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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 23 weeks ago

Chelmsford

https://news.sky.com/story/home-secretary-calls-for-urgent-explanation-as-police-car-is-filmed-running-over-a-cow-13153583

Reports that Police used a new tactic to capture a runaway cow. They rammed the bugger with their police car. Now Tom is a big fan of the police and also a wildlife lover. Could a less extreme tactic have been used? The police car will need repairs and this is public money. If Tom was the Chief of Police he would have found a local cow whisperer. What's going on here? It's all over the news

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By *ermite12ukMan 23 weeks ago

Solihull and Brentwood

Can they not sue the calf who's dented their top of the range Skoda 1.6GL? Askin for a friend.

(Free milk for life for the local police station as a recommended reccompence perhaps?)

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By * F 2018Couple 23 weeks ago

shropshire

It's discusting just seen on sky news .how stupid

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By * F 2018Couple 23 weeks ago

shropshire

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By *arnayguyMan 23 weeks ago

Durham Tees

It was always going to end in a stand off after they spent ten minutes shouting 'MOOOOOOVE!'

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan 23 weeks ago

Sussex

We should all be thankful that the rogue animal wasn't a sheep. -We would be having to put up with headlines about the officers having to make a ewe turn to tackle a ram raider.

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By *ts the taking part thatMan 23 weeks ago

southampton

I think we've all taken a few Cows out in our time.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 23 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Was a bit extreme to be fair

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By *og-ManMan 23 weeks ago

somewhere

They'll probably say the cow had taken some iphones

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By *ex HolesMan 23 weeks ago

Up North

That’s fuck all. I’ve took loads of cows out in the past

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By *reyToTheFairiesWoman 23 weeks ago

Carlisle usually

Tom.

This was on the forums yesterday already.

I don't expect you to be late with the news

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By *ot to giggleWoman 23 weeks ago

Coventry

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

Shpuld of used the udder car rather than damage the new one

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By *ot to giggleWoman 23 weeks ago

Coventry

he had a beef with a guy who had shouted burgers earlier - udderly ridiculous and a slurry on the cow's reputation

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By *lynJMan 23 weeks ago

Morden

It's all over the moos.

I hope this isn't the next step in re-wilding

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan 23 weeks ago

Sussex


"Shpuld of used the udder car rather than damage the new one "

Imagine what the result would have been if the police had used a panda or a jam sandwich

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By *ools and the brainCouple 23 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Is this just extreme cow tipping

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 23 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"It's all over the moos.

I hope this isn't the next step in re-wilding "

Glyn...

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan 23 weeks ago

Torquay

What why no yogurt jokes?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 23 weeks ago

Chelmsford

The men from the Police Chief decided to ram the bugger in their car..

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By *idlandiaMan 23 weeks ago

Birmingham

A policeman hit a cow with a car, how dairy...

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan 23 weeks ago

Sussex

See it from the Police driver's view. He was on the horns of a dilemma.

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By *iberius61Man 23 weeks ago

Pontefract

Yes, but from the article Death and injuries caused by cattle: A forensic overview ...

In the United Kingdom, 74 people were killed by cattle (70% due either to bulls or newly calved cows). This has led cattle to be declared the most dangerous large animal in Britain

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By *ickyKlungespeareMan 23 weeks ago

St Leonards

Did the police car have its blues and moos switched on?

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By *icolerobbieCouple 23 weeks ago

walsall


"The men from the Police Chief decided to ram the bugger in their car..

"

Pull the udder one Tom, it’s got bells on it…

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By *sleWightCoupleCouple 23 weeks ago

Ryde

"The cow just fell down the stairs..."

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By *icolerobbieCouple 23 weeks ago

walsall


""The cow just fell down the stairs...""

This story is being milked now.

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford


"Did the police car have its blues and moos switched on?"

like it sounds like bull though

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford

There was a lot at steak

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By *ickyKlungespeareMan 23 weeks ago

St Leonards


"Did the police car have its blues and moos switched on?

like it sounds like bull though "

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By *icolerobbieCouple 23 weeks ago

walsall


"Did the police car have its blues and moos switched on?

like it sounds like bull though

"

Come on, we’ve “herd” them all before…..

