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"After 193 years this gentlemns club has decided to admit women after traditionally it has had male members only. Not Tom remembers when his old Working Men's Club was men only and the local Conservative club was men only until Margaret Thatcher arrived on scene. Surely in 2024 we should be able to have men only, women only or mixed. The women have the Womens Institute. Wokeness gone mad. What's going on here. It's all over the news" Thought I read Garlic | |||
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" Not Tom remembers when ......" Uh Oh, are we also adding a split personality to the third party Tom persona? Will Not Tom posts include some facts for extra context? Gbat (Not Batty) | |||
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"Surely in 2024 we should be able to have men only, women only or mixed." Excluding people from something on the grounds of gender, orientation, race or religion is abhorrent and shouldn’t be tolerated in the 21st century. | |||
"After 193 years this gentlemns club has decided to admit women after traditionally it has had male members only. Not Tom remembers when his old Working Men's Club was men only and the local Conservative club was men only until Margaret Thatcher arrived on scene. Surely in 2024 we should be able to have men only, women only or mixed. The women have the Womens Institute. Wokeness gone mad. What's going on here. It's all over the news" Are you sexist We live in 21st century No more divide and man will conquer Maggie never changed exist we do. Pubs too were for working man but 1950s were man went to work woman stayed at home. Women were not allowed to work. Times were so different. Except I remember women going down mines and keeping factories going. Working the fields growing crops during the last few centuries. Men still get paid twice as much as men so yeah..equality. | |||
"After 193 years this gentlemns club has decided to admit women after traditionally it has had male members only. Not Tom remembers when his old Working Men's Club was men only and the local Conservative club was men only until Margaret Thatcher arrived on scene. Surely in 2024 we should be able to have men only, women only or mixed. The women have the Womens Institute. Wokeness gone mad. What's going on here. It's all over the news Are you sexist We live in 21st century No more divide and man will conquer Maggie never changed exist we do. Pubs too were for working man but 1950s were man went to work woman stayed at home. Women were not allowed to work. Times were so different. Except I remember women going down mines and keeping factories going. Working the fields growing crops during the last few centuries. Men still get paid twice as much as men so yeah..equality." This Samsung phone..Maggie never changed sexism we do | |||
"Surely in 2024 we should be able to have men only, women only or mixed. Excluding people from something on the grounds of gender, orientation, race or religion is abhorrent and shouldn’t be tolerated in the 21st century." What should happen with Henley women’s regatta then? Should it be abolished? Should they be forced to include men’s events? | |||
" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. " Like the Shed clubs I see only for men  | |||
"After 193 years this gentlemns club has decided to admit women after traditionally it has had male members only. Not Tom remembers when his old Working Men's Club was men only and the local Conservative club was men only until Margaret Thatcher arrived on scene. Surely in 2024 we should be able to have men only, women only or mixed. The women have the Womens Institute. Wokeness gone mad. What's going on here. It's all over the news Are you sexist We live in 21st century No more divide and man will conquer Maggie never changed exist we do. Pubs too were for working man but 1950s were man went to work woman stayed at home. Women were not allowed to work. Times were so different. Except I remember women going down mines and keeping factories going. Working the fields growing crops during the last few centuries. Men still get paid twice as much as men so yeah..equality." “Men get paid twice as much as men” … I take it you meant women, but where did you get that statistic? I looked up the ONS stats, and the gender gap i saw was 7.7 percent. | |||
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" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Like the Shed clubs I see only for men "What’s your thoughts on Henley women’s regatta? Ok to exclude men? | |||
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" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. " Separate sports events based upon sex are not uncommon, so yes it's perfectly ok.. | |||
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" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Like the Shed clubs I see only for men
What’s your thoughts on Henley women’s regatta? Ok to exclude men? "The boat race..still male orientated. Most lawyers are men. Mps are majority male Women's football was never aired All male domineering | |||
"There's nothing wrong with equality and people getting access to the levers of power, in equitable ways. The stuffy old cliques are a thing of the past" Would you want to be a member of a club full of men who were happy to join a men-only club? Not sure I would. I was in one of the Pall Mall clubs (a friend was staying there, so we met for a drink), and one of the bars was men-only. We didn’t go there … | |||
" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Separate sports events based upon sex are not uncommon, so yes it's perfectly ok.." Any male-only rowing regattas? I can’t think of any. It’s a sport I know pretty well, and don’t know if any male-only clubs or events. | |||
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" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Like the Shed clubs I see only for men
What’s your thoughts on Henley women’s regatta? Ok to exclude men?
The boat race..still male orientated.
Most lawyers are men.
