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"I thought people on benefits didn't pay their council tax? have you filled in a council tax benefits form?" they pay 25percent as from this week | |||
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"I thought people on benefits didn't pay their council tax? have you filled in a council tax benefits form?" Its new government rules from April we have to pay £19 a month! How I don't know! | |||
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"You still pay something towards it..." Now yes! | |||
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"I thought people on benefits didn't pay their council tax? have you filled in a council tax benefits form?they pay 25percent as from this week" Correct! | |||
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"If you knew that, why ask?" LOL see my original question!  | |||
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"Tbf he didnt ask" What does Tbf mean? | |||
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"If you knew that, why ask?" does seem a odd question I would have thought everyone on benefits will be in the same situation I know people on benefits don't get much but surely they can afford £4.75 a week, most of them can afford to drink and smoke lol | |||
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"Tbf he didnt ask What does Tbf mean?" too be fair  | |||
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"Tbf he didnt ask What does Tbf mean?" To be fair... 
Tbh, to be honest.... 
Frightening how much detritus I carry around with me....  | |||
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"If you knew that, why ask? does seem a odd question I would have thought everyone on benefits will be in the same situation I know people on benefits don't get much but surely they can afford £4.75 a week, most of them can afford to drink and smoke lol " £4.75 a week? after you have paid all your bills you don't have a penny left also you have to pay £19 a month not weekly! and I DON'T SMOKE and only drink TEA just HAVE SEX A LOT   | |||
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"I thought people on benefits didn't pay their council tax? have you filled in a council tax benefits form? Its new government rules from April we have to pay £19 a month! How I don't know! "thats hardly paying then.... my friends on benefits he said hes to pay £20 out the hundred odd quid it is a month after these new rules | |||
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"If you knew that, why ask? does seem a odd question I would have thought everyone on benefits will be in the same situation I know people on benefits don't get much but surely they can afford £4.75 a week, most of them can afford to drink and smoke lol £4.75 a week? after you have paid all your bills you don't have a penny left also you have to pay £19 a month not weekly! and I DON'T SMOKE and only drink TEA just HAVE SEX A LOT "I know you pay it monthly but it equates to £4.75 a week The fag and drink comment was just ment light hearted (tho true in a lot of peoples cases lol) don't take it to serious | |||
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"it would be easier if people learnt to read threads. he actually asked if anyone was in the same situation "THANKS DOESN'T LOOK AS IF SWINGERS ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION FROM THE REPLIES IV'E HAD SO FAR! MAYBE ITS TO EXPENSIVE TO SWING IF YOUR UNEMPLOYED THESE DAYS | |||
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"I thought people on benefits didn't pay their council tax? have you filled in a council tax benefits form? Its new government rules from April we have to pay £19 a month! How I don't know! thats hardly paying then.... my friends on benefits he said hes to pay £20 out the hundred odd quid it is a month after these new rules"Hang on how much benefit does he get? I get £130 a fortnight! | |||
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"Oh damn what a shame I have to pay 100% which is £80 a month.... I wish I only had to pay 20% of my CT bill... " YEP BUT HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE A MONTH??? | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation? "Is it me... Or is this programme only being rolled out in a trial area, not nationwide....??? | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation? "How long do you plan on being unemployed? Surely it's a short term thing and you'll be out on the job trail Tuesday morning, yes? Then you can go back to paying the full CT bill we all have to pay. | |||
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"All to do with government clawing back this deficit i fed up if hearing about.i have too pay full council tax anyway at £125 a month.keep getting told i have to help pay back what was borrowed in the 90s & 00s although i never had sweet fa of it "I pay full council tax too, £19 a month may be a struggle when you don't work but its not what you would call a walk in the park paying over a £100 a month, all because you work it does not mean bill are any easier than for those who don't, we may get more money coming in but pay a lot more out and for people on low incomes at times they are no better off than unemployed by the time they have paid everything out than unemployed people dont | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation? "why do u have to pay? | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
Is it me... Or is this programme only being rolled out in a trial area, not nationwide....???"I was told its nationwide! | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
Is it me... Or is this programme only being rolled out in a trial area, not nationwide....???"That's what I thought, and the trial area has been reduced to one town, Ashton-under-Lyne. | |||
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"Oh damn what a shame I have to pay 100% which is £80 a month.... I wish I only had to pay 20% of my CT bill... YEP BUT HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE A MONTH??? "That is NONE of your business but lets just say I rob peter to pay Paul.. because I work and have bills coming out my arse end!!! | |||
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"All to do with government clawing back this deficit i fed up if hearing about.i have too pay full council tax anyway at £125 a month.keep getting told i have to help pay back what was borrowed in the 90s & 00s although i never had sweet fa of it
I pay full council tax too, £19 a month may be a struggle when you don't work but its not what you would call a walk in the park paying over a £100 a month, all because you work it does not mean bill are any easier than for those who don't, we may get more money coming in but pay a lot more out and for people on low incomes at times they are no better off than unemployed by the time they have paid everything out than unemployed people dont"yes i know.im one of them.! | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
How long do you plan on being unemployed? Surely it's a short term thing and you'll be out on the job trail Tuesday morning, yes? Then you can go back to paying the full CT bill we all have to pay."WISH IT WAS AS EASY AS THAT! DON'T FORGET I DID WORK FOR 30 YEARS!! SO NOT A BENEFITS CHEAT OR SLOB!! | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
Is it me... Or is this programme only being rolled out in a trial area, not nationwide....???
