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"OP, are you filling in an application form or something? Are you stuck?" if I was then the gender part would have been filled | |||
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"None. I'm unilaterally abolishing gender became it just causes trouble. No more he. No more she. No more cis. No more trans. If you want to shag someone then get to know them as a person, not as a vag or dick. " I second this point OP - respectfully, you’re being a troll and there’s no need for it. Not sure if it’s deeply ingrained homophobia, fragile masculinity or just generic small mindedness but it’s not welcome here | |||
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"None. I'm unilaterally abolishing gender became it just causes trouble. No more he. No more she. No more cis. No more trans. If you want to shag someone then get to know them as a person, not as a vag or dick. I second this point OP - respectfully, you’re being a troll and there’s no need for it. Not sure if it’s deeply ingrained homophobia, fragile masculinity or just generic small mindedness but it’s not welcome here "it was just to ask a question | |||
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"There’s 2..I was just asking others opinion" Am I the only one who is creased laughing at this  | |||
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"There’s 2..I was just asking others opinion Am I the only one who is creased laughing at this "for? | |||
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"There’s 2..I was just asking others opinion · Am I the only one who is creased laughing at this "• I'm actually looking at your wallpaper. I like it. Very much. It has a William Morris feel to it. | |||
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"it was just to ask a question " Why when you then gave your own incorrect answer further down the thread? How do you account of hermaphrodite or intersex individuals? Are you hoping this will gain you positive female attention? Because my vagina practically locked down at reading your “question”. | |||
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"There’s 2..I was just asking others opinion · Am I the only one who is creased laughing at this
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I'm actually looking at your wallpaper. I like it. Very much. It has a William Morris feel to it. "I wish I could take the credit however that was taken in a studio it is not my own wallpaper  | |||
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"There’s 2..I was just asking others opinion · Am I the only one who is creased laughing at this
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I'm actually looking at your wallpaper. I like it. Very much. It has a William Morris feel to it.
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"How many genders are they" Did you mean 'they'? Is that how you sign your emails? 'They/them'. Gender is a social construct, so clearly more than your limited two OP. | |||
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"it was just to ask a question Why when you then gave your own incorrect answer further down the thread? How do you account of hermaphrodite or intersex individuals? Are you hoping this will gain you positive female attention? Because my vagina practically locked down at reading your “question”. " how is it incorrect?theres 2 genders..every once in a while a hermaphrodite might be born ..I’m defo not hoping for attention I was just asking plus I’m bored | |||
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"How many genders are they Did you mean 'they'? Is that how you sign your emails? 'They/them'. Gender is a social construct, so clearly more than your limited two OP." i meant there | |||
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"How many genders are they Did you mean 'they'? Is that how you sign your emails? 'They/them'. Gender is a social construct, so clearly more than your limited two OP." how many is there then | |||
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"it was just to ask a question Why when you then gave your own incorrect answer further down the thread? How do you account of hermaphrodite or intersex individuals? Are you hoping this will gain you positive female attention? Because my vagina practically locked down at reading your “question”. how is it incorrect?theres 2 genders..every once in a while a hermaphrodite might be born ..I’m defo not hoping for attention I was just asking plus I’m bored " You’re bored so you thought you try to start an argument. Honestly, you’re just looking like a bit of a transphobe | |||
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"It’s a social construct created by women’s liberation to describe the differences between men and women! However you could argue zero or 100 - now how many sexes is there? " you’ve just said it.men and women | |||
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"it was just to ask a question Why when you then gave your own incorrect answer further down the thread? How do you account of hermaphrodite or intersex individuals? Are you hoping this will gain you positive female attention? Because my vagina practically locked down at reading your “question”. how is it incorrect?theres 2 genders..every once in a while a hermaphrodite might be born ..I’m defo not hoping for attention I was just asking plus I’m bored You’re bored so you thought you try to start an argument. Honestly, you’re just looking like a bit of a transphobe" more of a debate.im not any type of phone | |||
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"How many genders are they Did you mean 'they'? Is that how you sign your emails? 'They/them'. Gender is a social construct, so clearly more than your limited two OP.how many is there then " Given its a societal construct, it may depend with the society since there are cultural, social, behavioral and even psychological aspects to gender. Consequently some may say two, others four, or eleven, and yet others 68 or even 72. | |||
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"How many genders are they" If your Google is broken, as I’m assuming that it must be. After all, why else would you ask? According to a quick search there are 72 recognised gender assignations. Please don’t get those confused with biological sex | |||
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"How many genders are they Did you mean 'they'? Is that how you sign your emails? 'They/them'. Gender is a social construct, so clearly more than your limited two OP.how many is there then Given its a societal construct, it may depend with the society since there are cultural, social, behavioral and even psychological aspects to gender. Consequently some may say two, others four, or eleven, and yet others 68 or even 72." but scientifically there’s 2 | |||