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford


"Did the police car have its blues and moos switched on?

like it sounds like bull though

Come on, we’ve “herd” them all before….."

lol. Did the police point their tazers at it and say

“Freeze-Sian”

some said “not again been here before got the T-shirt got the jersey”

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan 23 weeks ago

Torquay

How now is the run over cow?

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford


"How now is the run over cow?"

It wasn’t over the moon lol

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By *icolerobbieCouple 23 weeks ago

walsall


"How now is the run over cow?"

Apparently it’s outstanding in its field.

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford


"How now is the run over cow?

Apparently it’s outstanding in its field."

lol. Love that. lol.

One lady witness said she couldn’t believe what she was seeing as it ran past-her-eyes.

She made a note in her dairy lol

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By *corpioboyMan 23 weeks ago

Glasgow

I think you’re milking this a bit

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By *ickyKlungespeareMan 23 weeks ago

St Leonards

This whole thread is bullocks.

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford

“Steer” around it.

Was the cow masticating at the time?

Maybe the cow didn’t have the stomachs for it

Need to chew the cud on this one.

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford


"This whole thread is bullocks."

It is a proper yoke isn’t it.

If the old bill just grazed it lol would they say they semi skimmed it?

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By *ickyKlungespeareMan 23 weeks ago

St Leonards


"This whole thread is bullocks.

It is a proper yoke isn’t it.

If the old bill just grazed it lol would they say they semi skimmed it? "

I need a face-palm emoji for that one .

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By *punk n gushCouple 23 weeks ago

Walmer, Deal

Road side burger king now is it

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford


"I think you’re milking this a bit "

Don’t get cheesed off about it. lol.

I couldn’t give E-dam either. lol

It is getting a bit creamed though. lol.

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan 23 weeks ago

Torquay

The police were really after a dish that was running away with a spoon I've heard

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By *icolerobbieCouple 23 weeks ago

walsall


"This whole thread is bullocks.

It is a proper yoke isn’t it.

If the old bill just grazed it lol would they say they semi skimmed it? "

No, they apparently hoofed straight into it.

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford


"This whole thread is bullocks.

It is a proper yoke isn’t it.

If the old bill just grazed it lol would they say they semi skimmed it?

No, they apparently hoofed straight into it. "

Went hell for leather lol

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By *ikeSM23Man 23 weeks ago

Manchester

The fact that police acted in the way they did is frankly disgusting and disgraceful to see. Regardless of the circumstances (and for the record I’m not being a killjoy over this thread and its humour therein) the incident footage sets a piss poor example to society in general. The police driver, now suspended from duty, will hopefully be fully investigated and appropriate action taken if he is found to have breached minimum standards of conduct and care whilst on duty.

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford


"The fact that police acted in the way they did is frankly disgusting and disgraceful to see. Regardless of the circumstances (and for the record I’m not being a killjoy over this thread and its humour therein) the incident footage sets a piss poor example to society in general. The police driver, now suspended from duty, will hopefully be fully investigated and appropriate action taken if he is found to have breached minimum standards of conduct and care whilst on duty. "

I’ve been holding back with my views on this as a few weeks ago in london just round the corner from where I was the man was walking down the road with a samurai sword and the police just sat in the car and didn’t attempt to run him over as apparently they weren’t allowed to and he went on a killed a school child. Disgusting that they can run over an animal but can’t a human animal. It’s unbelievable.

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By *icolerobbieCouple 23 weeks ago

walsall


"This whole thread is bullocks.

It is a proper yoke isn’t it.

If the old bill just grazed it lol would they say they semi skimmed it?

No, they apparently hoofed straight into it.

Went hell for leather lol "

They tanned it’s hide…

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford


"This whole thread is bullocks.

It is a proper yoke isn’t it.

If the old bill just grazed it lol would they say they semi skimmed it?