That's what I thought, and the trial area has been reduced to one town, Ashton-under-Lyne."I cant see that being allowed, not that I have looked in to it but surely they wouldn't get away with charging some people and not others? does that not go against equality? | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation? why do u have to pay? "GOVERNMENT SAY I HAVE TO | |||
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"it would be easier if people learnt to read threads. he actually asked if anyone was in the same situation "Instead of back handed comments like this, would have been better to say "He meant...." | |||
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"If you knew that, why ask? does seem a odd question I would have thought everyone on benefits will be in the same situation I know people on benefits don't get much but surely they can afford £4.75 a week, most of them can afford to drink and smoke lol " With the council tax charge and the bedroom charge...and after paying heating and water...I will have £7 left to live on.......... And no.......i no longer smoke and rarely drink....Before anyone mentions internet....my brother pays for it ...... But then i dont work so why should living on £7 bothger anyone. The fact i can no longer work due to disability dont matter  | |||
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"it would be easier if people learnt to read threads. he actually asked if anyone was in the same situation
THANKS DOESN'T LOOK AS IF SWINGERS ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION FROM THE REPLIES IV'E HAD SO FAR! MAYBE ITS TO EXPENSIVE TO SWING IF YOUR UNEMPLOYED THESE DAYS "Mate, I'm in the same position at the moment, you don't get much sympathy on here from the daily mail readers lol. Paid a lot of tax all my life, struggling at the moment as I retrain and you get bugger all to show for it. Had to sell my house and heading for bankruptcy but hey sure I will help pay the UK debt while those in ivory towers munch their fois gras | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
Is it me... Or is this programme only being rolled out in a trial area, not nationwide....???
That's what I thought, and the trial area has been reduced to one town, Ashton-under-Lyne." | |||
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"it would be easier if people learnt to read threads. he actually asked if anyone was in the same situation
THANKS DOESN'T LOOK AS IF SWINGERS ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION FROM THE REPLIES IV'E HAD SO FAR! MAYBE ITS TO EXPENSIVE TO SWING IF YOUR UNEMPLOYED THESE DAYS
Mate, I'm in the same position at the moment, you don't get much sympathy on here from the daily mail readers lol. Paid a lot of tax all my life, struggling at the moment as I retrain and you get bugger all to show for it. Had to sell my house and heading for bankruptcy but hey sure I will help pay the UK debt while those in ivory towers munch their fois gras " | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
Is it me... Or is this programme only being rolled out in a trial area, not nationwide....???
That's what I thought, and the trial area has been reduced to one town, Ashton-under-Lyne.
I cant see that being allowed, not that I have looked in to it but surely they wouldn't get away with charging some people and not others? does that not go against equality?"A lot of bullshit "let's try to win over the electorate" ideas have been, historically, trialled in one area.... | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
Is it me... Or is this programme only being rolled out in a trial area, not nationwide....???
That's what I thought, and the trial area has been reduced to one town, Ashton-under-Lyne.
I cant see that being allowed, not that I have looked in to it but surely they wouldn't get away with charging some people and not others? does that not go against equality?"They trialled the new welfare reform in certain areas, so it stands to reason that they will have trialled this too | |||
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"it would be easier if people learnt to read threads. he actually asked if anyone was in the same situation
Instead of back handed comments like this, would have been better to say "He meant...."
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"If you knew that, why ask? does seem a odd question I would have thought everyone on benefits will be in the same situation I know people on benefits don't get much but surely they can afford £4.75 a week, most of them can afford to drink and smoke lol With the council tax charge and the bedroom charge...and after paying heating and water...I will have £7 left to live on.......... And no.......i no longer smoke and rarely drink....Before anyone mentions internet....my brother pays for it ...... But then i dont work so why should living on £7 bothger anyone. The fact i can no longer work due to disability dont matter "At last someone who really cares and knows my situation, thank you xxx | |||
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"it would be easier if people learnt to read threads. he actually asked if anyone was in the same situation
Instead of back handed comments like this, would have been better to say "He meant...."
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"Oh damn what a shame I have to pay 100% which is £80 a month.... I wish I only had to pay 20% of my CT bill... YEP BUT HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE A MONTH??? "You seemed to have forgotten that you once worked, therefore you have some idea how much things cost and that includes the difference in expenditure when they brought in the council tax so your comment is illogical | |||
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"If you knew that, why ask? does seem a odd question I would have thought everyone on benefits will be in the same situation I know people on benefits don't get much but surely they can afford £4.75 a week, most of them can afford to drink and smoke lol With the council tax charge and the bedroom charge...and after paying heating and water...I will have £7 left to live on.......... And no.......i no longer smoke and rarely drink....Before anyone mentions internet....my brother pays for it ...... But then i dont work so why should living on £7 bothger anyone. The fact i can no longer work due to disability dont matter
At last someone who really cares and knows my situation, thank you xxx"There are a lot of us who are, or have been there.... Hang in there.... And good luck... | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! " Thats how it was for me when I was working, always skint! | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! " £187 a month here for council tax...any one want a swap | |||
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"it would be easier if people learnt to read threads. he actually asked if anyone was in the same situation
Instead of back handed comments like this, would have been better to say "He meant...."
didnt think it was back handed but read into it what you like as some did the op"Nothing wrong with my reading skills.... I obviously never took it as "Anyone else in my situation"?..If so, lets all complain about having to pay.... I took it as "Anyone else in my situation? Or is it just me, have I forgot to fill out paper work.... Stupid me for thinking of the better senario.... | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! Thats how it was for me when I was working, always skint! " | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! £187 a month here for council tax...any one want a swap" that's your own fault for being a posh git lol | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! £187 a month here for council tax...any one want a swap" If you can get me a job £30k a year yes please | |||
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"it would be easier if people learnt to read threads. he actually asked if anyone was in the same situation
Instead of back handed comments like this, would have been better to say "He meant...."
didnt think it was back handed but read into it what you like as some did the op
Nothing wrong with my reading skills....
I obviously never took it as "Anyone else in my situation"?..If so, lets all complain about having to pay....
I took it as "Anyone else in my situation? Or is it just me, have I forgot to fill out paper work....