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"it was just to ask a question Why when you then gave your own incorrect answer further down the thread? How do you account of hermaphrodite or intersex individuals? Are you hoping this will gain you positive female attention? Because my vagina practically locked down at reading your “question”. how is it incorrect?theres 2 genders..every once in a while a hermaphrodite might be born ..I’m defo not hoping for attention I was just asking plus I’m bored You’re bored so you thought you try to start an argument. Honestly, you’re just looking like a bit of a transphobe more of a debate.im not any type of phone " There’s no debate. | |||
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"How many genders are they If your Google is broken, as I’m assuming that it must be. After all, why else would you ask? According to a quick search there are 72 recognised gender assignations. Please don’t get those confused with biological sex " please list them | |||
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"How many genders are they If your Google is broken, as I’m assuming that it must be. After all, why else would you ask? According to a quick search there are 72 recognised gender assignations. Please don’t get those confused with biological sex " Google is your friend OP. | |||
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"How many genders are they Did you mean 'they'? Is that how you sign your emails? 'They/them'. Gender is a social construct, so clearly more than your limited two OP.how many is there then Given its a societal construct, it may depend with the society since there are cultural, social, behavioral and even psychological aspects to gender. Consequently some may say two, others four, or eleven, and yet others 68 or even 72.but scientifically there’s 2" You’re conflating sex with gender, even then you’re wrong | |||
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"How many genders are they Did you mean 'they'? Is that how you sign your emails? 'They/them'. Gender is a social construct, so clearly more than your limited two OP.how many is there then Given its a societal construct, it may depend with the society since there are cultural, social, behavioral and even psychological aspects to gender. Consequently some may say two, others four, or eleven, and yet others 68 or even 72.but scientifically there’s 2 You’re conflating sex with gender, even then you’re wrong" enlighten me | |||
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"How many genders are they If your Google is broken, as I’m assuming that it must be. After all, why else would you ask? According to a quick search there are 72 recognised gender assignations. Please don’t get those confused with biological sex please list them " As I said, a quick google search showed me everything I needed to find. I suggest you do the same | |||
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"How many genders are they Did you mean 'they'? Is that how you sign your emails? 'They/them'. Gender is a social construct, so clearly more than your limited two OP.how many is there then Given its a societal construct, it may depend with the society since there are cultural, social, behavioral and even psychological aspects to gender. Consequently some may say two, others four, or eleven, and yet others 68 or even 72.but scientifically there’s 2 You’re conflating sex with gender, even then you’re wrongenlighten me" If you’re bored, watch a film or go to bed. I’m not your entertainment | |||
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"How many genders are they Did you mean 'they'? Is that how you sign your emails? 'They/them'. Gender is a social construct, so clearly more than your limited two OP.how many is there then Given its a societal construct, it may depend with the society since there are cultural, social, behavioral and even psychological aspects to gender. Consequently some may say two, others four, or eleven, and yet others 68 or even 72.but scientifically there’s 2 You’re conflating sex with gender, even then you’re wrongenlighten me" OP, if you are bored use Google. Type 'genders' and you'll find more than enough to satisfy your enquiring mind. | |||
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"I don’t need Google ..if you think there’s more then that’s your opinion..mine is there’s 2" What's the basis for your opinion? There's not much point to a debate without positions being backed up. | |||
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"I don’t need Google ..if you think there’s more then that’s your opinion..mine is there’s 2 What's the basis for your opinion? There's not much point to a debate without positions being backed up." it’s been backed up since the beginning of time it’s only as of late that people can identify as a cat | |||
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"Mark Twain said, “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience". " and that’s why I’m not arguing | |||
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"I don’t need Google ..if you think there’s more then that’s your opinion..mine is there’s 2 What's the basis for your opinion? There's not much point to a debate without positions being backed up.it’s been backed up since the beginning of time it’s only as of late that people can identify as a cat" Ah, a talking point. That's fun. Have you an independent thought? | |||
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"I don’t need Google ..if you think there’s more then that’s your opinion..mine is there’s 2 What's the basis for your opinion? There's not much point to a debate without positions being backed up.it’s been backed up since the beginning of time it’s only as of late that people can identify as a cat" What you mean is that you misunderstood during GCSE biology, you don’t know the difference between gender and sex, and that you’re a transphobe | |||
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"Hey, OP. I’m assuming that you’re d*unk, bored and you had an argument with your right hand, so she’s not putting out. Let’s not make it everyone else’s problem and don’t troll the nice folks of the forum. If you have a question, ask Google" This. 100% | |||
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"And keep it to the thread OP. I don't need bigoted comments in my DMs" Yep. 100% | |||
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"And keep it to the thread OP. I don't need bigoted comments in my DMs" I’ve not sent you a dm | |||
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"A person can think what they want but in reality they are either a man or a woman " Which is their sex. Not their gender. 100% | |||
