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"Afternoon everyone "Hey Busman. I'll start the ball rolling with J K Rowling  | |||
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"Pete Townshend " Hmmm, I understand the reasons he did it. But did he really NOT deserve the backlash for that particular crime? | |||
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"Pete Townshend Hmmm, I understand the reasons he did it. But did he really NOT deserve the backlash for that particular crime? "No he definitely didn't deserve the backlash at all. | |||
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"Meghan Markle " 100% agree | |||
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"Katie Price the grief she gets with her oldest son there’s no place in this world for bully’s! "
Harry & Meghan, Katie Price. Dianne Abbot & JK Rowling what they said about racism and periods was technically correct but politically unpopular for sheep too scared of a debate. | |||
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"Neville Chamberlain" In the last couple of years I've come to agree with you. Yes he could have done more with re-armament but the poor fucker was dying and at least got the ball rolling. 6 months after being replaced he was dead.  | |||
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"Katie Price the grief she gets with her oldest son there’s no place in this world for bully’s! " But her driving offences are her own fault. | |||
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"Jesus" What do you mean ? He died in exactly the way his actions at the time would predict and he himself & many others predicted; Roman torture, crucifixion and humiliation. | |||
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"Katie Price the grief she gets with her oldest son there’s no place in this world for bully’s!
Harry & Meghan, Katie Price. Dianne Abbot & JK Rowling what they said about racism and periods was technically correct but politically unpopular for sheep too scared of a debate."I’m not sure that labelling contrary views as ‘sheep’ is a good stance to begin a debate on but that’s your hill… | |||
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"Katie Price the grief she gets with her oldest son there’s no place in this world for bully’s!
Harry & Meghan, Katie Price. Dianne Abbot & JK Rowling what they said about racism and periods was technically correct but politically unpopular for sheep too scared of a debate.
I’m not sure that labelling contrary views as ‘sheep’ is a good stance to begin a debate on but that’s your hill… "They don't want to debate the words they actually said , I just want to label them Or repeat the label somebody else gave them. So they are sheep | |||
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"Alan Turing" Amen | |||
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"Boris Johnson, oh wait, yes he deserves everything thrown at him - and more!!" Have long have you got !! Yes - everything inc the kitchen sink - and more !!! | |||
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"Caroline Flack "100% and Alan Turing | |||
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"Liz truss Brilliant world leader. (Another joke.) "  | |||
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"Alan Turing" This...changed the outcome of the war. The film is decent. | |||
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"Darth Vader "He’s the daddy | |||
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"David Beckham " 100% this! | |||
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"Nigel Farage." Single handedly ruined life for millions | |||
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"Guru Tegh Bahadur." Who dat? | |||
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"Galileo " Not sure he ever got the heretic tag removed? Inquisition was brutal | |||
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"Ann Boleyn. That poor woman " On this theme, Katherine aHoward. Just 17 when married to an old Henry then vilified (then executed) for having an affair. | |||
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"Anyone gunna say Philip Scofield?
Mrs "Totally agree | |||
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"Richard III" He did it! | |||
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"Liz truss Brilliant world leader. (Another joke.) " | |||
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"Galileo Not sure he ever got the heretic tag removed? Inquisition was brutal " Galileo galileo did he do the fandango | |||
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"Dr John marks Not particularly famous, but he should be. Gave controlled drugs to people with addictions so they wouldn't die overdosing, oversaw it in a safe environment. Crime went down rapidly and police were really happy. His practice was shut down by the thatcher government after protests from the Reagan administration overseas. Dr marks had to emigrate to New Zealand. I remember my mum first telling me about him. (He was her boss for a few years.) I've seen him in documentaries since. Ahead of his time. " | |||
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"Alan Turing" Thing is he wasn't famous at all at the time..official secrets act ..and all that. He's only become famous posthumously when enigma and Bletchley Park came to light. Despicable behaviour by the establishment shits. | |||
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"Alan Turing Thing is he wasn't famous at all at the time..official secrets act ..and all that. He's only become famous posthumously when enigma and Bletchley Park came to light. Despicable behaviour by the establishment shits." Over in Manchester's Gay Village, in Sackville gardens, Canal Street is a statue of Alan sitting on a park bench ///output.share.catch (What 3 words) and yet there isn't anything like this over in bletcley town centre. | |||
