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"So i missed the bear thing that's doing the rounds on social media and can't find a thread on the forum The hypothetical question posed to women was: if you were alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a bear or a man? The majority of women say they would feel more comfortable choosing a bear and taking their chances, because it's less likely to attack them /will likely run away (unless its hungry!) ... Whereas they felt that men were 'scary' and more than likely would attack them [vs the bear] What did everyone make of this? It's quite a shocking reflection on society as a whole I wondered if it was a generational thing too maybe? " I wouldn't trust either to be fair but if you met me in the woods I'd be an absolute gentleman | |||
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"So i missed the bear thing that's doing the rounds on social media and can't find a thread on the forum The hypothetical question posed to women was: if you were alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a bear or a man? The majority of women say they would feel more comfortable choosing a bear and taking their chances, because it's less likely to attack them /will likely run away (unless its hungry!) ... Whereas they felt that men were 'scary' and more than likely would attack them [vs the bear] What did everyone make of this? It's quite a shocking reflection on society as a whole I wondered if it was a generational thing too maybe? I wouldn't trust either to be fair but if you met me in the woods I'd be an absolute gentleman " but thinking about it why would you be in the woods? | |||
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"So i missed the bear thing that's doing the rounds on social media and can't find a thread on the forum The hypothetical question posed to women was: if you were alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a bear or a man? The majority of women say they would feel more comfortable choosing a bear and taking their chances, because it's less likely to attack them /will likely run away (unless its hungry!) ... Whereas they felt that men were 'scary' and more than likely would attack them [vs the bear] What did everyone make of this? It's quite a shocking reflection on society as a whole I wondered if it was a generational thing too maybe? " I suppose if the question is turned around and the question is woman or bear | |||
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"I find it very sad and blame the media. Statistics on crime make men more likely to be the victims of crime, yet it's women who are taught to be scared. This does a disservice to both men and women. I have no idea what the solution is though. " I totally agree with this and my fear is it will only get worse in time. | |||
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"So i missed the bear thing that's doing the rounds on social media and can't find a thread on the forum The hypothetical question posed to women was: if you were alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a bear or a man? The majority of women say they would feel more comfortable choosing a bear and taking their chances, because it's less likely to attack them /will likely run away (unless its hungry!) ... Whereas they felt that men were 'scary' and more than likely would attack them [vs the bear] What did everyone make of this? It's quite a shocking reflection on society as a whole I wondered if it was a generational thing too maybe? I suppose if the question is turned around and the question is woman or bear " The women were also asked this and chose the lady. | |||
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"So i missed the bear thing that's doing the rounds on social media and can't find a thread on the forum The hypothetical question posed to women was: if you were alone in the woods, would you rather encounter a bear or a man? The majority of women say they would feel more comfortable choosing a bear and taking their chances, because it's less likely to attack them /will likely run away (unless its hungry!) ... Whereas they felt that men were 'scary' and more than likely would attack them [vs the bear] What did everyone make of this? It's quite a shocking reflection on society as a whole I wondered if it was a generational thing too maybe? I wouldn't trust either to be fair but if you met me in the woods I'd be an absolute gentleman but thinking about it why would you be in the woods? " Taking a shit! | |||
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"I find it very sad and blame the media. Statistics on crime make men more likely to be the victims of crime, yet it's women who are taught to be scared. This does a disservice to both men and women. I have no idea what the solution is though. I totally agree with this and my fear is it will only get worse in time." Of course it will. With stories like this. Men are becoming stereotyped into bastards, and it’s sad. I’m not excusing anyone who’s done any atrocious to anyone. But it is not the norm. There are powerfuly good men who do good things for people on a daily basis that will never make headlines. | |||
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" What I resent more I think, is the idea that not liking or agreeing with the idea that I'm more dangerous than a bear somehow makes me "the problem" and "clearly a threat to women". " I so, so agree with you. This whole approach to conversation of ‘agree with me or I label you the problem’ is so disingenuous. I’m tired of the whole stereotyping of men as problematic too. You wouldn’t take the same approach using ethnicity, sexuality or other characteristics, but grouping ‘men’ as a whole as if they’re a homogeneous group that causes difficulties really isn’t acceptable. | |||
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"I think I'd rather meet a man, he could protect me from the bear..." Yeeessss. I'm in your camp | |||
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"What’s with all the women in the woods, jeez, can’t even take a shit in peace. " I'm bringing toilet roll for you to wipe your furry arse | |||
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"I think I'd rather meet a man, he could protect me from the bear..." If he’s called Paddington, Rupert or Pooh, I’m happy to look the hero. Anything else and I’m away on my toes! | |||
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"I think I'd rather meet a man, he could protect me from the bear... Yeeessss. I'm in your camp " And I refuse to believe the " all men are potential r*pists" bollocks | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods" He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! | |||
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"What’s with all the women in the woods, jeez, can’t even take a shit in peace. I'm bringing toilet roll for you to wipe your furry arse " Is it the Star Treck brand, I need something to wipe out the cling ons with all this fur. | |||
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"What’s with all the women in the woods, jeez, can’t even take a shit in peace. I'm bringing toilet roll for you to wipe your furry arse Is it the Star Treck brand, I need something to wipe out the cling ons with all this fur. " I shall make it so.... | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! " ... better not ask me I have 0 sense of direction | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! " We don't use maps we use our manly instincts (cue Tim Allen grunts from home improvements) | |||
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"Black bear, fine. Meet those before. They just run away. Brown not so much. A man, honestly I wouldn't worry either. " So, a colour blind woman is walking through the woods. Would she rather meet a man or a bear. | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! " Just hope and prey she’s holding the map the right way up | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! We don't use maps we use our manly instincts (cue Tim Allen grunts from home improvements)" Women generally have a better innate sense of direction according to some research years ago, but not so good at map reading. | |||