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"A person can think what they want but in reality they are either a man or a woman " Did you fail sex education or did sex education fail you? | |||
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"A person can think what they want but in reality they are either a man or a woman Did you fail sex education or did sex education fail you? " sex education told me about the birds and the bees | |||
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"I’m a bigot for having my opinion?I’ve said multiple times that everyone can have their own view on life but I’m getting you all come at me for my opinion!not really fair is it " Life is like that OP. Everyone can voice their opinion on a public thread | |||
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"I’m a bigot for having my opinion?I’ve said multiple times that everyone can have their own view on life but I’m getting you all come at me for my opinion!not really fair is it " What’s not fair is you starting a thread about people of which you have absolutely no knowledge or understanding, simply to try and start an argument | |||
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"I’m a bigot for having my opinion?I’ve said multiple times that everyone can have their own view on life but I’m getting you all come at me for my opinion!not really fair is it Life is like that OP. Everyone can voice their opinion on a public thread "and I’ve voiced mine but I’m a bigot | |||
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"A person can think what they want but in reality they are either a man or a woman Did you fail sex education or did sex education fail you? sex education told me about the birds and the bees " Well that’s another couple of genders for you right there | |||
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"I’m a bigot for having my opinion?I’ve said multiple times that everyone can have their own view on life but I’m getting you all come at me for my opinion!not really fair is it Life is like that OP. Everyone can voice their opinion on a public thread and I’ve voiced mine but I’m a bigot "People are allowed to have opinions about other people's opinions. | |||
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"Load of cr*p" Drink some water before you nod off, you might have a headache in the morning. | |||
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"I’m a bigot for having my opinion?I’ve said multiple times that everyone can have their own view on life but I’m getting you all come at me for my opinion!not really fair is it Life is like that OP. Everyone can voice their opinion on a public thread and I’ve voiced mine but I’m a bigot "If that is so then it will be clear for all to read. Because the interweb is forever. You say what you want to say and others will do the same | |||
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"I’m a bigot for having my opinion?I’ve said multiple times that everyone can have their own view on life but I’m getting you all come at me for my opinion!not really fair is it Life is like that OP. Everyone can voice their opinion on a public thread and I’ve voiced mine but I’m a bigot
People are allowed to have opinions about other people's opinions. "but just not allowed to go against your opinion | |||
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"Load of cr*p" That’s exactly what we’re thinking too. | |||
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"Load of cr*p Drink some water before you nod off, you might have a headache in the morning." maybe a headache but not deluded | |||
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"I’m a bigot for having my opinion?I’ve said multiple times that everyone can have their own view on life but I’m getting you all come at me for my opinion!not really fair is it Life is like that OP. Everyone can voice their opinion on a public thread and I’ve voiced mine but I’m a bigot
People are allowed to have opinions about other people's opinions. but just not allowed to go against your opinion "I didn't say that, did I? You have an opinion. My opinion about your opinion is that it's codswallop. Your opinion about my opinion seems to be that you think I'm censoring you. My opinion is that people don't the difference between censorship and criticism. | |||
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"I’m a bigot for having my opinion?I’ve said multiple times that everyone can have their own view on life but I’m getting you all come at me for my opinion!not really fair is it Life is like that OP. Everyone can voice their opinion on a public thread and I’ve voiced mine but I’m a bigot
People are allowed to have opinions about other people's opinions. but just not allowed to go against your opinion "People are simply pointing out the gaping and obvious ignorance in your very low understanding of the subject matter. I would advise that you do some reading, a touch of research and then take a lie down | |||
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"Load of cr*p Drink some water before you nod off, you might have a headache in the morning.maybe a headache but not deluded" No, just stupid | |||
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"Don't know the difference, even "so you’re telling me that if I want to identify as a cat then s cat | |||
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"Don't know the difference, even so you’re telling me that if I want to identify as a cat then s cat"A cat isn’t a gender | |||
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"Don't know the difference, even so you’re telling me that if I want to identify as a cat then s cat
A cat isn’t a gender"so what genders are they | |||
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"Don't know the difference, even so you’re telling me that if I want to identify as a cat then s cat"Please point to where I said that. I said gender is a social construct and biological sex isn't that simple either. Gender is an expression based on human norms. I'm not sure how anyone could get from human norms to "cat". (Unless they've heard that stupid story about kitty litter in American schools. Unfortunately, that's to deal with school shootings, not flamboyant childhood experimentation) | |||
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"Don't know the difference, even so you’re telling me that if I want to identify as a cat then s cat
A cat isn’t a genderso what genders are they "Is your Google broken? I’m not doing this for you | |||
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"Don't know the difference, even so you’re telling me that if I want to identify as a cat then s cat
Please point to where I said that.
