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Is a blow-job sex ?
What else is or isn't sex ?
If you're wife gave the bloke next door a blow job would you think.......ahhhhh that's nice, as long as they don't have sex.
If Dave over the back fingers your blokes arse is that 'not' sex either ?
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I do think the standard cockcentric, heteronormative ideas of what sex is still persists."
I have literally no idea what that means but it does sound horny. Is it a new position I haven’t heard of?
Oh and OP - yes a blowjob is sex. Even if she isn’t very good at it and it happens in a bad dream. |
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By (user no longer on site) 32 weeks ago
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I don't know, I've had oral sex with guys and I would never say I've had sex with them.
Though it's still cheating if we're going down that line.
This could have a huge impact on my body count so it's imperative we get an answer though granny.
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I do think the standard cockcentric, heteronormative ideas of what sex is still persists.
I have literally no idea what that means but it does sound horny. Is it a new position I haven’t heard of?
Oh and OP - yes a blowjob is sex. Even if she isn’t very good at it and it happens in a bad dream."
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By *eliWoman 32 weeks ago
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I do think the standard cockcentric, heteronormative ideas of what sex is still persists.
I have literally no idea what that means but it does sound horny. Is it a new position I haven’t heard of?
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Yes it is, you should really try it. Will probably leave you so tired you wouldn't need the gym after. |
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"I don't know, I've had oral sex with guys and I would never say I've had sex with them.
Though it's still cheating if we're going down that line.
This could have a huge impact on my body count so it's imperative we get an answer though granny.
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My ‘list’ doesn’t include people that I’ve just had oral sex with. |
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"I don't know, I've had oral sex with guys and I would never say I've had sex with them.
Though it's still cheating if we're going down that line.
This could have a huge impact on my body count so it's imperative we get an answer though granny.
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Imperative !!!! Too fuffin' right it's imperative........ most important issue of the day.
Uhmmmmm what sort of differential are we talking here ? Just a wee gap or miles and miles of coyote blows ? |
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"I don't know, I've had oral sex with guys and I would never say I've had sex with them.
Though it's still cheating if we're going down that line.
This could have a huge impact on my body count so it's imperative we get an answer though granny.
My ‘list’ doesn’t include people that I’ve just had oral sex with. "
Do you mean just ' this minute' or just as in only a blow job ? |
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I do think the standard cockcentric, heteronormative ideas of what sex is still persists.
I have literally no idea what that means but it does sound horny. Is it a new position I haven’t heard of?
Oh and OP - yes a blowjob is sex. Even if she isn’t very good at it and it happens in a bad dream.
Finger pointer !!"
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I do think the standard cockcentric, heteronormative ideas of what sex is still persists.
I have literally no idea what that means but it does sound horny. Is it a new position I haven’t heard of?
Yes it is, you should really try it. Will probably leave you so tired you wouldn't need the gym after."
Gym after daytime sex is the best but willing to adapt my routine if you think this will help. |
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"I don't know, I've had oral sex with guys and I would never say I've had sex with them.
Though it's still cheating if we're going down that line.
This could have a huge impact on my body count so it's imperative we get an answer though granny.
My ‘list’ doesn’t include people that I’ve just had oral sex with.
Do you mean just ' this minute' or just as in only a blow job ?"
Lol. Good point. Grammar matters! Sex that isn’t penetrative. |
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"Sex that isn't sex-
Does daydreaming about a
"Bad Coyote job" count? "
Now you are going to deep ! badumtish!!
Are dreams sex..... hmmmmmm nope. Are they if they are arousing tho ...... are they a nice dirty little prelude!
Can dreams come true ?
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I do think the standard cockcentric, heteronormative ideas of what sex is still persists.
I have literally no idea what that means but it does sound horny. Is it a new position I haven’t heard of?
Oh and OP - yes a blowjob is sex. Even if she isn’t very good at it and it happens in a bad dream."