Mps are majority male
Women's football was never aired
All male domineering "How is the boat race male-oriented? The women’s race is now on the came course, on the same day, on the same tv channels. Interestingly, re football, women’s football is increasing in popularity and exposure because more women’s football is free-to-air than men’s. | |||
"Tbh ...I'm less bothered about them admitting women than I am about it being a club and network for the wealthy...to do deals behind closed doors. " Exactly this times 1000. It's the powerful and wealthy women thinking that they are missing out on become more wealthy and more powerful. Considering people are really struggling to pay their engery bills and feed themselves, we could really do with less people like this in the world. We should really be protesting at why places like this exist in the first place. | |||
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"Surely in 2024 we should be able to have men only, women only or mixed. Excluding people from something on the grounds of gender, orientation, race or religion is abhorrent and shouldn’t be tolerated in the 21st century." That's the Women's Institute fucked then | |||
"Tbh ...I'm less bothered about them admitting women than I am about it being a club and network for the wealthy...to do deals behind closed doors. Exactly this times 1000. It's the powerful and wealthy women thinking that they are missing out on become more wealthy and more powerful. Considering people are really struggling to pay their engery bills and feed themselves, we could really do with less people like this in the world. We should really be protesting at why places like this exist in the first place." On what basis would you be protesting? Let’s take the army and navy club, for example. Or the Oxford and Cambridge. What is wrong with these people clubbing together, buying, developing and maintaining a premises, and using it as their place to stay when in London, or to meet people from the same institution for meals, drinks etc, or use the gyms, pools etc? I’m not a member of any of these clubs, but not sure why anyone would want to protest about them. What outcome would you be asking for with your protest? | |||
"The women's institute has long admitted men Tom. " So why do they call I the WI? And what about the toilets ? | |||
" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Like the Shed clubs I see only for men
What’s your thoughts on Henley women’s regatta? Ok to exclude men?
The boat race..still male orientated.
Most lawyers are men.
Mps are majority male
Women's football was never aired
All male domineering "If it's equality of outcome that is needed then let's equalize that. More men are in prison More men die in wars More men work outside More men work dangerous jobs | |||
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" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Like the Shed clubs I see only for men
What’s your thoughts on Henley women’s regatta? Ok to exclude men? "Henley Regatta started in 1839, the first Henley women's regatta in 1988...take a wild guess as to why it was started?? Let me help you out, it was because women were not allowed events at the original one...that is, they were EXCLUDED... Please also see the MOBOs and other examples...  | |||
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"Surely in 2024 we should be able to have men only, women only or mixed. Excluding people from something on the grounds of gender, orientation, race or religion is abhorrent and shouldn’t be tolerated in the 21st century. That's the Women's Institute fucked then" Not to mention Mumsnet | |||
"Think the problem is money as with everything, you're cutting out half the revenue just by not allowing them in "I’m not sure that financial concerns were to the fore in the case of the Garrick. Was the place struggling financially? I know some clubs are struggling, and the ones I know of aren’t men-only …. The Carnegie club, for example. Others are absolutely thriving. Good luck trying to join the hurlingham, for example | |||
" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Like the Shed clubs I see only for men
What’s your thoughts on Henley women’s regatta? Ok to exclude men?
Henley Regatta started in 1839, the first Henley women's regatta in 1988...take a wild guess as to why it was started?? Let me help you out, it was because women were not allowed events at the original one...that is, they were EXCLUDED...
Please also see the MOBOs and other examples...
"Quite rightly, HRR now has lots of women’s and girls events. So the outlier is HWR. What do you think should happen with HWR? Disband? Force them to put on men’s events? Or leave it as is, ok to have a women-only event? | |||
"Is this deliberate to stop us asking about Gaza/ukraine/tories/drake-kendrick beef ? If so can the men, women, elitists, working class etc just remember we are on a space rock hurtling through infinite nothingness, we have but a short time, don’t waste it " No, I really don’t think the Garrick story is masking other events. It’s a squabble in a club that most of us have no interest in. | |||
"I've always wanted to go to a WI meeting so it's good we're finally breaking down these barriers." You can go to meetings or events but you can't be a member unless you're "living as a woman". There was a proper brouhaha a couple of months ago over the lack of definition around what exactly that meant. | |||
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One day we’ll see true equality and men will be able to have their own “safe spaces” to do their manly stuff in peace , or at least pay for what they use!  | |||
" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Like the Shed clubs I see only for men
What’s your thoughts on Henley women’s regatta? Ok to exclude men?
Henley Regatta started in 1839, the first Henley women's regatta in 1988...take a wild guess as to why it was started?? Let me help you out, it was because women were not allowed events at the original one...that is, they were EXCLUDED...
Please also see the MOBOs and other examples...
Quite rightly, HRR now has lots of women’s and girls events. So the outlier is HWR.