No, they apparently hoofed straight into it.

Went hell for leather lol

They tanned it’s hide…"

If the policeman goes to court do you think the jury will be suede lol

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford

It made a hole in the road so they had to fillet. Wasn’t very deep so just the top side.

Local farmers are having to be picked out of a loin-up

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By *icolerobbieCouple 23 weeks ago

walsall


"This whole thread is bullocks.

It is a proper yoke isn’t it.

If the old bill just grazed it lol would they say they semi skimmed it?

No, they apparently hoofed straight into it.

Went hell for leather lol

They tanned it’s hide…

If the policeman goes to court do you think the jury will be suede lol "

What’s the sentence ? Dangerous control of a mooving vehicle? As it was Surrey, the case will be herd at leatherhead crown court.

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By *ickie76XXXMan 23 weeks ago

dartford


"This whole thread is bullocks.

It is a proper yoke isn’t it.

If the old bill just grazed it lol would they say they semi skimmed it?

No, they apparently hoofed straight into it.

Went hell for leather lol

They tanned it’s hide…

If the policeman goes to court do you think the jury will be suede lol

What’s the sentence ? Dangerous control of a mooving vehicle? As it was Surrey, the case will be herd at leatherhead crown court."

Rump-ole of the Bale-ly is judge. Hay-hoe. I bet they have a field day. They will make fodder out of the copper.

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By *lynJMan 23 weeks ago

Morden

I think everyone should get a pat on the back for all the humourous posts.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 23 weeks ago

Chelmsford

The police driver has been removed from front line duties pending investigation. Please let's not pre judge and have respect for the families involved at a difficult time.

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By *obandruthCouple 23 weeks ago

wolverhampton

Are they going on a date.

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By *ikeSM23Man 23 weeks ago

Manchester


"The police driver has been removed from front line duties pending investigation. Please let's not pre judge and have respect for the families involved at a difficult time. "

lol who would have thought….. FS forum feed is a media news platform for national consumption.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

And the news from the bbc this afternoon is that the leader of the farming union thinks the police probably did the right thing.

Sometimes there’s more to think about than the initial knee jerk reaction

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By *iberius61Man 23 weeks ago

Pontefract


"And the news from the bbc this afternoon is that the leader of the farming union thinks the police probably did the right thing..."

Did anyone ever think otherwise? I mean other than the gutter press who like to make a drama out of anything and perhaps a few city dwellers who think of a cow as maybe a slightly large dog? What were the alternatives they wanted, shoot it? Maybe they though going up to it and saying there's a good cow, follow me? Cows kill people every year, in the UK. Sure in a field they're generally peaceful, but in a stressful environment it's quite likely to end up killing anyone who goes near it.

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago


"And the news from the bbc this afternoon is that the leader of the farming union thinks the police probably did the right thing...

Did anyone ever think otherwise? I mean other than the gutter press who like to make a drama out of anything and perhaps a few city dwellers who think of a cow as maybe a slightly large dog? What were the alternatives they wanted, shoot it? Maybe they though going up to it and saying there's a good cow, follow me? Cows kill people every year, in the UK. Sure in a field they're generally peaceful, but in a stressful environment it's quite likely to end up killing anyone who goes near it."

You’re absolutely right but in a lot of social media circles I seem to be in, a lot of people were saying how bad it was and how they should have cleared people out of the way until someone could be found with a tranquiliser or something. All ridiculous things really. Of course if they hadn’t have done anything and a person had been charged down it would have been a different story “why oh why didn’t the police do something?” . Damned if they do, damned if they don’t

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan 23 weeks ago

Torquay


"And the news from the bbc this afternoon is that the leader of the farming union thinks the police probably did the right thing...

Did anyone ever think otherwise? I mean other than the gutter press who like to make a drama out of anything and perhaps a few city dwellers who think of a cow as maybe a slightly large dog? What were the alternatives they wanted, shoot it? Maybe they though going up to it and saying there's a good cow, follow me? Cows kill people every year, in the UK. Sure in a field they're generally peaceful, but in a stressful environment it's quite likely to end up killing anyone who goes near it."

