife remarks 'no wonder they get r**ed'
Absolutely stupid comment to make but is it just an age thing or a no filter thing?
I know my mum tutted at some of the outfits Taylor Swift wore at her recent Dublin gigs but don't think she would make a comment like that. has this happened or is this just fantasy? Either way it’s a big no to shaming anyone. Most pensioners were you fin the 60s and should be quite used to mini skirts. "
Actual event |
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"I will say that *some* very old people lived through very different times with very different views if the world and if women. I'm not excusing this person's behaviour however I think a certain understanding should be extended while challenging opinions.
I'm thinking of my dad here who is genuinely mystified by a lot of things happening around him and current attitudes. Although he'd never say anything as awful as this woman "
I think older people can be forgiven for struggling to understand and even accept changes in the world to a degree.
But they are old enough to know what is and isn't offensive to say to random strangers.
Sometimes I think we forget our elderly relatives are actually still grown ass adults.
And it's no the first time in their lifetimes there has been cultural changes |
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"It’s her opinion and she was talking to her husband.
No one else’s business.
Not very nice though."
They said it loud enough to be heard by others in a train, so they chose to make it other people’s ‘business’. |
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"I will say that *some* very old people lived through very different times with very different views if the world and if women. I'm not excusing this person's behaviour however I think a certain understanding should be extended while challenging opinions.
I'm thinking of my dad here who is genuinely mystified by a lot of things happening around him and current attitudes. Although he'd never say anything as awful as this woman
I think older people can be forgiven for struggling to understand and even accept changes in the world to a degree.
But they are old enough to know what is and isn't offensive to say to random strangers.
Sometimes I think we forget our elderly relatives are actually still grown ass adults.
And it's no the first time in their lifetimes there has been cultural changes "
I agree. A lot of people think I should be treating my dad as if he's s child.
It's a fine line and dependent on any cognitive changes that might be going on but mostly if you've held entrenched, horrible views as a young person you're likely to still hold them as an old person |
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I think people need to think before the speak. My hubby's Nan was one of those that prided herself on 'saying it as it is'.
She was a bitch at times and everyone knew it. It backfired at a family gathering were she was 'saying it as it was'. Basically saying some of her great granddaughters were dressed like sluts and were asking for it. She was with a couple of friends who were friends of the family. These woman all grew up during WW2 and at least two had had kids out of wedlock during the war.
My hubby 'snap' and said in the loudest voice that was acceptable, "Shut up, you two got knocked up for chocolates and stocking, you can't say anything'.
Each generation thinks they were the beat but nothing changes. That bollocks that people say about always speaking the truth is just code forsaking they have no tact.
Just be nice, or stay quiet.
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"It's a fine line and dependent on any cognitive changes that might be going on but mostly if you've held entrenched, horrible views as a young person you're likely to still hold them as an old person "
I realised a good few years ago how much of my family's racism I'd internalised growing up. I already knew better than to say the things out loud, but the little intrusive thoughts remained quietly calling from the sidelines. As an adult I'm capable of understanding why holding those views just because they're what I was raised with is not an appropriate way to move forward, and that masking them is not the same as resolving them.
Sometimes I'll encounter something I haven't thought about for decades, and the shock of how out dated and abhorrent to my own morality my inner recollections are is really something. It's not easy to change those embedded records, especially when they've been forgotten about and left to stay safely in the darker recesses for years, quietly digging deeper grooves for their beds. But I think anyone who shrugs it off as unimportant because it's just how they were raised is just not a good person at heart 💜 |
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By *essTTWoman 24 weeks ago
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"A young lady gets on a train for a night out in a mini skirt and top. As she walks by a pensioner couple, the wife remarks 'no wonder they get r**ed'
Absolutely stupid comment to make but is it just an age thing or a no filter thing?
I know my mum tutted at some of the outfits Taylor Swift wore at her recent Dublin gigs but don't think she would make a comment like that. has this happened or is this just fantasy? Either way it’s a big no to shaming anyone. Most pensioners were you fin the 60s and should be quite used to mini skirts. "
It happened the girl caught the lady saying it and confronted her on camera. It was posted on tiktok |
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"It's a fine line and dependent on any cognitive changes that might be going on but mostly if you've held entrenched, horrible views as a young person you're likely to still hold them as an old person
I realised a good few years ago how much of my family's racism I'd internalised growing up. I already knew better than to say the things out loud, but the little intrusive thoughts remained quietly calling from the sidelines. As an adult I'm capable of understanding why holding those views just because they're what I was raised with is not an appropriate way to move forward, and that masking them is not the same as resolving them.
