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Hi guys, I need the cultural braintrust of fab for a moment. May I also state that I am asking in ernest and not to be prejudice.
What is the difference between a fuck buddy and a friends with benefits situation and a sub question, why do most FWB preference the other be single.
If both people are single and exclusively sleeping and socialising with each other, is that not just a relationship?
I am trying to understand the nuance. |
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As with all naming conventions likely nuanced. But I'd say a fwb is someone I'd happily got to the pub with, but has that invitation within the friendship for filth, while an FB is someone who we predominantly and largely exclusively fuck when we spend time together (pizza breaks allowed) |
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its all a 'relationship' - it means to be relating to another person, its the terms of how your relate.
I prefer single guys because i so far i find married are usually doing it in secret and i am not going to be squeezed in between the tea and trip to the gym - and i am not going to be rushed around because someone forgot to call someone.
I prefer single guys because it - for me makes it less complicated with other people's involvement - so still waiting for someone to prove me wrong!! |
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"As with all naming conventions likely nuanced. But I'd say a fwb is someone I'd happily got to the pub with, but has that invitation within the friendship for filth, while an FB is someone who we predominantly and largely exclusively fuck when we spend time together (pizza breaks allowed)"
This, the friends part makes it more of a relationship but not exclusively than casual hook ups. |
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By *lueLotusWoman 20 weeks ago
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I have a FB we see each other only about once a month for a couple of hours, I'd like an fwb for texting and going out for dinner, staying overnight, couply stuff without actually being a couple  I don't know if that could work tho would be fun to try |
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"OK good feedback.
So a fuck buddy is someone you only interact with when engaging in sex?
A friend with benefits is like having a romantic partner in everything but name?"
Personally... a fwb isn't a romantic partner, it's a friend where intimacy is part of our friendship. I can indeed have a lot of love for them, but I'm not planning my future with a presumption of them in it, or aiming towards running of into the sunset and all the relationship expectations that may come with that. |
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By *elloWoman 20 weeks ago
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To me, a FB would be someone whose good in the sack of stationary cupboard etc but I wouldn't really socialise with , possibly wouldn't have a personality I liked but a great body and cock.
A fwb we'd have more of a netflix and chill relationship |
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By *vaRose43Woman 20 weeks ago
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I never thought there was much of a difference.
As a preference I prefer married/attached fwb’s as that helps keep boundaries firm and they’re less likely to stray into other feelings beyond friendship with sex |
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It is more common for women to see men as fuck buddies or vice versa? Personally I need to feel safe with a person before I can have sex with someone but I suppose it is possible to build that with either dynamic. |
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"It is more common for women to see men as fuck buddies or vice versa? Personally I need to feel safe with a person before I can have sex with someone but I suppose it is possible to build that with either dynamic. "
Needing connection for intimacy is very very ok, I think a lot of us roll that way. Sex is exposing, and vulnerable and our bodies are ours to both protect and give... and everyone's lines on this are different. |
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"I never thought there was much of a difference.
As a preference I prefer married/attached fwb’s as that helps keep boundaries firm and they’re less likely to stray into other feelings beyond friendship with sex"
So there may be another pattern emerging. Where single people lean more to other singles and married people prefer other married or attached people?
This is very interesting. |
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By *hilloutMan 20 weeks ago
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"Bookmarking this for the plethora of convoluted responses that will leave me none-the-wiser. "
I actually thought it was fairly straight forward? An FB is someone you meet up primarily for sex, whilst a FWB has the sexual as well as emphasis on a social component? With the FB you do the deed and off you go while the FWB might be someone you spend the weekend together, see a film or attend theatre with, go out for dinner, etc?
Unless I've completely missed something  |
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"It is more common for women to see men as fuck buddies or vice versa? Personally I need to feel safe with a person before I can have sex with someone but I suppose it is possible to build that with either dynamic.
Needing connection for intimacy is very very ok, I think a lot of us roll that way. Sex is exposing, and vulnerable and our bodies are ours to both protect and give... and everyone's lines on this are different."
Plus trauma, always a fun barrier to overcome. |
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"It is more common for women to see men as fuck buddies or vice versa? Personally I need to feel safe with a person before I can have sex with someone but I suppose it is possible to build that with either dynamic.
Needing connection for intimacy is very very ok, I think a lot of us roll that way. Sex is exposing, and vulnerable and our bodies are ours to both protect and give... and everyone's lines on this are different.
