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Reports that electric cars are three times more likely to hit a pedestrian than diesel and petrol cars because they are very quiet. Why not have speakers that replicate petrol engines or play a tune. What would your tune be. It's all over the news |
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Same here not even come close to hitting anyone
Though I drive a loud diesel all over the country for work and have nearly wiped a few out
Seems their phones are so much more interesting than the big loud diesel engine about to squash them. |
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Back in the good old days when people were like proper hard, we looked both ways before crossing the road. Why do the snowflakes now demand that we cater to their laziness and expectation that people not be mowed down!
Society is going to the dogs. |
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Tbf, there are too many "shared" areas, where roads and pavements are blended and there is no clear distinction for pedestrians and road users. Whilst there's no evidence I can find that electric cars are any more risky than conventional fuel cars, the lack of clear routes for not-vehicles is of concern to many, e.g. people who are blind or partially sighted.
In an area near us, the council has installed continuous pavements that go straight over the road junctions but they did not (and still have not) installed tactile edging where the roadway begins, so anyone with poor sight (and a guide dog) would just carry on walking or moving. The problem is, whilst vehicles can see the continuous pavement, they have to stop so far short of the junction to allow pedestrians/wheelchairs to continue that they cannot see to pull out. Vehicles HAVE to pull over the continuous pavement to see if it's safe to proceed, which renders it pointless (and dangerous).
Also, most of the pavement in this area is now at exactly the same height as the roadway and the only distinguishing feature is that the pavement is one colour and the road another. But that's no use if you can't see properly and isn't how guide dogs are trained.
Basically, shit for disabled people. But charge it to the game, no? |
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"Tbf, there are too many "shared" areas, where roads and pavements are blended and there is no clear distinction for pedestrians and road users. Whilst there's no evidence I can find that electric cars are any more risky than conventional fuel cars, the lack of clear routes for not-vehicles is of concern to many, e.g. people who are blind or partially sighted.
In an area near us, the council has installed continuous pavements that go straight over the road junctions but they did not (and still have not) installed tactile edging where the roadway begins, so anyone with poor sight (and a guide dog) would just carry on walking or moving. The problem is, whilst vehicles can see the continuous pavement, they have to stop so far short of the junction to allow pedestrians/wheelchairs to continue that they cannot see to pull out. Vehicles HAVE to pull over the continuous pavement to see if it's safe to proceed, which renders it pointless (and dangerous).
Also, most of the pavement in this area is now at exactly the same height as the roadway and the only distinguishing feature is that the pavement is one colour and the road another. But that's no use if you can't see properly and isn't how guide dogs are trained.
Basically, shit for disabled people. But charge it to the game, no? "
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My own experience of evs:- Parked up in supermarket and walking to it from car. An ev was overtaking me from behind before I even heard it. I have decent hearing but it was very uncomfortable. Happened a couple of times. Be careful folks. |
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"Tom nearly got hit today by a lady in a Tesla reversing at him. Although electric, do they have mirrors?
Lots of cameras Tom , did you not hear it ? They make a chime when reversing. "
This bugger didn't
Was she a disgruntled Fabber in disguise? |
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"Tom nearly got hit today by a lady in a Tesla reversing at him. Although electric, do they have mirrors?
No, Tom. They don't put mirrors or cameras in the Teslas they sell to ladies. "
How the hell do they check their lippy  |
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"Tom nearly got hit today by a lady in a Tesla reversing at him. Although electric, do they have mirrors?
No, Tom. They don't put mirrors or cameras in the Teslas they sell to ladies.
How the hell do they check their lippy "
In their phone screens, silly  |
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"Tbf, there are too many "shared" areas, where roads and pavements are blended and there is no clear distinction for pedestrians and road users. Whilst there's no evidence I can find that electric cars are any more risky than conventional fuel cars, the lack of clear routes for not-vehicles is of concern to many, e.g. people who are blind or partially sighted.