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"I'll take the man. I'm not confident in my ability to survive if the bear is hungry. " Cheese, I am easily placated with cheese, good strong cheddar preferably. | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! We don't use maps we use our manly instincts (cue Tim Allen grunts from home improvements) Women generally have a better innate sense of direction according to some research years ago, but not so good at map reading." Oh bloody hell I must be a man | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! We don't use maps we use our manly instincts (cue Tim Allen grunts from home improvements) Women generally have a better innate sense of direction according to some research years ago, but not so good at map reading." Then how did she get lost in the woods? | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! We don't use maps we use our manly instincts (cue Tim Allen grunts from home improvements) Women generally have a better innate sense of direction according to some research years ago, but not so good at map reading. Oh bloody hell I must be a man " We must have our roles reversed lol | |||
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"I'll take the man. I'm not confident in my ability to survive if the bear is hungry. Cheese, I am easily placated with cheese, good strong cheddar preferably. " Good to know. I'll carry cheese with me whenever I walk in the woods in future. | |||
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"Since we don't have bears it's a bit of a moot point in the UK. Remember that this was a question posed in the USA. They have high gun crime and increasing removal of womens rights, especially in Southern states. In that political climate, the results are maybe more understandable. " Yes this is very relevant! I think the women asked were also younger than me which is why i wondered if it was a generational bias too perhaps | |||
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"If it’s black. Fight back. If it’s brown, lie down. If it’s a man …..?… " Start a thread ..Mr | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! We don't use maps we use our manly instincts (cue Tim Allen grunts from home improvements) Women generally have a better innate sense of direction according to some research years ago, but not so good at map reading. Then how did she get lost in the woods? " Read the original poster. If she was alone in the woods, not lost | |||
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"Since we don't have bears it's a bit of a moot point in the UK. Remember that this was a question posed in the USA. They have high gun crime and increasing removal of womens rights, especially in Southern states. In that political climate, the results are maybe more understandable. Yes this is very relevant! I think the women asked were also younger than me which is why i wondered if it was a generational bias too perhaps " I think the growth of Andrew Tate-alikes might be influencing reactions. Also the way many men believe that because they aren't a threat no other men are and tell women they're wrong to be wary. | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! We don't use maps we use our manly instincts (cue Tim Allen grunts from home improvements) Women generally have a better innate sense of direction according to some research years ago, but not so good at map reading. Then how did she get lost in the woods? Read the original poster. If she was alone in the woods, not lost " Is she traveling with a monkey which wears trainers? | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! We don't use maps we use our manly instincts (cue Tim Allen grunts from home improvements) Women generally have a better innate sense of direction according to some research years ago, but not so good at map reading. Oh bloody hell I must be a man We must have our roles reversed lol " | |||
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"I think the point of it is that a bear is a bear and will act accordingly and won't victim blame and nor will anyone else But a man (not all men to be clear), well we all know how that goes. The whole...not all men thing still stands. We know its not all men. But it is all women" What is all women? | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! We don't use maps we use our manly instincts (cue Tim Allen grunts from home improvements) Women generally have a better innate sense of direction according to some research years ago, but not so good at map reading. Then how did she get lost in the woods? Read the original poster. If she was alone in the woods, not lost Is she traveling with a monkey which wears trainers? " Errrrmmm, not sure what you mean ? | |||
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"I’ve seen it going round & it’s a “Rage Baiting” topic! It’s meant to portray men as dangerous savages women should fear being alone with. But ask yourself how many men do you walk past everyday & what percentage have attacked you . Now how many bears have you walked past? & if you where to meet some bears in a forest what proportion of them do you think would attach you? Haha. It’s meant to trigger gender wars between men & women, yes there are some dangerously men out there for sure . But majority ain’t but let them go cuddle their grizzly & polar bears see how that turns out " Ever since I was a little girl I’ve been told to be cautious of men and being alone with them, why is that? Because the fear is already there and has been for centuries. It’s drilled into us at a young age. Nothing to do with a bear/man in the woods analogy. It will never stop being that way because of those who do present a danger to women. | |||
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"I think the point of it is that a bear is a bear and will act accordingly and won't victim blame and nor will anyone else But a man (not all men to be clear), well we all know how that goes. The whole...not all men thing still stands. We know its not all men. But it is all women What is all women?" All women have felt vulnerable. All women have been groped or had pics sent they don't want. We've all been objectified. We are all taught how to stay safe. We all fear walking alone at night. | |||
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"I have some thoughts on this. Firstly it's a way of dividing people. It is harking back to the "all men are r**ists or potential r**ists" that did the rounds on SM a couple of years ago. I'm not a fan of tarring an entire sector of society with the same shitty brush. All that happens is that men who this doesn't apply to get angry and defensive for being lumped in with the bad ones. Then get told they are part of the problem. There are 2 simultaneous messages being put out. 1. We obviously don't mean all men. 2. It's all men until its no men. So you can see how we can't fucking win. It also creates a problem where the women with strong views on this are effectively negating the views of the men who this doesn't apply to and object to being g labelled as something they are not. It also has the potential to create what is effectively a self creating prophecy inasmuch as, if you tell people they are subhuman (in this case worse than an actual fucking bear trying to eat you) often enough, then they are more likely to either stop interacting with you or treat you negatively, perpetuating the cycle. Good people don't excuse the actions of bad people, but shouldn't be punished for simply having the genetic potential for being a bad person. " Why do you have to win? | |||
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"If it's a polar bear it's probably lost and trying to find someone to ask directions out of the woods He best ask a woman. … don’t approach a man! We don't use maps we use our manly instincts (cue Tim Allen grunts from home improvements) Women generally have a better innate sense of direction according to some research years ago, but not so good at map reading. Then how did she get lost in the woods? Read the original poster. If she was alone in the woods, not lost Is she traveling with a monkey which wears trainers? Errrrmmm, not sure what you mean ?" Dora the explorer & Boots. | |||
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"You know what hypothetical scenario: I'm walking on my own through a forest and I come across a woman alone and scared clearly lost and in need of help. Do I 1: help her do the right thing assisting her get back to safety. 2: run like fuck in the other direction incase she accused me of something inappropriate. 3:go find a bear to pick a fight with. A . Always no 1 . Not all men are rxpists." What if she eas 4. Just in the woods on her own, doing her own thing | |||
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"Is she traveling with a monkey which wears trainers? Errrrmmm, not sure what you mean ?" Dora the explorer & Boots. Ah right, never heard of her " Me neither - its a kids thing maybe? | |||