Stupid me for thinking of the better senario...."I dont think your stupid, you just misinterpreted what was written | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! £187 a month here for council tax...any one want a swap that's your own fault for being a posh git lol " | |||
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"Oh damn what a shame I have to pay 100% which is £80 a month.... I wish I only had to pay 20% of my CT bill... YEP BUT HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE A MONTH??? "I have worked out with bills I have £50 per week to live on which is average to JSA of my age!!! | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! £187 a month here for council tax...any one want a swap" Is that highest band for where you live? If so thats really good, Think Jay's is £240 a month | |||
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"I thought people on benefits didn't pay their council tax? have you filled in a council tax benefits form? Its new government rules from April we have to pay £19 a month! How I don't know! thats hardly paying then.... my friends on benefits he said hes to pay £20 out the hundred odd quid it is a month after these new rules
Hang on how much benefit does he get? I get £130 a fortnight! "You won't get that for ever. 6 months then it can stop (depending on circumstances). Then you get a some work, a few weeks here a few weeks there. Then you have to claim again next year. But they won't let you because you did not have enough NI contributions for the previous tax year. Your in the poverty cycle then. You lose your house because they won't help with mortgage (even just the interest). So you end up in council accom at the governments expese! Now there's logic for you. | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! " Ha we have a tenant who we are always chasing for his rent, he rings up all the time to complain about the bin area, the state of the scheme he lives on but funnily enough you can't get hold of him when he has missed a payment
Then there is the tenant rep who rings the housing association I work for because the bins haven't been emptied and we are expected to contact the council ourselves, yet this man doesn't work and often comes out with 'don't you know who I am!' | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation? "Regardless of how long you have been working, if you aren't working I feel you should pay something. It's a hard life but why should anyone not working, not have to contribute. Modern society is soft, I work all the friggin' hours god sends so go get busy and make a crust - it will do you good | |||
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"Oh damn what a shame I have to pay 100% which is £80 a month.... I wish I only had to pay 20% of my CT bill... YEP BUT HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE A MONTH???
I have worked out with bills I have £50 per week to live on which is average to JSA of my age!!!"And I pay my bills out that jsa grand total, gas, electricity, etc. It's not a pocket money fund it barely covers these bills ...... | |||
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" Stupid me for thinking of the better senario.... I dont think your stupid, you just misinterpreted what was written" Was calling myself stupid..... Really never crossed my mind that he wanted to complain about it.... | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! £187 a month here for council tax...any one want a swap that's your own fault for being a posh git lol "I know..but its hit me hard,,the butler has gone and the chauffeur is only part time now...pass the pimms | |||
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"Oh damn what a shame I have to pay 100% which is £80 a month.... I wish I only had to pay 20% of my CT bill... YEP BUT HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE A MONTH???
I have worked out with bills I have £50 per week to live on which is average to JSA of my age!!!
And I pay my bills out that jsa grand total, gas, electricity, etc. It's not a pocket money fund it barely covers these bills ......"I have been there and worn the tshirt I am no better off working than when I was on benefits but bordem drove me around the bends... | |||
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"Nobody noticed my spelling mistake, maybe you should all work for the government! lol
ps tell me what it and i'll believe your a swinger and not working for the government lol "Sorry its my day off... | |||
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"I have worked all my adult life and now cant due to medical problems. If i had the choice between paying full rent /c.tax etc and sitting here not working.........guess which one i would pick. Im fed up with having to pay because the fucking government cant do its job properly and tell between those who need help and them that dont . its not rocket science ffs ...... But no....we all get lumped in together .......and it really is pissing me off. "Spot on comment, I am sick of the bashing on here by people I hope never face hardship due to circumstances out of their control  | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
Regardless of how long you have been working, if you aren't working I feel you should pay something.
It's a hard life but why should anyone not working, not have to contribute.
Modern society is soft, I work all the friggin' hours god sends so go get busy and make a crust - it will do you good "True it really makes me be a part of the big society NOT | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! £187 a month here for council tax...any one want a swap that's your own fault for being a posh git lol
I know..but its hit me hard,,the butler has gone and the chauffeur is only part time now...pass the pimms"well if you need a new house maid I work reasonable rates | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
Regardless of how long you have been working, if you aren't working I feel you should pay something.
It's a hard life but why should anyone not working, not have to contribute.
Modern society is soft, I work all the friggin' hours god sends so go get busy and make a crust - it will do you good "Yeah - just get one of those millions of jobs that are out there! | |||
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"im in same boat iv got to pay something not sure how much as yet ,as well as paying 25 quids rent a week and csa stopping money out wat little i get , then uv got try pay bills as well it crap ,thers nothing left and it aint for the want of not trying either to find work " Make me a friend mate! | |||
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"Wish I only had to pay £19 a month instead of £100 a month council tax and yes I know I'm not unemployed but i might as well be as I've likely less disposable income by the time I've paid out for everything particularly childcare costs!! I actually think its right that everyone should pay a small percentage as let's face it employed or not you still expect the same services that the council tax goes towards!! What pisses me off is the die hard benefit claimers who have no intention of working but come in complaining if the bins haven't been collected or the streets swept!! £187 a month here for council tax...any one want a swap that's your own fault for being a posh git lol
I know..but its hit me hard,,the butler has gone and the chauffeur is only part time now...pass the pimms
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"I have worked all my adult life and now cant due to medical problems. If i had the choice between paying full rent /c.tax etc and sitting here not working.........guess which one i would pick. Im fed up with having to pay because the fucking government cant do its job properly and tell between those who need help and them that dont . its not rocket science ffs ...... But no....we all get lumped in together .......and it really is pissing me off.
Spot on comment, I am sick of the bashing on here by people I hope never face hardship due to circumstances out of their control "most people have at some point, when I split from my ex I had to leave my job as I worked night and as a single mother I couldn't leave the kids in bed alone and child care don't work 6pm till 6am, it didn't take me long to find a new job tho, I think I was out of work 6 weeks, the problem is a lot of people don't want to take work that is beneath them and would sooner stay on the dole moaning about what little money they get than do a job they don't want Im not saying that's you by the way, its not aimed at anyone on here on a personal level but I know lots of people who do feel like that | |||
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"I have worked all my adult life and now cant due to medical problems. If i had the choice between paying full rent /c.tax etc and sitting here not working.........guess which one i would pick. Im fed up with having to pay because the fucking government cant do its job properly and tell between those who need help and them that dont . its not rocket science ffs ...... But no....we all get lumped in together .......and it really is pissing me off.