I said gender is a social construct and biological sex isn't that simple either.
Gender is an expression based on human norms. I'm not sure how anyone could get from human norms to "cat". (Unless they've heard that stupid story about kitty litter in American schools. Unfortunately, that's to deal with school shootings, not flamboyant childhood experimentation)"im asking what genders are there except the 2 I know | |||
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"Don't know the difference, even so you’re telling me that if I want to identify as a cat then s cat
Please point to where I said that.
I said gender is a social construct and biological sex isn't that simple either.
Gender is an expression based on human norms. I'm not sure how anyone could get from human norms to "cat". (Unless they've heard that stupid story about kitty litter in American schools. Unfortunately, that's to deal with school shootings, not flamboyant childhood experimentation)im asking what genders are there except the 2 I know"That isn't what you asked. You asked "so you’re telling me that if I want to identify as a cat then s cat" | |||
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"So I know of men and women so please tell me what else is out there" Do. A. Google. Search. | |||
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"So I know of men and women so please tell me what else is out there" You know the answers, you refuse to accept. So why bother? | |||
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"So I know of men and women so please tell me what else is out there" It's probably not a subject that is conducive to intoxication and boredom. | |||
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"Yes men and women then there’s men that want to be women and women that want to be men " If you believe you know the answers, and appear to be unable to engage in the serious answers that have been given, then what is the point of this exercise? | |||
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"Yes men and women then there’s men that want to be women and women that want to be men " Does the sand not get in your ears and nose? | |||
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"So I know of men and women so please tell me what else is out there It's probably not a subject that is conducive to intoxication and boredom." Absolutely | |||
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"I’m willing to fill this thread up with posts of ‘do a Google search. Simply because you already know the answers and are refusing to do anything because you want to agitate and troll" you can’t tell me because you know I’m right | |||
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"So I know of men and women so please tell me what else is out there It's probably not a subject that is conducive to intoxication and boredom. Absolutely " Also 15-20 years ago wants its argument back about cats and dogs  | |||
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"Yes men and women then there’s men that want to be women and women that want to be men If you believe you know the answers, and appear to be unable to engage in the serious answers that have been given, then what is the point of this exercise?" Who’s trip tropping over my bridge? | |||
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"I’m a bigot for having my opinion?I’ve said multiple times that everyone can have their own view on life but I’m getting you all come at me for my opinion!not really fair is it " Oh noes! He's getting all attacked just for having an opinion. Aw dude. You ok hun? DM me. | |||
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"Yes men and women then there’s men that want to be women and women that want to be men If you believe you know the answers, and appear to be unable to engage in the serious answers that have been given, then what is the point of this exercise?" no answers have been given..I’ve asked what genders there are and all I get is Google it | |||
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"I’m willing to fill this thread up with posts of ‘do a Google search. Simply because you already know the answers and are refusing to do anything because you want to agitate and troll you can’t tell me because you know I’m right " I told you above why even biological sex isn't as simple as male and female. You didn't even engage. You've only engaged to turn human expression into a stale line about cats. The internet has all the answers you seek, not just targets for your bile. | |||
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"I’m willing to fill this thread up with posts of ‘do a Google search. Simply because you already know the answers and are refusing to do anything because you want to agitate and troll you can’t tell me because you know I’m right "
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"Yes men and women then there’s men that want to be women and women that want to be men If you believe you know the answers, and appear to be unable to engage in the serious answers that have been given, then what is the point of this exercise?no answers have been given..I’ve asked what genders there are and all I get is Google it" I'll quote what I wrote half an hour ago, in case you missed it. I'm of the view that gender is socially constructed, but so too is biological sex simplified. There are a number of people whose genes and physical structure do not conform to typically female or typically male. People with F on their birth certificate with internal testes, people with three sex chromosomes, and more besides. It might be simpler to tell small children that there are only boys and girls. It may even be easier for tiny, undeveloped minds to understand. But taking a cursory look at the reality of human physiology, we find out it's bollocks. | |||
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"Yes men and women then there’s men that want to be women and women that want to be men If you believe you know the answers, and appear to be unable to engage in the serious answers that have been given, then what is the point of this exercise?no answers have been given..I’ve asked what genders there are and all I get is Google it" So… why don’t you? | |||
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"I’m willing to fill this thread up with posts of ‘do a Google search. Simply because you already know the answers and are refusing to do anything because you want to agitate and troll you can’t tell me because you know I’m right I told you above why even biological sex isn't as simple as male and female. You didn't even engage. You've only engaged to turn human expression into a stale line about cats. The internet has all the answers you seek, not just targets for your bile." you said it yourself male and female | |||