What do you think should happen with HWR? Disband? Force them to put on men’s events? Or leave it as is, ok to have a women-only event? "Personally, why not leave it as is, unless the main regatta wants to assimilate?? I'll never understand people getting so bugged out by others doing something off their own back when they've been excluded elsewhere... | |||
" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Like the Shed clubs I see only for men
What’s your thoughts on Henley women’s regatta? Ok to exclude men?
Henley Regatta started in 1839, the first Henley women's regatta in 1988...take a wild guess as to why it was started?? Let me help you out, it was because women were not allowed events at the original one...that is, they were EXCLUDED...
Please also see the MOBOs and other examples...
Quite rightly, HRR now has lots of women’s and girls events. So the outlier is HWR.
What do you think should happen with HWR? Disband? Force them to put on men’s events? Or leave it as is, ok to have a women-only event?
Personally, why not leave it as is, unless the main regatta wants to assimilate?? I'll never understand people getting so bugged out by others doing something off their own back when they've been excluded elsewhere..."So you’re ok with women-only regattas then. That’s fine. Thanks I’m not “bugged out” by hwr. I will be attending, as it happens. But it is quite odd that they set up as a reaction to a men-only event and are now doing the exact same thing themselves despite HRR moving with the times | |||
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"I've always wanted to go to a WI meeting so it's good we're finally breaking down these barriers." Go for it. Will you take along your trademark marmalade and onion chutney? | |||
"I've always wanted to go to a WI meeting so it's good we're finally breaking down these barriers. Go for it. Will you take along your trademark marmalade and onion chutney?" That’s my best guess | |||
" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Like the Shed clubs I see only for men
What’s your thoughts on Henley women’s regatta? Ok to exclude men?
Henley Regatta started in 1839, the first Henley women's regatta in 1988...take a wild guess as to why it was started?? Let me help you out, it was because women were not allowed events at the original one...that is, they were EXCLUDED...
Please also see the MOBOs and other examples...
Quite rightly, HRR now has lots of women’s and girls events. So the outlier is HWR.
What do you think should happen with HWR? Disband? Force them to put on men’s events? Or leave it as is, ok to have a women-only event?
Personally, why not leave it as is, unless the main regatta wants to assimilate?? I'll never understand people getting so bugged out by others doing something off their own back when they've been excluded elsewhere...
So you’re ok with women-only regattas then. That’s fine. Thanks
I’m not “bugged out” by hwr. I will be attending, as it happens. But it is quite odd that they set up as a reaction to a men-only event and are now doing the exact same thing themselves despite HRR moving with the times "I didn't say YOU were bugged out - my point is, that if people are excluded from events, institutions etc., there comes a time when they'll find a way to enjoy the same experiences for themselves, and it's a tad hypocritical for those that excluded them (in this case, for over a century!!) to complain that they themselves have been "excluded"?? The others just found another way. And that's "odd" to you? But whatever. | |||
" I have no problem with men-only, women-only social clubs. I’m not interested in being a member of such a club, but if men set up a club and want it to remain men-only, that’s fine with me. Likewise, women-only clubs. I live in Henley in Thames, home to Henley royal regatta. It is also home to Henley women’s regatta, which runs a few weeks earlier … a large event for which crews travel from around the UK, Ireland, and many crews from the US. No men’s events, no boys events. Somehow, it’s ok for a large event like that to exclude men/boys. Like the Shed clubs I see only for men
What’s your thoughts on Henley women’s regatta? Ok to exclude men?
Henley Regatta started in 1839, the first Henley women's regatta in 1988...take a wild guess as to why it was started?? Let me help you out, it was because women were not allowed events at the original one...that is, they were EXCLUDED...
Please also see the MOBOs and other examples...
Quite rightly, HRR now has lots of women’s and girls events. So the outlier is HWR.
What do you think should happen with HWR? Disband? Force them to put on men’s events? Or leave it as is, ok to have a women-only event?
Personally, why not leave it as is, unless the main regatta wants to assimilate?? I'll never understand people getting so bugged out by others doing something off their own back when they've been excluded elsewhere...
So you’re ok with women-only regattas then. That’s fine. Thanks
I’m not “bugged out” by hwr. I will be attending, as it happens. But it is quite odd that they set up as a reaction to a men-only event and are now doing the exact same thing themselves despite HRR moving with the times
I didn't say YOU were bugged out - my point is, that if people are excluded from events, institutions etc., there comes a time when they'll find a way to enjoy the same experiences for themselves, and it's a tad hypocritical for those that excluded them (in this case, for over a century!!) to complain that they themselves have been "excluded"?? The others just found another way. And that's "odd" to you?
But whatever. "Hi. Who is complaining/ hypocritical about being excluded? I pointed out the anomaly, that’s all. Hwr now fulfils a need that no longer exists, a solution without a problem . Strange situation. | |||
