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"Oh cripes and golly crumbs trousers. Should the affable fool - for it is he - be our next prime minister? " No bloody way | |||
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"We've had plenty of fools in the past so one more cannot do any more harm" BoJo isn't a fool. He is disarmingly charming and manages to get people to think he is a bumbling idiot but his ideology and policies are more right wing than anything we have seen from this government. | |||
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"why not? the countries fucked!! so why not put a clown at the helm what damage could he possibly do now "we already have one  | |||
"Nope. Imagine a picture of him with all the world leaders. He'd look a spaz." Quite a lot of people around the world already think he is PM as he has a higher international profile than Cameron. | |||
"why not? the countries fucked!! so why not put a clown at the helm what damage could he possibly do now
we already have one "exactly so another cant make it any worse  | |||
"We've had plenty of fools in the past so one more cannot do any more harm BoJo isn't a fool. He is disarmingly charming and manages to get people to think he is a bumbling idiot but his ideology and policies are more right wing than anything we have seen from this government." Absolutely correct, a very contrived persona to disguise some alarming beliefs and ideals. | |||
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"Nope. Imagine a picture of him with all the world leaders. He'd look a spaz. Quite a lot of people around the world already think he is PM as he has a higher international profile than Cameron." So that's a good reason to have him as PM? No it's not. | |||
"We've had plenty of fools in the past so one more cannot do any more harm BoJo isn't a fool. He is disarmingly charming and manages to get people to think he is a bumbling idiot but his ideology and policies are more right wing than anything we have seen from this government. Absolutely correct, a very contrived persona to disguise some alarming beliefs and ideals." Not sure he has ever tried to hide his beliefs and ideals, unlike Dave who tries to make you believe he is the hug a hoody likeable guy when the reality is he is just to the right of Genghis Khana and still moving further right! | |||
"Nope. Imagine a picture of him with all the world leaders. He'd look a spaz. Quite a lot of people around the world already think he is PM as he has a higher international profile than Cameron. So that's a good reason to have him as PM? No it's not. " I'm not saying it's a good reason but it will be one of the ways he secures support for himself, particularly with those with an eye to business outside of the UK. | |||
"Nope. Imagine a picture of him with all the world leaders. He'd look a spaz. Quite a lot of people around the world already think he is PM as he has a higher international profile than Cameron. So that's a good reason to have him as PM? No it's not. I'm not saying it's a good reason but it will be one of the ways he secures support for himself, particularly with those with an eye to business outside of the UK." To quote Professor Farmsworth "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" | |||
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"Nope. Imagine a picture of him with all the world leaders. He'd look a spaz. Quite a lot of people around the world already think he is PM as he has a higher international profile than Cameron. So that's a good reason to have him as PM? No it's not. I'm not saying it's a good reason but it will be one of the ways he secures support for himself, particularly with those with an eye to business outside of the UK. To quote Professor Farmsworth "I don't want to live on this planet anymore"" Well, we DO want to live here. Just not with terribly right wing media savvy types like Boris heading things up. It's quite deliberate that he doesn't elaborate on future policy making. | |||
"At least he would rip Milliband to shreds at PM's questions ! Would be interesting to say the least !" How would he, beyond platitude? | |||
"At least he would rip Milliband to shreds at PM's questions ! Would be interesting to say the least ! How would he, beyond platitude?" Very quick wit, plus he would have the whole place in stitches, unsure of how we would look on the world stage with him in charge though ! | |||
"We've had plenty of fools in the past so one more cannot do any more harm"  | |||
"At least he would rip Milliband to shreds at PM's questions ! Would be interesting to say the least !" That's not exactly difficult | |||
"At least he would rip Milliband to shreds at PM's questions ! Would be interesting to say the least ! That's not exactly difficult" Yeah ok, will give you that one, think my 8 year old son could do that too | |||
"Nope. Imagine a picture of him with all the world leaders. He'd look a spaz. Quite a lot of people around the world already think he is PM as he has a higher international profile than Cameron. So that's a good reason to have him as PM? No it's not. I'm not saying it's a good reason but it will be one of the ways he secures support for himself, particularly with those with an eye to business outside of the UK. To quote Professor Farmsworth "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" Well, we DO want to live here. Just not with terribly right wing media savvy types like Boris heading things up. It's quite deliberate that he doesn't elaborate on future policy making. " I need to win the lotto and get out of this country. Like tomorrow or something. | |||