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"Personally I believe only two genders exist but I believe everyone lives in there own little bubble and if you want to be something els fair play but with the most respect don’t expect others to haft to agree with your choice if that makes Sence "No it doesn’t. Please take a look at gender vs sex | |||
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"I’m willing to fill this thread up with posts of ‘do a Google search. Simply because you already know the answers and are refusing to do anything because you want to agitate and troll you can’t tell me because you know I’m right I told you above why even biological sex isn't as simple as male and female. You didn't even engage. You've only engaged to turn human expression into a stale line about cats. The internet has all the answers you seek, not just targets for your bile.you said it yourself male and female" Did you miss the lesson on the meaning of the word "not", or the one about its abbreviation with an inverted comma? | |||
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"I’m willing to fill this thread up with posts of ‘do a Google search. Simply because you already know the answers and are refusing to do anything because you want to agitate and troll you can’t tell me because you know I’m right I told you above why even biological sex isn't as simple as male and female. You didn't even engage. You've only engaged to turn human expression into a stale line about cats. The internet has all the answers you seek, not just targets for your bile.you said it yourself male and female Did you miss the lesson on the meaning of the word "not", or the one about its abbreviation with an inverted comma?" I think he's missed every lesson beyond how to attain universal contempt. | |||
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"I’m willing to fill this thread up with posts of ‘do a Google search. Simply because you already know the answers and are refusing to do anything because you want to agitate and troll you can’t tell me because you know I’m right I told you above why even biological sex isn't as simple as male and female. You didn't even engage. You've only engaged to turn human expression into a stale line about cats. The internet has all the answers you seek, not just targets for your bile.you said it yourself male and female Did you miss the lesson on the meaning of the word "not", or the one about its abbreviation with an inverted comma? I think he's missed every lesson beyond how to attain universal contempt." I half suspect that he's the class clown who shouted over my high school teacher "nuh uh, god did it, stop wasting my time" | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it" Funny how the holders of the truth always back down to "it's just my opinion" and "I have a right to be rude to people who don't conform to my ideas of the world" On my planet I call people what they want to be called. I'm not conforming to anything other than basic manners | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it" So as well as gender vs sex. There is also opinion vs fact. Try to keep up. It's more fun | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it And you've chosen to be... this? Ouch." I’ve chosen to be a male | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it And you've chosen to be... this? Ouch.I’ve chosen to be a male " I actually have no words. | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it Funny how the holders of the truth always back down to "it's just my opinion" and "I have a right to be rude to people who don't conform to my ideas of the world" On my planet I call people what they want to be called. I'm not conforming to anything other than basic manners " I’ve not been rude..it’s all you lot that have been rude for not agreeing with your views | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it So as well as gender vs sex. There is also opinion vs fact. Try to keep up. It's more fun" There is also cat versus dog. Meow. | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it Funny how the holders of the truth always back down to "it's just my opinion" and "I have a right to be rude to people who don't conform to my ideas of the world" On my planet I call people what they want to be called. I'm not conforming to anything other than basic manners I’ve not been rude..it’s all you lot that have been rude for not agreeing with your views " What does it mean to "not follow it", then? Every time I've seen someone say they won't follow ideas of gender, it usually involves not calling trans people by their chosen names. I'm not trans, but if I introduced myself as Peter or Petunia or even Pfizer, it would be rude to call me anything else. Even if you believe that my name is not any of those. You'd be correct, but you'd also be rude. | |||
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"All opinions are welcome I respect your beliefs and I would like to think you have no problem with my beliefs "People may believe as they choose, as long as they treat others with the same respect and dignity that they demand for themselves. | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it Funny how the holders of the truth always back down to "it's just my opinion" and "I have a right to be rude to people who don't conform to my ideas of the world" On my planet I call people what they want to be called. I'm not conforming to anything other than basic manners I’ve not been rude..it’s all you lot that have been rude for not agreeing with your views What does it mean to "not follow it", then? Every time I've seen someone say they won't follow ideas of gender, it usually involves not calling trans people by their chosen names. I'm not trans, but if I introduced myself as Peter or Petunia or even Pfizer, it would be rude to call me anything else. Even if you believe that my name is not any of those. You'd be correct, but you'd also be rude." if I met you and you told me your name I’d call you that | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it" So… this isn’t fact, it’s your opinion? What even is this thread about? Do you know the difference between reality and fiction? That’s probably a good place to start before we get into opinion and fact | |||
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"All opinions are welcome I respect your beliefs and I would like to think you have no problem with my beliefs