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"Alan Turing Thing is he wasn't famous at all at the time..official secrets act ..and all that. He's only become famous posthumously when enigma and Bletchley Park came to light. Despicable behaviour by the establishment shits." He was famous in the computing world before all the bletchley park stuff came out due to all his post war work. | |||
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"Alan Turing" Agree, so sad! | |||
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"Marie Antoinette even though she did say to "Let them eat cake". She would have been very popular on fab "Ahh yes Miss Marie Antoinette "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" In other words "let them eat Brioche" she said | |||
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"Ann Boleyn. That poor woman On this theme, Katherine aHoward. Just 17 when married to an old Henry then vilified (then executed) for having an affair." It's even more astonishing when you realise that both Anne and Katherine were both cousins. | |||
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"Alan Turing Thing is he wasn't famous at all at the time..official secrets act ..and all that. He's only become famous posthumously when enigma and Bletchley Park came to light. Despicable behaviour by the establishment shits. Over in Manchester's Gay Village, in Sackville gardens, Canal Street is a statue of Alan sitting on a park bench ///output.share.catch (What 3 words) and yet there isn't anything like this over in bletcley town centre." Sure there's a statue of him at Bletchley Park (in the exhibition about him). True that's not in the town centre, if that's what you mean... | |||
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"Angus Deayton, when he was removed from Have I Got News for You." Seems tame compared to what came later | |||
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"Alan Turing" Well said. | |||
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"Katie Price the grief she gets with her oldest son there’s no place in this world for bully’s! " Nope. Every other aspect of her life is an absolute train wreck of her own devising though. | |||
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"Darth Vader "Married to Ellie. | |||
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"A new one but the hawk tuah girl She's just used all the money she's made to open a dog sanctuary " Yup, I think there are a lot of right leaning/ redpill folk annoyed she didn't live up to their image of what she would be like. Her lack of filters and her being pretty wholesome was really refreshing. | |||
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"Guy Fawks" Yeah... the only person in history to go into parliament with honest intentions 🤣🤣 | |||
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"Most of them tbh but Jamie Oliver can fuck off." Have you seen the YouTube videos where Uncle Roger absolutely flames Jamie's Asian dishes? "How you fuck up so fast? You the Usain Bolt of fucking up" made me spray tea out of my nose. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be." exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader ." Correct only approx 16% have passports Those few sadly have a better understanding of the world and its cosmopolitan cultures | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be." He was involved with epstein ? He deffo deserves it like....what 🤣 | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . Correct only approx 16% have passports Those few sadly have a better understanding of the world and its cosmopolitan cultures " America is so BIG though why would you need to go anywhere else and they can't take their guns with them on the plane . | |||
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"Most of them tbh but Jamie Oliver can fuck off. Have you seen the YouTube videos where Uncle Roger absolutely flames Jamie's Asian dishes? "How you fuck up so fast? You the Usain Bolt of fucking up" made me spray tea out of my nose." There's a clip where Oliver shows a bunch of kids how chicken nuggets are made and then smugly asks "now who would still eat them?" They all put their hands up and his crushed little face gets me every time. | |||
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"Most of them tbh but Jamie Oliver can fuck off. Have you seen the YouTube videos where Uncle Roger absolutely flames Jamie's Asian dishes? "How you fuck up so fast? You the Usain Bolt of fucking up" made me spray tea out of my nose." I’ll have to look it up. Seeing him miserable would make me so happy | |||
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"Most of them tbh but Jamie Oliver can fuck off. Have you seen the YouTube videos where Uncle Roger absolutely flames Jamie's Asian dishes? "How you fuck up so fast? You the Usain Bolt of fucking up" made me spray tea out of my nose. There's a clip where Oliver shows a bunch of kids how chicken nuggets are made and then smugly asks "now who would still eat them?" They all put their hands up and his crushed little face gets me every time." I loved that video | |||
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"Galileo Not sure he ever got the heretic tag removed? Inquisition was brutal " On that note, Giordano Bruno. Unlike Galileo refused to recant. Got himself burned at the stake in Rome for it. | |||
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"Afternoon everyone
Hey Busman. I'll start the ball rolling with J K Rowling "Agreed | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader ." People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . Correct only approx 16% have passports Those few sadly have a better understanding of the world and its cosmopolitan cultures America is so BIG though why would you need to go anywhere else and they can't take their guns with them on the plane ." Going on holiday isn't always just about a change of scenery. Some people like to experience different cultures and ways of life. The US is pretty homogenous as a society. Though I have had this debate before and the American guy said that his state had better Mexican food.. Yeah. It took a while for him to realise what he said. His favourite American cuisine was actually Mexican cuisine. | |||
