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"Don't most law abiding people respect the police ? Sure there’s some bad ones but that’s just a reflection of society, overall they have an impossible job to do these days , criminals are better resourced & defended, but they still choose to risk thier life’s trying to protect us " I’m law abiding and absolutely detest them due to several bad experiences | |||
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"Don't most law abiding people respect the police ? Sure there’s some bad ones but that’s just a reflection of society, overall they have an impossible job to do these days , criminals are better resourced & defended, but they still choose to risk thier life’s trying to protect us I’m law abiding and absolutely detest them due to several bad experiences " the. We see videos of kids in airports that are face down detained getting kicks to the face and stomps to the head and wonder why they get no repect | |||
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"Don't most law abiding people respect the police ? Sure there’s some bad ones but that’s just a reflection of society, overall they have an impossible job to do these days , criminals are better resourced & defended, but they still choose to risk thier life’s trying to protect us I’m law abiding and absolutely detest them due to several bad experiences the. We see videos of kids in airports that are face down detained getting kicks to the face and stomps to the head and wonder why they get no repect " Are these the same kids who broke the WPCs nose? | |||
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"One of the issues with the Police giving people a telling off, is that when they decide to actually apply the law in a different case, they may then be accused of discrimination. Why give a warning one time and a sanction another? The way the current police get around that is to issue guidelines for when to warn and when to prosecute. So in fact, even more rules to follow rather than a kindly old cop who knows that a warning will suffice. And what already happens is that people complain that they are being treated unfairly because they didn't get a warning, but they know other people that did. Sounds like a thankless job to me. Gbat " This is an issue for sure. And it's a liability culture that extends across society not just policing. It's actually made us a far less productive society, nobody wants to take responsibility for anything and our ingenuity is focused on that task rather than actually getting things done effectively and efficiently. | |||
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"Don't most law abiding people respect the police ? Sure there’s some bad ones but that’s just a reflection of society, overall they have an impossible job to do these days , criminals are better resourced & defended, but they still choose to risk thier life’s trying to protect us I’m law abiding and absolutely detest them due to several bad experiences the. We see videos of kids in airports that are face down detained getting kicks to the face and stomps to the head and wonder why they get no repect " They are notorious for shit like that whenever they can get away with it, I acknowledge there are some decent ones and I have had pleasant interactions with a few but have also come across many utter bastard coppers and seen and experienced enough to never trust or like them ever again | |||
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"The cops are so undervalued and shit upon they should all say, fuck it, and resign. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. " Perhaps if they concentrated on real crime and left normal people alone they would be appreciated more? Just last a little utter wanker of a copper took my work van off me and slapped a prohibition order on it over a tyre that had worn on the inside so I didn’t see it as the other 90% of the tyre surface was fine, we were left stranded 20 miles from home and since I needed afresh mot to release the prohibition order and my local garage couldn’t mot it for 3 weeks I had no option but to purchase another van, that whole week by time paid the storage fee, having it recovered from the storage, wages for going fuck all and another van cost me about 7 grand. Just a single father going out to make a living to feed his family 7 grand out of pocket so some pathetic little prick who wouldn’t say boo to a mouse out of his u inform can assert his bit authority and they wonder why every fucker hates the cunts This was the last of pretty extensive list of bad experiences/what I’ve witnessed with them | |||
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"The cops are so undervalued and shit upon they should all say, fuck it, and resign. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Perhaps if they concentrated on real crime and left normal people alone they would be appreciated more? Just last a little utter wanker of a copper took my work van off me and slapped a prohibition order on it over a tyre that had worn on the inside so I didn’t see it as the other 90% of the tyre surface was fine, we were left stranded 20 miles from home and since I needed afresh mot to release the prohibition order and my local garage couldn’t mot it for 3 weeks I had no option but to purchase another van, that whole week by time paid the storage fee, having it recovered from the storage, wages for going fuck all and another van cost me about 7 grand. Just a single father going out to make a living to feed his family 7 grand out of pocket so some pathetic little prick who wouldn’t say boo to a mouse out of his u inform can assert his bit authority and they wonder why every fucker hates the cunts This was the last of pretty extensive list of bad experiences/what I’ve witnessed with them " Just last year that should say at the start | |||
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"The cops are so undervalued and shit upon they should all say, fuck it, and resign. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Perhaps if they concentrated on real crime and left normal people alone they would be appreciated more? Just last a little utter wanker of a copper took my work van off me and slapped a prohibition order on it over a tyre that had worn on the inside so I didn’t see it as the other 90% of the tyre surface was fine, we were left stranded 20 miles from home and since I needed afresh mot to release the prohibition order and my local garage couldn’t mot it for 3 weeks I had no option but to purchase another van, that whole week by time paid the storage fee, having it recovered from the storage, wages for going fuck all and another van cost me about 7 grand. Just a single father going out to make a living to feed his family 7 grand out of pocket so some pathetic little prick who wouldn’t say boo to a mouse out of his u inform can assert his bit authority and they wonder why every fucker hates the cunts This was the last of pretty extensive list of bad experiences/what I’ve witnessed with them " Why did the cop stop you ? | |||
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"The cops are so undervalued and shit upon they should all say, fuck it, and resign. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Perhaps if they concentrated on real crime and left normal people alone they would be appreciated more? Just last a little utter wanker of a copper took my work van off me and slapped a prohibition order on it over a tyre that had worn on the inside so I didn’t see it as the other 90% of the tyre surface was fine, we were left stranded 20 miles from home and since I needed afresh mot to release the prohibition order and my local garage couldn’t mot it for 3 weeks I had no option but to purchase another van, that whole week by time paid the storage fee, having it recovered from the storage, wages for going fuck all and another van cost me about 7 grand. Just a single father going out to make a living to feed his family 7 grand out of pocket so some pathetic little prick who wouldn’t say boo to a mouse out of his u inform can assert his bit authority and they wonder why every fucker hates the cunts This was the last of pretty extensive list of bad experiences/what I’ve witnessed with them " And that tyre cold have failed causing injury to out or another road user ? | |||
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"The cops are so undervalued and shit upon they should all say, fuck it, and resign. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Perhaps if they concentrated on real crime and left normal people alone they would be appreciated more? Just last a little utter wanker of a copper took my work van off me and slapped a prohibition order on it over a tyre that had worn on the inside so I didn’t see it as the other 90% of the tyre surface was fine, we were left stranded 20 miles from home and since I needed afresh mot to release the prohibition order and my local garage couldn’t mot it for 3 weeks I had no option but to purchase another van, that whole week by time paid the storage fee, having it recovered from the storage, wages for going fuck all and another van cost me about 7 grand. Just a single father going out to make a living to feed his family 7 grand out of pocket so some pathetic little prick who wouldn’t say boo to a mouse out of his u inform can assert his bit authority and they wonder why every fucker hates the cunts This was the last of pretty extensive list of bad experiences/what I’ve witnessed with them Why did the cop stop you ?" Passed a checkpoint where they were working with dvla doing random checks Seemingly targeting vans and lorries | |||
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"The cops are so undervalued and shit upon they should all say, fuck it, and resign. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Perhaps if they concentrated on real crime and left normal people alone they would be appreciated more? Just last a little utter wanker of a copper took my work van off me and slapped a prohibition order on it over a tyre that had worn on the inside so I didn’t see it as the other 90% of the tyre surface was fine, we were left stranded 20 miles from home and since I needed afresh mot to release the prohibition order and my local garage couldn’t mot it for 3 weeks I had no option but to purchase another van, that whole week by time paid the storage fee, having it recovered from the storage, wages for going fuck all and another van cost me about 7 grand. Just a single father going out to make a living to feed his family 7 grand out of pocket so some pathetic little prick who wouldn’t say boo to a mouse out of his u inform can assert his bit authority and they wonder why every fucker hates the cunts This was the last of pretty extensive list of bad experiences/what I’ve witnessed with them And that tyre cold have failed causing injury to out or another road user ?" Yes true and I was only aware of it when he found it I’d happily have took it off there and got a new one fitted my point was he didn’t have to be such a dick about it | |||