People may believe as they choose, as long as they treat others with the same respect and dignity that they demand for themselves."you’ve not respected my beliefs | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it Funny how the holders of the truth always back down to "it's just my opinion" and "I have a right to be rude to people who don't conform to my ideas of the world" On my planet I call people what they want to be called. I'm not conforming to anything other than basic manners I’ve not been rude..it’s all you lot that have been rude for not agreeing with your views What does it mean to "not follow it", then? Every time I've seen someone say they won't follow ideas of gender, it usually involves not calling trans people by their chosen names. I'm not trans, but if I introduced myself as Peter or Petunia or even Pfizer, it would be rude to call me anything else. Even if you believe that my name is not any of those. You'd be correct, but you'd also be rude.if I met you and you told me your name I’d call you that" So what do you mean by "not following it"? | |||
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"Op, have you not made any attempt to Google 'genders' and to understand the difference between biological sex and gender? Google it man (or cat)." I don’t need to google it | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it So… this isn’t fact, it’s your opinion? What even is this thread about? Do you know the difference between reality and fiction? That’s probably a good place to start before we get into opinion and fact" BACKED UP SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME THOUGH!!! | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it Funny how the holders of the truth always back down to "it's just my opinion" and "I have a right to be rude to people who don't conform to my ideas of the world" On my planet I call people what they want to be called. I'm not conforming to anything other than basic manners I’ve not been rude..it’s all you lot that have been rude for not agreeing with your views What does it mean to "not follow it", then? Every time I've seen someone say they won't follow ideas of gender, it usually involves not calling trans people by their chosen names. I'm not trans, but if I introduced myself as Peter or Petunia or even Pfizer, it would be rude to call me anything else. Even if you believe that my name is not any of those. You'd be correct, but you'd also be rude.if I met you and you told me your name I’d call you that" If you feel that, then why would you question what they told you their gender was or their pronouns? How is that different? Is it because you think that you know better than a person knows themself? | |||
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"All opinions are welcome I respect your beliefs and I would like to think you have no problem with my beliefs
People may believe as they choose, as long as they treat others with the same respect and dignity that they demand for themselves.you’ve not respected my beliefs "I've disagreed with your beliefs. I don't expect anyone to automatically agree with me. I make my case, knowing that people will make theirs. I respect your right to hold beliefs, even if I think they're steaming horse shit. I respect your identity, and expect that you would demand respect for your identity. I ultimately don't care if you believe someone's identity or not, as long as you show their choices the same respect you expect for your own. | |||
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"Op, have you not made any attempt to Google 'genders' and to understand the difference between biological sex and gender? Google it man (or cat).I don’t need to google it" Then why are you asking? | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it So… this isn’t fact, it’s your opinion? What even is this thread about? Do you know the difference between reality and fiction? That’s probably a good place to start before we get into opinion and fact BACKED UP SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME THOUGH!!!" well how was you conceived?by a man and a woman just like every person ever born | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it So… this isn’t fact, it’s your opinion? What even is this thread about? Do you know the difference between reality and fiction? That’s probably a good place to start before we get into opinion and fact BACKED UP SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME THOUGH!!!well how was you conceived?by a man and a woman just like every person ever born" Bad joke, deleted. | |||
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"All opinions are welcome I respect your beliefs and I would like to think you have no problem with my beliefs
People may believe as they choose, as long as they treat others with the same respect and dignity that they demand for themselves.you’ve not respected my beliefs "Make your mind up, opinions or beliefs? Facts or opinions? You’re getting all kinds of muddled up in your own rhetoric here. Have you thought about going back to the subreddit that you saw this on and double checking your source? | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it So… this isn’t fact, it’s your opinion? What even is this thread about? Do you know the difference between reality and fiction? That’s probably a good place to start before we get into opinion and fact BACKED UP SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME THOUGH!!!well how was you conceived?by a man and a woman just like every person ever born" ... What on God's green earth does any of this have to do with gender? My best friend doesn't have a uterus. She cannot have children. She was born with all the female parts except that. If gender is about reproduction now, what is she? | |||
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"I don’t believe in Jesus but didn’t he have Mary as a mother and Joseph as a father?" If the bible is true, then he waa adoptwd by Joseph essentially. But, bad joke and I apologise for the bad taste of it. | |||