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"Most of them tbh but Jamie Oliver can fuck off. Have you seen the YouTube videos where Uncle Roger absolutely flames Jamie's Asian dishes? "How you fuck up so fast? You the Usain Bolt of fucking up" made me spray tea out of my nose. I’ll have to look it up. Seeing him miserable would make me so happy "Just search for Uncle Roger Jamie oliver Thai green curry | |||
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"Angus Deayton, when he was removed from Have I Got News for You. Seems tame compared to what came later " Tbh I couldn't understand what all the fuss was about at the time, he shouldn't have lost his job over it. | |||
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"Pete Townshend Hmmm, I understand the reasons he did it. But did he really NOT deserve the backlash for that particular crime? "Still waiting for that novel to come out... | |||
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"Tommy Robinson. His journalistic work is amazing and important for anybody that cares to watch it. " Little coward Tommy who has run away to hide? And incites others so they can get arrested? He is not a journalist . Hate propaganda is not journalism | |||
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"Most of them tbh but Jamie Oliver can fuck off. Have you seen the YouTube videos where Uncle Roger absolutely flames Jamie's Asian dishes? "How you fuck up so fast? You the Usain Bolt of fucking up" made me spray tea out of my nose. There's a clip where Oliver shows a bunch of kids how chicken nuggets are made and then smugly asks "now who would still eat them?" They all put their hands up and his crushed little face gets me every time." I saw a clip where he was making pasta and sloshing pasta water all over the place. Commentating chef explained that if anyone did this kind of shit in a professional kitchen they would be sacked. It’s all show, all contrived. | |||
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"Enoch Powell " Why? | |||
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"Pete Townshend Hmmm, I understand the reasons he did it. But did he really NOT deserve the backlash for that particular crime?
Still waiting for that novel to come out..."Was published in 2012 | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . Correct only approx 16% have passports Those few sadly have a better understanding of the world and its cosmopolitan cultures America is so BIG though why would you need to go anywhere else and they can't take their guns with them on the plane . Going on holiday isn't always just about a change of scenery. Some people like to experience different cultures and ways of life. The US is pretty homogenous as a society. Though I have had this debate before and the American guy said that his state had better Mexican food.. Yeah. It took a while for him to realise what he said. His favourite American cuisine was actually Mexican cuisine. " Two observations: 1. Texas was Mexican until it was annexed by the USA in the 1840s. A lot of Mexicans still feel it is theirs so the guy was probably correct about the food. 2. How can you say America is homogenised? Have you actually seen the country? There is literally no overlap between some upscale Californian and someone who has spent their life in Detroit. Someone who grows up in Montana has pretty much nothing in common with someone from Mahattan. Pick any two places in the USA and you can pretty much guarantee their lives are so much more different from each other than any two places in the UK. | |||
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"Afternoon everyone
Hey Busman. I'll start the ball rolling with J K Rowling "Why? | |||
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"Meghan Markle " Loved her character in Suits, hate her now. | |||
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"Meghan Markle Loved her character in Suits, hate her now." Love and hate are strong words | |||
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"Meghan Markle Loved her character in Suits, hate her now." Same! I loved Suits but the way she’s portrayed in the media…not my cup of tea - Mrs | |||
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"Not sure I agree with anyone’s personal life being subject to unauthorised public scrutiny just for the sake of entertainment. Unless there’s a solid reasoning like public safety some things should stay private. Could you imagine if your mistakes, sex escapades or simply just unflattering pictures were plastered over the internet for anyone to see. No thanks. That stuff can be damaging to peoples mental health Even if you take the likes of Tiger Woods the golfer, can you imagine how his wife felt with all that dirty laundry in the media. And that’s now online forever for his kids and their friends to see or fellow peers to tease - Mrs" I think it comes with the territory a bit. Part of our culture to subject certain people to this. And it's not like this is new. I think most of them who had a choice knew it'd be like this going in. (By "have a choice", the royals who were born into it don't) | |||
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"Marcus Rashford. There was a period he wasn't playing well and people were literally saying that his work off the field feeding kids was distracting him and that he should focus on his football." imagine getting mad about someone trying to get kids fed. We live in a fucked up world. | |||
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"Marcus Rashford. There was a period he wasn't playing well and people were literally saying that his work off the field feeding kids was distracting him and that he should focus on his football." Absolutely! And Saka afterthe penalties. Poor kid. | |||