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"The cops are so undervalued and shit upon they should all say, fuck it, and resign. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Perhaps if they concentrated on real crime and left normal people alone they would be appreciated more? Just last a little utter wanker of a copper took my work van off me and slapped a prohibition order on it over a tyre that had worn on the inside so I didn’t see it as the other 90% of the tyre surface was fine, we were left stranded 20 miles from home and since I needed afresh mot to release the prohibition order and my local garage couldn’t mot it for 3 weeks I had no option but to purchase another van, that whole week by time paid the storage fee, having it recovered from the storage, wages for going fuck all and another van cost me about 7 grand. Just a single father going out to make a living to feed his family 7 grand out of pocket so some pathetic little prick who wouldn’t say boo to a mouse out of his u inform can assert his bit authority and they wonder why every fucker hates the cunts This was the last of pretty extensive list of bad experiences/what I’ve witnessed with them Why did the cop stop you ? Passed a checkpoint where they were working with dvla doing random checks Seemingly targeting vans and lorries" You need to check out tyres so no sympathy here whatsoever. You drive a clapped out vehicle and blame the plod when you re caught | |||
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"The cops are so undervalued and shit upon they should all say, fuck it, and resign. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Perhaps if they concentrated on real crime and left normal people alone they would be appreciated more? Just last a little utter wanker of a copper took my work van off me and slapped a prohibition order on it over a tyre that had worn on the inside so I didn’t see it as the other 90% of the tyre surface was fine, we were left stranded 20 miles from home and since I needed afresh mot to release the prohibition order and my local garage couldn’t mot it for 3 weeks I had no option but to purchase another van, that whole week by time paid the storage fee, having it recovered from the storage, wages for going fuck all and another van cost me about 7 grand. Just a single father going out to make a living to feed his family 7 grand out of pocket so some pathetic little prick who wouldn’t say boo to a mouse out of his u inform can assert his bit authority and they wonder why every fucker hates the cunts This was the last of pretty extensive list of bad experiences/what I’ve witnessed with them And that tyre cold have failed causing injury to out or another road user ? Yes true and I was only aware of it when he found it I’d happily have took it off there and got a new one fitted my point was he didn’t have to be such a dick about it " The police took a dangerous vehicle off the road, aka your vehicle, they did a great job. No need to be a dick about it. | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure." It’s not really breaking the law internationally is it, there was plenty other ways he could have dealt with it other than being so extreme and causing me so much financial outlay, as I said it was one of many bad experiences with them where I’d did fuck all wrong | |||
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"The cops are so undervalued and shit upon they should all say, fuck it, and resign. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Perhaps if they concentrated on real crime and left normal people alone they would be appreciated more? Just last a little utter wanker of a copper took my work van off me and slapped a prohibition order on it over a tyre that had worn on the inside so I didn’t see it as the other 90% of the tyre surface was fine, we were left stranded 20 miles from home and since I needed afresh mot to release the prohibition order and my local garage couldn’t mot it for 3 weeks I had no option but to purchase another van, that whole week by time paid the storage fee, having it recovered from the storage, wages for going fuck all and another van cost me about 7 grand. Just a single father going out to make a living to feed his family 7 grand out of pocket so some pathetic little prick who wouldn’t say boo to a mouse out of his u inform can assert his bit authority and they wonder why every fucker hates the cunts This was the last of pretty extensive list of bad experiences/what I’ve witnessed with them Why did the cop stop you ? Passed a checkpoint where they were working with dvla doing random checks Seemingly targeting vans and lorries You need to check out tyres so no sympathy here whatsoever. You drive a clapped out vehicle and blame the plod when you re caught " So any vehicle with a worn tyre is clapped out? If you buy a brand new car when the Tyres wear do you have to scrap it? | |||
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"Yes it is breaking the law. It is down to you to make sure your van is road worthy. It wasn't and you got caught. The whole thing is down to you no one else. " So costing a man just working to feed his kids 7 grand when he could have just made me call a mobile tyre fitter and fined me and I could carry on earning a living is fair? | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure. It’s not really breaking the law internationally is it, there was plenty other ways he could have dealt with it other than being so extreme and causing me so much financial outlay, as I said it was one of many bad experiences with them where I’d did fuck all wrong " Your wasting your time looking for sympathy here mate, for some on here a police person can do no wrong. | |||
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"So what you are unhappy about is the fact having been caught by the authorities checking for vans being driven illegally you didn't like the result. You wanted a lesser option. Why should you have that? I suspect in that situation that was what they were instructed to do. " Most instances it’s just a fine and ordered to change it, I’ve known plenty people get that, I’d happily have accepted that, I bet if you were ever in the same situation and the police took the nuclear option rather than the normal one you’d be unhappy too | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure. It’s not really breaking the law internationally is it, there was plenty other ways he could have dealt with it other than being so extreme and causing me so much financial outlay, as I said it was one of many bad experiences with them where I’d did fuck all wrong Your wasting your time looking for sympathy here mate, for some on here a police person can do no wrong. " Seems that way mate, maybe they will go their whole lives never being unlucky to experience the negative side of police. I could list many thinks they have done to me or people I know including setting the police dog onto a mentally disabled man that was already handcuffed face own on the floor but that will all be justified somehow in their warped fairly tale land minds | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure. It’s not really breaking the law internationally is it, there was plenty other ways he could have dealt with it other than being so extreme and causing me so much financial outlay, as I said it was one of many bad experiences with them where I’d did fuck all wrong Your wasting your time looking for sympathy here mate, for some on here a police person can do no wrong. " See there's one of the problems right there. Sympathy for having a dangerous vehicle on the road. Why sympathy. What happens when that vehicle loses grip or can't stop in time and causes harm to others?who gets sympathy then? Why should we have to accept people who choose not to keep vehicles in a safe and legal condition and choose to drive them? | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure. It’s not really breaking the law internationally is it, there was plenty other ways he could have dealt with it other than being so extreme and causing me so much financial outlay, as I said it was one of many bad experiences with them where I’d did fuck all wrong Your wasting your time looking for sympathy here mate, for some on here a police person can do no wrong. See there's one of the problems right there. Sympathy for having a dangerous vehicle on the road. Why sympathy. What happens when that vehicle loses grip or can't stop in time and causes harm to others?who gets sympathy then? Why should we have to accept people who choose not to keep vehicles in a safe and legal condition and choose to drive them? " Just How likely is a tyre where 90% plus of tread is brand new on a vehicle with 6 wheels? The point wasn’t that I should have been let off just the nuclear option used when not letting the vehicle move till it was changed would achieve the exact same result. Nobody’s looking for sympathy it was just listing the latest of many reasons why I and many others despise them | |||
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"You got caught, you didn't like it now you despise them. Yeah we get it." I said it was one of many incidents you just choose to ignore that and focus on the one described | |||
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"That is the only one you talked about. So you have had many run ins with the police?" Unfortunately Yes | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure." road traffic act NOT LAW | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure. It’s not really breaking the law internationally is it, there was plenty other ways he could have dealt with it other than being so extreme and causing me so much financial outlay, as I said it was one of many bad experiences with them where I’d did fuck all wrong Your wasting your time looking for sympathy here mate, for some on here a police person can do no wrong. See there's one of the problems right there. Sympathy for having a dangerous vehicle on the road. Why sympathy. What happens when that vehicle loses grip or can't stop in time and causes harm to others?who gets sympathy then? Why should we have to accept people who choose not to keep vehicles in a safe and legal condition and choose to drive them? " If you read the description of what the defect was, one tyre worn on the inside not easily visible. I bet half the people on here one time or another have had this and not noticed until a mot check or visit to a garage. The gov.uk says the following When the police can seize your vehicle The police can seize a vehicle if they think it’s being used in a way that causes alarm, harassment or distress, for example careless or inconsiderate driving. They can also seize a vehicle if they think it’s: being driven by someone who does not have a proper licence or insurance dangerously, illegally or obstructively parked broken-down or abandoned If your vehicle is seized there’s a ‘release fee’ of up to £200 plus a storage fee of £20 for every day or part day. Faults with your vehicle If your vehicle has something wrong with it, for example a broken brake light, the police may give you a ‘vehicle defect rectification notice’. You’ll need to get your vehicle fixed and provide proof that it’s been fixed, for example a receipt for the work from a mechanic. You have 14 days from the date of the notice to show the proof to the police. The fault could have clearly been dealt with the latter. I am taking the posters story at face value, because it seems overkill for the offence. | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure.road traffic act NOT LAW" That is law. | |||