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"I don’t believe in Jesus but didn’t he have Mary as a mother and Joseph as a father?" I don't believe in Athena, but she was the virgin mother of Athenians, who sprung out of the earth after Hephaestus spunked and missed. Aphrodite was born after an unfortunate accident with a knife and a penis So the fuck what | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it So… this isn’t fact, it’s your opinion? What even is this thread about? Do you know the difference between reality and fiction? That’s probably a good place to start before we get into opinion and fact still a woman BACKED UP SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME THOUGH!!!well how was you conceived?by a man and a woman just like every person ever born ... What on God's green earth does any of this have to do with gender? My best friend doesn't have a uterus. She cannot have children. She was born with all the female parts except that. If gender is about reproduction now, what is she?" | |||
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"Look my opinion is my opinion..you can be whatever you want just don’t expect me to follow it So… this isn’t fact, it’s your opinion? What even is this thread about? Do you know the difference between reality and fiction? That’s probably a good place to start before we get into opinion and fact BACKED UP SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME THOUGH!!!well how was you conceived?by a man and a woman just like every person ever born ... What on God's green earth does any of this have to do with gender? My best friend doesn't have a uterus. She cannot have children. She was born with all the female parts except that. If gender is about reproduction now, what is she? still a woman " Ok, then what the fuck does reproduction have to do with anything? | |||
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"I don’t believe in Jesus but didn’t he have Mary as a mother and Joseph as a father?" Mate, Jesus is an historical fact, look up contemporary historians such as Josephus. You may not believe in the virgin birth, but at least try some realistic historical research. As with gender, Google might be your friend for Josephus and Jesus. | |||
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"I don’t believe in Jesus but didn’t he have Mary as a mother and Joseph as a father? Mate, Jesus is an historical fact, look up contemporary historians such as Josephus. You may not believe in the virgin birth, but at least try some realistic historical research. As with gender, Google might be your friend for Josephus and Jesus." Oh man, don't make you get all ancient history nerd on your arse. That shit is a forgery | |||
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"You either have a penis or a vagina..x and Y chromosomes or x x" Yeah... That's what it says in the Ladybird Book Of Human Biology. The one with simple pictures, written for 6 to 8 year olds. But if you look at the more advanced books you find out that things are a lot more complicated. For a start, there's about a dozen different combinations of X and Y chromosomes that can be present in humans. Yes, the most frequent ones are XX and XY. But there's something like 1% of people that are things like XXY, XYY, XXYY, XXX. And some variants of the chromosome that are neither a clean X or a clean Y. Then various hormone imbalances in the mother, or exposure to environmental chemicals, can affect the development of the baby so that it's sexual development does not follow the majority male or female patterns, regardless of its chromosomes. And when you say "yes, but it's just a thing that happens so rarely that we can ignore it", it's actually about 1% of the global population. That's about 100 million people. For comparison, there are more people with minority sexes than there are true redheads. If you declare that minority sexes don't exist because they're well, a minority, then you have to also declare that there's no such thing as a redhead. The big difference between minority sexes and red hair is that redheads have it on show, but minority sexes (like majority sexes) tend to wear clothes... | |||
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"This chat is really heated isn’t it haha let’s all just relax a bit at the end of the day who actually cares what everyone els thinks right? "I'm having fun just like this, thank you | |||
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"This chat is really heated isn’t it haha let’s all just relax a bit at the end of the day who actually cares what everyone els thinks right? "When its dangerous thoughts and opinions that have the potential to harm others, me. I care. | |||
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"I don’t believe in Jesus but didn’t he have Mary as a mother and Joseph as a father? Mate, Jesus is an historical fact, look up contemporary historians such as Josephus. You may not believe in the virgin birth, but at least try some realistic historical research. As with gender, Google might be your friend for Josephus and Jesus. Oh man, don't make you get all ancient history nerd on your arse. That shit is a forgery "Sorry, Joseph's is not. He is a credible historian. I was not conflating the 'virgin birth' with the veracity of an historical Jesus. | |||
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"This chat is really heated isn’t it haha let’s all just relax a bit at the end of the day who actually cares what everyone els thinks right?
When its dangerous thoughts and opinions that have the potential to harm others, me. I care."I care in real life. Here, I'm just swatting away at silliness. Most people are not this bolshy in real life, and will default to basic manners. | |||
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"This chat is really heated isn’t it haha let’s all just relax a bit at the end of the day who actually cares what everyone els thinks right?
When it’s dangerous thoughts and opinions that have the potential to harm others, me. I care."I’ve said I don’t care what everyone does they can do what they want | |||
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"I don’t believe in Jesus but didn’t he have Mary as a mother and Joseph as a father? Mate, Jesus is an historical fact, look up contemporary historians such as Josephus. You may not believe in the virgin birth, but at least try some realistic historical research. As with gender, Google might be your friend for Josephus and Jesus. Oh man, don't make you get all ancient history nerd on your arse. That shit is a forgery
Sorry, Joseph's is not. He is a credible historian. I was not conflating the 'virgin birth' with the veracity of an historical Jesus."Josephus is a real historian. A Jewish historian. The section about Jesus is written in language that Christians, not Jews, would use to speak about him. The passage has been inserted later. | |||
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"This chat is really heated isn’t it haha let’s all just relax a bit at the end of the day who actually cares what everyone els thinks right?