Plus trauma, always a fun barrier to overcome. "
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By *lueLotusWoman 20 weeks ago
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With my fb it's chatting and fucking but we don't meet or text outside of that. It's still gotten quite intimate over time as these things can tend to do if you're chatting and sharing your body with someone. The boundaries were set out at the beginning though so it's just a matter of staying within them and enjoying it for what it is, for me anyway. |
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"Bookmarking this for the plethora of convoluted responses that will leave me none-the-wiser.
I actually thought it was fairly straight forward? An FB is someone you meet up primarily for sex, whilst a FWB has the sexual as well as emphasis on a social component? With the FB you do the deed and off you go while the FWB might be someone you spend the weekend together, see a film or attend theatre with, go out for dinner, etc?
Unless I've completely missed something "
That was my initial understanding too but it was the "must be single " part in some preference I was trying to understand. I have friends I don't sleep with and I don't require any of them be single. |
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By *iviWoman 20 weeks ago
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A fuckbuddy is someone I wouldn't want to spend too much time with but I still need to like them and feel comfortable. It's just the attraction is mostly physical.
A fwb is someone I'd happily invite to a gig or round for dinner if I'm tired of eating alone for once. I'd also prob be chatting to them often by text. But I don't expect to know where they are daily or for either of us not to see other people. But I value their conversation and company.
Single or attached with partners consent only though. |
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By *iviWoman 20 weeks ago
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"Bookmarking this for the plethora of convoluted responses that will leave me none-the-wiser.
I actually thought it was fairly straight forward? An FB is someone you meet up primarily for sex, whilst a FWB has the sexual as well as emphasis on a social component? With the FB you do the deed and off you go while the FWB might be someone you spend the weekend together, see a film or attend theatre with, go out for dinner, etc?
Unless I've completely missed something
That was my initial understanding too but it was the "must be single " part in some preference I was trying to understand. I have friends I don't sleep with and I don't require any of them be single. "
I think maybe it's because single doesn't mean they can't sleep with other people even have other friends with benefits. I just don't want to be part of you cheating on your unsuspecting partner. |
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What is the difference between a fuck buddy and a friends with benefits situation and a sub question, why do most FWB preference the other be single.
If both people are single and exclusively sleeping and socialising with each other, is that not just a relationship?
I am trying to understand the nuance. "
Why do you think fwb means people are exclusive to each other?
If fb's see each other when they do and fwb see each other but do other things too, what says they don't see others also? |
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By *lueLotusWoman 20 weeks ago
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"Bookmarking this for the plethora of convoluted responses that will leave me none-the-wiser.
I actually thought it was fairly straight forward? An FB is someone you meet up primarily for sex, whilst a FWB has the sexual as well as emphasis on a social component? With the FB you do the deed and off you go while the FWB might be someone you spend the weekend together, see a film or attend theatre with, go out for dinner, etc?
Unless I've completely missed something
That was my initial understanding too but it was the "must be single " part in some preference I was trying to understand. I have friends I don't sleep with and I don't require any of them be single. "
Ah I see... I don't require an fwb to be single as long as the partner knows what's going on and is ok with it too. Can't speak for others. |
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By *vaRose43Woman 20 weeks ago
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"I never thought there was much of a difference.
As a preference I prefer married/attached fwb’s as that helps keep boundaries firm and they’re less likely to stray into other feelings beyond friendship with sex
So there may be another pattern emerging. Where single people lean more to other singles and married people prefer other married or attached people?
This is very interesting. "
Maybe? And it’s a preference for me but it’s not set in stone. |
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By *apybarasCouple 20 weeks ago
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"I never thought there was much of a difference.
As a preference I prefer married/attached fwb’s as that helps keep boundaries firm and they’re less likely to stray into other feelings beyond friendship with sex
So there may be another pattern emerging. Where single people lean more to other singles and married people prefer other married or attached people?
This is very interesting.
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I think two singles as FWB probably have more opportunity for unplanned, instant stuff.
If a FWB is part of a couple it makes planning a little more important. That would certainly be my interpretation of the situation. |
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"Bookmarking this for the plethora of convoluted responses that will leave me none-the-wiser.
I actually thought it was fairly straight forward? An FB is someone you meet up primarily for sex, whilst a FWB has the sexual as well as emphasis on a social component? With the FB you do the deed and off you go while the FWB might be someone you spend the weekend together, see a film or attend theatre with, go out for dinner, etc?