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"Well theft would be a civil matter so see you in small claims darling 😘" So you think theft is a civil claims issue? You know nothing about the law. | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure. It’s not really breaking the law internationally is it, there was plenty other ways he could have dealt with it other than being so extreme and causing me so much financial outlay, as I said it was one of many bad experiences with them where I’d did fuck all wrong Your wasting your time looking for sympathy here mate, for some on here a police person can do no wrong. See there's one of the problems right there. Sympathy for having a dangerous vehicle on the road. Why sympathy. What happens when that vehicle loses grip or can't stop in time and causes harm to others?who gets sympathy then? Why should we have to accept people who choose not to keep vehicles in a safe and legal condition and choose to drive them? If you read the description of what the defect was, one tyre worn on the inside not easily visible. I bet half the people on here one time or another have had this and not noticed until a mot check or visit to a garage. The gov.uk says the following When the police can seize your vehicle The police can seize a vehicle if they think it’s being used in a way that causes alarm, harassment or distress, for example careless or inconsiderate driving. They can also seize a vehicle if they think it’s: being driven by someone who does not have a proper licence or insurance dangerously, illegally or obstructively parked broken-down or abandoned If your vehicle is seized there’s a ‘release fee’ of up to £200 plus a storage fee of £20 for every day or part day. Faults with your vehicle If your vehicle has something wrong with it, for example a broken brake light, the police may give you a ‘vehicle defect rectification notice’. You’ll need to get your vehicle fixed and provide proof that it’s been fixed, for example a receipt for the work from a mechanic. You have 14 days from the date of the notice to show the proof to the police. The fault could have clearly been dealt with the latter. I am taking the posters story at face value, because it seems overkill for the offence. " Exactly mate the rest of the tyre was brand new as wasn’t very old ask anyone using a transit tipper daily how long they get out of the front tyres it’s lucky if it’s a year as they usually wear on the outside due to the body roll it was perfect outside so I mistakenly assumed it was ok as they never wear anywhere else they don’t get a chance too as the outsides wear so fast As to why they uplift it I can only assume it was due to the prohibition order making it illegal to drive or even tow till freshly mot so I guess that why they took it | |||
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"And as the tyre goes i check my work pick up every monday morning lights tyres oil ect, 3 months a go did the usual checks all good 1 week of towing a digger on a trailer around 150 mile a day all good, follwing monday inside walls bald as a coot, turns out the extra weight on the rear changes the front supspension geometry which wore the insides off nearly down to the cords at only probs 6 months old so i do agree that tyres need to be safe but how many of you get under your cars weekly and check the pressures take the wheels off to check inside tyre walls for damage i very much doubt it " Exactly mate had the wear been obvious I would have changed it | |||
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"Hehe acts arent LAW theres a difference between laws and acts " Our laws are defined by Acts of Parliament. Acts are, quite literally, the law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_Parliament_(United_Kingdom) | |||
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"And as the tyre goes i check my work pick up every monday morning lights tyres oil ect, 3 months a go did the usual checks all good 1 week of towing a digger on a trailer around 150 mile a day all good, follwing monday inside walls bald as a coot, turns out the extra weight on the rear changes the front supspension geometry which wore the insides off nearly down to the cords at only probs 6 months old so i do agree that tyres need to be safe but how many of you get under your cars weekly and check the pressures take the wheels off to check inside tyre walls for damage i very much doubt it Exactly mate had the wear been obvious I would have changed it " You were unlucky you got caught in a DVLA stop. But the police did nothing wrong. | |||
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"The cops are so undervalued and shit upon they should all say, fuck it, and resign. The lunatics have taken over the asylum. Perhaps if they concentrated on real crime and left normal people alone they would be appreciated more? Just last a little utter wanker of a copper took my work van off me and slapped a prohibition order on it over a tyre that had worn on the inside so I didn’t see it as the other 90% of the tyre surface was fine, we were left stranded 20 miles from home and since I needed afresh mot to release the prohibition order and my local garage couldn’t mot it for 3 weeks I had no option but to purchase another van, that whole week by time paid the storage fee, having it recovered from the storage, wages for going fuck all and another van cost me about 7 grand. Just a single father going out to make a living to feed his family 7 grand out of pocket so some pathetic little prick who wouldn’t say boo to a mouse out of his u inform can assert his bit authority and they wonder why every fucker hates the cunts This was the last of pretty extensive list of bad experiences/what I’ve witnessed with them Why did the cop stop you ? Passed a checkpoint where they were working with dvla doing random checks Seemingly targeting vans and lorries You need to check out tyres so no sympathy here whatsoever. You drive a clapped out vehicle and blame the plod when you re caught So any vehicle with a worn tyre is clapped out? If you buy a brand new car when the Tyres wear do you have to scrap it?" No. You buy a new tyre | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure. It’s not really breaking the law internationally is it, there was plenty other ways he could have dealt with it other than being so extreme and causing me so much financial outlay, as I said it was one of many bad experiences with them where I’d did fuck all wrong Your wasting your time looking for sympathy here mate, for some on here a police person can do no wrong. See there's one of the problems right there. Sympathy for having a dangerous vehicle on the road. Why sympathy. What happens when that vehicle loses grip or can't stop in time and causes harm to others?who gets sympathy then? Why should we have to accept people who choose not to keep vehicles in a safe and legal condition and choose to drive them? If you read the description of what the defect was, one tyre worn on the inside not easily visible. I bet half the people on here one time or another have had this and not noticed until a mot check or visit to a garage. The gov.uk says the following When the police can seize your vehicle The police can seize a vehicle if they think it’s being used in a way that causes alarm, harassment or distress, for example careless or inconsiderate driving. They can also seize a vehicle if they think it’s: being driven by someone who does not have a proper licence or insurance dangerously, illegally or obstructively parked broken-down or abandoned If your vehicle is seized there’s a ‘release fee’ of up to £200 plus a storage fee of £20 for every day or part day. Faults with your vehicle If your vehicle has something wrong with it, for example a broken brake light, the police may give you a ‘vehicle defect rectification notice’. You’ll need to get your vehicle fixed and provide proof that it’s been fixed, for example a receipt for the work from a mechanic. You have 14 days from the date of the notice to show the proof to the police. The fault could have clearly been dealt with the latter. I am taking the posters story at face value, because it seems overkill for the offence. Exactly mate the rest of the tyre was brand new as wasn’t very old ask anyone using a transit tipper daily how long they get out of the front tyres it’s lucky if it’s a year as they usually wear on the outside due to the body roll it was perfect outside so I mistakenly assumed it was ok as they never wear anywhere else they don’t get a chance too as the outsides wear so fast As to why they uplift it I can only assume it was due to the prohibition order making it illegal to drive or even tow till freshly mot so I guess that why they took it " | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure. It’s not really breaking the law internationally is it, there was plenty other ways he could have dealt with it other than being so extreme and causing me so much financial outlay, as I said it was one of many bad experiences with them where I’d did fuck all wrong Your wasting your time looking for sympathy here mate, for some on here a police person can do no wrong. See there's one of the problems right there. Sympathy for having a dangerous vehicle on the road. Why sympathy. What happens when that vehicle loses grip or can't stop in time and causes harm to others?who gets sympathy then? Why should we have to accept people who choose not to keep vehicles in a safe and legal condition and choose to drive them? If you read the description of what the defect was, one tyre worn on the inside not easily visible. I bet half the people on here one time or another have had this and not noticed until a mot check or visit to a garage. The gov.uk says the following When the police can seize your vehicle The police can seize a vehicle if they think it’s being used in a way that causes alarm, harassment or distress, for example careless or inconsiderate driving. They can also seize a vehicle if they think it’s: being driven by someone who does not have a proper licence or insurance dangerously, illegally or obstructively parked broken-down or abandoned If your vehicle is seized there’s a ‘release fee’ of up to £200 plus a storage fee of £20 for every day or part day. Faults with your vehicle If your vehicle has something wrong with it, for example a broken brake light, the police may give you a ‘vehicle defect rectification notice’. You’ll need to get your vehicle fixed and provide proof that it’s been fixed, for example a receipt for the work from a mechanic. You have 14 days from the date of the notice to show the proof to the police. The fault could have clearly been dealt with the latter. I am taking the posters story at face value, because it seems overkill for the offence. Exactly mate the rest of the tyre was brand new as wasn’t very old ask anyone using a transit tipper daily how long they get out of the front tyres it’s lucky if it’s a year as they usually wear on the outside due to the body roll it was perfect outside so I mistakenly assumed it was ok as they never wear anywhere else they don’t get a chance too as the outsides wear so fast As to why they uplift it I can only assume it was due to the prohibition order making it illegal to drive or even tow till freshly mot so I guess that why they took it " So you knew your tyres were out quickly and ignored it | |||