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"i think he is a dangerous man, he may come across as a cheeky chappy who is not 'media perfect' etc.. but having had dealings with him within his remit as Mayor, trust me he is devious and will bend and ignore the rules to achieve what he wants.." Oh, so true!! How can anyone contemplate ever voting Tory again? | |||
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"i think he is a dangerous man, he may come across as a cheeky chappy who is not 'media perfect' etc.. but having had dealings with him within his remit as Mayor, trust me he is devious and will bend and ignore the rules to achieve what he wants.. Oh, so true!! How can anyone contemplate ever voting Tory again? " I can, but then I'm a die-hard Tory supporter. As for BoJo, is he really any different from Ken Livingstone who regarded motorists as his personal sworn enemy. It was not unknown for him to bend the rules to get himself re-elected time and again. Boris for PM? Not a chance. Cameron will keep his job as PM for 10 years by which time BoJo will have either shuffled off to the private sector or he'll have firmly entrenched himself as Mayor and won't want to give it up. He knew when Cameron became leader of the party that his career as an MP had gone as far as it was going to go hence why he went for Mayor of London. | |||
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.he will probably put his red nose and clown shoes in the ring when cameron gets booted out of office in 2015 | |||
"why swap real clowns like osbourne and cameron for a fake one" if thats your yard stick look over the dispatch box at the Muppets on the labour front bench, Ed "I'll stab anyone in the back to get what I want" and Millibore, who has stabbed everyone in the back. | |||
"why swap real clowns like osbourne and cameron for a fake one if thats your yard stick look over the dispatch box at the Muppets on the labour front bench, Ed "I'll stab anyone in the back to get what I want" and Millibore, who has stabbed everyone in the back." If we're advocating clowns for Tory leader............... Wishy, get in there!! | |||
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"Politics a funny old game, almost as old as another old profession. In some ways having the mainstream parties clearly nail their true colours to the mast would mean the nation would know where it stands. Some people will be shafted by all the parties, others by just one of them. The question is which do we as a voting think when it comes to the ballot box. The 'my vote is worthless' crowd need to wake up and vote." i agree we all should vote but please can we have somebody that is worthy of the publics vote as i and many others do not see anybody from any party that is worth a vote | |||
"why swap real clowns like osbourne and cameron for a fake one if thats your yard stick look over the dispatch box at the Muppets on the labour front bench, Ed "I'll stab anyone in the back to get what I want" and Millibore, who has stabbed everyone in the back. If we're advocating clowns for Tory leader............... Wishy, get in there!!" Personal insults are not permitted on the forums. If you can't debate without resorting to personal attacks then maybe you shouldn't debate at all. | |||
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"why swap real clowns like osbourne and cameron for a fake one if thats your yard stick look over the dispatch box at the Muppets on the labour front bench, Ed "I'll stab anyone in the back to get what I want" and Millibore, who has stabbed everyone in the back. If we're advocating clowns for Tory leader............... Wishy, get in there!! Personal insults are not permitted on the forums. If you can't debate without resorting to personal attacks then maybe you shouldn't debate at all." And calling somebody weird isn't an insult?? Pot, kettle, black. That's you all over Wishy m boy! And... I don't need your kinda approval to make contributions when and where I like. | |||
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"The man is a huge buffoon,..........." That's why the Tories love him. Boris, Pickles, IDS, Fabricant - buffoons all. | |||
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"We've had plenty of fools in the past so one more cannot do any more harm BoJo isn't a fool. He is disarmingly charming and manages to get people to think he is a bumbling idiot but his ideology and policies are more right wing than anything we have seen from this government. Absolutely correct, a very contrived persona to disguise some alarming beliefs and ideals." Indeed. The fact that so many can't see through the facade is the truly worrying thing. | |||
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"We've had plenty of fools in the past so one more cannot do any more harm BoJo isn't a fool. He is disarmingly charming and manages to get people to think he is a bumbling idiot but his ideology and policies are more right wing than anything we have seen from this government. Absolutely correct, a very contrived persona to disguise some alarming beliefs and ideals. Indeed. The fact that so many can't see through the facade is the truly worrying thing. " BoJo pulls off the trick of having a different facade for every occasion. He can be utterly charming and then eye poppingly rude in the same meeting but to different people and not miss a step. | |||
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"He is a very dangerous person, the buffoon is partly an act. All the Tories are twats, bastards who let everyone suffer and are only interested in helping their rich chums who they were at Eton with. They are completely out of touch and don't care how many lives they ruin. All these cuts wouldn't be needed if they reeled in the money rich bastards owe HMRC. Saying that, I don't hate rich people, only the ones that think they are bigger than the system. A year at Uni now costs £9000, which is a disgrace. A tax of a percent On loads of daily business transactions would enable free tuition for all. Their are around 17,000 large transactions a day. As for HS2 they can shove the plan up Eric Pickles fat arse. The money could buy much needed new trains. Sorry for the rant but I hate the Tories." and the labliar party did better? | |||