Unless I've completely missed something
That was my initial understanding too but it was the "must be single " part in some preference I was trying to understand. I have friends I don't sleep with and I don't require any of them be single. "
It's probably people trying to avoid drama. People who are married, cheating, playing away.. people in relationships that are consensual but only have a couple of hours rather than a full day or couple of days. You've probably read a profile or two and seen a preference.. Singles are usually less hassle to work with I'd imagine. |
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My supposing is that whatever term people want to use depends on hat they want it to mean . I’m in some form of relationships with two women (both long term ) and none of us have really given our relationships a term . It has been a long long time since I fucked with anyone who I wouldn’t class as a friend first , I kinda thought FWB had evolved from FB . Purely because it seems to be more widely used . I think if I did make the massive mistake in using it to describe my relationships I’d be either of aching bollocks or officially relationshipless  |
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"Bookmarking this for the plethora of convoluted responses that will leave me none-the-wiser.
I actually thought it was fairly straight forward? An FB is someone you meet up primarily for sex, whilst a FWB has the sexual as well as emphasis on a social component? With the FB you do the deed and off you go while the FWB might be someone you spend the weekend together, see a film or attend theatre with, go out for dinner, etc?
Unless I've completely missed something
That was my initial understanding too but it was the "must be single " part in some preference I was trying to understand. I have friends I don't sleep with and I don't require any of them be single.
It's probably people trying to avoid drama. People who are married, cheating, playing away.. people in relationships that are consensual but only have a couple of hours rather than a full day or couple of days. You've probably read a profile or two and seen a preference.. Singles are usually less hassle to work with I'd imagine."
Valid observation. |
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What is one to another is something else to someone else.
Fuck buddy to me is someone I see for sex, I might have a cup of coffee with them but that’s it, then straight to it. I’d rarely speak to them in between meets, other than to arrange the next.
FWB to me is someone I would do things with… go to dinner or ac_ivities (non sexual), have no issue messaging or calling to have a chat. Very much like a friend but one that I have lots of sex with
Neither mean being exclusive for me. |
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"What is one to another is something else to someone else.
Fuck buddy to me is someone I see for sex, I might have a cup of coffee with them but that’s it, then straight to it. I’d rarely speak to them in between meets, other than to arrange the next.
FWB to me is someone I would do things with… go to dinner or ac_ivities (non sexual), have no issue messaging or calling to have a chat. Very much like a friend but one that I have lots of sex with
Neither mean being exclusive for me."
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Erm. Yeh  this |
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Thanks a lot fabsters. This has been informative and highly productive. Good healthy discourse and sharing alternative perspectives is the best way for me to understand the position of others so again I thank you.
Gotta go to work now. |
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Friends with benefits. Someone to go out with for meals, drinks etc, and occasionally shag. Not exclusive
Fuck buddy. Occasionally shag, maybe go for a drink. Also not exclusive.
I've been lucky with two FWBs
One caught feelings. But we're still friends. Had to stop the benefits, as it was leading her on.
The other thought I was catching feelings and kicked me to the curb.
My only regular FB lost contact when I got a serious relationship, and stopped playing. |
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By *agic.MMan 20 weeks ago
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Philosophy 101...
FB (fuck buddy) - " hey...what you up to? Fancy a fuck?"
FWB (friend with benefits) - " _ello, what you doing over the weekend? Fancy going to see the new Deadpool movie, grab a drink and than maybe later some naked cuddles at my place ?  " |
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By *elloWoman 20 weeks ago
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"Philosophy 101...
FB (fuck buddy) - " hey...what you up to? Fancy a fuck?"
FWB (friend with benefits) - " _ello, what you doing over the weekend? Fancy going to see the new Deadpool movie, grab a drink and than maybe later some naked cuddles at my place ? " "
Yes I do, I love the Deadpool films |
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FWB. Friend who I socialise with, go for dinner, drinks, netflix and chill, cwtch, often stay the night and get intimate with. Sometimes 'couple up' to meet other players.
FB. See them for sex, occasions socialise outside that.
Casual shag. More than ONS, less than FB.
Sexy Wingman/ wingwoman. Friend who I attend clubs and events with socially, but who gets intimate if neither of us pull anyone else. |
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Fascinating discussion! There hasn’t been any mention of either FB or FWB where a single guy (or woman) interacts with a couple. Doesn’t need to be a bi setting (not for us certainly but each to their own). It seems to have been assumed that only 2 people can be involved :-0
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They are all forms of relationship aren't they?