I still think if it was half a ton of horse it would be a different reaction

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 23 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"And the news from the bbc this afternoon is that the leader of the farming union thinks the police probably did the right thing...

Did anyone ever think otherwise? I mean other than the gutter press who like to make a drama out of anything and perhaps a few city dwellers who think of a cow as maybe a slightly large dog? What were the alternatives they wanted, shoot it? Maybe they though going up to it and saying there's a good cow, follow me? Cows kill people every year, in the UK. Sure in a field they're generally peaceful, but in a stressful environment it's quite likely to end up killing anyone who goes near it.

I still think if it was half a ton of horse it would be a different reaction "

What is the difference between a cow and a horse?

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By *ob Carpe DiemMan 23 weeks ago

Torquay


"And the news from the bbc this afternoon is that the leader of the farming union thinks the police probably did the right thing...

Did anyone ever think otherwise? I mean other than the gutter press who like to make a drama out of anything and perhaps a few city dwellers who think of a cow as maybe a slightly large dog? What were the alternatives they wanted, shoot it? Maybe they though going up to it and saying there's a good cow, follow me? Cows kill people every year, in the UK. Sure in a field they're generally peaceful, but in a stressful environment it's quite likely to end up killing anyone who goes near it.

I still think if it was half a ton of horse it would be a different reaction

What is the difference between a cow and a horse?"

I don't know we will have to ask Beau Lucy

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

Bucket of feed or feed bag and it wouod of followed to somewhere safe

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By (user no longer on site) 23 weeks ago

Hugh Broom, National Farmers' Union's South East livestock chairman, said while he recognised the situation looked "horrendous", officers' options were limited.

He told BBC Radio Surrey: "While the whole thing looks horrendous, and it is for everyone, they probably did the right thing at the time."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg33v21weg3o

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 23 weeks ago

Chelmsford

A bale of hay and cow feed would have sorted it..

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By *agatoXXXMan 23 weeks ago

Gone and completely forgotten.

Police take out a cow? I don't want to imaging what the offspring of a cow and a pig would look like.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 23 weeks ago

Central

With them engaging with it for several hours, I would assume that they could get RSPCA or vets from further afield, to tranquilise it etc

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By *dbtmTV/TS 23 weeks ago

Petersfield

The police were on a steak out

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By *aul DeUther-OneMan 23 weeks ago

Sussex


"Hugh Broom, National Farmers' Union's South East livestock chairman, said while he recognised the situation looked "horrendous", officers' options were limited.

He told BBC Radio Surrey: "While the whole thing looks horrendous, and it is for everyone, they probably did the right thing at the time."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg33v21weg3o"

Still, I can't help but wonder if the police would have acted differently if it had been a white cow.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 23 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Reports that the investigation into running the car down twice will not be handled by the Independent Office for Police Complaints. The local police will carry out their own investigation. Would it be ok to ram the animal if it were an escaped dog or a horse,?

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By *ust a little bit moreWoman 23 weeks ago

kendal

as a farmer I feel as though I can offer my 2 pence.....

The stirk (so not dully green, but still weighing roughly 100 to 300kg had been loose for 5 hours!

Firstly.....

Why was it allowed to be lose for thay amount of time? Cattle are unpredictable animals, I work with them on a daily basis, I know all our cattle well.... but I still wouldn't trust them, and I certainly wouldn't trust them when or if they are stressed or in a situation like this.....

On those 5 hours thay animal could of potentially hurt a LOT of people!

Like seriously hurt them.

They should of had the situation under control sooner, acted quicker and taken waaaaay more action than they did.

I've seen cattle escape from places like livestock auctions and within 20 minutes they had been shot.

Witch leads nicely to my second point.

Why was a police marksman not present at all in those 5 hours?

the animal should of been dispatched safely and quickly for the safety of the general public and the animal! If the police marksman wasn't available, why wasn't a large animal vet (who deals with cattle on a daily basis and who is trained and can use a dart gun) rung, they are trained for situations like this.