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"Since we don't have bears it's a bit of a moot point in the UK. Remember that this was a question posed in the USA. They have high gun crime and increasing removal of womens rights, especially in Southern states. In that political climate, the results are maybe more understandable. Yes this is very relevant! I think the women asked were also younger than me which is why i wondered if it was a generational bias too perhaps I think the growth of Andrew Tate-alikes might be influencing reactions. Also the way many men believe that because they aren't a threat no other men are and tell women they're wrong to be wary. " Very true. I think Andrew Tate and his like have helped set back equality and made many women much more wary. I also don't think normal decent men should take offence. Nobody is saying that all men pose a risk to women... however, some men certainly do. And due to the physical imbalance of power women are unlikely to be able to prevent or escape an attack, in the unlikely event one occurs. | |||
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"You know what hypothetical scenario: I'm walking on my own through a forest and I come across a woman alone and scared clearly lost and in need of help. Do I 1: help her do the right thing assisting her get back to safety. 2: run like fuck in the other direction incase she accused me of something inappropriate. 3:go find a bear to pick a fight with. A . Always no 1 . Not all men are rxpists. What if she eas 4. Just in the woods on her own, doing her own thing " If in doubt leave her the fuck alone. If someone needs help they’ll shout | |||
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"You know what hypothetical scenario: I'm walking on my own through a forest and I come across a woman alone and scared clearly lost and in need of help. Do I 1: help her do the right thing assisting her get back to safety. 2: run like fuck in the other direction incase she accused me of something inappropriate. 3:go find a bear to pick a fight with. A . Always no 1 . Not all men are rxpists. What if she eas 4. Just in the woods on her own, doing her own thing " I wonder how many times a woman has been alone, and a guy has seen her and she hasn’t seen him. And nothing has happened apart from they both got to the destination safely. And she would be non-the wiser that guy did not make her feel uncomfortable. This whole idea, and this question is hypothetical. And I shout bullshit. Let’s say you’re alone in the words to the left of you is a bear. And to the right of you is a guy who is also spotted the bear before the woman, because he also knows the biggest danger in the woods right now. You’re telling me you would fancy your chances turning left? Bullshit. | |||
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"Is she traveling with a monkey which wears trainers? Errrrmmm, not sure what you mean ?" Dora the explorer & Boots. Ah right, never heard of her Me neither - its a kids thing maybe? " Yes. Dora the explorer | |||
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"Is she traveling with a monkey which wears trainers? Errrrmmm, not sure what you mean ?" Dora the explorer & Boots. Ah right, never heard of her Me neither - its a kids thing maybe? " Google says it is | |||
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"You know what hypothetical scenario: I'm walking on my own through a forest and I come across a woman alone and scared clearly lost and in need of help. Do I 1: help her do the right thing assisting her get back to safety. 2: run like fuck in the other direction incase she accused me of something inappropriate. 3:go find a bear to pick a fight with. A . Always no 1 . Not all men are rxpists. What if she eas 4. Just in the woods on her own, doing her own thing If in doubt leave her the fuck alone. If someone needs help they’ll shout " | |||
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"Is she traveling with a monkey which wears trainers? Errrrmmm, not sure what you mean ?" Dora the explorer & Boots. Ah right, never heard of her Me neither - its a kids thing maybe? Google says it is " I just got called a kid didn’t I? | |||
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"You know what hypothetical scenario: I'm walking on my own through a forest and I come across a woman alone and scared clearly lost and in need of help. Do I 1: help her do the right thing assisting her get back to safety. 2: run like fuck in the other direction incase she accused me of something inappropriate. 3:go find a bear to pick a fight with. A . Always no 1 . Not all men are rxpists. What if she eas 4. Just in the woods on her own, doing her own thing I wonder how many times a woman has been alone, and a guy has seen her and she hasn’t seen him. And nothing has happened apart from they both got to the destination safely. And she would be non-the wiser that guy did not make her feel uncomfortable. This whole idea, and this question is hypothetical. And I shout bullshit. Let’s say you’re alone in the words to the left of you is a bear. And to the right of you is a guy who is also spotted the bear before the woman, because he also knows the biggest danger in the woods right now. You’re telling me you would fancy your chances turning left? Bullshit. " Woody it was just a quick fire choice - man or bear! I think it went viral because so many said bear instead of man | |||
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"Is she traveling with a monkey which wears trainers? Errrrmmm, not sure what you mean ?" Dora the explorer & Boots. Ah right, never heard of her Me neither - its a kids thing maybe? Google says it is " I don’t recommend watching out of curiosity. It’s addictive shit. | |||
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"Is she traveling with a monkey which wears trainers? Errrrmmm, not sure what you mean ?" Dora the explorer & Boots. Ah right, never heard of her Me neither - its a kids thing maybe? Google says it is I just got called a kid didn’t I? " I wondered if it was a new tactic - throw the kid at the bear, then run? | |||
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"Walk with dog at country park a fair bit. It’s taking a wide berth in paths, a lot of time with women on their own. I’ll say morning or hi though. Some have pod/headphones in, so I don’t mind if no answer. Women walking their dogs there can be some doggo chat, but again, try to give room/go wide. I can’t say I’d blame women for preferring a bear. " I've noticed it loads of times walking on the hills, couples and single males will stop and blether but females take a detour to avoid me. I don't take it personally, I've usually got pods in and prefer the solitude | |||
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"You know what hypothetical scenario: I'm walking on my own through a forest and I come across a woman alone and scared clearly lost and in need of help. Do I 1: help her do the right thing assisting her get back to safety. 2: run like fuck in the other direction incase she accused me of something inappropriate. 3:go find a bear to pick a fight with. A . Always no 1 . Not all men are rxpists. What if she eas 4. Just in the woods on her own, doing her own thing I wonder how many times a woman has been alone, and a guy has seen her and she hasn’t seen him. And nothing has happened apart from they both got to the destination safely. And she would be non-the wiser that guy did not make her feel uncomfortable. This whole idea, and this question is hypothetical. And I shout bullshit. Let’s say you’re alone in the words to the left of you is a bear. And to the right of you is a guy who is also spotted the bear before the woman, because he also knows the biggest danger in the woods right now. You’re telling me you would fancy your chances turning left? Bullshit. Woody it was just a quick fire choice - man or bear! I think it went viral because so many said bear instead of man" Maybe they got shown a picture of the bear, and it was Paddington and the guys picture was of Boris Johnson | |||
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"Is she traveling with a monkey which wears trainers? Errrrmmm, not sure what you mean ?" Dora the explorer & Boots. Ah right, never heard of her Me neither - its a kids thing maybe? Yes. Dora the explorer " She'd have something in her backpack, if swiper hasn't swiped it! | |||