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"Angus Deayton, when he was removed from Have I Got News for You. Seems tame compared to what came later Tbh I couldn't understand what all the fuss was about at the time, he shouldn't have lost his job over it." He lost his job because he lied about "no more bad press to come". And then a few weeks later a whole load more bad press came out. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be. He was involved with epstein ? He deffo deserves it like....what 🤣" I see you don’t have good reading comprehension | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well. "It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler? Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . Correct only approx 16% have passports Those few sadly have a better understanding of the world and its cosmopolitan cultures America is so BIG though why would you need to go anywhere else and they can't take their guns with them on the plane . Going on holiday isn't always just about a change of scenery. Some people like to experience different cultures and ways of life. The US is pretty homogenous as a society. Though I have had this debate before and the American guy said that his state had better Mexican food.. Yeah. It took a while for him to realise what he said. His favourite American cuisine was actually Mexican cuisine. Two observations: 1. Texas was Mexican until it was annexed by the USA in the 1840s. A lot of Mexicans still feel it is theirs so the guy was probably correct about the food. 2. How can you say America is homogenised? Have you actually seen the country? There is literally no overlap between some upscale Californian and someone who has spent their life in Detroit. Someone who grows up in Montana has pretty much nothing in common with someone from Mahattan. Pick any two places in the USA and you can pretty much guarantee their lives are so much more different from each other than any two places in the UK. " I've worked in the US for ~ 2 years across 5 states. You aren't getting my analogy. Yes it may be slightly more exaggerated than travelling between rural Cumbria and London, but it is still far more homogenous than travelling from London to Norway, or Italy, or Greece or Hungary. Regardless of the terrain in the US, they still use their own money, shop in their normal stores, have the same history, eat (mostly) the same food, see the same TV. So it's not really culturally that different. Incidentally the war against Mexico is the last war that the US won on its own, and the only one where it held onto the territory. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two "Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society. The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning. And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
Well don't leave us in suspense, what are some of the startling similarities? "I don't really have time to list them all, but I recommend reading up on some of the articles and academic studies which look into it in detail. The two easy ones are labelling the media as fake news and enemies of the people, and demonising a group of people to blame for all 'your' problems. It genuinely is fascinating and terrifying at the same time. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be." Donald Trump who pretty much goaded his cult in to starting a civil war and is still at it today? Donald Trump who is the convicted sex offender? Donald Trump who has multiple accusations of being a pedo against him and was a close friend of Epstein? Donald Trump who stole millions from the children’s charity he set up? Donald Trump who called servicemen killed or wounded ‘losers’- despite dodging the draft due to physical incapacity, but also claiming OJ Simpson called him one of the final natural athletes he’d ever seen. Donald Trump who was found with various classified documents at his residence, way after no longer being president and eligible to have them- with a dubious record of being linked to Putin and other shoddy dictators? Donald Trump who mocked the disabled in a public speech? Donald Trump, the self proclaimed genius businessman, who has bankrupted numerous companies and has hundreds of court cases against him for non payment of bills Donald Trump who claimed he had to land his plane in an emergency recently, then drive 2 hours to a rally- despite there being a local airfield (that he just happened to owe money to) and mysteriously, his plane was fixed by the time he had to leave Donald Trump who has pretty much openly stated he plans on getting rid of voting if he gets in and will go full on dictatorship That’s just a brief overview of some of his many highlights….no idea why he gets a hard time  | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
"They really aren’t startling at all because there are no similarities, and it’s people like you that cause division and actually bring about extremism. Because you tell others that they are supporting a hitler-esque character (when they aren’t) and ridicule them. Then those people will thinkWell I like Donald. They’re saying he’s the same as hitler - maybe H was demonised and made out to be worse than he was also? Maybe history was wrong? Maybe the media are calling him racist when he’s not, just like they’re doing to me” and then those people get welcomed with open arms by actual extremists who don’t ridicule them and they then get slowly groomed and radicalised. When in reality if you just were realistic and not hyperbolic those people wouldn’t have felt so alienated and confused and would not have lost trust in others. Which btw is something that is a documented fact as is happening around the world. | |||
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"Michael Barrymore " Wtf - he may not have killed that man but he certainly knows who did. Justice for Stuart Lubbock!! | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
They really aren’t startling at all because there are no similarities, and it’s people like you that cause division and actually bring about extremism.