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"Labour put in the minimum wage, before that your pay was at the mercy of your boss. Unfroze Child Benefit which was next to nothing in 1997. There are plenty of things Labour did that I didn't like such as Iraq. Labour give some compassion, where the Tories let the poor and hard working suffer." Please don't take this as undue criticism ( its due criticism) but your talking out your @rse. All the Labour party did was spend money they didn't have and park the problems for someone else to sort out. The lovely compassionate labour party are happy to see people go on strike and screw the public who need services. | |||
"........ Labour give some compassion, where the Tories let the poor and hard working suffer. Please don't take this as undue criticism ( its due criticism) but your talking out your @rse. All the Labour party did was spend money they didn't have and park the problems for someone else to sort out. ............ " What the Labour Government did was put money into the banks so that, on the Monday morning after the weekend it all fell apart, people could actually get money out of the ATMs. Without that it would have been like Greece. Queues to into bank branches which didn't have money. Riots in the streets. | |||
" All the Tories are twats, bastards who let everyone suffer and are only interested in helping their rich chums who they were at Eton with. A year at Uni now costs £9000, which is a disgrace. A tax of a percent On loads of daily business transactions would enable free tuition for all." All very interesting, but it was the labour government who introduced tuition fees. | |||
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"Labour put in the minimum wage, before that your pay was at the mercy of your boss. Unfroze Child Benefit which was next to nothing in 1997. There are plenty of things Labour did that I didn't like such as Iraq. Labour give some compassion, where the Tories let the poor and hard working suffer." Lets summate the LiaBlair years. A Fanfare start with the DReam words Things Can Only Get Better The Iraq War The Banking collapse Blair slinking off and dropping Brooooon right in it and finally The note stating All the money is gone!!!! And to think some folk would actually put those feckin clowns back in charge  | |||
" All the Tories are twats, bastards who let everyone suffer and are only interested in helping their rich chums who they were at Eton with. A year at Uni now costs £9000, which is a disgrace. A tax of a percent On loads of daily business transactions would enable free tuition for all. All very interesting, but it was the labour government who introduced tuition fees." Tuition fees are the result of the Deering (Dearing?) Report, set up by JOhn Major. | |||
" A year at Uni now costs £9000, which is a disgrace. " The real disgrace is Labour's policy of offering degree courses to everyone. Many years ago... only the very brightest and best young people went to University and did degrees in useful subjects and went on to become doctors and scientists etc The Labour party decided that this wasn't fair and everyone should be able to get a degree. But that cost lots and lots of money so they had to charge tuition fees. But that didn't matter to Labour, everyone could get a degree and it didn't matter that a generation of kids were starting their working lives with student loans to pay off and a mickey mouse degree that's as much use as tits on a fish in finding a job. Sorry for the rant but I fucking hate Tony Blair and that fat one eyed prick that followed him for the way they fucked up my country | |||
" ............. Sorry for the rant but I fucking hate Tony Blair and that fat one eyed prick that followed him for the way they fucked up my country "Gordon saw more with one eye than most folk saw with two. | |||
" ............. Sorry for the rant but I fucking hate Tony Blair and that fat one eyed prick that followed him for the way they fucked up my country
Gordon saw more with one eye than most folk saw with two."I wasn't fond of the way he replaced Blair but I agree with you, plus the exit strategy cooked up for him was pretty tasteless. No surprise you never see him on the telly after all that. | |||
" ............. Sorry for the rant but I fucking hate Tony Blair and that fat one eyed prick that followed him for the way they fucked up my country
Gordon saw more with one eye than most folk saw with two."He didn't see the credit crunch coming when he was chancellor. He didn't see that the price of gold would go up when he sold half our reserve for a give away price. He didn't see that opening our borders to the world's waifs and strays and then trying to bribe them into voting labour with generous benefits would fuck up the country. He didn't see that being concerned about immigration levels doesn't make someone a racist. The only thing I'd like to see him doing is standing in the dock next to Blair being tried for treason for the way they fucked up this country and sold us out to the EU. | |||
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"The man is an arse. All he cares about is tge south. He does not represent, or care for, those north of the m25. " That would be the South East | |||