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"Since we don't have bears it's a bit of a moot point in the UK. Remember that this was a question posed in the USA. They have high gun crime and increasing removal of womens rights, especially in Southern states. In that political climate, the results are maybe more understandable. Yes this is very relevant! I think the women asked were also younger than me which is why i wondered if it was a generational bias too perhaps I think the growth of Andrew Tate-alikes might be influencing reactions. Also the way many men believe that because they aren't a threat no other men are and tell women they're wrong to be wary. Very true. I think Andrew Tate and his like have helped set back equality and made many women much more wary. I also don't think normal decent men should take offence. Nobody is saying that all men pose a risk to women... however, some men certainly do. And due to the physical imbalance of power women are unlikely to be able to prevent or escape an attack, in the unlikely event one occurs. " I understand your point. But you use the phrase that normal decent men shouldn’t take offence. It’s hard not to though. You wouldn’t say Muslims shouldn’t take offence if, as a group, they’re labelled on the actions of a few. Similarly with say Jews or immigrants or any other group. That just wouldn’t be acceptable and rightly so. It’s not acceptable to label any group on the actions of a few. | |||
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"Walk with dog at country park a fair bit. It’s taking a wide berth in paths, a lot of time with women on their own. I’ll say morning or hi though. Some have pod/headphones in, so I don’t mind if no answer. Women walking their dogs there can be some doggo chat, but again, try to give room/go wide. I can’t say I’d blame women for preferring a bear. I've noticed it loads of times walking on the hills, couples and single males will stop and blether but females take a detour to avoid me. I don't take it personally, I've usually got pods in and prefer the solitude " I don’t mind, I’d do same in their place. | |||
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"You know what hypothetical scenario: I'm walking on my own through a forest and I come across a woman alone and scared clearly lost and in need of help. Do I 1: help her do the right thing assisting her get back to safety. 2: run like fuck in the other direction incase she accused me of something inappropriate. 3:go find a bear to pick a fight with. A . Always no 1 . Not all men are rxpists. What if she eas 4. Just in the woods on her own, doing her own thing " Well a quick conversation would clear up any confusion and we can go about our lives. Besides if it was obvious that she was ok in the first place I'd probably have just said good morning or afternoon and gone about my merry way. Just for the sake of equality I would do the same for anyone who I came across alone and in the woods in need of help regardless of gender or age. | |||
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"Well statistically if you go by the number of women killed or attacked in the woods by bears against those killed or attacked by men...then it's much safer to opt for the bear... And even if you extrapolate the "impossible" because the population size between men and bears isn't the same...then they'd still be statistically safer with bears... So yeah...opting for the bear is the rational thing to do..." But it's not to do with the chance of meeting one. It's pick one or the other. | |||
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"I have some thoughts on this. Firstly it's a way of dividing people. It is harking back to the "all men are r**ists or potential r**ists" that did the rounds on SM a couple of years ago. I'm not a fan of tarring an entire sector of society with the same shitty brush. All that happens is that men who this doesn't apply to get angry and defensive for being lumped in with the bad ones. Then get told they are part of the problem. There are 2 simultaneous messages being put out. 1. We obviously don't mean all men. 2. It's all men until its no men. So you can see how we can't fucking win. It also creates a problem where the women with strong views on this are effectively negating the views of the men who this doesn't apply to and object to being g labelled as something they are not. It also has the potential to create what is effectively a self creating prophecy inasmuch as, if you tell people they are subhuman (in this case worse than an actual fucking bear trying to eat you) often enough, then they are more likely to either stop interacting with you or treat you negatively, perpetuating the cycle. Good people don't excuse the actions of bad people, but shouldn't be punished for simply having the genetic potential for being a bad person. Why do you have to win? " It's not so much winning, but an option where we don't come out as being labelled a piece of shit would suffice. | |||
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"You know what hypothetical scenario: I'm walking on my own through a forest and I come across a woman alone and scared clearly lost and in need of help. Do I 1: help her do the right thing assisting her get back to safety. 2: run like fuck in the other direction incase she accused me of something inappropriate. 3:go find a bear to pick a fight with. A . Always no 1 . Not all men are rxpists. What if she eas 4. Just in the woods on her own, doing her own thing Well a quick conversation would clear up any confusion and we can go about our lives. Besides if it was obvious that she was ok in the first place I'd probably have just said good morning or afternoon and gone about my merry way. Just for the sake of equality I would do the same for anyone who I came across alone and in the woods in need of help regardless of gender or age. " No. A woman is completely within her rights NOT to have a conversation with any man. ‘A quick conversation’ is exactly what they fear. | |||
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"I think the most telling thing I saw, was where a man had shared a meme of the bear attacking the woman after she'd chosen it and he was laughing. We know not all men are the same, unfortunately you can't always initally tell who the good ones are. " I have an ex who ass**lted my daughter then threatened to self delete when i broke up with her. So can I assume, or publicly proclaim on public platforms that all women are potential psycho child ab**ers, simply because I can't initially tell? Even though I know it's "not all women" | |||
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"Well statistically if you go by the number of women killed or attacked in the woods by bears against those killed or attacked by men...then it's much safer to opt for the bear... And even if you extrapolate the "impossible" because the population size between men and bears isn't the same...then they'd still be statistically safer with bears... So yeah...opting for the bear is the rational thing to do..." Your talents are clearly wasted, you should work in the PR department of the Conservative party. | |||
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"I have some thoughts on this. Firstly it's a way of dividing people. It is harking back to the "all men are r**ists or potential r**ists" that did the rounds on SM a couple of years ago. I'm not a fan of tarring an entire sector of society with the same shitty brush. All that happens is that men who this doesn't apply to get angry and defensive for being lumped in with the bad ones. Then get told they are part of the problem. There are 2 simultaneous messages being put out. 1. We obviously don't mean all men. 2. It's all men until its no men. So you can see how we can't fucking win. It also creates a problem where the women with strong views on this are effectively negating the views of the men who this doesn't apply to and object to being g labelled as something they are not. It also has the potential to create what is effectively a self creating prophecy inasmuch as, if you tell people they are subhuman (in this case worse than an actual fucking bear trying to eat you) often enough, then they are more likely to either stop interacting with you or treat you negatively, perpetuating the cycle. Good people don't excuse the actions of bad people, but shouldn't be punished for simply having the genetic potential for being a bad person. Why do you have to win? It's not so much winning, but an option where we don't come out as being labelled a piece of shit would suffice." Some people are always going to think of men as a piece of shit. There’s plenty of other things on social media that make out women to be the piece of shit. It’s just opinions. Everyone has one. And if you feel personally attacked by scenarios like this, maybe there’s something in you that needs some deeper thought and healing? | |||