Spot on comment, I am sick of the bashing on here by people I hope never face hardship due to circumstances out of their control
most people have at some point, when I split from my ex I had to leave my job as I worked night and as a single mother I couldn't leave the kids in bed alone and child care don't work 6pm till 6am, it didn't take me long to find a new job tho, I think I was out of work 6 weeks, the problem is a lot of people don't want to take work that is beneath them and would sooner stay on the dole moaning about what little money they get than do a job they don't want
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Spot on comment, I am sick of the bashing on here by people I hope never face hardship due to circumstances out of their control
most people have at some point, when I split from my ex I had to leave my job as I worked night and as a single mother I couldn't leave the kids in bed alone and child care don't work 6pm till 6am, it didn't take me long to find a new job tho, I think I was out of work 6 weeks, the problem is a lot of people don't want to take work that is beneath them and would sooner stay on the dole moaning about what little money they get than do a job they don't want
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"yerh i no loads that wud sooner sit on there arses , i hate it bores the fuck out of me , iv done diff jobs in past but now it uv got av a ticket for this ticket that all bollocks , and i no its health and safety befor someone says it , but it goes a bit beyond a joke when uv got av a ticket even push a fucking broom lol " can you say that again in English please lol | |||
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"I know years ago you could earn a small amount of money, think it was £15 at the time without your money being reduced. Could you not do a bit of cleaning or dog walking or odd jobs to make the short fall up? id happily pay someone £15 a week to walk my little fookers, I mean dogs lol" but then your feet and legs wouldn't be so trim... | |||
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"I know years ago you could earn a small amount of money, think it was £15 at the time without your money being reduced. Could you not do a bit of cleaning or dog walking or odd jobs to make the short fall up? id happily pay someone £15 a week to walk my little fookers, I mean dogs lol but then your feet and legs wouldn't be so trim... " stop flirting i've already accepted the job lol
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"being selfemployed when i have no work nobody pays my morgage or bills , i'm entitled to nothing if u have savings. it seems the less you have in this country the better off you are. my friend who is the same selfemployed same job but lives council and has nothing, he will get rent payed bills payed etc when we are out of work, ok he will have nothing left out the benifits money but when im not earning i get fuck all full stop. "That's so true in this country if you try to better yourself by buying your own house etc you get jack shit!!! I've worked all my adult life apart from 4 years in education from 2005-2009 at which point my ex left leaving me as a single mother with a mortgage and no job and when I went to ask for help they wouldn't give me a penny and told me I had enough from the maintenance my ex paid which didn't even cover the mortgage but if i had never worked a day and been in a rented house my rent, council tax etc would have been paid!! | |||
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"being selfemployed when i have no work nobody pays my morgage or bills , i'm entitled to nothing if u have savings. it seems the less you have in this country the better off you are. my friend who is the same selfemployed same job but lives council and has nothing, he will get rent payed bills payed etc when we are out of work, ok he will have nothing left out the benifits money but when im not earning i get fuck all full stop.
That's so true in this country if you try to better yourself by buying your own house etc you get jack shit!!! I've worked all my adult life apart from 4 years in education from 2005-2009 at which point my ex left leaving me as a single mother with a mortgage and no job and when I went to ask for help they wouldn't give me a penny and told me I had enough from the maintenance my ex paid which didn't even cover the mortgage but if i had never worked a day and been in a rented house my rent, council tax etc would have been paid!!"very well said...me too...now I can afford to have servants why shouldn't i | |||
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"I didn't work for 7 years and always paid 25% of my council tax. " Yip, been paying 25% for 18 months now myself.... | |||
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"yerh i no loads that wud sooner sit on there arses , i hate it bores the fuck out of me , iv done diff jobs in past but now it uv got av a ticket for this ticket that all bollocks , and i no its health and safety befor someone says it , but it goes a bit beyond a joke when uv got av a ticket even push a fucking broom lol " i'm thinking if your cv reads like this, i would use the help the job center offers to help you write in english to future employers | |||
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" very well said...me too...now I can afford to have servants why shouldn't i don't push your luck "I need some one to look after my son whilst im at my accountants....turf accountants of course | |||
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" very well said...me too...now I can afford to have servants why shouldn't i don't push your luck
I need some one to look after my son whilst im at my accountants....turf accountants of course"i bet u have a cuban cigar in yer mouth ,jodhpurs on and a monocle?? | |||
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" very well said...me too...now I can afford to have servants why shouldn't i don't push your luck
I need some one to look after my son whilst im at my accountants....turf accountants of course
i bet u have a cuban cigar in yer mouth ,jodhpurs on and a monocle?? "im so posh ive got twomonocles...that's eye glasses for you peasants out there | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
Is it me... Or is this programme only being rolled out in a trial area, not nationwide....???
That's what I thought, and the trial area has been reduced to one town, Ashton-under-Lyne."It's being rolled out in Warrington too | |||
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" very well said...me too...now I can afford to have servants why shouldn't i don't push your luck
I need some one to look after my son whilst im at my accountants....turf accountants of course
i bet u have a cuban cigar in yer mouth ,jodhpurs on and a monocle??
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"I forgot....... I must be grateful....not sit here stressing daily and making myself ill over the worry. Maybe giving all us moaners and complainers an arsnic pill will cure all the countries problems.. Get rid of the problem once and for all. Mengler had the same idea.... putting them down. I rarely get angry but the "stick everyone in the same camp theory" really does make me hoping mad. I really shouldnt read these sort of threads "but you get disability allowance dont you, which you're obviously entitled too so none is knocking you in fact i'm not knocking anyone whos on hard times, i just think the system should help everyone when they are in need, and be careful to not help those that are not and just want handouts you def are not all in the same boat everyone wants and needs are different  | |||
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" very well said...me too...now I can afford to have servants why shouldn't i don't push your luck
I need some one to look after my son whilst im at my accountants....turf accountants of course
i bet u have a cuban cigar in yer mouth ,jodhpurs on and a monocle??
im so posh ive got twomonocles...that's eye glasses for you peasants out there
i'm not sure "posh" is the word that best describes you lmao"just giving people an insight into how the other half live....any way ...sunglasses indoors ...even with those eyes...whats that about | |||
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" very well said...me too...now I can afford to have servants why shouldn't i don't push your luck
I need some one to look after my son whilst im at my accountants....turf accountants of course
i bet u have a cuban cigar in yer mouth ,jodhpurs on and a monocle??