I think of all relationships in terms of Intimacy, Passion/lust and commitment.
FB is high in lust usually low in intimacy and commitment.
FWB high in intimacy with varied levels of lust, some commitment.
Partner high levels of all 3. |
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"Fascinating discussion! There hasn’t been any mention of either FB or FWB where a single guy (or woman) interacts with a couple. Doesn’t need to be a bi setting (not for us certainly but each to their own). It seems to have been assumed that only 2 people can be involved :-0
Then thank you for joining the conversation and adding your perspective to the chat.
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"Bookmarking this for the plethora of convoluted responses that will leave me none-the-wiser.
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I actually thought it was fairly straight forward? An FB is someone you meet up primarily for sex, whilst a FWB has the sexual as well as emphasis on a social component? With the FB you do the deed and off you go while the FWB might be someone you spend the weekend together, see a film or attend theatre with, go out for dinner, etc?
Unless I've completely missed something "
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The question was straightforward (and a good one). Every response has its merit and there's no wrong answer (sort of). But every answer is prone to misinterpretation (by me) because there is no officially mandated definition.
And...I was actually being jocular. . |
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"Fascinating discussion! There hasn’t been any mention of either FB or FWB where a single guy (or woman) interacts with a couple. Doesn’t need to be a bi setting (not for us certainly but each to their own). It seems to have been assumed that only 2 people can be involved :-0
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I have a nice FWB situation with a couple going on nearly a year now. |
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By (user no longer on site) 20 weeks ago
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I actually thought it was fairly straight forward? An FB is someone you meet up primarily for sex, whilst a FWB has the sexual as well as emphasis on a social component? With the FB you do the deed and off you go while the FWB might be someone you spend the weekend together, see a film or attend theatre with, go out for dinner, etc?
Unless I've completely missed something
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The question was straightforward (and a good one). Every response has its merit and there's no wrong answer …"
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By (user no longer on site) 20 weeks ago
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A FB is someone you keep in your phone contacts and when you don’t pull at the end of Friday night, you text to say FAF?. That’s the structure of that relationship. A low effort shag perhaps. They fuck off until the next time.
A FWB you may keep in touch with sporadically, but you don’t only meet up with for sex. You may socialise together. You share something more than you do with a FB but it’s not your partner. You may meet up infrequently. You may meet up often. You may enjoy dates and the fucking too. They aren’t coming round at Christmas time to meet your family though.
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By (user no longer on site) 20 weeks ago
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I don't do fbs and I don't do fwbs.
I wouldn't class any of the guys I talk to as friends, I wouldn't turn to them if I needed help. They are somewhere in-between.
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I thought the clue was in the title? But imo:
Fuck buddy= regular person to fuck (just contact to arrange meets)
FRIEND with benefits = friend who you do normal matey things with & also have sex with
Relationship = romantic stuff, emotional investment, being in love, building a life together jointly.
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"I thought the clue was in the title? But imo:
Fuck buddy= regular person to fuck (just contact to arrange meets)
FRIEND with benefits = friend who you do normal matey things with & also have sex with
Relationship = romantic stuff, emotional investment, being in love, building a life together jointly.
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So a fundamental difference seems to be how one is regarded in the moments without sex?
A fuck buddy is of little value without sex but a fwb is someone you would be friends with regardless of the physical contact? |
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To me a FB is a purely sexual situation, FWB is a sexual situation but with a friendship element.
I have a FWB in the past, we text here and there, have even been for a social before having some fun, we were also aware of each others personal lives, still discreet though.
With a previous FB it was pure sex, we met we had fun, we went our separate ways.
Both can be great fun with the right people and if you are both on the same page. |
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"I don't do fbs and I don't do fwbs.
I wouldn't class any of the guys I talk to...
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You talk to guys?!?  , JÅG?
Well, that's my bubble burst."
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I have longterm friends with benefits, we share all aspects of life together, bar merging family, finances and homes.
Roaming on weekend adventures is fuck buddy time, quick "are you available" text and rumpy pumpy is arranged. I don't chat regularly to those guys and we certainly don't share life together. |
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"I have longterm friends with benefits, we share all aspects of life together, bar merging family, finances and homes.
Roaming on weekend adventures is fuck buddy time, quick "are you available" text and rumpy pumpy is arranged. I don't chat regularly to those guys and we certainly don't share life together."