You’re the man in Coyotes dream, aren’t you? |
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"Is a blow-job sex ?
What else is or isn't sex ?
If you're wife gave the bloke next door a blow job would you think.......ahhhhh that's nice, as long as they don't have sex.
If Dave over the back fingers your blokes arse is that 'not' sex either ?
( answers from a non swinging mind set pls )"
That depends on the definition you’re applying to the word sex? These days, sex generally is lazily used to describe intercourse instead of coitus. However it encompasses a much wider range of topics depending on how it’s used. Sex Education isn’t just solely on the act of intercourse even with the removal of the topic of puberty. So in one sense all the scenarios you mentioned include sex acts, are sexual in nature as part of sex as is masturbation for example. So they fall under the term of sex as they are sexual activities but all also very different from the intended meaning behind “having sex” aka intercourse x |
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"Is a blow-job sex ?
What else is or isn't sex ?
If you're wife gave the bloke next door a blow job would you think.......ahhhhh that's nice, as long as they don't have sex.
If Dave over the back fingers your blokes arse is that 'not' sex either ?
( answers from a non swinging mind set pls )
That depends on the definition you’re applying to the word sex? These days, sex generally is lazily used to describe intercourse instead of coitus. However it encompasses a much wider range of topics depending on how it’s used. Sex Education isn’t just solely on the act of intercourse even with the removal of the topic of puberty. So in one sense all the scenarios you mentioned include sex acts, are sexual in nature as part of sex as is masturbation for example. So they fall under the term of sex as they are sexual activities but all also very different from the intended meaning behind “having sex” aka intercourse x"
And after all that deliberation 'politician James' ......
What's your answer ? |
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"If it involves those carnal urges and some genitalia then it's sex to me 
Me too .......BUT
If it involves carnal urges a good snog and an arousing over the clothes tit rub ..... is that sex ? "
Let’s try it and see how we feel after… |
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"If it involves those carnal urges and some genitalia then it's sex to me
Me too .......BUT
If it involves carnal urges a good snog and an arousing over the clothes tit rub ..... is that sex ? "
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"If it involves those carnal urges and some genitalia then it's sex to me
Me too .......BUT
If it involves carnal urges a good snog and an arousing over the clothes tit rub ..... is that sex ? "
Are tits genitalia now?  |
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I do think the standard cockcentric, heteronormative ideas of what sex is still persists.
I have literally no idea what that means but it does sound horny. Is it a new position I haven’t heard of?
Oh and OP - yes a blowjob is sex. Even if she isn’t very good at it and it happens in a bad dream.
You’re the man in Coyotes dream, aren’t you?"
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By *eliWoman 32 weeks ago
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"If it involves those carnal urges and some genitalia then it's sex to me
Me too .......BUT
If it involves carnal urges a good snog and an arousing over the clothes tit rub ..... is that sex ?
Are tits genitalia now? "
But I can climax through erm nipple stimulation. So is that only sex because I can climax? Not because tits are erogenous zones? |
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"If it involves those carnal urges and some genitalia then it's sex to me
Me too .......BUT
If it involves carnal urges a good snog and an arousing over the clothes tit rub ..... is that sex ?
Are tits genitalia now?
But I can climax through erm nipple stimulation. So is that only sex because I can climax? Not because tits are erogenous zones? "
Does sex require a climax? |
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"If it involves those carnal urges and some genitalia then it's sex to me
Me too .......BUT
If it involves carnal urges a good snog and an arousing over the clothes tit rub ..... is that sex ?
Are tits genitalia now? "
No ! My question still stands. Get your head out of your fanny ! |
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By *eliWoman 32 weeks ago
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"If it involves those carnal urges and some genitalia then it's sex to me
Me too .......BUT
If it involves carnal urges a good snog and an arousing over the clothes tit rub ..... is that sex ?
Are tits genitalia now?
But I can climax through erm nipple stimulation. So is that only sex because I can climax? Not because tits are erogenous zones?
Does sex require a climax?"