im so posh ive got twomonocles...that's eye glasses for you peasants out there
i'm not sure "posh" is the word that best describes you lmao
just giving people an insight into how the other half live....any way ...sunglasses indoors ...even with those eyes...whats that about"i am Lord Lucan | |||
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" very well said...me too...now I can afford to have servants why shouldn't i don't push your luck
I need some one to look after my son whilst im at my accountants....turf accountants of course
i bet u have a cuban cigar in yer mouth ,jodhpurs on and a monocle??
im so posh ive got twomonocles...that's eye glasses for you peasants out there
i'm not sure "posh" is the word that best describes you lmao
just giving people an insight into how the other half live....any way ...sunglasses indoors ...even with those eyes...whats that about
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" very well said...me too...now I can afford to have servants why shouldn't i don't push your luck
I need some one to look after my son whilst im at my accountants....turf accountants of course
i bet u have a cuban cigar in yer mouth ,jodhpurs on and a monocle??
im so posh ive got twomonocles...that's eye glasses for you peasants out there
i'm not sure "posh" is the word that best describes you lmao
just giving people an insight into how the other half live....any way ...sunglasses indoors ...even with those eyes...whats that about
i am Lord Lucan
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"OP, I'm in the situation. I now have to rely on my best friend to help me out money wise and I hate myself for it, I'm very depressed and can't handle being labeled as the scum of Britain. I just keep putting on a fake smile in front of others, but on the inside, its dangerously eating me up. I'd do ANYTHING to be working and be skint, than to be stuck on benefits and be skint." got some nice easter eggs though... | |||
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"Wouldnt it make sense to give less and then take less? Benefit income= £50 per week Council tax and rent= £45 per week Why not just give them £5 per week? Disclaimer: All above quotes are estimations and can not be held responsible if wrong." They were actually considering giving housing benefit to claimants,instead of paying it direct to council/landlord! I so hope they never do that..... | |||
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"I know years ago you could earn a small amount of money, think it was £15 at the time without your money being reduced. Could you not do a bit of cleaning or dog walking or odd jobs to make the short fall up? £5 is the amount you can now earn without benefit being deducted. oh thanks i didnt know, they must of knocked that on the head as well then" Stuff what they SAY you can earn without it being deducted, don't tell the fuckers. There is always a way you can make a little bit of money and anyone living on benefits that isn't earning a tiny bit on the side must be getting help elsewhere because you can't pay your bills on benefits. Start by selling some of your stuff on fleabay, once that's gone see what else you could sell, you can easily make £20 a week doing that. And for anyone that says oh that's terrible, you shouldn't rip off the government and should always tell every penny you have tell them they need a reality check. | |||
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"All the ones going on about their mortgage and how the unemployed get their rent paid for them....... Did it ever, just for a split second, cross your mind that people had to sell their homes when they lost their jobs?? Or did you automatically assume that they have never worked and always lived in council house??" this
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Worked full time, paid for my child in a private day care, then I was hit with ill health that started off with a sick note, then statutory sick pay, now registered disabled.
I was made homeless, had to apply for social housing and for 18 months, I refused to dent my pride and claim benefits, therefore getting into huge debt with rent and council tax arrears.
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"OP, I'm in the situation. I now have to rely on my best friend to help me out money wise and I hate myself for it, I'm very depressed and can't handle being labeled as the scum of Britain. I just keep putting on a fake smile in front of others, but on the inside, its dangerously eating me up. I'd do ANYTHING to be working and be skint, than to be stuck on benefits and be skint. got some nice easter eggs though... " my friend bought them he spoils me rotten! | |||
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"I forgot....... I must be grateful....not sit here stressing daily and making myself ill over the worry. Maybe giving all us moaners and complainers an arsnic pill will cure all the countries problems.. Get rid of the problem once and for all. Mengler had the same idea.... putting them down. I rarely get angry but the "stick everyone in the same camp theory" really does make me hoping mad. I really shouldnt read these sort of threads but you get disability allowance dont you, which you're obviously entitled too so none is knocking you in fact i'm not knocking anyone whos on hard times, i just think the system should help everyone when they are in need, and be careful to not help those that are not and just want handouts you def are not all in the same boat everyone wants and needs are different "Yes i dla.........for mobilty. It pays for my visits to hospital and the doctors and helps out when i need to hire a w/chair. I use it for what its for. But there is rarely any left for household expenditure. Im glad the council cant touch it...or that would bloody go too | |||
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"I know years ago you could earn a small amount of money, think it was £15 at the time without your money being reduced. Could you not do a bit of cleaning or dog walking or odd jobs to make the short fall up? £5 is the amount you can now earn without benefit being deducted. oh thanks i didnt know, they must of knocked that on the head as well then Stuff what they SAY you can earn without it being deducted, don't tell the fuckers. There is always a way you can make a little bit of money and anyone living on benefits that isn't earning a tiny bit on the side must be getting help elsewhere because you can't pay your bills on benefits. Start by selling some of your stuff on fleabay, once that's gone see what else you could sell, you can easily make £20 a week doing that. And for anyone that says oh that's terrible, you shouldn't rip off the government and should always tell every penny you have tell them they need a reality check." I don't actually think selling your belongings counts as benefit fraud, buying things to see does but if its yours and you sell it that's ok as far as im awear | |||
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"so what is wrong with my english then, that you couldnt understand then " Your posts were pretty hard to understand and i think people were trying to help by pointing out that you would probably have more success if you improved your written skills. However, that could just be the way you write online and your CV could be the model that shines | |||
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"If you knew that, why ask? does seem a odd question I would have thought everyone on benefits will be in the same situation I know people on benefits don't get much but surely they can afford £4.75 a week, most of them can afford to drink and smoke lol " What does that even mean. How do you know their personal circumstances. Thankfully, you haven't made a mass overgeneralisation statement. Oh. You have. | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation? "if you have catch up tv watch tonight that was on i think it was on tue there were 2 shows you want the one that was on at 19:30. tell you a lot in that show | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation?