Rumpy pumpy |
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FB - minimal contact, don't really engage in any ac_ivities other than sex
FWB - some or a lot of contact whether it's texting/calling, hanging out maybe get a drink or do an ac_ivity, can actually talk to them about stuff as opposed to FB
Imo FWB is worse cos someone always ends up catching feelings at least with FB's it's just purely sex |
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"FB - minimal contact, don't really engage in any ac_ivities other than sex
FWB - some or a lot of contact whether it's texting/calling, hanging out maybe get a drink or do an ac_ivity, can actually talk to them about stuff as opposed to FB
Imo FWB is worse cos someone always ends up catching feelings at least with FB's it's just purely sex "
I like catching feels. I Don't need it reciprocated. Plenty of time in my youth I had feels for someone who didn't. |
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"What is one to another is something else to someone else.
Fuck buddy to me is someone I see for sex, I might have a cup of coffee with them but that’s it, then straight to it. I’d rarely speak to them in between meets, other than to arrange the next.
FWB to me is someone I would do things with… go to dinner or ac_ivities (non sexual), have no issue messaging or calling to have a chat. Very much like a friend but one that I have lots of sex with
Neither mean being exclusive for me."
This. I’ve had both. I prefer FWB. |
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I’ve been fwbs with my best friend for approx 18 months now.
He’s someone I message daily, about everything and anything, and he does the same with me.
It’s great as we have a lot of love for each other, can spend time together with or without sex, but without the pressures of an actual relationship.
I’ve had an fb before too, and we would generally just meet up for fun. There would be no real contact at any other time, and we wouldn’t hang out if sex wasn’t on the cards.
Maybe that helps?! I don’t know!! |
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FWB for me are people I meet even when sex isn't on the agenda. Sometimes we end up banging like a barn door in a gale, sometimes we don't.
FB I only meet if we're going to have sex. We may do other stuff first, we may go away for a weekend and do all kinds of lovely stuff, but if sex was taken off the table for whatever reason we wouldn't meet up. |
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For me, FB is for hook ups from time to time, just bedroom stuff (or mainly).
FWB- regular hook ups but also time away from the bedroom stuff without the heaviness of a monogamous relationship.
Neither is expected to be exclusive to me, nor I would ever be exclusive to just them. |
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A FB is someone you just meet for sex and don’t need to get to know each other in n any other level than you have good sex together.
A FWB for me sometime you build up a true friendship and have good sex together.
It tends be a closer relationship but without blurring the lines into a full on girlfriend/boyfriend relationship.
I prefer the latter as I like to enjoy the woman’s company before, during and after a meet  |
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By *bi HaiveMan 20 weeks ago
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"Hi guys, I need the cultural braintrust of fab for a moment. May I also state that I am asking in ernest and not to be prejudice.
What is the difference between a fuck buddy and a friends with benefits situation and a sub question, why do most FWB preference the other be single.
If both people are single and exclusively sleeping and socialising with each other, is that not just a relationship?
I am trying to understand the nuance. "
In all my years I've never had a FB or FWB where there's been any exclusivity.
FB's are pretty much just two people meeting for sex. FWB's socialise and may go out together on 'dates' too.
Neither are committed relationships, regardless of how close you are.
The F's matter.
'Fuck' and 'Friend'. Therein lies the difference. |
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"Hi guys, I need the cultural braintrust of fab for a moment. May I also state that I am asking in ernest and not to be prejudice.
What is the difference between a fuck buddy and a friends with benefits situation and a sub question, why do most FWB preference the other be single.
If both people are single and exclusively sleeping and socialising with each other, is that not just a relationship?
I am trying to understand the nuance.
In all my years I've never had a FB or FWB where there's been any exclusivity.
FB's are pretty much just two people meeting for sex. FWB's socialise and may go out together on 'dates' too.
Neither are committed relationships, regardless of how close you are.
The F's matter.
'Fuck' and 'Friend'. Therein lies the difference. "
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Fuck buddies are the people I have sexual chemistry but no social chemistry with. We can meet up to fuck and then they can fuck off until we both happen to have the horn simultaneously again.
Friends with benefits are people I call for company and fun. We can waffle for hours and have sex or not without it feeling weird. They're friends first. Benefits second |
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I don't do fb or fwb for the simple reason I always want more if I get too close to someone, n I don't do married men coz it's too complicated n I don't do cheating either n most married men meet in secret |
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By *ib.Man 20 weeks ago
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One is just for fun, the other is for friendship too.
Neither have any exclusivity unless discussed.
You probably need to chat to the person you have this arrangement with to flesh out the details. |
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