"The tuition fallacy, always amazed at how so many get up on their hind legs and howl at the moon the second the subject comes up. I blame a lot of the parents for actually allowing their not so bright progeny like little Chardonnay, Zinfandel or Merlot to go to a 3rd rate Uni to study Underwater Basket Weaving or the History of the Hole in the Swiss Cheese which are about as much use as tits on a fish. The real irony though is despite all the parental whining and hand wringing a fair percentage of those kids who end up with a totally useless Desmond will never go on to get a job earning sufficient wages to ever HAVE to pay back a penny of what they owe "LOOOOOOL TITS ON A FISH?!! It's the one thing mermaids are good for, christ man!  | |||
"The tuition fallacy, always amazed at how so many get up on their hind legs and howl at the moon the second the subject comes up. I blame a lot of the parents for actually allowing their not so bright progeny like little Chardonnay, Zinfandel or Merlot to go to a 3rd rate Uni to study Underwater Basket Weaving or the History of the Hole in the Swiss Cheese which are about as much use as tits on a fish. The real irony though is despite all the parental whining and hand wringing a fair percentage of those kids who end up with a totally useless Desmond will never go on to get a job earning sufficient wages to ever HAVE to pay back a penny of what they owe "How dare they try and educate themselves beyond the state education level. Ideas above the station etc. FFS, everyone has the right to try and better themselves | |||
" How dare they try and educate themselves beyond the state education level. Ideas above the station etc. FFS, everyone has the right to try and better themselves" Educate themselves, really? 3 years studying for a bollox degree, racking up debt with little or no realistic chance of ever earning enough money to clear your debts........ Not sounding to educated to me  | |||
"The man is an arse. All he cares about is tge south. He does not represent, or care for, those north of the m25. " Whilst I have no time for Boris (except inasmuch as he may well topple Cameron) - that's what Boris was elected and is paid to do. He's Mayor of London. | |||
"The man is an arse. All he cares about is tge south. He does not represent, or care for, those north of the m25. Whilst I have no time for Boris (except inasmuch as he may well topple Cameron) - that's what Boris was elected and is paid to do. He's Mayor of London." He also knows that if he gets business in London and overseas to support him he's on a pretty strong ticket. | |||
"The man is an arse. All he cares about is tge south. He does not represent, or care for, those north of the m25. Whilst I have no time for Boris (except inasmuch as he may well topple Cameron) - that's what Boris was elected and is paid to do. He's Mayor of London. He also knows that if he gets business in London and overseas to support him he's on a pretty strong ticket. " Hence his plea on Stamp Duty. | |||
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"Haven't read the entire thread yet but seeing as I'm a Tory then I'll say a big fat yes to Bojo for PM, plus I'm all for more blondes in parliament "He's shorter than you think. Do you still want him? | |||
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"The man is a huge buffoon,........... That's why the Tories love him. Boris, Pickles, IDS, Fabricant - buffoons all." And Boris's dad. He was on Andrew Neil during the week re HS2. Another buffoon of the first water. | |||
"Oh cripes and golly crumbs trousers. Should the affable fool - for it is he - be our next prime minister? " Yes  | |||
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"Just when you thought it couldn't possibly get worse.........!!! "lol if someone comes up with tempting the non-voting electorate with free movie and sport channels it could get a lot worse ! | |||
"Oh cripes and golly crumbs trousers. Should the affable fool - for it is he - be our next prime minister? Yes "Care to elaborate? | |||
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"We've had plenty of fools in the past so one more cannot do any more harm BoJo isn't a fool. He is disarmingly charming and manages to get people to think he is a bumbling idiot but his ideology and policies are more right wing than anything we have seen from this government." Absolutely! The twat is more right wing than Thatcher. | |||
"We've had plenty of fools in the past so one more cannot do any more harm BoJo isn't a fool. He is disarmingly charming and manages to get people to think he is a bumbling idiot but his ideology and policies are more right wing than anything we have seen from this government. Absolutely! The twat is more right wing than Thatcher. " | |||
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"Omfg, nooooooo. We will be bloody doomed. "And people will be happy as he's sooo funny. Water cannons across the land. | |||
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"I was thinking about writing a sketch about Boris, but frankly I don't think I can do this menace justice. "I wrote a column about him when he first became Mayor. It was as funny as I could make it but it couldn't top anything that he said. | |||
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"Labour put in the minimum wage, before that your pay was at the mercy of your boss. Unfroze Child Benefit which was next to nothing in 1997. There are plenty of things Labour did that I didn't like such as Iraq. Labour give some compassion, where the Tories let the poor and hard working suffer." | |||