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"And as the tyre goes i check my work pick up every monday morning lights tyres oil ect, 3 months a go did the usual checks all good 1 week of towing a digger on a trailer around 150 mile a day all good, follwing monday inside walls bald as a coot, turns out the extra weight on the rear changes the front supspension geometry which wore the insides off nearly down to the cords at only probs 6 months old so i do agree that tyres need to be safe but how many of you get under your cars weekly and check the pressures take the wheels off to check inside tyre walls for damage i very much doubt it Exactly mate had the wear been obvious I would have changed it You were unlucky you got caught in a DVLA stop. But the police did nothing wrong." Correct they technically did not but the police office could have dealt with it in a less extreme way that would have caused the exact same outcome of the van being made safe without causing so much disruption to my finances and work schedule | |||
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"So you broke the law. The police acted within the law and now you don't like them. Go figure. It’s not really breaking the law internationally is it, there was plenty other ways he could have dealt with it other than being so extreme and causing me so much financial outlay, as I said it was one of many bad experiences with them where I’d did fuck all wrong Your wasting your time looking for sympathy here mate, for some on here a police person can do no wrong. See there's one of the problems right there. Sympathy for having a dangerous vehicle on the road. Why sympathy. What happens when that vehicle loses grip or can't stop in time and causes harm to others?who gets sympathy then? Why should we have to accept people who choose not to keep vehicles in a safe and legal condition and choose to drive them? If you read the description of what the defect was, one tyre worn on the inside not easily visible. I bet half the people on here one time or another have had this and not noticed until a mot check or visit to a garage. The gov.uk says the following When the police can seize your vehicle The police can seize a vehicle if they think it’s being used in a way that causes alarm, harassment or distress, for example careless or inconsiderate driving. They can also seize a vehicle if they think it’s: being driven by someone who does not have a proper licence or insurance dangerously, illegally or obstructively parked broken-down or abandoned If your vehicle is seized there’s a ‘release fee’ of up to £200 plus a storage fee of £20 for every day or part day. Faults with your vehicle If your vehicle has something wrong with it, for example a broken brake light, the police may give you a ‘vehicle defect rectification notice’. You’ll need to get your vehicle fixed and provide proof that it’s been fixed, for example a receipt for the work from a mechanic. You have 14 days from the date of the notice to show the proof to the police. The fault could have clearly been dealt with the latter. I am taking the posters story at face value, because it seems overkill for the offence. Exactly mate the rest of the tyre was brand new as wasn’t very old ask anyone using a transit tipper daily how long they get out of the front tyres it’s lucky if it’s a year as they usually wear on the outside due to the body roll it was perfect outside so I mistakenly assumed it was ok as they never wear anywhere else they don’t get a chance too as the outsides wear so fast As to why they uplift it I can only assume it was due to the prohibition order making it illegal to drive or even tow till freshly mot so I guess that why they took it So you knew your tyres were out quickly and ignored it" Haha I’m not taking the bait any more obvious this is a troll job so yes Thomas that’s correct that’s what I said | |||
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"And as the tyre goes i check my work pick up every monday morning lights tyres oil ect, 3 months a go did the usual checks all good 1 week of towing a digger on a trailer around 150 mile a day all good, follwing monday inside walls bald as a coot, turns out the extra weight on the rear changes the front supspension geometry which wore the insides off nearly down to the cords at only probs 6 months old so i do agree that tyres need to be safe but how many of you get under your cars weekly and check the pressures take the wheels off to check inside tyre walls for damage i very much doubt it Exactly mate had the wear been obvious I would have changed it You were unlucky you got caught in a DVLA stop. But the police did nothing wrong. Correct they technically did not but the police office could have dealt with it in a less extreme way that would have caused the exact same outcome of the van being made safe without causing so much disruption to my finances and work schedule" You mentioned other brushes with the law.. a serial offender ? | |||
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"So this is all about he fact you deserved a lesser punishment. But you were caught in a DVLA stop. The police likely had no choice." Not a lesser punishment just the same one everyone else gets | |||
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"So this is all about he fact you deserved a lesser punishment. But you were caught in a DVLA stop. The police likely had no choice. Not a lesser punishment just the same one everyone else gets " Yep. A dangerous ehicle seized and taken off the road. The police fault not yours | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that." How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? " Sounds like a death trap. Glad it's off the road | |||
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"I have known of many. That police have the power to do that." No. He was hard done by. How dare the police take a dangerous vehicle off the road | |||
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"I have known of many. That police have the power to do that." Haha ok I bet you do, everyone else I’ve ever known was sent on their way some didn’t even get a fine just had to return with proof the defective tyre was fixed | |||
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"I have known of many. That police have the power to do that. Haha ok I bet you do, everyone else I’ve ever known was sent on their way some didn’t even get a fine just had to return with proof the defective tyre was fixed " You know people who drive defective vehicles.. ? Says it all.. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 27/07/24 22:33:49]" Did you get lippy or show attitude. Can sometimes be a issue of not liking their authority questioned..? | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 27/07/24 22:33:49]Did you get lippy or show attitude. Can sometimes be a issue of not liking their authority questioned..?" The law does apply to him | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? " You tend to hear it happening to those people who have a history of problems staying on the right side of the law. You admit to having multiple interactions with the law which suggest either you are the most unlucky person in the world (and you probably have a very good case for police harassment) or you are not telling the whole story here. Personally I am going for the latter option. | |||
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"But fact remains you committed the offence. You are just unhappy about your punishment. But the police did nothing wrong. " I’ve agreed several times that they didn’t do anything wrong just that there was no need to make such an example id have no issue if every single person stopped for tyre got their vehicle seized and a prohibition order slapped on it but barely any do And I’ve already stated several times it was simply the latest example of why I dislike them I used as it’s most recent but you twist it so my only issue with the police is this incident. It may be hard to believe that they aren’t perfect maybe one day you will see for yourself maybe and hopefully not | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 27/07/24 22:33:49]Did you get lippy or show attitude. Can sometimes be an issue of not liking their authority questioned..?" No I’m very polite and show everyone the uttermost respect unless they are impolite, the officer was polite and respectful during the entire exchange as was I. I despise bad manners and always make a point to be polite and well mannered till someone doesn't deserve it | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 27/07/24 22:33:49]Did you get lippy or show attitude. Can sometimes be an issue of not liking their authority questioned..? Tell us about your other brushes with the law ? No I’m very polite and show everyone the uttermost respect unless they are impolite, the officer was polite and respectful during the entire exchange as was I. I despise bad manners and always make a point to be polite and well mannered till someone doesn't deserve it " | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? You tend to hear it happening to those people who have a history of problems staying on the right side of the law. You admit to having multiple interactions with the law which suggest either you are the most unlucky person in the world (and you probably have a very good case for police harassment) or you are not telling the whole story here. Personally I am going for the latter option." And you base that judgement on?? Even if your assumption was true I already stated was 20 mile from home in the area of a different police force so wouldn’t be “known” to the officers | |||
