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Should they ban energy drinks to children?
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By *hagTonight OP Man 29 weeks ago
From the land of haribos. |
I read an article about it and there the labour leader starmer revealed their plan to introduce a ban on the sale on high caffeine drinks to children aged under 16, even jamie oliver have backed his plan and described it as "really exciting", on the list of the products to ban was the monster one, it was high up on the list.
He added that which I agree on is, how the caffeine content in these products effect childrens behaviors, he added if they talk to anyone who is in a school they will tell you what the problem is.
To much caffeine causes things like disruptions in sleep, an increased risk of adhd, anxiety and changes in mood, to name somo of the side effects.
What is your view of it and do you also agree with starmers concern about it, also, if you are a parent have you noticed those effects too, if they have to much of it? |
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Tbh I thought the sale to under 16's was banned already.
While I do drink the occasional one I understand the effects they can have hence why I drink them when I do.
For a child I can't see any positive effects they would gain.
They should be banned for under 16's but personally I think it's a strange vote winning pledge.
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By *ka OMBMan 29 weeks ago
Wigan/Warrington/St Helens ish |
I agree. Not sure that these drinks cause ADHD/anxiety etc as my understanding is those conditions are generally already there, but they exacerbate already present conditions in children no doubt |
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I never understood those kids on the street with their bloody energy drinks.
You don’t need them, YOU HAVE YOUTH.
I never needed them.
Too much late night gaming, that’s your problem!
Aaaaaah, I’ve turned into my Dad!!! |
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"You can't buy them around here if you're under 16 I thought it was the same throughout the country."
It’s not law though. Just the choice of certain retailers.
No I don’t think they should be banned. Controlled yes. Banned no. And no I don’t think they should be able to sell them in 500ml cans. That’s way too much caffeine and sugar for anyone. Not just kids |
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I believe it's to try and enforce it on small local shops. The big chains already restrict the purchase.
Also it's not just the caffeine that's the issue, it's the amount of sugar contained and the resulting increase we're seeing with type 2 diabetes in younger people.
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"I agree. Not sure that these drinks cause ADHD/anxiety etc as my understanding is those conditions are generally already there, but they exacerbate already present conditions in children no doubt "
I was talking with my work colleague the other day whose son has ADHD and he said if his son has one of those drinks batten down the hatches and run for cover,he goes ape shit apparently.
Obviously he doesn't allow him to have them.
Personally I think they should be banned full stop regardless of age.
The sugar content is obscene and type 2 diabetes is a health crisis these drinks are definitely compounding the issue not to mention the caffeine content and the chemicals.
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By *929Man 29 weeks ago
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"I never understood those kids on the street with their bloody energy drinks.
You don’t need them, YOU HAVE YOUTH.
I never needed them.
Too much late night gaming, that’s your problem!
Aaaaaah, I’ve turned into my Dad!!! "
Haha full agree mate |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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Kids don't need energy drinks or Fizzy drinks at all.
What's happened to the days of eating a whole packet of Loveheart sweets to send you loopy for the hour. |
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"I agree. Not sure that these drinks cause ADHD/anxiety etc as my understanding is those conditions are generally already there, but they exacerbate already present conditions in children no doubt
I was talking with my work colleague the other day whose son has ADHD and he said if his son has one of those drinks batten down the hatches and run for cover,he goes ape shit apparently.
Obviously he doesn't allow him to have them.
Personally I think they should be banned full stop regardless of age.
The sugar content is obscene and type 2 diabetes is a health crisis these drinks are definitely compounding the issue not to mention the caffeine content and the chemicals.
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That's weird, most people with ADHD use caffeine as self medication as it releases dopamine in the brain so helps regulate the brain chemistry, I have ADHD and caffeine makes me sleepy. |
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Yes, saw a child drinking a can of it on his way to school this morning, he was trailing behind his mother/carer/“responsible” adult. I think such drinks should definitely have an age limit and how much sugar, caffeine, artificial ingredients should be the most prominent information on the can |
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By (user no longer on site) 29 weeks ago
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I don't really care, Overall I agree but at the end of the day it should be the parents' job to encourage their kids to eat and drink the right things. The government shouldn't have to be the nanny, there's also a lot of other unhealthy stuff children consume, like and sweets but we're not going to ban that are we? |
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I'm not convinced that caffeine increases the risk of ADHD. The causes are not completely understood but as far as I'm aware it's considered genetic.
Stimulants are used to treat ADHD and caffeine is often a self-medication for people who are undiagnosed, hence can't get access to medications that are often scheduled - a GP won't prescribe them.
It's debatable whether caffeine is overall a positive stimulant for someone with ADHD but taking that away from them, without providing an effective alternative isn't ideal, in my opinion. Allowing GPs to prescribe better alternatives would be a more progressive step and improving access to referrals and diagnosis with specialists.