Sometimes I'll encounter something I haven't thought about for decades, and the shock of how out dated and abhorrent to my own morality my inner recollections are is really something. It's not easy to change those embedded records, especially when they've been forgotten about and left to stay safely in the darker recesses for years, quietly digging deeper grooves for their beds. But I think anyone who shrugs it off as unimportant because it's just how they were raised is just not a good person at heart 💜"
You're right. It does require self awareness and a level of introspection not granted to all though.
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"A young lady gets on a train for a night out in a mini skirt and top. As she walks by a pensioner couple, the wife remarks 'no wonder they get r**ed'
Absolutely stupid comment to make but is it just an age thing or a no filter thing?
I know my mum tutted at some of the outfits Taylor Swift wore at her recent Dublin gigs but don't think she would make a comment like that.
It’s her opinion and she was talking to her husband.
No one else’s business.
Not very nice though.
By saying it loud enough for everyone else to hear she made it everyone else's business. If she didn't want confronting she should have kept her nasty comments to herself. "
She might have said it too loud due the them both being hard of hearing. A conversation between two people isn’t anyone else’s business even if they’re over heard.
She might have been a prissy bitch deliberately saying it to get her attention.
We don’t know. |
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"It’s her opinion and she was talking to her husband.
No one else’s business.
Not very nice though.
They said it loud enough to be heard by others in a train, so they chose to make it other people’s ‘business’."
Bit of an assumption? How do you know they chose? |
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"It's a fine line and dependent on any cognitive changes that might be going on but mostly if you've held entrenched, horrible views as a young person you're likely to still hold them as an old person
I realised a good few years ago how much of my family's racism I'd internalised growing up. I already knew better than to say the things out loud, but the little intrusive thoughts remained quietly calling from the sidelines. As an adult I'm capable of understanding why holding those views just because they're what I was raised with is not an appropriate way to move forward, and that masking them is not the same as resolving them.
Sometimes I'll encounter something I haven't thought about for decades, and the shock of how out dated and abhorrent to my own morality my inner recollections are is really something. It's not easy to change those embedded records, especially when they've been forgotten about and left to stay safely in the darker recesses for years, quietly digging deeper grooves for their beds. But I think anyone who shrugs it off as unimportant because it's just how they were raised is just not a good person at heart 💜"
In therapy I came across this "the first thought is your conditioning. Your second thought is who you are" |
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By *an hjCouple 24 weeks ago
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"A young lady gets on a train for a night out in a mini skirt and top. As she walks by a pensioner couple, the wife remarks 'no wonder they get r**ed'
Absolutely stupid comment to make but is it just an age thing or a no filter thing?
I know my mum tutted at some of the outfits Taylor Swift wore at her recent Dublin gigs but don't think she would make a comment like that. "
Nothing to do with age/generation, just simply stupidity. |
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"A few judgey comments.
My Mum has dementia and would often call things out such as size, clothes, etc. Not a lot I or she could do about it."
My grandfather began to say horrific things as he began to slip away.
I figure that this was his filter going. What he said would have been acceptable in the 1940s, certainly not in the 2000s and 2010s. He was losing his ability to hold back what he'd been taught as a boy. |
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By *a LunaWoman 24 weeks ago
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I saw this video on the Tik of Tok!
I think it was a pretty shitty thing to say.
But when the lass confronted her, she sounded very mature of age. So I think it was a generational thing. But it was still a shitty thing to say to someone who was just going about her day.
I thought the lass confronted her and put her point across well. |
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"A young lady gets on a train for a night out in a mini skirt and top. As she walks by a pensioner couple, the wife remarks 'no wonder they get r**ed'
Absolutely stupid comment to make but is it just an age thing or a no filter thing?
I know my mum tutted at some of the outfits Taylor Swift wore at her recent Dublin gigs but don't think she would make a comment like that. "
OP is this something that actually happened or a ‘what if’ scenario 😳😳 |
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"A few judgey comments.