No. There are so many questions. :D Tits aren't genitalia but they can be part of a sex act (without a penis). |
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"If it involves those carnal urges and some genitalia then it's sex to me
Me too .......BUT
If it involves carnal urges a good snog and an arousing over the clothes tit rub ..... is that sex ?
Are tits genitalia now?
But I can climax through erm nipple stimulation. So is that only sex because I can climax? Not because tits are erogenous zones? "
I thought it was just me ..... I was getting a bit ... uhmmmm warm thinking about it.
Over the clothes tho .... over the clothes....... so fooking dirty done well. |
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"If it involves those carnal urges and some genitalia then it's sex to me
Me too .......BUT
If it involves carnal urges a good snog and an arousing over the clothes tit rub ..... is that sex ?
Are tits genitalia now?
But I can climax through erm nipple stimulation. So is that only sex because I can climax? Not because tits are erogenous zones?
Does sex require a climax?"
No. |
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"No ! My question still stands. Get your head out of your fanny ! "
If my head would reach I'd never be able to post on here
It wouldn't count for me. Kissing and over the clothes isn't sex for me. Once it's under the clothes maybe.
But a good clothed fumble is still amazing |
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"If it involves those carnal urges and some genitalia then it's sex to me
Me too .......BUT
If it involves carnal urges a good snog and an arousing over the clothes tit rub ..... is that sex ? "
It depends how you look at this -
Would I class a kiss and titting someone up as sex? - no.
If we played with each other genitals then I’d say it was sex.
Would I be cheating if I did any of this behind my partners back? - yes.
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By (user no longer on site) 32 weeks ago
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"Is a blow-job sex ?
What else is or isn't sex ?
If you're wife gave the bloke next door a blow job would you think.......ahhhhh that's nice, as long as they don't have sex.
If Dave over the back fingers your blokes arse is that 'not' sex either ?
( answers from a non swinging mind set pls )"
I think that you will find Bill Clinton answered that question "I did not have sex with that woman". So the Presidet decreed that oral sex is not sex.
Now maybe President Trump has a view too... |
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"I think it being sex is largely about intent. If you’re overtly trying to turn someone on it’s probably sex. Genitalia need not be involved. "
So I've had sex with every guy I've flirted with? |
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"I think it being sex is largely about intent. If you’re overtly trying to turn someone on it’s probably sex. Genitalia need not be involved.
So I've had sex with every guy I've flirted with?"
Are you overtly trying to arouse them when you flirt?
I’d argue it can be sex without even touching each other. |
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"Is a blow-job sex ?
What else is or isn't sex ?
If you're wife gave the bloke next door a blow job would you think.......ahhhhh that's nice, as long as they don't have sex.
If Dave over the back fingers your blokes arse is that 'not' sex either ?
( answers from a non swinging mind set pls )
That depends on the definition you’re applying to the word sex? These days, sex generally is lazily used to describe intercourse instead of coitus. However it encompasses a much wider range of topics depending on how it’s used. Sex Education isn’t just solely on the act of intercourse even with the removal of the topic of puberty. So in one sense all the scenarios you mentioned include sex acts, are sexual in nature as part of sex as is masturbation for example. So they fall under the term of sex as they are sexual activities but all also very different from the intended meaning behind “having sex” aka intercourse x
And after all that deliberation 'politician James' ......
What's your answer ?"
What’s the definition your applying to the word sex? Lol |
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It's an interesting Q for sure... I've had intense BDSM sessions that haven't actually involved vaginal penis penetration but have involved everything else |
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"Blow job is not sex it's a sexual act.
Surely a sexual act is sex. It’s in the name.
Would you say flogging is sex or a sexual act ? "
Yes to the initiated. To me it's just getting battered but there are many many many who get wet or hard on that |
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"Blow job is not sex it's a sexual act.
Surely a sexual act is sex. It’s in the name.
Would you say flogging is sex or a sexual act ?