Of not a police marksman, or a vet, why wasn't a licenced slaughterman called for, they have a the 'humane dispatch of any animal' clause on their gun licence,

And where was the farmer who's stirk it was?

That entire situation could of been an absolute blood bath and could of ended so so horrifically, I've been the victim of a disagreement with an animal thay size, and have seen and known many other people who have been seriously injured and worse.

I hope the police have to face the actions of their consequences for allowing the situation to get to the point that it did.

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By *ust a little bit moreWoman 23 weeks ago

kendal


" as a farmer I feel as though I can offer my 2 pence.....

The stirk (so not dully green, but still weighing roughly 100 to 300kg had been loose for 5 hours!

Firstly.....

Why was it allowed to be lose for thay amount of time? Cattle are unpredictable animals, I work with them on a daily basis, I know all our cattle well.... but I still wouldn't trust them, and I certainly wouldn't trust them when or if they are stressed or in a situation like this.....

On those 5 hours thay animal could of potentially hurt a LOT of people!

Like seriously hurt them.

They should of had the situation under control sooner, acted quicker and taken waaaaay more action than they did.

I've seen cattle escape from places like livestock auctions and within 20 minutes they had been shot.

Witch leads nicely to my second point.

Why was a police marksman not present at all in those 5 hours?

the animal should of been dispatched safely and quickly for the safety of the general public and the animal! If the police marksman wasn't available, why wasn't a large animal vet (who deals with cattle on a daily basis and who is trained and can use a dart gun) rung, they are trained for situations like this.

Of not a police marksman, or a vet, why wasn't a licenced slaughterman called for, they have a the 'humane dispatch of any animal' clause on their gun licence,

And where was the farmer who's stirk it was?

That entire situation could of been an absolute blood bath and could of ended so so horrifically, I've been the victim of a disagreement with an animal thay size, and have seen and known many other people who have been seriously injured and worse.

I hope the police have to face the actions of their consequences for allowing the situation to get to the point that it did."

Hands down the most garbled comment I've ever written, I mean

Its not fully grown,

And that the police should have to face the consequences especially of their actions....

It's been a long 24hrs.

I need more sleep!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 23 weeks ago

Chelmsford


" as a farmer I feel as though I can offer my 2 pence.....

The stirk (so not dully green, but still weighing roughly 100 to 300kg had been loose for 5 hours!

Firstly.....

Why was it allowed to be lose for thay amount of time? Cattle are unpredictable animals, I work with them on a daily basis, I know all our cattle well.... but I still wouldn't trust them, and I certainly wouldn't trust them when or if they are stressed or in a situation like this.....

On those 5 hours thay animal could of potentially hurt a LOT of people!

Like seriously hurt them.

They should of had the situation under control sooner, acted quicker and taken waaaaay more action than they did.

I've seen cattle escape from places like livestock auctions and within 20 minutes they had been shot.

Witch leads nicely to my second point.

Why was a police marksman not present at all in those 5 hours?

the animal should of been dispatched safely and quickly for the safety of the general public and the animal! If the police marksman wasn't available, why wasn't a large animal vet (who deals with cattle on a daily basis and who is trained and can use a dart gun) rung, they are trained for situations like this.

Of not a police marksman, or a vet, why wasn't a licenced slaughterman called for, they have a the 'humane dispatch of any animal' clause on their gun licence,

And where was the farmer who's stirk it was?

That entire situation could of been an absolute blood bath and could of ended so so horrifically, I've been the victim of a disagreement with an animal thay size, and have seen and known many other people who have been seriously injured and worse.

I hope the police have to face the actions of their consequences for allowing the situation to get to the point that it did.

Hands down the most garbled comment I've ever written, I mean

Its not fully grown,

And that the police should have to face the consequences especially of their actions....

It's been a long 24hrs.

I need more sleep!"

Tom is going with the farmer on this one. Lots of armchair cattle experts here and a dairy farmer knows more about cows than Tom ever will.

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