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"But fact remains you committed the offence. You are just unhappy about your punishment. But the police did nothing wrong. I’ve agreed several times that they didn’t do anything wrong just that there was no need to make such an example id have no issue if every single person stopped for tyre got their vehicle seized and a prohibition order slapped on it but barely any do And I’ve already stated several times it was simply the latest example of why I dislike them I used as it’s most recent but you twist it so my only issue with the police is this incident. It may be hard to believe that they aren’t perfect maybe one day you will see for yourself maybe and hopefully not " That is fine. But you'll find most people were happy they did their job. | |||
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"[Removed by poster at 27/07/24 22:33:49]Did you get lippy or show attitude. Can sometimes be an issue of not liking their authority questioned..? No I’m very polite and show everyone the uttermost respect unless they are impolite, the officer was polite and respectful during the entire exchange as was I. I despise bad manners and always make a point to be polite and well mannered till someone doesn't deserve it " Tell us about your other brushes with the law ? Pretty pointless since I’ve already been called a liar and a rogue by several people here, why would I just to be told they are false and I’m leaving stuff out and I must have been at fault somehow | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? " Let's be honest here. It wasn't just because it was a part worn tyre. The MOT was also out on it. Even if you'd changed the tyre at the roadside he couldn't legally let you drive it away. So you can get the benefit of the doubt for not spotting the inner rim of the tyre but you absolutely knew the MOT was gone. | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? You tend to hear it happening to those people who have a history of problems staying on the right side of the law. You admit to having multiple interactions with the law which suggest either you are the most unlucky person in the world (and you probably have a very good case for police harassment) or you are not telling the whole story here. Personally I am going for the latter option. And you base that judgement on?? Even if your assumption was true I already stated was 20 mile from home in the area of a different police force so wouldn’t be “known” to the officers " They have radios and presumably did a check on you | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? Let's be honest here. It wasn't just because it was a part worn tyre. The MOT was also out on it. Even if you'd changed the tyre at the roadside he couldn't legally let you drive it away. So you can get the benefit of the doubt for not spotting the inner rim of the tyre but you absolutely knew the MOT was gone. " No it had several months mot left | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? You tend to hear it happening to those people who have a history of problems staying on the right side of the law. You admit to having multiple interactions with the law which suggest either you are the most unlucky person in the world (and you probably have a very good case for police harassment) or you are not telling the whole story here. Personally I am going for the latter option. And you base that judgement on?? Even if your assumption was true I already stated was 20 mile from home in the area of a different police force so wouldn’t be “known” to the officers " That proves the point doesn’t it? If you only had issues with your local police force then it would suggest you were being victimised. The fact that police who, by your own admission don’t know you, decided that your vehicle was in such a state that it needed to be impounded suggests that there is another issue. I can easily imagine that you are not aware of what you are doing that is causing issues but I don’t believe in bad luck and certainly not repeated bad luck. | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? You tend to hear it happening to those people who have a history of problems staying on the right side of the law. You admit to having multiple interactions with the law which suggest either you are the most unlucky person in the world (and you probably have a very good case for police harassment) or you are not telling the whole story here. Personally I am going for the latter option. And you base that judgement on?? Even if your assumption was true I already stated was 20 mile from home in the area of a different police force so wouldn’t be “known” to the officers That proves the point doesn’t it? If you only had issues with your local police force then it would suggest you were being victimised. The fact that police who, by your own admission don’t know you, decided that your vehicle was in such a state that it needed to be impounded suggests that there is another issue. I can easily imagine that you are not aware of what you are doing that is causing issues but I don’t believe in bad luck and certainly not repeated bad luck. " As much as you like to believe that no, my last interaction with the police was being arrested for mistaken identity in netto in front of my then partner and 18 month old daughter and the entire shop, I got as far as the police car in the car park before being released after my partner demanded to see the evidence that I had committed the alleged crime of stealing 2 bottles of cider and when the manger showed her he held his face in his hands when he realised he had identified the wrong person. The two female police offers asked if I wanted to take it higher i declined even though they refused to accept my side of the story as we stood with the manager and they hadn’t even seen the cctv I was offered a 5 quid voucher by the manager told him to stick it. I’ve ran my business for 20 years small local business and the shame he and the police brought upon me that day was a disgrace | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? You tend to hear it happening to those people who have a history of problems staying on the right side of the law. You admit to having multiple interactions with the law which suggest either you are the most unlucky person in the world (and you probably have a very good case for police harassment) or you are not telling the whole story here. Personally I am going for the latter option. And you base that judgement on?? Even if your assumption was true I already stated was 20 mile from home in the area of a different police force so wouldn’t be “known” to the officers That proves the point doesn’t it? If you only had issues with your local police force then it would suggest you were being victimised. The fact that police who, by your own admission don’t know you, decided that your vehicle was in such a state that it needed to be impounded suggests that there is another issue. I can easily imagine that you are not aware of what you are doing that is causing issues but I don’t believe in bad luck and certainly not repeated bad luck. As much as you like to believe that no, my last interaction with the police was being arrested for mistaken identity in netto in front of my then partner and 18 month old daughter and the entire shop, I got as far as the police car in the car park before being released after my partner demanded to see the evidence that I had committed the alleged crime of stealing 2 bottles of cider and when the manger showed her he held his face in his hands when he realised he had identified the wrong person. The two female police offers asked if I wanted to take it higher i declined even though they refused to accept my side of the story as we stood with the manager and they hadn’t even seen the cctv I was offered a 5 quid voucher by the manager told him to stick it. I’ve ran my business for 20 years small local business and the shame he and the police brought upon me that day was a disgrace " In that case if you have just suffered a litany of bad luck and abuse I would suggest you crowd fund a police harrasment lawsuit, take them to the cleaners for all the issues you have had over the years and get your 7 grand back plus more. Happy days eh?  | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? You tend to hear it happening to those people who have a history of problems staying on the right side of the law. You admit to having multiple interactions with the law which suggest either you are the most unlucky person in the world (and you probably have a very good case for police harassment) or you are not telling the whole story here. Personally I am going for the latter option. And you base that judgement on?? Even if your assumption was true I already stated was 20 mile from home in the area of a different police force so wouldn’t be “known” to the officers That proves the point doesn’t it? If you only had issues with your local police force then it would suggest you were being victimised. The fact that police who, by your own admission don’t know you, decided that your vehicle was in such a state that it needed to be impounded suggests that there is another issue. I can easily imagine that you are not aware of what you are doing that is causing issues but I don’t believe in bad luck and certainly not repeated bad luck. As much as you like to believe that no, my last interaction with the police was being arrested for mistaken identity in netto in front of my then partner and 18 month old daughter and the entire shop, I got as far as the police car in the car park before being released after my partner demanded to see the evidence that I had committed the alleged crime of stealing 2 bottles of cider and when the manger showed her he held his face in his hands when he realised he had identified the wrong person. The two female police offers asked if I wanted to take it higher i declined even though they refused to accept my side of the story as we stood with the manager and they hadn’t even seen the cctv I was offered a 5 quid voucher by the manager told him to stick it. I’ve ran my business for 20 years small local business and the shame he and the police brought upon me that day was a disgrace In that case if you have just suffered a litany of bad luck and abuse I would suggest you crowd fund a police harrasment lawsuit, take them to the cleaners for all the issues you have had over the years and get your 7 grand back plus more. Happy days eh? "No need to be sarcastic, that was just one of several bad experiences was 13 year ago. This exactly why I said a few posts ago pointless mentioning them | |||