Yes to the initiated. To me it's just getting battered but there are many many many who get wet or hard on that "
As someone who greatly gets off on impact play, I absolutely do not consider it sex. It's a separate thing entirely for me. It's not a prelude or entryway to boning down.
Sometimes I get wet having a daydream. Daydreaming isn't a sexual act. Sometimes my cunt just gets overexcited for no discernable reason. Something arousing existing in my sphere of experience isn't a sexual act either |
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"Blow job is not sex it's a sexual act.
Surely a sexual act is sex. It’s in the name.
Would you say flogging is sex or a sexual act ?
Yes?
Which one sex or sexual act ? There is no penetration"
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wow - well sexual is anything even cam and phone stuff - but fucking sex is fucking sex and other fumbling is classed as sexual milord !!!!
depends who is defining it - got a mental image now of everyone sat in the pub fingering and wanking each other over a pint !!  |
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"Blow job is not sex it's a sexual act.
Surely a sexual act is sex. It’s in the name.
Would you say flogging is sex or a sexual act ?
Yes?
Which one sex or sexual act ? There is no penetration
Are lifelong lesbians virgins?"
I was referring to having an orgasm from just flogging would that count as sex or a sexual act. |
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"It's splitting hairs really, anything that involves your genitals or being aroused to me is sex
So if you see a good looking man and go "wow yes" you would count that as sex ? "
Don't be so ridiculous. If he touched my genitals or vice versa then yes probably. It doesn't necessarily mean penetrative (to me) |
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"Yes oral sex is sex. I'm not a swinger so I don't have that mindset to comment from.
I do think the standard cockcentric, heteronormative ideas of what sex is still persists."
I think you are correct. Additionally, I would posit that binary oppositions can indicate phallogocentricism. |
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"I've just got the train home and shared a seat with a hard thighed bloke who was manspreading.....
I shoved against his leg to get him on his own seat....
Was that sex ?"
Better get a pregnancy test granny.
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"Blow job is not sex it's a sexual act.
Surely a sexual act is sex. It’s in the name.
Would you say flogging is sex or a sexual act ?
Yes to the initiated. To me it's just getting battered but there are many many many who get wet or hard on that
As someone who greatly gets off on impact play, I absolutely do not consider it sex. It's a separate thing entirely for me. It's not a prelude or entryway to boning down.
Sometimes I get wet having a daydream. Daydreaming isn't a sexual act. Sometimes my cunt just gets overexcited for no discernable reason. Something arousing existing in my sphere of experience isn't a sexual act either "
Is it possible for you to be any more sexy?
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"It's splitting hairs really, anything that involves your genitals or being aroused to me is sex
So if you see a good looking man and go "wow yes" you would count that as sex ?
Don't be so ridiculous. If he touched my genitals or vice versa then yes probably. It doesn't necessarily mean penetrative (to me)"
You said anything that aroused your genitalia is sex , you don't have to touch your genitalia to be aroused. Or to have an orgasm. |
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"I've just got the train home and shared a seat with a hard thighed bloke who was manspreading.....
I shoved against his leg to get him on his own seat....
Was that sex ?
Did he buy you a drink?"
Damn! No! I'm slippin' |
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"I've just got the train home and shared a seat with a hard thighed bloke who was manspreading.....
I shoved against his leg to get him on his own seat....
Was that sex ?
Did he buy you a drink?
Damn! No! I'm slippin' "
That'll be because you're nearly 'elderly'.  |
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"It's splitting hairs really, anything that involves your genitals or being aroused to me is sex
So if you see a good looking man and go "wow yes" you would count that as sex ?