How long do you plan on being unemployed? Surely it's a short term thing and you'll be out on the job trail Tuesday morning, yes? Then you can go back to paying the full CT bill we all have to pay.
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Is it me... Or is this programme only being rolled out in a trial area, not nationwide....???
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"I have to say that some posts here sum up the general _iew folk on benefits are all lazy or scroungers which is not the case far from it and the constant stigmatisation of those on benefits is disgraceful. What i will say and with best intentions is i genuinely hope the folk slagging folk off who are on benefits never end up in same position as you will find out exactly how hard real life actually is." have been layed off & made redundant three times in my working life.Have found a new job within a month eachtime.yes may not of been the ideal job i wanted.but i got up & out there & found them.!!! | |||
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"I have to say that some posts here sum up the general _iew folk on benefits are all lazy or scroungers which is not the case far from it and the constant stigmatisation of those on benefits is disgraceful. What i will say and with best intentions is i genuinely hope the folk slagging folk off who are on benefits never end up in same position as you will find out exactly how hard real life actually is. have been layed off & made redundant three times in my working life.Have found a new job within a month eachtime.yes may not of been the ideal job i wanted.but i got up & out there & found them.!!!" Same here though I resigned from a job I hated without a new one to go to, spent almost 24/7 on the internet, joined temp agencies and found work a two weeks later, then through another temp agency got a job where I am now and been here 6 years so it can be done | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation? "Sorry OP but you are on benefits, which means you are now a dependant of the state, and the state doesn't give a shit. Consider yourself powerless and at the mercy of the government unless you can get out from their grasp. Good luck with returning to paying 100% council tax. | |||
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"it would be easier if people learnt to read threads. he actually asked if anyone was in the same situation
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"I have to say that some posts here sum up the general _iew folk on benefits are all lazy or scroungers which is not the case far from it and the constant stigmatisation of those on benefits is disgraceful. What i will say and with best intentions is i genuinely hope the folk slagging folk off who are on benefits never end up in same position as you will find out exactly how hard real life actually is." Well said. | |||
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"Had a two year pay freeze, and so in real terms my salary has decresed. However my bills are continuing to rise. People on benefits are NOT the only people who are having losing out at the moment, everyone is. I wish we only had to pay £25 a month council tax instead of £130 a month! " Two years is that all - no pay increase for the last 4 years and nothing this year either | |||
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"I have to say that some posts here sum up the general _iew folk on benefits are all lazy or scroungers which is not the case far from it and the constant stigmatisation of those on benefits is disgraceful. What i will say and with best intentions is i genuinely hope the folk slagging folk off who are on benefits never end up in same position as you will find out exactly how hard real life actually is." I was on bebefits for a while due to not been able to get a job...This was down to personal circumstances so I for one understand real life... It is hard. The benefits system is there for those that need it. However what gets my goat is those that abuse it and commit benefit fraud. I work full time and really do struggle to make ends meet and live month to month. I have not had a holiday in 5 years as I can't afford to. Sometimes I get frustrated with the lack of help if you are single and earn just over the working tax credit element. I do wish the OP the best of luck in finding work but I do worry where I am £80 per month to pay the council tax and yes I do pay it as its a priorty debt. | |||
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" Same here though I resigned from a job I hated without a new one to go to, spent almost 24/7 on the internet, joined temp agencies and found work a two weeks later, then through another temp agency got a job where I am now and been here 6 years so it can be done
I appreciate what you are saying, and agree that those putting lots of effort it into job hunting will be rewarded, but the job market was in quite a different state 6 years ago. Might not be quite so simple these days. "the policies this govt are following is causing more unemployment and lots of jobs available are part time or very low paid,don't forget the party in power is the one who so vehemently opposed the minimum wage(can't count the lib dems,they change their minds/break pledges too easily:-at least both ends of society know where they stand with Cameron!) | |||
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"Nice to see the Govt. are succeeding in fooling people on here too in diverting the blame onto benefit "scroungers" for yet another thinly veiled attempt to force more money out of the general population to support the ongoing bailout of the financial system. Not that you are likely to meet any of them on Fabs, but have any of you outraged, tax-paying, hardworking Daily Mail readers even bothered asking why Britains top 1000 rich list have been allowed to avoid paying £28 billion capital gains tax on the £140 billion profit they have made since the 2008 crash? How about a further comment on the overall total owed by these mega scroungers, £88 billion! Enough to pay the deficit off and have £30 billion left which would allow large tax cuts and could even finance another war to take all our minds off being shafted by our own illustrious leaders! Much easier just to ridicule the unfortunates in society, call them names, further damage their confidence instead of offering to help. Fabs is not the biggest community in the UK but it's still a group of people with at least one common interest, even if together we could all help just one person out of the hole they have found themselves in that would surely be better than generalised venomous attacks on them on an internet forum. " | |||
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"Hi all I'm unemployed after working for 30 years and now I still have to pay Council Tax on Tuesday, anyone in the same situation? "It could be bedroom tax. If you have a spare room or a child over 25 still at home, you have to pay extra. This goverment fuckin suck ass. | |||
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"Wouldnt it make sense to give less and then take less? Benefit income= £50 per week Council tax and rent= £45 per week Why not just give them £5 per week? Disclaimer: All above quotes are estimations and can not be held responsible if wrong. They were actually considering giving housing benefit to claimants,instead of paying it direct to council/landlord! I so hope they never do that..... " if you live in private housing it's paid direct to the tenant anyway. You can only get it paid to your landlord if you are 8 or more weeks in areas. | |||
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"Surely after working 30 years you must have some savings to keep you going for a while? I appreciate this amount is going to be difficult for the long term unemployed to pay, but for someone who has been working for so long, 20 quid extra a month shouldnt be a big deal" would you not get redundancy pay after 30 years also? | |||
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"Had a two year pay freeze, and so in real terms my salary has decresed. However my bills are continuing to rise. People on benefits are NOT the only people who are having losing out at the moment, everyone is. I wish we only had to pay £25 a month council tax instead of £130 a month! Two years is that all - no pay increase for the last 4 years and nothing this year either "Likewise, then 10% of salary taken for pension contributions...never paid pension before, employer always paid it! Didn't pay uni fees either, but do now and my daughter is talking PhD...never mind, mustn't grumble I don't need two kidneys. | |||