When it’s dangerous thoughts and opinions that have the potential to harm others, me. I care.I’ve said I don’t care what everyone does they can do what they want"Then what was the point of this thread? | |||
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"This chat is really heated isn’t it haha let’s all just relax a bit at the end of the day who actually cares what everyone els thinks right? "Actually, those people that are being ignored, misgendered or generally maligned. | |||
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"To argue I suppose " I wish we argued more about stuff that had less scary consequences for marginalised groups. Try pineapple on pizza. Or the historical record for the existence of Jesus | |||
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"To argue I suppose I wish we argued more about stuff that had less scary consequences for marginalised groups. Try pineapple on pizza. Or the historical record for the existence of Jesus "Yes! Let’s get back to persecuting Christians | |||
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"To argue I suppose I wish we argued more about stuff that had less scary consequences for marginalised groups. Try pineapple on pizza. Or the historical record for the existence of Jesus
Yes! Let’s get back to persecuting Christians"Lol nah, my interest is purely academic. It's cool that we can tell what parts of ancient texts were altered as they were copied by hand over thousands of years. | |||
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"To argue I suppose I wish we argued more about stuff that had less scary consequences for marginalised groups. Try pineapple on pizza. Or the historical record for the existence of Jesus
Yes! Let’s get back to persecuting Christians
Lol nah, my interest is purely academic.
It's cool that we can tell what parts of ancient texts were altered as they were copied by hand over thousands of years."I know. Deuteronomic editor has a very clear style. I was thinking more about lions and amphitheatres. Proper old school | |||
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"What would Jesus do about a minority maligned by the populus and the powers that be? "Be on their side, after all he was "a friend of tax collectors and sinners" | |||
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"Has the OP fallen asleep? Or are they finally looking up gender in Google? More likely that they watched the England football match highlights and fell asleep " Perhaps they did a quick sequencing of their own DNA and discovered (like about 1% of the population) that they're neither male nor female... Getting proper genetic analysis can be a disturbing surprise for lots of people who think that they know who they are... | |||
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"Has the OP fallen asleep? Or are they finally looking up gender in Google? More likely that they watched the England football match highlights and fell asleep Perhaps they did a quick sequencing of their own DNA and discovered (like about 1% of the population) that they're neither male nor female... Getting proper genetic analysis can be a disturbing surprise for lots of people who think that they know who they are..." I'm imagining Jeff Goldblum in The Fly. | |||
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"What would Jesus do about a minority maligned by the populus and the powers that be?
Be on their side, after all he was "a friend of tax collectors and sinners""Indeed. Ghandi quite liked Christ, not too sure about the Christians. I can see his point at times. (Yes I know, #notall, not a personal comment) | |||
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"To argue I suppose I wish we argued more about stuff that had less scary consequences for marginalised groups. Try pineapple on pizza. Or the historical record for the existence of Jesus
Yes! Let’s get back to persecuting Christians
Lol nah, my interest is purely academic.
It's cool that we can tell what parts of ancient texts were altered as they were copied by hand over thousands of years.
I know. Deuteronomic editor has a very clear style.
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"To argue I suppose I wish we argued more about stuff that had less scary consequences for marginalised groups. Try pineapple on pizza. Or the historical record for the existence of Jesus
Yes! Let’s get back to persecuting Christians
Lol nah, my interest is purely academic.
It's cool that we can tell what parts of ancient texts were altered as they were copied by hand over thousands of years.
I know. Deuteronomic editor has a very clear style.
I was thinking more about lions and amphitheatres. Proper old school
Quite like crucifiction. Also the human flaming torches were novel (clearly to do with the 'cost of living crisis')"I wish I could remember which comedian observed that if Jesus came during the 20th century in America, people would be wearing tiny electric chairs around their necks | |||
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"Literally couldn’t care what is or isn’t in places where sometimes there is or isn’t stuff. As to how many, not really sure, it’s a little confusing at times" I find that treating people how they want to be treated is the best start. After that it's mostly details. | |||
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"To argue I suppose I wish we argued more about stuff that had less scary consequences for marginalised groups. Try pineapple on pizza. Or the historical record for the existence of Jesus
Yes! Let’s get back to persecuting Christians
Lol nah, my interest is purely academic.
It's cool that we can tell what parts of ancient texts were altered as they were copied by hand over thousands of years.
I know. Deuteronomic editor has a very clear style.
I was thinking more about lions and amphitheatres. Proper old school
Quite like crucifiction. Also the human flaming torches were novel (clearly to do with the 'cost of living crisis')
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