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"Well statistically if you go by the number of women killed or attacked in the woods by bears against those killed or attacked by men...then it's much safer to opt for the bear... And even if you extrapolate the "impossible" because the population size between men and bears isn't the same...then they'd still be statistically safer with bears... So yeah...opting for the bear is the rational thing to do..." That isn't a good statistic to measure by. To accurately model this you'd have to consider the number of interactions between bears and humans and scale that appropriately. Humans get attacked by animals either as prey or a self-defence mechanism. Humans rarely encounter bears, as bears are seldom found in towns and cities. I haven't got the stats but I imagine that when a bear does encounter a human, and the bear chooses to attack, it doesn't end well for the human unless they are armed. Let's say that that figure is 10%. A random woman living in a city will encounter many many thousands of random men over the course of a week, and will come to no harm. So statistically the bear is thousands of times more dangerous. But this is a nonsense point to start with, because this whole rage-baiting point misses the fact that virtually all violence perpetrated on women is by men they know and in many case trusted - partners, former partners, and family members. Totally random crimes are a tiny fraction of the cases, but get the headlines and instill the fear. | |||
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"I think the most telling thing I saw, was where a man had shared a meme of the bear attacking the woman after she'd chosen it and he was laughing. We know not all men are the same, unfortunately you can't always initally tell who the good ones are. I have an ex who ass**lted my daughter then threatened to self delete when i broke up with her. So can I assume, or publicly proclaim on public platforms that all women are potential psycho child ab**ers, simply because I can't initially tell? Even though I know it's "not all women"" I'm really sorry that happened to your daughter - unfortunately, as you are all too aware, any gender can be the perpetrator - there are certainly a few female serial killers - Myra, Rosemary... And many more instances of DA against men that either hasn't been reported, or taken seriously x | |||
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"You know what hypothetical scenario: I'm walking on my own through a forest and I come across a woman alone and scared clearly lost and in need of help. Do I 1: help her do the right thing assisting her get back to safety. 2: run like fuck in the other direction incase she accused me of something inappropriate. 3:go find a bear to pick a fight with. A . Always no 1 . Not all men are rxpists. What if she eas 4. Just in the woods on her own, doing her own thing Well a quick conversation would clear up any confusion and we can go about our lives. Besides if it was obvious that she was ok in the first place I'd probably have just said good morning or afternoon and gone about my merry way. Just for the sake of equality I would do the same for anyone who I came across alone and in the woods in need of help regardless of gender or age. No. A woman is completely within her rights NOT to have a conversation with any man. ‘A quick conversation’ is exactly what they fear." And as a woman you know this do you? This is just as patronising as anything I have said! So what you are saying is. In a remote forest two humans find themselves on the same path at the same time What's worse them just ignoring each other or a polite hello? This is all hypothetical and complete nonsense. Your missing my entire point. The fact that assuming every woman alone is a helpless female and every man is a murdering rxpists is just nonsense. | |||
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"I have some thoughts on this. Firstly it's a way of dividing people. It is harking back to the "all men are r**ists or potential r**ists" that did the rounds on SM a couple of years ago. I'm not a fan of tarring an entire sector of society with the same shitty brush. All that happens is that men who this doesn't apply to get angry and defensive for being lumped in with the bad ones. Then get told they are part of the problem. There are 2 simultaneous messages being put out. 1. We obviously don't mean all men. 2. It's all men until its no men. So you can see how we can't fucking win. It also creates a problem where the women with strong views on this are effectively negating the views of the men who this doesn't apply to and object to being g labelled as something they are not. It also has the potential to create what is effectively a self creating prophecy inasmuch as, if you tell people they are subhuman (in this case worse than an actual fucking bear trying to eat you) often enough, then they are more likely to either stop interacting with you or treat you negatively, perpetuating the cycle. Good people don't excuse the actions of bad people, but shouldn't be punished for simply having the genetic potential for being a bad person. Why do you have to win? It's not so much winning, but an option where we don't come out as being labelled a piece of shit would suffice. Some people are always going to think of men as a piece of shit. There’s plenty of other things on social media that make out women to be the piece of shit. It’s just opinions. Everyone has one. And if you feel personally attacked by scenarios like this, maybe there’s something in you that needs some deeper thought and healing? " I'm not personally offended. Just saddened at the level of hysteria, anger and division this topic had brought up. I think the difference is, if you switched the "target" of the argument to: All women are... All black people are.. All gay people are.. Then the instigator would be (rightfully) jumped on (metaphorically). However, in this instance *any* defence of oneself has people labeled as "part of the problem" Having had the Geneva Convention drilled into me over years, personal responsibility vs collective punishment is a part of how I think. | |||
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"You know what hypothetical scenario: I'm walking on my own through a forest and I come across a woman alone and scared clearly lost and in need of help. Do I 1: help her do the right thing assisting her get back to safety. 2: run like fuck in the other direction incase she accused me of something inappropriate. 3:go find a bear to pick a fight with. A . Always no 1 . Not all men are rxpists. What if she eas 4. Just in the woods on her own, doing her own thing Well a quick conversation would clear up any confusion and we can go about our lives. Besides if it was obvious that she was ok in the first place I'd probably have just said good morning or afternoon and gone about my merry way. Just for the sake of equality I would do the same for anyone who I came across alone and in the woods in need of help regardless of gender or age. No. A woman is completely within her rights NOT to have a conversation with any man. ‘A quick conversation’ is exactly what they fear. And as a woman you know this do you? This is just as patronising as anything I have said! So what you are saying is. In a remote forest two humans find themselves on the same path at the same time What's worse them just ignoring each other or a polite hello? This is all hypothetical and complete nonsense. Your missing my entire point. The fact that assuming every woman alone is a helpless female and every man is a murdering rxpists is just nonsense." Your opinion is as valid as mine. If in doubt, leave alone. | |||
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"I think the most telling thing I saw, was where a man had shared a meme of the bear attacking the woman after she'd chosen it and he was laughing. We know not all men are the same, unfortunately you can't always initally tell who the good ones are. I have an ex who ass**lted my daughter then threatened to self delete when i broke up with her. So can I assume, or publicly proclaim on public platforms that all women are potential psycho child ab**ers, simply because I can't initially tell? Even though I know it's "not all women" I'm really sorry that happened to your daughter - unfortunately, as you are all too aware, any gender can be the perpetrator - there are certainly a few female serial killers - Myra, Rosemary... And many more instances of DA against men that either hasn't been reported, or taken seriously x" Thank you. It took some work and counselling, but I'm in a good place. As is my daughter. I managed to grow from it and learn. I pay more attention and am more willing to walk away if I see red flags, but I still managed to treat partners as individuals and not punish then for the behaviour of that one person. | |||