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"You just think everyone else gets that. How many people do you hear getting stopped with a worn tyre get their vehicle siezed and a prohibition order placed on it ? You tend to hear it happening to those people who have a history of problems staying on the right side of the law. You admit to having multiple interactions with the law which suggest either you are the most unlucky person in the world (and you probably have a very good case for police harassment) or you are not telling the whole story here. Personally I am going for the latter option. And you base that judgement on?? Even if your assumption was true I already stated was 20 mile from home in the area of a different police force so wouldn’t be “known” to the officers That proves the point doesn’t it? If you only had issues with your local police force then it would suggest you were being victimised. The fact that police who, by your own admission don’t know you, decided that your vehicle was in such a state that it needed to be impounded suggests that there is another issue. I can easily imagine that you are not aware of what you are doing that is causing issues but I don’t believe in bad luck and certainly not repeated bad luck. As much as you like to believe that no, my last interaction with the police was being arrested for mistaken identity in netto in front of my then partner and 18 month old daughter and the entire shop, I got as far as the police car in the car park before being released after my partner demanded to see the evidence that I had committed the alleged crime of stealing 2 bottles of cider and when the manger showed her he held his face in his hands when he realised he had identified the wrong person. The two female police offers asked if I wanted to take it higher i declined even though they refused to accept my side of the story as we stood with the manager and they hadn’t even seen the cctv I was offered a 5 quid voucher by the manager told him to stick it. I’ve ran my business for 20 years small local business and the shame he and the police brought upon me that day was a disgrace In that case if you have just suffered a litany of bad luck and abuse I would suggest you crowd fund a police harrasment lawsuit, take them to the cleaners for all the issues you have had over the years and get your 7 grand back plus more. Happy days eh?
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"Continue here, it was interesting seeing the replies. I was listening to someone talking how the police was respected in the 60s and 70s, where he said how one didnt dare to do anything wrong and if you did and the police told you of for it. He gave an example where he trimmed his motorcycle and the police cought him on the bike and said dont do that again, he said ok officer in a dampened respected voice and walked home with it and never did it again. You respected what they said, even the signs with a police holding his hand in a stop position in the parks and other places dont go here, you respected that. What is your view about it, can the police regain respect again? I think that they can, but there would be a lot of work to do in the mean time, also the police have a harder time nowadays with red tape and more paper work too, so cant do their job to the fullest too "Why do you think they can out of interest? | |||
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"New footage emerging of the Manchester police attack. Of course the policeman will feel the full weight of the law and rightly so. The context leading up is that one policeman was set upon with at least ten unanswered big punches and another policeman set upon in a similar fashion. Maybe it's understandable that th officer may have lost the plot so to speak. " While I have no sympathy at all for the men in getting violence in return for their violent behaviour. While also understanding the officer losing control in the circumstances and havinga degreeof sympathy. My main issue is if you or me responded to an attack on us in the same way. We would end up in prison for using excessive force. If me as someone who has no training handling and in remaining in control of violent situations. Also not being paid by the staye to do so. If I would be charged and punished for this, then it's only right that someone who is trained and paid should be too. | |||
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"Anyone seen the full video of the Manchester Airport police Brutality incident. Not the initial incident. May just change people's minds over what happened." Quite eye opening having actually seen the behaviour of the suspects. Absolutely despicable. When did people feel it was ok to attack police officers like that? | |||
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"A well known ex boxer has complained that this is another example of police brutality against Muslims. Did the cop know the religion?" Who knows but the copper did see two young males going beserk in an airport beating the shite out of three police offices, two of which were women resulting in one WPC getting a broken nose. Its said Police are too soft over here accused of running away in Leeds etc. But we need tougher police IMHO as there are no deterrents for the growing number of criminals and hooligans. Jails are full. Perhaps if the criminals were scared of the police, there'd be less crime committed. | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society." We will see. I can't decide if they were cowards or animals. Either way, the leach of a solicitor who's representing them. Needs some morals. Jus sayin. | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will see. I can't decide if they were cowards or animals. Either way, the leach of a solicitor who's representing them. Needs some morals. Jus sayin." What is there to see? | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society." We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. What is there to see? Go find the 'new' video as opposed to the edited one." I have seen it and I stand by what I said. If you think stamping on someone’s head when they are face down is acceptable you are a danger to society. | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags." And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head? | |||
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"A well known ex boxer has complained that this is another example of police brutality against Muslims. Did the cop know the religion? Who knows but the copper did see two young males going beserk in an airport beating the shite out of three police offices, two of which were women resulting in one WPC getting a broken nose. Its said Police are too soft over here accused of running away in Leeds etc. But we need tougher police IMHO as there are no deterrents for the growing number of criminals and hooligans. Jails are full. Perhaps if the criminals were scared of the police, there'd be less crime committed. " We definitely need more jails and tougher sentences, the amount of reoffending from early release is ridiculous | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head?" If once they stop you and you assault three police officers and break one of theirs noses then yes. | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head? If once they stop you and you assault three police officers and break one of theirs noses then yes." But who decides where that line is crossed and they’ve got free reign to do what they want? | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head?" The level of violence by the alleged complaintants, bear no semblance to speeding at 200mph on a motorway. They started the shit. They got panned. End of. Now they're trying to get money because they lost. Lower than a snakes belly imho. | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head? The level of violence by the alleged complaintants, bear no semblance to speeding at 200mph on a motorway. They started the shit. They got panned. End of. Now they're trying to get money because they lost. Lower than a snakes belly imho." I would personally hang all nonces but I wouldn’t agree with stamping on their heads before they’ve been to trial. That’s how our legal system works. | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head? If once they stop you and you assault three police officers and break one of theirs noses then yes. But who decides where that line is crossed and they’ve got free reign to do what they want?" Who decides. The person who decides to assault the police decides. You attack the police then expect being punched back. It is very easy. We don't reward the wrongdoers. | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head? If once they stop you and you assault three police officers and break one of theirs noses then yes. But who decides where that line is crossed and they’ve got free reign to do what they want? Who decides. The person who decides to assault the police decides. You attack the police then expect being punched back. It is very easy. We don't reward the wrongdoers." If the cameras aren’t there what stops the police abusing this power you’d like them to have? | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head? The level of violence by the alleged complaintants, bear no semblance to speeding at 200mph on a motorway. They started the shit. They got panned. End of. Now they're trying to get money because they lost. Lower than a snakes belly imho. I would personally hang all nonces but I wouldn’t agree with stamping on their heads before they’ve been to trial. That’s how our legal system works." I would rather kill someone if my life in danger then answer the questions later | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head? If once they stop you and you assault three police officers and break one of theirs noses then yes. But who decides where that line is crossed and they’ve got free reign to do what they want? Who decides. The person who decides to assault the police decides. You attack the police then expect being punched back. It is very easy. We don't reward the wrongdoers. If the cameras aren’t there what stops the police abusing this power you’d like them to have? " Cameras are everywhere. The most surveilled society in the world. Thing is as it is the UK the quality is so shit they can't be used. | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head? The level of violence by the alleged complaintants, bear no semblance to speeding at 200mph on a motorway. They started the shit. They got panned. End of. Now they're trying to get money because they lost. Lower than a snakes belly imho. I would personally hang all nonces but I wouldn’t agree with stamping on their heads before they’ve been to trial. That’s how our legal system works. I would rather kill someone if my life in danger then answer the questions later " Are you in danger when someone has been tasered and is incapacitated on the floor? | |||
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"The new video makes zero difference. There is no justification for stamping on someone’s head when they are face down on the floor. If you think there is you are a danger to society. We will have to agree to disagree. All the time those who seek to attack the police continue to get away with it the worse it will become. You attack the police then you should expect the same in return. The police aren't punching bags. And what happens of you get pulled over for doing 75 on a motorway? Should they stamp on your head? If once they stop you and you assault three police officers and break one of theirs noses then yes. But who decides where that line is crossed and they’ve got free reign to do what they want? Who decides. The person who decides to assault the police decides. You attack the police then expect being punched back. It is very easy. We don't reward the wrongdoers. If the cameras aren’t there what stops the police abusing this power you’d like them to have? Cameras are everywhere. The most surveilled society in the world. Thing is as it is the UK the quality is so shit they can't be used. " My point is the cameras won’t be working one time or whatever excuse they come up with. | |||