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"Labour put in the minimum wage, before that your pay was at the mercy of your boss. Unfroze Child Benefit which was next to nothing in 1997. There are plenty of things Labour did that I didn't like such as Iraq.and that was a political rant for the bankrupsy party nuf said Labour give some compassion, where the Tories let the poor and hard working suffer." | |||
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"Boris will unwittingly, become the labour parties greatest ally. Ps the recession was worldwide. So even at his most egotistical, Tony Blair could not claim credit, for the credit crunch. ;-)" No, Boris will not become Labours greatest ally! Boris plays the buffoon, but behind his bumbling dumb but nice is a very clever and ruthless politician whos every act of buffoonery is carefully calculated that is why Cameron had him removed from parliament and given the poison chalice that is Mayor of London. And why he is now coming back from that roll with an even stronger power-base. | |||
"Have you ever seen him being inter_iewed? he can talk for hours and not actually tell you anything, and when you manage to pin him down its a load of bluff and bluster. Typical Political material," All politicians make good actors better Playing hamlet than in parliament we,re All at there mercy one way or another But the biggest greed I have ever seen Was the stories of how much the bankers tryed to line their pockets with before It all went pear shaped on them and after that my faith on the monetary system here collasped their greed was monumental each banker was trying to make billions if not more for themselves probabily trying to buy up buisnesses otherwise it would not make sense asset wise, half a million and retire most folk would not them I,d never forgive Them in a lifetime for what a mess they Contributed too. | |||
"Boris will unwittingly, become the labour parties greatest ally. Ps the recession was worldwide. So even at his most egotistical, Tony Blair could not claim credit, for the credit crunch. ;-) No, Boris will not become Labours greatest ally! Boris plays the buffoon, but behind his bumbling dumb but nice is a very clever and ruthless politician whos every act of buffoonery is carefully calculated that is why Cameron had him removed from parliament and given the poison chalice that is Mayor of London. And why he is now coming back from that roll with an even stronger power-base. " Or dave recognised his potential, to become labours greatest ally. | |||
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"BoJo has built a considerable power base and allies in his time as Mayor. He has shown he can run a large economy. He now comes with more experience than Cameron had when he took on being PM. He will do what he needs to in order to achieve his goal, including continuing to play the affable fool. That will win him the popular vote. He's perfect for the celeb over substance age. He is ruthless. " Absolutely! People will fall for it! It's only lovable Boris. He's so much fun. Goofin around and then bang! The mask is off and before you know it we are back to the 80's (and not in a good, loving this music way). He's a Tory through and through. Be afraid if you are a woman, live in the north, don't have a trust fund or are disabled and he gets in. | |||
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"hes got the personality to win it but we need a PM with balls need another churchill or thatcher " I didn't know Margaret Hilda had testicles? Explains a lot! | |||
"hes got the personality to win it but we need a PM with balls need another churchill or thatcher " Yes, that's just what we need! | |||
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"i think he is a dangerous man, he may come across as a cheeky chappy who is not 'media perfect' etc.. but having had dealings with him within his remit as Mayor, trust me he is devious and will bend and ignore the rules to achieve what he wants.." | |||
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"need another Churchill" Agreed! Remember he is the one who said "the country is in need, so the rich must pay their share" as he introduced the 99.25% top income tax rate, and the super tax on luxury goods.
Churchill must be rolling in his grave knowing that there are British people who think he and the milk snatcher are in any way alike!
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"need another Churchill Agreed! Remember he is the one who said "the country is in need, so the rich must pay their share" as he introduced the 99.25% top income tax rate, and the super tax on luxury goods.
Churchill must be rolling in his grave knowing that there are British people who think he and the milk snatcher are in any way alike!
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"need another Churchill Agreed! Remember he is the one who said "the country is in need, so the rich must pay their share" as he introduced the 99.25% top income tax rate, and the super tax on luxury goods.
Churchill must be rolling in his grave knowing that there are British people who think he and the milk snatcher are in any way alike!
"While basically true it is a bit misleading as the 99.25% tax was set in wartime. Winning the war and stopping wartime profiteering was far more important than encouraging enterprise. Top tax rates continued to stay at around 90% throughout the rebuilding years of the 50's and 60's. Heath was the first to make any significant reduction, only to see it increased again by Wilson. Thatcher finally got her teeth into it and top rate as well as basic rates fell throughout her premiership. Funnily enough total receipts from top income tax actually rose as the rate was cut. It is also worth noting that a recent "e petition" to restore top tax to 99% received just six signatures. Says it all really. | |||
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