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"I haven’t actually seen the film but doesn’t the bear bum him in The Revenant? Dunno about bumming him but he does get “propa fucked” by it. " I’m guessing the bear was over 25 because Leo didn’t go back for seconds | |||
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"I haven’t actually seen the film but doesn’t the bear bum him in The Revenant? Dunno about bumming him but he does get “propa fucked” by it. " I think the bear was female. I've heard they Love honey but I'm not sure they deliver to the woods. | |||
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"This whole bear/man thing has a very simple point: It demonstrates that many women are afraid of men, at some level. That’s it. That’s what it set out to show. In an attention-grabbing, eye-catching way. Turning it into anything else is kinda missing the point really. And that’s how you end up getting labelled as part of the problem. By arguing the semantics or realism or unfairness or whatever, you come across as denying or ignoring the one simple fact: Most women are scared of men. " Exactly and men have to accept that. A little conversation isn’t what they’re looking for, they want left alone. | |||
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"I've seen it doing the rounds and my initial reaction was how sad that women genuinely felt that way. Of course a bear is a bear and we have the whole #NotAllMen thing but that fact that enough men make them feel that way is pretty damning and probably shows how divded both sexes are at the minute in society." Joe, this echoes my sentiments too | |||
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" I also don't think normal decent men should take offence. Nobody is saying that all men pose a risk to women... however, some men certainly do. And due to the physical imbalance of power women are unlikely to be able to prevent or escape an attack, in the unlikely event one occurs. " Some people very much are and do say that all men pose a risk to women. And on the physical imbalance... the imbalance between a woman and a bear is far greater than a woman and a bear, or a man to a bear for that matter. I was told just yesterday that my belief that I'm less dangerous than a bear is exactly what makes me so dangerous and that I'm "clearly a threat to women". I'm a pacifist! I don't even like cobat sports! | |||
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"This conversation is about privilege, and not recognising it. Many men are able to move through their daily lives not being worried that they are going to be attacked or r%ped, can walk alone late at night without taking any safety precautions or even not having such thoughts cross their minds, and do not feel their hearts beat faster if they hear footsteps behind them. It may not be all men, but it is all women, who live smaller lives because of the threat of some men’s violence. Facts Mr " I'd disagree. And I am a woman, I've repeatedly checked. I can honestly say I don't feel a fear of men in general, if I'm walking alone somewhere at night any fear I have isn't because I'm female, it's because I'm alone. What could happen to me could happen to a guy alone. If that's makes any sense. I'm not stupid, there's things I wouldn't do but it doesn't go through my mind oh I shouldn't do that because I'm female. For example, I once met a guy and I was leaving afterwards which meant a walk through a city to my car late at night. He wouldn't let me walk alone and I was so put out by the fact he wouldn't let me as I'm stubborn and can do what I want we fell out, but what bothered me more was I was more worried about anything happening to him when he was alone walking back. People can be dickhead and some don't care if you're male or female. | |||
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"It's a sorry state when women will choose a natural predator who is likely to kill them over someone of the opposite sex. It really is, I still take my chances with a bear. Mrs " I'd go guy. An unarmed guy you don't know. Even if the guy is a serial killer /r*pist I'd still come off better than I would against a bear. Plus bears are cute, I couldn't harm a bear. | |||
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"It's a sorry state when women will choose a natural predator who is likely to kill them over someone of the opposite sex. It really is, I still take my chances with a bear. Mrs I'd go guy. An unarmed guy you don't know. Even if the guy is a serial killer /r*pist I'd still come off better than I would against a bear. Plus bears are cute, I couldn't harm a bear. " The bear rejected you, didn’t he? | |||
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"It's a sorry state when women will choose a natural predator who is likely to kill them over someone of the opposite sex. It really is, I still take my chances with a bear. Mrs I'd go guy. An unarmed guy you don't know. Even if the guy is a serial killer /r*pist I'd still come off better than I would against a bear. Plus bears are cute, I couldn't harm a bear. The bear rejected you, didn’t he? " I don't want to talk about it | |||
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"Ah, yes. I've fallen for this ploy before. If you disagree you're part of the problem and most likely a r*pist. If you voice any other opinion then you're mansplaining about a topic you know nothing of. It's best just to ignore it. Kind of like that film Wargames; the only way to win is not to play. " It’s not a psychological trap to say you’d leave a lone woman be unless she specifically asked for your help. | |||
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"This conversation is about privilege, and not recognising it. Many men are able to move through their daily lives not being worried that they are going to be attacked or r%ped, can walk alone late at night without taking any safety precautions or even not having such thoughts cross their minds, and do not feel their hearts beat faster if they hear footsteps behind them. It may not be all men, but it is all women, who live smaller lives because of the threat of some men’s violence. Facts Mr I'd disagree. And I am a woman, I've repeatedly checked. I can honestly say I don't feel a fear of men in general, if I'm walking alone somewhere at night any fear I have isn't because I'm female, it's because I'm alone. What could happen to me could happen to a guy alone. If that's makes any sense. I'm not stupid, there's things I wouldn't do but it doesn't go through my mind oh I shouldn't do that because I'm female. For example, I once met a guy and I was leaving afterwards which meant a walk through a city to my car late at night. He wouldn't let me walk alone and I was so put out by the fact he wouldn't let me as I'm stubborn and can do what I want we fell out, but what bothered me more was I was more worried about anything happening to him when he was alone walking back. People can be dickhead and some don't care if you're male or female. " This, I've honestly never felt any kind of fear. I'm also someone who has been attacked by a stranger (in daylight), involving being flown off the island I was living on for treatment and resulted in a prison sentence for him. I still wouldn't give a second thought about going out bc I appreciate that and similar are very very unusual and I wouldn't let that dictate how I go about the rest of my life. | |||
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"I find it very sad and blame the media. Statistics on crime make men more likely to be the victims of crime, yet it's women who are taught to be scared. This does a disservice to both men and women. I have no idea what the solution is though. " To be fair- it’s because men are the perpetrators. Like I’m more likely to be a victim of violent crime but at the hands of other men. And gender violence feels like it’s a genuine thing to be aware of in this world. | |||