Because you tell others that they are supporting a hitler-esque character (when they aren’t) and ridicule them. Then those people will thinkWell I like Donald. They’re saying he’s the same as hitler - maybe H was demonised and made out to be worse than he was also? Maybe history was wrong? Maybe the media are calling him racist when he’s not, just like they’re doing to me” and then those people get welcomed with open arms by actual extremists who don’t ridicule them and they then get slowly groomed and radicalised.
When in reality if you just were realistic and not hyperbolic those people wouldn’t have felt so alienated and confused and would not have lost trust in others.
Which btw is something that is a documented fact as is happening around the world. "Are you saying Hitler wasn't as bad as we think he was? Stop the world I want off 😭 | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
They really aren’t startling at all because there are no similarities, and it’s people like you that cause division and actually bring about extremism.
Because you tell others that they are supporting a hitler-esque character (when they aren’t) and ridicule them. Then those people will thinkWell I like Donald. They’re saying he’s the same as hitler - maybe H was demonised and made out to be worse than he was also? Maybe history was wrong? Maybe the media are calling him racist when he’s not, just like they’re doing to me” and then those people get welcomed with open arms by actual extremists who don’t ridicule them and they then get slowly groomed and radicalised.
When in reality if you just were realistic and not hyperbolic those people wouldn’t have felt so alienated and confused and would not have lost trust in others.
Which btw is something that is a documented fact as is happening around the world.
Are you saying Hitler wasn't as bad as we think he was?
Stop the world I want off 😭"Dear god. Can people not read on here ? | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
They really aren’t startling at all because there are no similarities, and it’s people like you that cause division and actually bring about extremism.
Because you tell others that they are supporting a hitler-esque character (when they aren’t) and ridicule them. Then those people will thinkWell I like Donald. They’re saying he’s the same as hitler - maybe H was demonised and made out to be worse than he was also? Maybe history was wrong? Maybe the media are calling him racist when he’s not, just like they’re doing to me” and then those people get welcomed with open arms by actual extremists who don’t ridicule them and they then get slowly groomed and radicalised.
When in reality if you just were realistic and not hyperbolic those people wouldn’t have felt so alienated and confused and would not have lost trust in others.
Which btw is something that is a documented fact as is happening around the world.
Are you saying Hitler wasn't as bad as we think he was?
Stop the world I want off 😭"For clarity - no I am not saying that. I was explaining that by saying that trump and hitler are equal, you are diminishing the atrocities that hitler did, and paving the way for less educated people to think he wasn’t that bad if he’s “the same as trump”. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
They really aren’t startling at all because there are no similarities, and it’s people like you that cause division and actually bring about extremism.
Because you tell others that they are supporting a hitler-esque character (when they aren’t) and ridicule them. Then those people will thinkWell I like Donald. They’re saying he’s the same as hitler - maybe H was demonised and made out to be worse than he was also? Maybe history was wrong? Maybe the media are calling him racist when he’s not, just like they’re doing to me” and then those people get welcomed with open arms by actual extremists who don’t ridicule them and they then get slowly groomed and radicalised.
When in reality if you just were realistic and not hyperbolic those people wouldn’t have felt so alienated and confused and would not have lost trust in others.
Which btw is something that is a documented fact as is happening around the world.
Are you saying Hitler wasn't as bad as we think he was?
Stop the world I want off 😭
For clarity - no I am not saying that. I was explaining that by saying that trump and hitler are equal, you are diminishing the atrocities that hitler did, and paving the way for less educated people to think he wasn’t that bad if he’s “the same as trump”."Or maybe less educated people are unaware of the similarities, including Trump calling to concentrate people in camps, and we risk sleepwalking into disaster. Reading is useful. Thinking we're beyond this kind of horror is how we repeat it. | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
They really aren’t startling at all because there are no similarities, and it’s people like you that cause division and actually bring about extremism.
