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Should schools be militarised?
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"I watched an interesting program about someone who lived in brazil and talked about different things and he mentioned about how the schools there have been militarised and how positively the change have been in some areas. He talked about a program that was set out to change troublesome schools to be role model schools, does it sound to good to be true? That is actually what have become the reality, the schools are set in troublesome areas, in what can be called as comunidades. He mentioned how many teachers and pupils dont even dear to go to the school, inside the school the drug dealers rule, the president wanted when he was a president to find a solution, he wanted to test and enforce a new order in some of these schools, voluntary from the military could take over the administration of the school and to be in charge of the security. He added that after the change, now they could work under much more calmer situation, the pupils loved it, so did the teachers, but it was criticised very hard by the left, it was talked that the president wanted to militarise the pupils, but that whole thing eventually stopped by the left thinking that, the class room got in order, the disorder ended, the drug dealers got sent out, they started to use school uniform, learn the national athem, teachers could teach without getting thretened, the study results improved drastically very quickly, just in few weeks. Now there are hundreds of these schools in brasil, you could say that it is civil military schools and the parents are in a queue to get their kids in there, even the kids are telling their parents how much they want to be there, the school are in all the state that have a conservative government. What is your view about it, do you think that they could use the same kind of idea in troublesome schools in the uk and transform them? I think that it could be one of the solutions for it too "Don’t believe the hype | |||
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"Right-wingers seem perpetually surprised at how putting proper finance into public services can improve things. What British schools need isn't more wankery with bizarre rules, it's the basic money to stop the classroom roof falling down, to buy textbooks and supplies, and to be able to pay teachers. It looks like we might be finally getting that, but we've got 14 years of damage to fix. " Of course the lefties will leave us bust agsin within 5 year | |||
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"What's the program called please and on what channel?" It is not a progam on its own, it was just a little program talk about it in the swedish news, it was interesting too | |||
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"Right-wingers seem perpetually surprised at how putting proper finance into public services can improve things. What British schools need isn't more wankery with bizarre rules, it's the basic money to stop the classroom roof falling down, to buy textbooks and supplies, and to be able to pay teachers. It looks like we might be finally getting that, but we've got 14 years of damage to fix. Of course the lefties will leave us bust agsin within 5 year " Because we’re rolling in money right now. What a ridiculous comment. | |||
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"They should send in the army to failing schools and insert discipline in both teachers and children. Teachers should dress properly and set an example. Some of them dress like Jeremy Corbn" Too right Tom, some of these teaching types are on more illegal substances than the pupils. What’s going on here? | |||
"They should send in the army to failing schools and insert discipline in both teachers and children. Teachers should dress properly and set an example. Some of them dress like Jeremy Corbn" The real danger is if you train or discipline pupils what you end up with is a bunch of thugs who now know how to kill efficiently. Society would have a problem controlling them because they would be wired differently and out of control. We need to be careful in our thinking and ideas | |||
"They should send in the army to failing schools and insert discipline in both teachers and children. Teachers should dress properly and set an example. Some of them dress like Jeremy Corbn The real danger is if you train or discipline pupils what you end up with is a bunch of thugs who now know how to kill efficiently. Society would have a problem controlling them because they would be wired differently and out of control. We need to be careful in our thinking and ideas " And trained with a jingoistic obedience of any orders passed down to them, regardless of how inhumane they may be. | |||
"They should send in the army to failing schools and insert discipline in both teachers and children. Teachers should dress properly and set an example. Some of them dress like Jeremy Corbn The real danger is if you train or discipline pupils what you end up with is a bunch of thugs who now know how to kill efficiently. Society would have a problem controlling them because they would be wired differently and out of control. We need to be careful in our thinking and ideas And trained with a jingoistic obedience of any orders passed down to them, regardless of how inhumane they may be. " Problem is when your young you do not worry about consequences. This is why so many young carry knifes.they are not worried about time in prison. As we get older we know spending 20+ years behind bars isn't desirable because life is ruined at the age you are released. Kill at 20 come out at 40 or earlier you still have a fair amount of life to live. | |||
"Right-wingers seem perpetually surprised at how putting proper finance into public services can improve things. What British schools need isn't more wankery with bizarre rules, it's the basic money to stop the classroom roof falling down, to buy textbooks and supplies, and to be able to pay teachers. It looks like we might be finally getting that, but we've got 14 years of damage to fix. Of course the lefties will leave us bust agsin within 5 year Because we’re rolling in money right now. What a ridiculous comment. " Debt isn’t always a bad thing if it’s for the right investments. 3.5bn was auctioned recently but only in 3 & 6 month treasury bills. If labour want to borrow for 5-10 years for the right things on the right terms there are lots of people ready to invest. Let’s see what ideas they have first and how much they want | |||
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"Bolsonaro was repugnant and I'd not trust him. But if research shows that this is the best way in that environment to help kids to learn and to keep people safe, it's right. I'm guessing few options were researched though. It's almost certainly not right for here" Yes, if the research shows it helps the kids to learn and to keep people safe. I dont see any problems with it  | |||
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"Do Swedish schools need military intervention, Shag? They get an excellent write up internationally and everyone wants to replicate them." That's like comparing apples and potatoes | |||
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"They should send in the army to failing schools and insert discipline in both teachers and children. Teachers should dress properly and set an example. Some of them dress like Jeremy Corbn" Yes, introducing the army in failing schools, no doubt would see a big change quick, both in grades and how they act, what is usually missing is direction and guidance too | |||
"They should send in the army to failing schools and insert discipline in both teachers and children. Teachers should dress properly and set an example. Some of them dress like Jeremy CorbnYes, introducing the army in failing schools, no doubt would see a big change quick, both in grades and how they act, what is usually missing is direction and guidance too "Send Army instructors in with Army PTIs. Physical Training Instructors | |||