My Mum has dementia and would often call things out such as size, clothes, etc. Not a lot I or she could do about it."
Yes, my Dad has dementia and behaves deplorably on a range of measures but seeing some of the comments here reinforces that some members of society have no filter and/or like to be rude about other people. |
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"A few judgey comments.
My Mum has dementia and would often call things out such as size, clothes, etc. Not a lot I or she could do about it.
Yes, my Dad has dementia and behaves deplorably on a range of measures but seeing some of the comments here reinforces that some members of society have no filter and/or like to be rude about other people. "
Yes, I think there's been a societal emboldening of spewing whatever bile rises in your throat. |
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"I saw this video on the Tik of Tok!
I think it was a pretty shitty thing to say.
But when the lass confronted her, she sounded very mature of age. So I think it was a generational thing. But it was still a shitty thing to say to someone who was just going about her day.
I thought the lass confronted her and put her point across well."
Why was it being filmed? Or was it cctv? |
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By *essTTWoman 24 weeks ago
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"I saw this video on the Tik of Tok!
I think it was a pretty shitty thing to say.
But when the lass confronted her, she sounded very mature of age. So I think it was a generational thing. But it was still a shitty thing to say to someone who was just going about her day.
I thought the lass confronted her and put her point across well.
Why was it being filmed? Or was it cctv?"
The girl heard the woman make the comment and recorded the confrontation |
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"I saw this video on the Tik of Tok!
I think it was a pretty shitty thing to say.
But when the lass confronted her, she sounded very mature of age. So I think it was a generational thing. But it was still a shitty thing to say to someone who was just going about her day.
I thought the lass confronted her and put her point across well.
Why was it being filmed? Or was it cctv?
The girl heard the woman make the comment and recorded the confrontation "
I see. |
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"I saw this video on the Tik of Tok!
I think it was a pretty shitty thing to say.
But when the lass confronted her, she sounded very mature of age. So I think it was a generational thing. But it was still a shitty thing to say to someone who was just going about her day.
Doesn’t matter what age you are , it’s out of order it could be upbringing? But at that stage of life they should know better, it’s a free world to wear whatever we want and put smiles on faces not comments on lips
I thought the lass confronted her and put her point across well.
Why was it being filmed? Or was it cctv?
The girl heard the woman make the comment and recorded the confrontation
I see. "
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"It’s her opinion and she was talking to her husband.
No one else’s business.
Not very nice though.
They said it loud enough to be heard by others in a train, so they chose to make it other people’s ‘business’.
Bit of an assumption? How do you know they chose?"
Fair point, they could be in the 30% of adults who are hearing impaired. However, experience suggests that a certain type of person likes to have a dig usually in the expectation of agreement from those around them. This wasn’t the kind of opinion you verbalise in public if you don’t want others to hear. |
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Sometimes people who make that sort of comment loud enough for people to hear aren't expecting a reaction.
In this case it's a TokTok video so the original remark isn't recorded just the young woman's reaction to it. We don't know anything about the woman who said it, just that she's a 'pensioner'. Is she cognitively impaired, just a nasty person or was the whole thing set up for dramatic effect? We shall never know |
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"A young lady gets on a train for a night out in a mini skirt and top. As she walks by a pensioner couple, the wife remarks 'no wonder they get r**ed'
Absolutely stupid comment to make but is it just an age thing or a no filter thing?
I know my mum tutted at some of the outfits Taylor Swift wore at her recent Dublin gigs but don't think she would make a comment like that.
It’s her opinion and she was talking to her husband.
No one else’s business.
Not very nice though.
By saying it loud enough for everyone else to hear she made it everyone else's business. If she didn't want confronting she should have kept her nasty comments to herself.
She might have said it too loud due the them both being hard of hearing. A conversation between two people isn’t anyone else’s business even if they’re over heard.
She might have been a prissy bitch deliberately saying it to get her attention.
We don’t know."
No we don't know why she said it but what we do know is she should have kept her mouth shut and her nasty thoughts to herself.
There is no reason to say enything like that about anyone to anyone.
Hopefully she was confronted on her bitchiness and might think twice next time. |
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Does seem to happen as some people get old they become very opinionated and judgemental about younger generations, and also lose the filter.
Also if they’re not regularly watching the news on tiktok they probably won’t know what’s offensive these days and which words have been banned |
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