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"There were 40330 assaults on police officers in 2023. The problem is those who think they can attack the police." Let’s stamp on all their heads  | |||
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"There were 40330 assaults on police officers in 2023. The problem is those who think they can attack the police. Let’s stamp on all their heads "Your words, not mine but I like your thinking. | |||
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"The new video is 39 seconds long showing the start and end. 29 seconds the guy who was tapered and kicked in the head is on the back of the cop who eventually kicks him. He's then tasered then falls backwards while holding onto the cop. The cop gets up. Then kicks him. He has an awful lot of adrenalin running round his body. His exempelerary training ensured he never used his gun. He lost control for a split second and his perpetrator received a stamping. The police officer imho, should receive a medal for keeping his temper, adrenalin to an absolute minimum." A jail sentence would be more appropriate. See how he gets on acting like a thug around real thugs. | |||
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"The new video is 39 seconds long showing the start and end. 29 seconds the guy who was tapered and kicked in the head is on the back of the cop who eventually kicks him. He's then tasered then falls backwards while holding onto the cop. The cop gets up. Then kicks him. He has an awful lot of adrenalin running round his body. His exempelerary training ensured he never used his gun. He lost control for a split second and his perpetrator received a stamping. The police officer imho, should receive a medal for keeping his temper, adrenalin to an absolute minimum. A jail sentence would be more appropriate. See how he gets on acting like a thug around real thugs." He would be dealing with real thugs everyday. So you seem to like the idea of the police getting a kicking. Now we see you. | |||
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"The new video is 39 seconds long showing the start and end. 29 seconds the guy who was tapered and kicked in the head is on the back of the cop who eventually kicks him. He's then tasered then falls backwards while holding onto the cop. The cop gets up. Then kicks him. He has an awful lot of adrenalin running round his body. His exempelerary training ensured he never used his gun. He lost control for a split second and his perpetrator received a stamping. The police officer imho, should receive a medal for keeping his temper, adrenalin to an absolute minimum. A jail sentence would be more appropriate. See how he gets on acting like a thug around real thugs. He would be dealing with real thugs everyday. So you seem to like the idea of the police getting a kicking. Now we see you." That’s probably the most hypocritical statement I’ve seen on here. You were all for criminals getting beatings a minute ago. If he is tried and convicted he would be a criminal so it’s fair game by your logic?  | |||
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"That is the only one you talked about. So you have had many run ins with the police?" My friends car got nicked and I took him to police station, we actually found it on way. Secured it went to report it, the copper on the desk said if you've got it back what's the problem? And shut the window on us. Another occasion when I was about 17/18 I got arrested with my friend while going for a can of petrol, the garage had been done over (had to use that terminology) and the thieves had a petrol can (we didn't fit description) but they arrested us, my deaf friend got punched for ignoring them, he was deaf and they stood behind him shouting at him, they didn't separate us so saw it happen. He did lose his job not because he'd done wrong per se, but because who my family are and old money cronyism. But that was an eye opener as to what people experienced with police, never really trusted them since. | |||
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"The new video is 39 seconds long showing the start and end. 29 seconds the guy who was tapered and kicked in the head is on the back of the cop who eventually kicks him. He's then tasered then falls backwards while holding onto the cop. The cop gets up. Then kicks him. He has an awful lot of adrenalin running round his body. His exempelerary training ensured he never used his gun. He lost control for a split second and his perpetrator received a stamping. The police officer imho, should receive a medal for keeping his temper, adrenalin to an absolute minimum. A jail sentence would be more appropriate. See how he gets on acting like a thug around real thugs. He would be dealing with real thugs everyday. So you seem to like the idea of the police getting a kicking. Now we see you. That’s probably the most hypocritical statement I’ve seen on here. You were all for criminals getting beatings a minute ago. If he is tried and convicted he would be a criminal so it’s fair game by your logic? "I think you should remember the rule of holes. | |||
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"That is the only one you talked about. So you have had many run ins with the police? My friends car got nicked and I took him to police station, we actually found it on way. Secured it went to report it, the copper on the desk said if you've got it back what's the problem? And shut the window on us. Another occasion when I was about 17/18 I got arrested with my friend while going for a can of petrol, the garage had been done over (had to use that terminology) and the thieves had a petrol can (we didn't fit description) but they arrested us, my deaf friend got punched for ignoring them, he was deaf and they stood behind him shouting at him, they didn't separate us so saw it happen. He did lose his job not because he'd done wrong per se, but because who my family are and old money cronyism. But that was an eye opener as to what people experienced with police, never really trusted them since. " Yep. Way to many experiences like that. Prisons are full so no point catching them anyway. Very long way back for policing and consequences in this country. Too far I fear. | |||
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"That is the only one you talked about. So you have had many run ins with the police? My friends car got nicked and I took him to police station, we actually found it on way. Secured it went to report it, the copper on the desk said if you've got it back what's the problem? And shut the window on us. Another occasion when I was about 17/18 I got arrested with my friend while going for a can of petrol, the garage had been done over (had to use that terminology) and the thieves had a petrol can (we didn't fit description) but they arrested us, my deaf friend got punched for ignoring them, he was deaf and they stood behind him shouting at him, they didn't separate us so saw it happen. He did lose his job not because he'd done wrong per se, but because who my family are and old money cronyism. But that was an eye opener as to what people experienced with police, never really trusted them since. " Can 100% believe that mate, similar to most my experiences but according to some on here was likely your fault somehow as police can do no wrong. At the age of 18 I was arrested and punched and kicked while handcuffed before spending 24 hours locked up, my crime was arriving home with my girlfriend at the same time they were out looking for people involved in a separate incident. I was asked to step off my drive to talk and stupidly I did no sooner was I off they pounced on me. Another time they broke into my garage in Broad daylight while I was at work when they suspected I was ringing cars as I dared to own 3-4 of the same model and one of them had a new floor pan so the vin number was stamped elsewhere (was heavily into rs turbos and xr3i at the time) they didn’t even bother to shut it despite my main restoration project being in there and all my tools. Later I had to let officers inspect every vehicle and search my shed. | |||
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"The new video is 39 seconds long showing the start and end. 29 seconds the guy who was tapered and kicked in the head is on the back of the cop who eventually kicks him. He's then tasered then falls backwards while holding onto the cop. The cop gets up. Then kicks him. He has an awful lot of adrenalin running round his body. His exempelerary training ensured he never used his gun. He lost control for a split second and his perpetrator received a stamping. The police officer imho, should receive a medal for keeping his temper, adrenalin to an absolute minimum. A jail sentence would be more appropriate. See how he gets on acting like a thug around real thugs. He would be dealing with real thugs everyday. So you seem to like the idea of the police getting a kicking. Now we see you. That’s probably the most hypocritical statement I’ve seen on here. You were all for criminals getting beatings a minute ago. If he is tried and convicted he would be a criminal so it’s fair game by your logic? "Your wasting your time mate debating anything with these fucking idiots is like playing chess which a pigeon who proceeds to knock all the pieces over and shit all over the board and strut around like they won | |||
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"The new video is 39 seconds long showing the start and end. 29 seconds the guy who was tapered and kicked in the head is on the back of the cop who eventually kicks him. He's then tasered then falls backwards while holding onto the cop. The cop gets up. Then kicks him. He has an awful lot of adrenalin running round his body. His exempelerary training ensured he never used his gun. He lost control for a split second and his perpetrator received a stamping. The police officer imho, should receive a medal for keeping his temper, adrenalin to an absolute minimum. A jail sentence would be more appropriate. See how he gets on acting like a thug around real thugs. He would be dealing with real thugs everyday. So you seem to like the idea of the police getting a kicking. Now we see you. That’s probably the most hypocritical statement I’ve seen on here. You were all for criminals getting beatings a minute ago. If he is tried and convicted he would be a criminal so it’s fair game by your logic?