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"Nice to see the Govt. are succeeding in fooling people on here too in diverting the blame onto benefit "scroungers" for yet another thinly veiled attempt to force more money out of the general population to support the ongoing bailout of the financial system. Not that you are likely to meet any of them on Fabs, but have any of you outraged, tax-paying, hardworking Daily Mail readers even bothered asking why Britains top 1000 rich list have been allowed to avoid paying £28 billion capital gains tax on the £140 billion profit they have made since the 2008 crash? How about a further comment on the overall total owed by these mega scroungers, £88 billion! Enough to pay the deficit off and have £30 billion left which would allow large tax cuts and could even finance another war to take all our minds off being shafted by our own illustrious leaders! Much easier just to ridicule the unfortunates in society, call them names, further damage their confidence instead of offering to help. Fabs is not the biggest community in the UK but it's still a group of people with at least one common interest, even if together we could all help just one person out of the hole they have found themselves in that would surely be better than generalised venomous attacks on them on an internet forum. "Correct me if I am wrong, but are there any/many forum topics from the working members of this site saying "I have not had a pay rise for 4 years, my council tax and all other bills have gone up etc etc, moan moan moan" or do they just get on with it and try to survive one way or another?? Maybe the fact that forum topics tend to be "I am on benefits and I now have to pay something extra...why us? etc etc" all the time?? Irrespective of anyone'e income, everyone should contribute. So if I pay 10% of my salary on Ctax, then the OP would be paying the equivalent of £26 per month......which he won't be, he will be paying less... I have been "on the dole" so am not a "benefits basher", I now work and cannot afford to live on my income either. I have had to take a lodger in to enable me to stay in my house. Can I just ask if the OP has sky tv or virgin packages etc? If so, get rid and there is your council tax paid! Want to do it? should you have to do it? "No", as much as I want a stranger living in my home but....shit happens!! xx | |||
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"Wouldnt it make sense to give less and then take less? Benefit income= £50 per week Council tax and rent= £45 per week Why not just give them £5 per week? Disclaimer: All above quotes are estimations and can not be held responsible if wrong. They were actually considering giving housing benefit to claimants,instead of paying it direct to council/landlord! I so hope they never do that..... if you live in private housing it's paid direct to the tenant anyway. You can only get it paid to your landlord if you are 8 or more weeks in areas. " However you can opt to having it paid direct to your landlord from the start of the tenancy or at any time as there is a tick box on the housing benefit form to have it paid direct to the landlord. At 8 weeks arrears we can apply for it to be paid direct to us without the tenants permission | |||
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"Wouldnt it make sense to give less and then take less? Benefit income= £50 per week Council tax and rent= £45 per week Why not just give them £5 per week? Disclaimer: All above quotes are estimations and can not be held responsible if wrong. They were actually considering giving housing benefit to claimants,instead of paying it direct to council/landlord! I so hope they never do that..... if you live in private housing it's paid direct to the tenant anyway. You can only get it paid to your landlord if you are 8 or more weeks in areas. However you can opt to having it paid direct to your landlord from the start of the tenancy or at any time as there is a tick box on the housing benefit form to have it paid direct to the landlord. At 8 weeks arrears we can apply for it to be paid direct to us without the tenants permission " Hate to burst your bubbles but with the new Universal Credit it will be paid in to the claimant's bank account on a monthly basis (as per wages) and that will include the equivalent of JSA and rent etc, so the claimant will have to manage their money and pay their rent themselves on a monthly basis! We can see the outcome of that for the less responsible claimants, but the government think people want to be treated like the working public and be treated as responsible adults. There will be a lot of claimant's who already manage their money but there will be a lot who will be spending their rent before it is due....creating another cycle of homeless people when they get booted out.... another government initiative well thought through!! xx | |||
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"Surely after working 30 years you must have some savings to keep you going for a while? I appreciate this amount is going to be difficult for the long term unemployed to pay, but for someone who has been working for so long, 20 quid extra a month shouldnt be a big deal would you not get redundancy pay after 30 years also?" Not if for example he has been unfairly dismissed , and redundancy payments often aren't the huge pot that people got in past years, statutory redundancy pay is not a lot unfortunately. No idea what the ops situation is. I was unfairly dismissed and won at tribunal, however by then it was too late, all my savings gone, the amount won is all gone, I have just sold my house at a loss to stay afloat, previously sold my car and got a cheap run about to aid the work chances etc. When I retrained to improve my chances my benefit was stopped as I wasn't actively seeking a job on minimum wage, I was doing something far better for the long term. After 20 years in senior retail mgt I stand little chance there at the moment, but you get no support. In brief, redundancy, savings, friends, family support doesn't keep you for long these days. And no pay rise for over 5 years when employed. | |||
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"Nice to see the Govt. are succeeding in fooling people on here too in diverting the blame onto benefit "scroungers" for yet another thinly veiled attempt to force more money out of the general population to support the ongoing bailout of the financial system. Not that you are likely to meet any of them on Fabs, but have any of you outraged, tax-paying, hardworking Daily Mail readers even bothered asking why Britains top 1000 rich list have been allowed to avoid paying £28 billion capital gains tax on the £140 billion profit they have made since the 2008 crash? How about a further comment on the overall total owed by these mega scroungers, £88 billion! Enough to pay the deficit off and have £30 billion left which would allow large tax cuts and could even finance another war to take all our minds off being shafted by our own illustrious leaders! Much easier just to ridicule the unfortunates in society, call them names, further damage their confidence instead of offering to help. Fabs is not the biggest community in the UK but it's still a group of people with at least one common interest, even if together we could all help just one person out of the hole they have found themselves in that would surely be better than generalised venomous attacks on them on an internet forum. "
every speech this govt make is aimed at attacking those on benefits:-just little phrases like " a budget aimed helping those working hard"! | |||
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"Nice to see the Govt. are succeeding in fooling people on here too in diverting the blame onto benefit "scroungers" for yet another thinly veiled attempt to force more money out of the general population to support the ongoing bailout of the financial system. Not that you are likely to meet any of them on Fabs, but have any of you outraged, tax-paying, hardworking Daily Mail readers even bothered asking why Britains top 1000 rich list have been allowed to avoid paying £28 billion capital gains tax on the £140 billion profit they have made since the 2008 crash? How about a further comment on the overall total owed by these mega scroungers, £88 billion! Enough to pay the deficit off and have £30 billion left which would allow large tax cuts and could even finance another war to take all our minds off being shafted by our own illustrious leaders! Much easier just to ridicule the unfortunates in society, call them names, further damage their confidence instead of offering to help. Fabs is not the biggest community in the UK but it's still a group of people with at least one common interest, even if together we could all help just one person out of the hole they have found themselves in that would surely be better than generalised venomous attacks on them on an internet forum.