In an area near us, the council has installed continuous pavements that go straight over the road junctions but they did not (and still have not) installed tactile edging where the roadway begins, so anyone with poor sight (and a guide dog) would just carry on walking or moving. The problem is, whilst vehicles can see the continuous pavement, they have to stop so far short of the junction to allow pedestrians/wheelchairs to continue that they cannot see to pull out. Vehicles HAVE to pull over the continuous pavement to see if it's safe to proceed, which renders it pointless (and dangerous).
Also, most of the pavement in this area is now at exactly the same height as the roadway and the only distinguishing feature is that the pavement is one colour and the road another. But that's no use if you can't see properly and isn't how guide dogs are trained.
Basically, shit for disabled people. But charge it to the game, no? "
Shared spaces don’t work. I get the idea - bikes, cars and motorbikes will slow down when pedestrians are around. Great in theory - less than great in practice.
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All new electric vehicles in the last few years must make a noise, under 12mph, if a remember correctly.
AVAS - Audible Vehicle Alert System
Over 12 mph - good luck I guess !! Although tyre and wind noise start to increase at that speed. Hopefully some boffins have some evidence to support |
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"I wish they would make ev slightly louder. I worry about my dad who has poor eyesight and relies on hearing cars.
'Hearing Cars?' Is that the car equivalent of a guide dog for the deaf? "
Yes Tom |
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"I wish they would make ev slightly louder. I worry about my dad who has poor eyesight and relies on hearing cars.
'Hearing Cars?' Is that the car equivalent of a guide dog for the deaf? "
No, he relies on being able to hear cars |
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"Tbf, there are too many "shared" areas, where roads and pavements are blended and there is no clear distinction for pedestrians and road users. Whilst there's no evidence I can find that electric cars are any more risky than conventional fuel cars, the lack of clear routes for not-vehicles is of concern to many, e.g. people who are blind or partially sighted.
In an area near us, the council has installed continuous pavements that go straight over the road junctions but they did not (and still have not) installed tactile edging where the roadway begins, so anyone with poor sight (and a guide dog) would just carry on walking or moving. The problem is, whilst vehicles can see the continuous pavement, they have to stop so far short of the junction to allow pedestrians/wheelchairs to continue that they cannot see to pull out. Vehicles HAVE to pull over the continuous pavement to see if it's safe to proceed, which renders it pointless (and dangerous).
Also, most of the pavement in this area is now at exactly the same height as the roadway and the only distinguishing feature is that the pavement is one colour and the road another. But that's no use if you can't see properly and isn't how guide dogs are trained.
Basically, shit for disabled people. But charge it to the game, no?
Shared spaces don’t work. I get the idea - bikes, cars and motorbikes will slow down when pedestrians are around. Great in theory - less than great in practice.
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Coming out of Sloane Square station is lethal now, so easy to walk into the path of a vehicle |
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The thing is it's going to become the norm in the future, we have a petrol and an electric car and we will be getting another electric car soon and just keeping the petrol car for longer journeys.
I did kill a squirrel the other day and bird's don't seem to fly off as soon when I'm driving the electric car so I can see where your coming from. |
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EVs are great at what they are good at, relatively short journeys in built up areas making the urban air less polluted. If you can charge at home.
Bloody annoying to go on holiday with, when you are juggling not being sure where the chargers are, whether they are working, and if there's a queue. I'll go back to hybrid for my next car... |
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"I wish they would make ev slightly louder. I worry about my dad who has poor eyesight and relies on hearing cars.
'Hearing Cars?' Is that the car equivalent of a guide dog for the deaf?
No, he relies on being able to hear cars "
Thank you for clearing that up.. |
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"All new electric vehicles in the last few years must make a noise, under 12mph, if a remember correctly.
AVAS - Audible Vehicle Alert System
Over 12 mph - good luck I guess !! Although tyre and wind noise start to increase at that speed. Hopefully some boffins have some evidence to support "
my hybrid quite often at less than 20mph is in ev mode... it's silent.. I've had a few people not notice me. Normally I have cars that you definitely hear them |
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