Because you tell others that they are supporting a hitler-esque character (when they aren’t) and ridicule them. Then those people will thinkWell I like Donald. They’re saying he’s the same as hitler - maybe H was demonised and made out to be worse than he was also? Maybe history was wrong? Maybe the media are calling him racist when he’s not, just like they’re doing to me” and then those people get welcomed with open arms by actual extremists who don’t ridicule them and they then get slowly groomed and radicalised.
When in reality if you just were realistic and not hyperbolic those people wouldn’t have felt so alienated and confused and would not have lost trust in others.
Which btw is something that is a documented fact as is happening around the world.
Are you saying Hitler wasn't as bad as we think he was?
Stop the world I want off 😭
For clarity - no I am not saying that. I was explaining that by saying that trump and hitler are equal, you are diminishing the atrocities that hitler did, and paving the way for less educated people to think he wasn’t that bad if he’s “the same as trump”.
Or maybe less educated people are unaware of the similarities, including Trump calling to concentrate people in camps, and we risk sleepwalking into disaster.
Reading is useful. Thinking we're beyond this kind of horror is how we repeat it."All American leaders have people in camps and they all drop bombs on kids there really is no lesser evil it’s literally pick your evil over there | |||
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"Nigel Farage. Single handedly ruined life for millions " Totally agree - he is a nasty, manipulative, self-serving, racist who doesn't care who he hurts. Horrible man | |||
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"Nigel Farage. Single handedly ruined life for millions Totally agree - he is a nasty, manipulative, self-serving, racist who doesn't care who he hurts. Horrible man" Farage belongs to the OTHER thread. IYKYK | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
They really aren’t startling at all because there are no similarities, and it’s people like you that cause division and actually bring about extremism.
Because you tell others that they are supporting a hitler-esque character (when they aren’t) and ridicule them. Then those people will thinkWell I like Donald. They’re saying he’s the same as hitler - maybe H was demonised and made out to be worse than he was also? Maybe history was wrong? Maybe the media are calling him racist when he’s not, just like they’re doing to me” and then those people get welcomed with open arms by actual extremists who don’t ridicule them and they then get slowly groomed and radicalised.
When in reality if you just were realistic and not hyperbolic those people wouldn’t have felt so alienated and confused and would not have lost trust in others.
Which btw is something that is a documented fact as is happening around the world.
Are you saying Hitler wasn't as bad as we think he was?
Stop the world I want off 😭
For clarity - no I am not saying that. I was explaining that by saying that trump and hitler are equal, you are diminishing the atrocities that hitler did, and paving the way for less educated people to think he wasn’t that bad if he’s “the same as trump”.
Or maybe less educated people are unaware of the similarities, including Trump calling to concentrate people in camps, and we risk sleepwalking into disaster.
Reading is useful. Thinking we're beyond this kind of horror is how we repeat it.
All American leaders have people in camps and they all drop bombs on kids there really is no lesser evil it’s literally pick your evil over there "And yet one side is openly saying they'll make it worse 🤷♀️ | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be.exactly remember their are 330million people in America and at least a third of them voted him in as their leader . People voted for Hitler. And that turned out well.
It’s almost as if you didn’t understand the initial comment. Or maybe you’re not knowledgeable about hitler?
Either way, there’s no comparison whatsoever between the two
Respectfully, I disagree. I do agree he's an idiot, but as president he could make some significant changes that could alter the fabric of American society.
The undercurrent of right wing ideology that's supporting him is concerning.
And I know quite a lot about Hitler and how he came to power. Some of the similarities are startling.
They really aren’t startling at all because there are no similarities, and it’s people like you that cause division and actually bring about extremism.
Because you tell others that they are supporting a hitler-esque character (when they aren’t) and ridicule them. Then those people will thinkWell I like Donald. They’re saying he’s the same as hitler - maybe H was demonised and made out to be worse than he was also? Maybe history was wrong? Maybe the media are calling him racist when he’s not, just like they’re doing to me” and then those people get welcomed with open arms by actual extremists who don’t ridicule them and they then get slowly groomed and radicalised.
When in reality if you just were realistic and not hyperbolic those people wouldn’t have felt so alienated and confused and would not have lost trust in others.