Correct me if I am wrong, but are there any/many forum topics from the working members of this site saying "I have not had a pay rise for 4 years, my council tax and all other bills have gone up etc etc, moan moan moan" or do they just get on with it and try to survive one way or another??
Maybe the fact that forum topics tend to be "I am on benefits and I now have to pay something extra...why us? etc etc" all the time??
Irrespective of anyone'e income, everyone should contribute. So if I pay 10% of my salary on Ctax, then the OP would be paying the equivalent of £26 per month......which he won't be, he will be paying less...
I have been "on the dole" so am not a "benefits basher", I now work and cannot afford to live on my income either. I have had to take a lodger in to enable me to stay in my house.
Can I just ask if the OP has sky tv or virgin packages etc? If so, get rid and there is your council tax paid! Want to do it? should you have to do it? "No", as much as I want a stranger living in my home but....shit happens!!
xx"we would happily pay 10% or more of our monthly income:-that would still leave us enough to have a pretty good life,same can't be said of anybody on benefits paying 10% of what they receive,see govt divide and conquer policies aren't falling on deaf ears! | |||
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"Nice to see the Govt. are succeeding in fooling people on here too in diverting the blame onto benefit "scroungers" for yet another thinly veiled attempt to force more money out of the general population to support the ongoing bailout of the financial system. Not that you are likely to meet any of them on Fabs, but have any of you outraged, tax-paying, hardworking Daily Mail readers even bothered asking why Britains top 1000 rich list have been allowed to avoid paying £28 billion capital gains tax on the £140 billion profit they have made since the 2008 crash? How about a further comment on the overall total owed by these mega scroungers, £88 billion! Enough to pay the deficit off and have £30 billion left which would allow large tax cuts and could even finance another war to take all our minds off being shafted by our own illustrious leaders! Much easier just to ridicule the unfortunates in society, call them names, further damage their confidence instead of offering to help. Fabs is not the biggest community in the UK but it's still a group of people with at least one common interest, even if together we could all help just one person out of the hole they have found themselves in that would surely be better than generalised venomous attacks on them on an internet forum.
Correct me if I am wrong, but are there any/many forum topics from the working members of this site saying "I have not had a pay rise for 4 years, my council tax and all other bills have gone up etc etc, moan moan moan" or do they just get on with it and try to survive one way or another??
Maybe the fact that forum topics tend to be "I am on benefits and I now have to pay something extra...why us? etc etc" all the time??
Irrespective of anyone'e income, everyone should contribute. So if I pay 10% of my salary on Ctax, then the OP would be paying the equivalent of £26 per month......which he won't be, he will be paying less...
I have been "on the dole" so am not a "benefits basher", I now work and cannot afford to live on my income either. I have had to take a lodger in to enable me to stay in my house.
Can I just ask if the OP has sky tv or virgin packages etc? If so, get rid and there is your council tax paid! Want to do it? should you have to do it? "No", as much as I want a stranger living in my home but....shit happens!!
xx" ^^^This!!!! My point exactly, hence my "mustn't grumble" quip. You just do it when you work for it it appears! | |||
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"Nice to see the Govt. are succeeding in fooling people on here too in diverting the blame onto benefit "scroungers" for yet another thinly veiled attempt to force more money out of the general population to support the ongoing bailout of the financial system. Not that you are likely to meet any of them on Fabs, but have any of you outraged, tax-paying, hardworking Daily Mail readers even bothered asking why Britains top 1000 rich list have been allowed to avoid paying £28 billion capital gains tax on the £140 billion profit they have made since the 2008 crash? How about a further comment on the overall total owed by these mega scroungers, £88 billion! Enough to pay the deficit off and have £30 billion left which would allow large tax cuts and could even finance another war to take all our minds off being shafted by our own illustrious leaders! Much easier just to ridicule the unfortunates in society, call them names, further damage their confidence instead of offering to help. Fabs is not the biggest community in the UK but it's still a group of people with at least one common interest, even if together we could all help just one person out of the hole they have found themselves in that would surely be better than generalised venomous attacks on them on an internet forum. "
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"Wouldnt it make sense to give less and then take less? Benefit income= £50 per week Council tax and rent= £45 per week Why not just give them £5 per week? Disclaimer: All above quotes are estimations and can not be held responsible if wrong. They were actually considering giving housing benefit to claimants,instead of paying it direct to council/landlord! I so hope they never do that..... if you live in private housing it's paid direct to the tenant anyway. You can only get it paid to your landlord if you are 8 or more weeks in areas. However you can opt to having it paid direct to your landlord from the start of the tenancy or at any time as there is a tick box on the housing benefit form to have it paid direct to the landlord. At 8 weeks arrears we can apply for it to be paid direct to us without the tenants permission " not here you can't. They will not pay it unless in arrears | |||
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"OP, I'm in the situation. I now have to rely on my best friend to help me out money wise and I hate myself for it, I'm very depressed and can't handle being labeled as the scum of Britain. I just keep putting on a fake smile in front of others, but on the inside, its dangerously eating me up. I'd do ANYTHING to be working and be skint, than to be stuck on benefits and be skint." Not getting in a argument over beneifits and being skint as I wont go down too well, but you cant be that skint if you can afford a gold badge on here, I know what id be choosing if skint and its not this site that's for sure | |||
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