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"It's a sorry state when women will choose a natural predator who is likely to kill them over someone of the opposite sex. It really is, I still take my chances with a bear. Mrs I'd go guy. An unarmed guy you don't know. Even if the guy is a serial killer /r*pist I'd still come off better than I would against a bear. Plus bears are cute, I couldn't harm a bear. " My life experience's teach me differently. Mrs | |||
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"I find it very sad and blame the media. Statistics on crime make men more likely to be the victims of crime, yet it's women who are taught to be scared. This does a disservice to both men and women. I have no idea what the solution is though. " This is how I feel about the situation, almost word for word. Althought the narrative is that "men are evil" I worry so much for the men and boys in my family because of it - it's almost flipped the script in that it feels unsafe for men and boys to be unaccompanied. P | |||
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"I find it very sad and blame the media. Statistics on crime make men more likely to be the victims of crime, yet it's women who are taught to be scared. This does a disservice to both men and women. I have no idea what the solution is though. This is how I feel about the situation, almost word for word. Althought the narrative is that "men are evil" I worry so much for the men and boys in my family because of it - it's almost flipped the script in that it feels unsafe for men and boys to be unaccompanied. P" Because they will be attacked by women? | |||
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" I also don't think normal decent men should take offence. Nobody is saying that all men pose a risk to women... however, some men certainly do. And due to the physical imbalance of power women are unlikely to be able to prevent or escape an attack, in the unlikely event one occurs. Some people very much are and do say that all men pose a risk to women. And on the physical imbalance... the imbalance between a woman and a bear is far greater than a woman and a bear, or a man to a bear for that matter. I was told just yesterday that my belief that I'm less dangerous than a bear is exactly what makes me so dangerous and that I'm "clearly a threat to women". I'm a pacifist! I don't even like cobat sports! " I really don’t think anyone is saying all men are the problem, I think they’re saying all men could be the problem, there’s a difference. You may well be a pacifist who wouldn’t harm a fly but to a lone woman that doesn’t really matter, she doesn’t know you. You could just as easily be a r*pist. It’s not personal, it’s not about you. I’m not sure if men really don’t get it or they just demand that women listen to and agree with them because they know best. But when a woman tells you that she is scared of what a man could do to her then believe her, or you really are part of the problem. | |||
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"It's a sorry state when women will choose a natural predator who is likely to kill them over someone of the opposite sex. It really is, I still take my chances with a bear. Mrs I'd go guy. An unarmed guy you don't know. Even if the guy is a serial killer /r*pist I'd still come off better than I would against a bear. Plus bears are cute, I couldn't harm a bear. My life experience's teach me differently. Mrs " Everyone does what they need to do. I don't think there's a right or wrong. | |||
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"I'm not stupid, there's things I wouldn't do but it doesn't go through my mind oh I shouldn't do that because I'm female. But you still have to amend your behaviour!. Even if it doesn't go through your head it's because I'm female, let's have it right, thr truth is it is though... And my bad I generalised it to all women, when I should have said a lot of women do!!!.... Mr " But the question is based on men been the fear, they aren't. Not to me. It's people in general that are. I don't not walk alone through a dark alley for fear I'll be r*ped, it's more the fear of the creepy arse monster that lives down there. Anyone one walking alone at night and hears footsteps quickening behind them is gonna be a little on edge. Male or female. | |||
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"Men is the answer because it's edgy. Women trying to be clever and one up, plus ignorance of what a bear can and will actually do. It's not fear of men being the answer for them, it's lack of knowledge and the safety of a what if scenario. There is no danger, so the "dangerous" answer gets the vote. Given the actual choice of being in that situation (gun to the head scenario) of man or bear all woman (and men) would always pick man. I hate this fucking place. " Kai!!!!!! | |||
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"Men is the answer because it's edgy. Women trying to be clever and one up, plus ignorance of what a bear can and will actually do. It's not fear of men being the answer for them, it's lack of knowledge and the safety of a what if scenario. There is no danger, so the "dangerous" answer gets the vote. Given the actual choice of being in that situation (gun to the head scenario) of man or bear all woman (and men) would always pick man. I hate this fucking place. " I shouted bullshit above. | |||
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"Men is the answer because it's edgy. Women trying to be clever and one up, plus ignorance of what a bear can and will actually do. It's not fear of men being the answer for them, it's lack of knowledge and the safety of a what if scenario. There is no danger, so the "dangerous" answer gets the vote. Given the actual choice of being in that situation (gun to the head scenario) of man or bear all woman (and men) would always pick man. I hate this fucking place. I shouted bullshit above. " I saw. I approved. | |||
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"Men is the answer because it's edgy. Women trying to be clever and one up, plus ignorance of what a bear can and will actually do. It's not fear of men being the answer for them, it's lack of knowledge and the safety of a what if scenario. There is no danger, so the "dangerous" answer gets the vote. Given the actual choice of being in that situation (gun to the head scenario) of man or bear all woman (and men) would always pick man. I hate this fucking place. " Do you think your answer makes things any better? From the way I read your response you have entirely missed the point of the question, and dismissed why women may have answered the way they did. The question has fuck all to do with bears, it’s about the unpredictability of men, and the reasons that women are afraid of them. Telling women they are illogical, trying to be edgy, get one up on men, and be clever, is exactly the reason why some women do get frightened. Your answer makes it seem like you are personally affronted by the suggestion that some women are scared of men. | |||
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"Men is the answer because it's edgy. Women trying to be clever and one up, plus ignorance of what a bear can and will actually do. It's not fear of men being the answer for them, it's lack of knowledge and the safety of a what if scenario. There is no danger, so the "dangerous" answer gets the vote. Given the actual choice of being in that situation (gun to the head scenario) of man or bear all woman (and men) would always pick man. I hate this fucking place. Do you think your answer makes things any better? From the way I read your response you have entirely missed the point of the question, and dismissed why women may have answered the way they did. The question has fuck all to do with bears, it’s about the unpredictability of men, and the reasons that women are afraid of them. Telling women they are illogical, trying to be edgy, get one up on men, and be clever, is exactly the reason why some women do get frightened. Your answer makes it seem like you are personally affronted by the suggestion that some women are scared of men." Then why was the question asked about a bear if it’s got fuck all to do with bears?? Why is the title of this thread about a bear if it’s got fuck all to do about a bear? Cmon! | |||