I do believe caffeine can exacerbate anxiety but so can trying to cope with ADHD without stimulant medication.
Education so people can make informed decisions for themselves, rather than prohibition, is my personal preference. A gillick competent child can make medical decisions for themselves, a 16 year old certainly can.
So no I don't agree and I don't think it ought to be a parents decision above 16 either. |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 29 weeks ago
From the land of haribos. |
"Tbh I thought the sale to under 16's was banned already.
While I do drink the occasional one I understand the effects they can have hence why I drink them when I do.
For a child I can't see any positive effects they would gain.
They should be banned for under 16's but personally I think it's a strange vote winning pledge.
Marc" Yes, you are right there, there wouldnt be any positive effects they would gain from it |
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"I agree. Not sure that these drinks cause ADHD/anxiety etc as my understanding is those conditions are generally already there, but they exacerbate already present conditions in children no doubt
I was talking with my work colleague the other day whose son has ADHD and he said if his son has one of those drinks batten down the hatches and run for cover,he goes ape shit apparently.
Obviously he doesn't allow him to have them.
Personally I think they should be banned full stop regardless of age.
The sugar content is obscene and type 2 diabetes is a health crisis these drinks are definitely compounding the issue not to mention the caffeine content and the chemicals.
That's weird, most people with ADHD use caffeine as self medication as it releases dopamine in the brain so helps regulate the brain chemistry, I have ADHD and caffeine makes me sleepy."
Only saying what he told me.
I'd imagine as per my post it's probably more to do with sugar and chemicals.
And surely not everyone is the same after all isn't everyone always saying how different we all are these days? |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 29 weeks ago
From the land of haribos. |
"Yes, saw a child drinking a can of it on his way to school this morning, he was trailing behind his mother/carer/“responsible” adult. I think such drinks should definitely have an age limit and how much sugar, caffeine, artificial ingredients should be the most prominent information on the can" Yes, you are right there, such drinks should have an age limit too |
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Plain aluminium tins, of no more than 100ml,from behind the counter I think.
God, at this rate, the whole supermarket will be behind the counter.
Clickbait rules in this election.
Get on to more serious stuff. |
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Starmer politicising something which is already law ; when is the cheap vote going to realise that we are ( even more ) fucked with him and Rayner - not to mention Diane Abbot in charge .
Tory’s are weak too . No strong leaders out there and we are run by the media.
This is going to cause extremism like France ; it’s going to go Pete Tong ! |
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"Starmer politicising something which is already law ; when is the cheap vote going to realise that we are ( even more ) fucked with him and Rayner - not to mention Diane Abbot in charge .
Tory’s are weak too . No strong leaders out there and we are run by the media.
This is going to cause extremism like France ; it’s going to go Pete Tong ! "
It's not already law. |
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It doesn't affect me massively, but I'd support it. Bans are extreme measures, but they do change behavior.
We shouldn't want our under-16s (or anyone really!) stuffing themselves silly on drinks full of caffeine and sugar - you'd hope parents/carers would ensure their young people didn't overdose, but they can't be there all the time so a ban would stop school-children buying 7 cans of Monster at break time. Can't be a bad thing. |
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By *4bimMan 29 weeks ago
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i think in years to come people will start having serious health issues due to the comsumption of these energy drinks.
poor eyesight and various heart conditions being two. just remember all the sports stars etc who are taking money from these companies to promote it.
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"Starmer politicising something which is already law ; when is the cheap vote going to realise that we are ( even more ) fucked with him and Rayner - not to mention Diane Abbot in charge .
Tory’s are weak too . No strong leaders out there and we are run by the media.
This is going to cause extremism like France ; it’s going to go Pete Tong ! "
It is definitely NOT law already. As I’ve said quite a few times above ^^
And yes this is talking as someone who does actually know for sure |
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Supermarkets put a VOLUNTARY ban in place that restricts the sales of energy drinks to under 16’s. Hence the experiences at the tills.
There’s nothing to stop other retailers selling it to kids……yet.
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My daughter had a problem with the blue Smarties.
She was quite young and knew they affected her, so she picked them out if anyone bought her a tube.
Unfortunately, not all children can self-govern like that,so I agree that children shouldn't drink energy drinks.
I think all energy drinks should be banned.
I drink way too much Lucozade and have very little self control so I need the Government to do it for me.
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By *CBoyTV/TS 29 weeks ago
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When I was first told I had type 2 diabetes and needed to cut down on sugar and cards it suddenly opened my eyes to all the unhealthy "food" items sold in supermarkets. Excluding fresh produce nearly every packet and tinned food contains sugars and chemicals to keep them from going off. High caffeine drinks are nothing compared to the rows dedicated to fizzy drinks and crisps. |
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