Don't be so ridiculous. If he touched my genitals or vice versa then yes probably. It doesn't necessarily mean penetrative (to me)
You said anything that aroused your genitalia is sex , you don't have to touch your genitalia to be aroused. Or to have an orgasm. "
I do |
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I think the question is potentially phrased wrong it's not so much about the act in this case it's about the definition of what's cheating and that's entirely different for every couple I guess. And a topic rarely visited by those in vanilla monogamous relationships |
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"I think the question is potentially phrased wrong it's not so much about the act in this case it's about the definition of what's cheating and that's entirely different for every couple I guess. And a topic rarely visited by those in vanilla monogamous relationships"
That might be your question but that wasn't my question and it's not about being monogamous or about cheating ...... it's simply when is an act sex and when isn't it ..... |
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"I think the question is potentially phrased wrong it's not so much about the act in this case it's about the definition of what's cheating and that's entirely different for every couple I guess. And a topic rarely visited by those in vanilla monogamous relationships"
Cheating can be messaging over an extended period or occasionally meeting for a coffee.
Can take many forms, not just a twenty minute bit of list or a booty call. |
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"I think the question is potentially phrased wrong it's not so much about the act in this case it's about the definition of what's cheating and that's entirely different for every couple I guess. And a topic rarely visited by those in vanilla monogamous relationships
That might be your question but that wasn't my question and it's not about being monogamous or about cheating ...... it's simply when is an act sex and when isn't it ....."
So that much I get and understand, I think what threw me off was the from a non swinging perspective. Surely that could be as unique to one as to the other depending on dynamics in a couples relationship....swingers or not |
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"It's splitting hairs really, anything that involves your genitals or being aroused to me is sex
So if you see a good looking man and go "wow yes" you would count that as sex ?
Don't be so ridiculous. If he touched my genitals or vice versa then yes probably. It doesn't necessarily mean penetrative (to me)
You said anything that aroused your genitalia is sex , you don't have to touch your genitalia to be aroused. Or to have an orgasm.
I do"
You need your genitalia to be touched to get aroused or to have an orgasm? |
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By *TG3Man 31 weeks ago
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"Is a blow-job sex ?
What else is or isn't sex ?
If you're wife gave the bloke next door a blow job would you think.......ahhhhh that's nice, as long as they don't have sex.
If Dave over the back fingers your blokes arse is that 'not' sex either ?
( answers from a non swinging mind set pls )"
Sorry granny sex is sex in all its forms, I'd say anything you get bodily pleasure out of is sex |
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"Blow job is not sex it's a sexual act.
Surely a sexual act is sex. It’s in the name.
Would you say flogging is sex or a sexual act ?
Yes to the initiated. To me it's just getting battered but there are many many many who get wet or hard on that
As someone who greatly gets off on impact play, I absolutely do not consider it sex. It's a separate thing entirely for me. It's not a prelude or entryway to boning down.
Sometimes I get wet having a daydream. Daydreaming isn't a sexual act. Sometimes my cunt just gets overexcited for no discernable reason. Something arousing existing in my sphere of experience isn't a sexual act either "
Yeah definitely, I completely agree. I wouldn’t say impact play is a sexual activity or part of sex. Like wise a lot of people enjoy a lot of Dom/ Sub play without any sexual contact. Where arousal or sexual gratification isn’t the aim of things. Though I’m not an expert if honest, just my limited understanding.
Likewise with daydreaming or the after effects of mental arousal. They definitely can’t count as sex under any term of use of “Sex”. If that counted there would be no such thing as a virgin after puberty started lol x
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What’s people thoughts on a tantric massage apposed to tantric sex. As part of the massage it involves yoni or lingame however the intension isn’t for sexual gratification even though it can often lead to orgasm, which isn’t the intended reason behind the act. It more coincidental if someone orgasms as a side effect.
So would you say it’s sex or not? x
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"Is a blow-job sex ?
What else is or isn't sex ?
If you're wife gave the bloke next door a blow job would you think.......ahhhhh that's nice, as long as they don't have sex.
If Dave over the back fingers your blokes arse is that 'not' sex either ?
( answers from a non swinging mind set pls )"
Any genital contact is sex |
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As for where the line starts, it’s perhaps a little blurry, depending on who’s involved.