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"Men is the answer because it's edgy. Women trying to be clever and one up, plus ignorance of what a bear can and will actually do. It's not fear of men being the answer for them, it's lack of knowledge and the safety of a what if scenario. There is no danger, so the "dangerous" answer gets the vote. Given the actual choice of being in that situation (gun to the head scenario) of man or bear all woman (and men) would always pick man. I hate this fucking place. Do you think your answer makes things any better? From the way I read your response you have entirely missed the point of the question, and dismissed why women may have answered the way they did. The question has fuck all to do with bears, it’s about the unpredictability of men, and the reasons that women are afraid of them. Telling women they are illogical, trying to be edgy, get one up on men, and be clever, is exactly the reason why some women do get frightened. Your answer makes it seem like you are personally affronted by the suggestion that some women are scared of men." No just the stupidity of it. It has everything to do with bears. It's pitting one "danger" against another in a choice. Hence the what if scenario, except there is zero danger making the logically more dangerous answer the less dangerous. It's an easy answer because there is no actual danger. There is no consequemce behind the choice of answer that it holds no weight in an actual debate. Hence the answers are manipulated by this more than an actual fear women have of men. It is a flawed question. I've been mugged more than a few times through my life, by men, women, and groups. Been beat up by people. I know what fear of people actually is (people, not just me) and I'd still rather meet a person than any wild animal or other dangerous scenario because the chances of that person being an actual danger to me than almost anything else is so low. Facts don't care about feelings. Logic directs my mind and actions, not fear of what ifs and maybes of such low statistics. I know if I run in to a person the chances of me being harmed at the very least are so low that I wouldn't even flinch at the thought. But the chances of me being harmed if I ran in to an apex predator... I walked past maybe hundreds of people today, I was not harmed. If I had bumped in to an apex predator, I know for fact I'd have likely been mauled. 90% chance at least. | |||
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"To answer the OP I don’t think it’s a generational thing although I don’t think it’s an “every” woman thing either. I certainly don’t feel that way but have friends that do. Would I rather be alone in the woods with a bear or a man… the answer would always be neither. I’ve gone their to take a shit…" | |||
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"To answer the OP I don’t think it’s a generational thing although I don’t think it’s an “every” woman thing either. I certainly don’t feel that way but have friends that do. Would I rather be alone in the woods with a bear or a man… the answer would always be neither. I’ve gone their to take a shit…" *there | |||
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"I reckon I could fight a bear. Or outrun it. It would depend what mood I’m in that would decide on my choice. " Bet you couldn’t beat some of the giant hamsters I tend to fight in my best dreams | |||
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"I reckon I could fight a bear. Or outrun it. It would depend what mood I’m in that would decide on my choice. " A grizzly bear can run at 40 mph. You can’t outrun one. | |||
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"Men is the answer because it's edgy. Women trying to be clever and one up, plus ignorance of what a bear can and will actually do. It's not fear of men being the answer for them, it's lack of knowledge and the safety of a what if scenario. There is no danger, so the "dangerous" answer gets the vote. Given the actual choice of being in that situation (gun to the head scenario) of man or bear all woman (and men) would always pick man. I hate this fucking place. Do you think your answer makes things any better? From the way I read your response you have entirely missed the point of the question, and dismissed why women may have answered the way they did. The question has fuck all to do with bears, it’s about the unpredictability of men, and the reasons that women are afraid of them. Telling women they are illogical, trying to be edgy, get one up on men, and be clever, is exactly the reason why some women do get frightened. Your answer makes it seem like you are personally affronted by the suggestion that some women are scared of men. No just the stupidity of it. It has everything to do with bears. It's pitting one "danger" against another in a choice. Hence the what if scenario, except there is zero danger making the logically more dangerous answer the less dangerous. It's an easy answer because there is no actual danger. There is no consequemce behind the choice of answer that it holds no weight in an actual debate. Hence the answers are manipulated by this more than an actual fear women have of men. It is a flawed question. I've been mugged more than a few times through my life, by men, women, and groups. Been beat up by people. I know what fear of people actually is (people, not just me) and I'd still rather meet a person than any wild animal or other dangerous scenario because the chances of that person being an actual danger to me than almost anything else is so low. Facts don't care about feelings. Logic directs my mind and actions, not fear of what ifs and maybes of such low statistics. I know if I run in to a person the chances of me being harmed at the very least are so low that I wouldn't even flinch at the thought. But the chances of me being harmed if I ran in to an apex predator... I walked past maybe hundreds of people today, I was not harmed. If I had bumped in to an apex predator, I know for fact I'd have likely been mauled. 90% chance at least. " The bear is not a bear though, that’s the point. It’s merely a symbol of how scared some women are of men. Now you can decide that women are illogical because they chose a bear over a man but it just makes you look like you don’t understand what the question was about in the first place. | |||
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"I reckon I could fight a bear. Or outrun it. It would depend what mood I’m in that would decide on my choice. A grizzly bear can run at 40 mph. You can’t outrun one. " To be fair they never said what kind of bear. Could be a koala bear. | |||
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"I reckon I could fight a bear. Or outrun it. It would depend what mood I’m in that would decide on my choice. A grizzly bear can run at 40 mph. You can’t outrun one. To be fair they never said what kind of bear. Could be a koala bear. " Can you be my lawyer? | |||
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"I reckon I could fight a bear. Or outrun it. It would depend what mood I’m in that would decide on my choice. A grizzly bear can run at 40 mph. You can’t outrun one. To be fair they never said what kind of bear. Could be a koala bear. Can you be my lawyer? " Can you afford me? | |||
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"What if they met Bungle (from kids tv show Rainbow). He was a man that dressed as a bear. #confused" I suspect the unassuming man in the woods has more to fear from Bungle than anyone else... | |||
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"I reckon I could fight a bear. Or outrun it. It would depend what mood I’m in that would decide on my choice. A grizzly bear can run at 40 mph. You can’t outrun one. " So it’s a fight then! … I’ll at least run as far as I can to make it out of breath 1st. Nothing a kick to the balls wouldn’t solve. | |||
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"I reckon I could fight a bear. Or outrun it. It would depend what mood I’m in that would decide on my choice. A grizzly bear can run at 40 mph. You can’t outrun one. To be fair they never said what kind of bear. Could be a koala bear. " They also never said who the man was!!! | |||
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"I reckon I could fight a bear. Or outrun it. It would depend what mood I’m in that would decide on my choice. A grizzly bear can run at 40 mph. You can’t outrun one. To be fair they never said what kind of bear. Could be a koala bear. They also never said who the man was!!! " Woody could you be my lawyer (assuming your rates are lower than Coyote’s)? | |||
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"Depends on the colour of the bear. If its brown lay down If its black fight back If its white goodnight" Just read the thread properly should have done so before commenting lol | |||
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