Which btw is something that is a documented fact as is happening around the world. "I'm pretty sure I haven't ridiculed anyone or said anything to demonise or drive someone to extremism. I referred to similarities which are documented and academic studies which I believe is not hyperbolic and pretty realistic. I like to think that I don't blindly believe anything that someone says just because I either like or dislike them. At heart I'm a cynical old fuck which is why I research and take in as much information as possible on a person or subject before reaching a conclusion. Which in itself is amazing as I'm also a lazy bastard. You reference people being alienated and lost. This is very true. But who is pushing this agenda globally and to what end? As I said, it's fascinating and terrifying equally. | |||
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"Hitler. Misunderstood
*Disclaimer he was a nutcase and managed to escape justice in a cowardly way*"But he was only a dictator on one day. Of course on that one day he ended democracy and assured there was no recourse. | |||
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"Tommy Robinson. His journalistic work is amazing and important for anybody that cares to watch it. Little coward Tommy who has run away to hide? And incites others so they can get arrested? He is not a journalist . Hate propaganda is not journalism " This exactly. Ten names Tommy. Just a grifter who is happy to fleece his followers for their hard earned benefits. Blaming brown people for every problem this country has is not journalism just race baiting rabble rousing. | |||
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"Greta Thunberg, especially when she was a child. Also not a celebrity but I'm sure everyone has heard her name. Shamima Begum." strongly agree on both of these. | |||
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"Greta Thunberg, especially when she was a child. Also not a celebrity but I'm sure everyone has heard her name. Shamima Begum.strongly agree on both of these." I'm with you here slinky | |||
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"Can’t believe I’m saying this but… Donald Trump. Yeah he’s an idiot but he’s not this hitler-esquire character that much of the world and media try and paint him out to be. Donald Trump who pretty much goaded his cult in to starting a civil war and is still at it today? Donald Trump who is the convicted sex offender? Donald Trump who has multiple accusations of being a pedo against him and was a close friend of Epstein? Donald Trump who stole millions from the children’s charity he set up? Donald Trump who called servicemen killed or wounded ‘losers’- despite dodging the draft due to physical incapacity, but also claiming OJ Simpson called him one of the final natural athletes he’d ever seen. Donald Trump who was found with various classified documents at his residence, way after no longer being president and eligible to have them- with a dubious record of being linked to Putin and other shoddy dictators? Donald Trump who mocked the disabled in a public speech? Donald Trump, the self proclaimed genius businessman, who has bankrupted numerous companies and has hundreds of court cases against him for non payment of bills Donald Trump who claimed he had to land his plane in an emergency recently, then drive 2 hours to a rally- despite there being a local airfield (that he just happened to owe money to) and mysteriously, his plane was fixed by the time he had to leave Donald Trump who has pretty much openly stated he plans on getting rid of voting if he gets in and will go full on dictatorship That’s just a brief overview of some of his many highlights….no idea why he gets a hard time "Wow! We only wanted a name  | |||
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"Katie Price the grief she gets with her oldest son there’s no place in this world for bully’s!
Harry & Meghan, Katie Price. Dianne Abbot & JK Rowling what they said about racism and periods was technically correct but politically unpopular for sheep too scared of a debate.
I’m not sure that labelling contrary views as ‘sheep’ is a good stance to begin a debate on but that’s your hill…
They don't want to debate the words they actually said , I just want to label them Or repeat the label somebody else gave them. So they are sheep"Megan wants to change the world and she see an opening into the royal family and thought ching ching what bigger platform I know I’ll shag Harry. Harry’s the biggest fucking sheep of the lot. Katie Price is a reckless twat but herself and Harvey do not deserve the shit they get Harvey is an incredible young man and for that alone I hold respect for Katie | |||
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"Katie Price the grief she gets with her oldest son there’s no place in this world for bully’s!
Harry & Meghan, Katie Price. Dianne Abbot & JK Rowling what they said about racism and periods was technically correct but politically unpopular for sheep too scared of a debate.
I’m not sure that labelling contrary views as ‘sheep’ is a good stance to begin a debate on but that’s your hill…
They don't want to debate the words they actually said , I just want to label them Or repeat the label somebody else gave them. So they are sheep Megan wants to change the world and she see an opening into the royal family and thought ching ching what bigger platform I know I’ll shag Harry. Harry’s the biggest fucking sheep of the lot. Katie Price is a reckless twat but herself and Harvey do not deserve the shit they get Harvey is an incredible young man and for that alone I hold respect for Katie"Why is harvey “incredible” ? | |||
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