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"The new video is 39 seconds long showing the start and end. 29 seconds the guy who was tapered and kicked in the head is on the back of the cop who eventually kicks him. He's then tasered then falls backwards while holding onto the cop. The cop gets up. Then kicks him. He has an awful lot of adrenalin running round his body. His exempelerary training ensured he never used his gun. He lost control for a split second and his perpetrator received a stamping. The police officer imho, should receive a medal for keeping his temper, adrenalin to an absolute minimum. A jail sentence would be more appropriate. See how he gets on acting like a thug around real thugs. He would be dealing with real thugs everyday. So you seem to like the idea of the police getting a kicking. Now we see you. That’s probably the most hypocritical statement I’ve seen on here. You were all for criminals getting beatings a minute ago. If he is tried and convicted he would be a criminal so it’s fair game by your logic?
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"Please explain your logic as to how that post could possibly indicate how someone would “always be in trouble with the police” " Who are you asking that of? | |||
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"After seeing a bit more of the video, I think it is not that bad. If that was a street fight, that would be accepted. But due to it being a police officer, it is not accepted." No, your wrong. The member of public would have been charged with using excessive force. If this was ok for a member of public to do in self defence, I would have no issue with it. | |||
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"The new video is 39 seconds long showing the start and end. 29 seconds the guy who was tapered and kicked in the head is on the back of the cop who eventually kicks him. He's then tasered then falls backwards while holding onto the cop. The cop gets up. Then kicks him. He has an awful lot of adrenalin running round his body. His exempelerary training ensured he never used his gun. He lost control for a split second and his perpetrator received a stamping. The police officer imho, should receive a medal for keeping his temper, adrenalin to an absolute minimum. A jail sentence would be more appropriate. See how he gets on acting like a thug around real thugs. He would be dealing with real thugs everyday. So you seem to like the idea of the police getting a kicking. Now we see you. That’s probably the most hypocritical statement I’ve seen on here. You were all for criminals getting beatings a minute ago. If he is tried and convicted he would be a criminal so it’s fair game by your logic?
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" I’m law abiding and absolutely detest them due to several bad experiences " How have you managed to have so many bad experiences as a law abiding and assumingly respectful member of society? | |||
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"the updated video with what happened before the video is an eye opener. they should be watched together as there was an unprovoked attack on the police" The updated video also shows the police throwing the first punch. | |||
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"Sometimes the red mist descends and after watching his female colleague be g punched He probs my lost it and took the guy out , The pc has now lost his job and the guy he hit will probably receive compensation , no wonder the police have problem recruiting " I know 2 shopkeepers who were charged and fined for defending themselves from knife welding thugs. They used less violence than the policeman in the video. They now have criminal records. One can't have a licenced business in his own name. The police investigating one of incidents were not sympathetic at all. They told the guy he should have shown more self control. When the untrained public are allowed to defend themselves with this force. Maybe then I would be more understanding of a trained professional losing control in a similar situation. | |||
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"the updated video with what happened before the video is an eye opener. they should be watched together as there was an unprovoked attack on the police The updated video also shows the police throwing the first punch." At what point do you think man handling anyone, let alone a policeman is acceptable? | |||
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"Sometimes the red mist descends and after watching his female colleague be g punched He probs my lost it and took the guy out , The pc has now lost his job and the guy he hit will probably receive compensation , no wonder the police have problem recruiting I know 2 shopkeepers who were charged and fined for defending themselves from knife welding thugs. They used less violence than the policeman in the video. They now have criminal records. One can't have a licenced business in his own name. The police investigating one of incidents were not sympathetic at all. They told the guy he should have shown more self control. When the untrained public are allowed to defend themselves with this force. Maybe then I would be more understanding of a trained professional losing control in a similar situation. " The police do not decide who to charge in Scotland. The Procurator Fiscal (PF) does. So if you are going to blame anyone make sure you blame the right one. | |||
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"the updated video with what happened before the video is an eye opener. they should be watched together as there was an unprovoked attack on the police The updated video also shows the police throwing the first punch. At what point do you think man handling anyone, let alone a policeman is acceptable?" I’m the one arguing against manhandling of anyone. You’re arguing the opposite. | |||
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"the updated video with what happened before the video is an eye opener. they should be watched together as there was an unprovoked attack on the police The updated video also shows the police throwing the first punch. At what point do you think man handling anyone, let alone a policeman is acceptable?" There is no doubt the whole event is horrific and heat of the moment decisions were made. If I was in that situation I really don’t know how I would have reacted. Having recently witnessed an assault on a police officer I can understand that control was lost. | |||
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"Sometimes the red mist descends and after watching his female colleague be g punched He probs my lost it and took the guy out , The pc has now lost his job and the guy he hit will probably receive compensation , no wonder the police have problem recruiting I know 2 shopkeepers who were charged and fined for defending themselves from knife welding thugs. They used less violence than the policeman in the video. They now have criminal records. One can't have a licenced business in his own name. The police investigating one of incidents were not sympathetic at all. They told the guy he should have shown more self control. When the untrained public are allowed to defend themselves with this force. Maybe then I would be more understanding of a trained professional losing control in a similar situation. The police do not decide who to charge in Scotland. The Procurator Fiscal (PF) does. So if you are going to blame anyone make sure you blame the right one." What did I blame the police of..? I wrote what their attitude and response was during the investigation. You seem so intent to dismiss anything that doesn't paint the police in a positive light, that you reading things that are not there. | |||
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"I said remember who makes the charging decisions. It wasn't the police. You complained about someone not being able to have a business in their name. I think you are being too sensitive." Who are you replying to? | |||
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"I said remember who makes the charging decisions. It wasn't the police. You complained about someone not being able to have a business in their name. I think you are being too sensitive." I still don't get your responses. Blame, complaint..? My post was an account of what happened in 2 similar incidents where it was a member of public defending themselves. What the police attitude and response was. Nothing more, nothing less. You want to keep knittpicking and whataboutery that's your choice. | |||
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