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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 36 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news

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By (user no longer on site) 36 weeks ago

Recently watched a three part documentary about the case. Something def a bit fishy

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman 36 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news"

Is it the money that bothers you tom ?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS 36 weeks ago

Central

I'd hope that the money is being invested very well, now that so much time has passed. I'm not optimistic that it will continue that well now.

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By (user no longer on site) 36 weeks ago

I don’t get involved in much conversation about serious stuff on here, because it’s a sex site. … but.

I wonder about thinking outside the box here, and offer it to the internet. Hear me out.

Nasa, which is pretty damn good at what they do, has often offered amateur astronomers chances to help. And quite often new stars new galaxies have been found that way.

Because the Internet is filled with amateur detectives (and I’m not taking the piss) imagine the amount of people that would love to get involved with this. Who knows they might have already seen something which somebody hasn’t picked up on all looked into enough.

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By *allySlinkyWoman 36 weeks ago

Leeds

I thought that Christian Brueckner is the prime supect now, currently on trial in Germany for unrelated sex crimes.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 36 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news

Is it the money that bothers you tom ?"

The money is staggering Granny.. what price Justice ?

But after all these years time to let go..

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By *offiaCoolWoman 36 weeks ago

Kidsgrove


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news

Is it the money that bothers you tom ?

The money is staggering Granny.. what price Justice ?

But after all these years time to let go.."

Easy to say when it is not your child.

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By *host63Man 36 weeks ago

Bedfont Feltham


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news"

I remain convinced its the parents. Really however you look at it who leaves a 5yr old child in a bedroom alone? And go out to dinner specifically when the complex they were staying in had a babysitting service?

Even if they did not have something to do with it they are guilty of neglect.

If this was Karen from the council estate fone this did would be in court, tried. And sentenced.

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By *allySlinkyWoman 36 weeks ago

Leeds


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But after all these years time to let go.."

Would you also say that to the Post Office workers falsely imprisoned ?

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By *octor ProdMan 36 weeks ago

working Overseas

I think the issue with this case amd the continued funding, is that there have been an awful lot of children who have gone missing and their families haven't had anywhere near as must police support.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 36 weeks ago

Chelmsford

It was 17 years ago in May

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex

Ben Needham has been missing for 31 years

It's only money, huge sums of which are literally and metaphorically poured down the drain daily by various authorities and powers that be.

Let them continue to search for this young woman.

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By *allySlinkyWoman 36 weeks ago

Leeds


"It was 17 years ago in May"

The Post Office scandal started 25 years ago and is still being investigated

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"It was 17 years ago in May

The Post Office scandal started 25 years ago and is still being investigated"

And both involve really bad things happening to innocent people

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By *ickeyblueeyes7Man 36 weeks ago

newport


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news

I remain convinced its the parents. Really however you look at it who leaves a 5yr old child in a bedroom alone? And go out to dinner specifically when the complex they were staying in had a babysitting service?

Even if they did not have something to do with it they are guilty of neglect.

If this was Karen from the council estate fone this did would be in court, tried. And sentenced."

Exactly this, and don’t forget there were two other younger siblings left alone, what decent parents leave three under five children alone then go out to dinner and nothing is done about that. The whole process has been badly run and no more money of taxpayers money should be spent on the case

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex

I don't mind whatever proportion of my tax goes towards this case.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman 36 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"It was 17 years ago in May"

17 years precisely. May 3rd was when I heard the news.

I was travelling to my daughters funeral so M.Mcann is forever in my head.

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By *arry monk40Man 36 weeks ago

Telford

End of march 2022 5200 people were long term missing 1700 were children why do they only look for this one were the parents of the other 1699 afforded £13m?

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"End of march 2022 5200 people were long term missing 1700 were children why do they only look for this one were the parents of the other 1699 afforded £13m?"

Are they only looking for this one?

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"It was 17 years ago in May

17 years precisely. May 3rd was when I heard the news.

I was travelling to my daughters funeral so M.Mcann is forever in my head. "

I'm sure it is

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By *ts the taking part thatMan 36 weeks ago

southampton


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news

Is it the money that bothers you tom ?

The money is staggering Granny.. what price Justice ?

But after all these years time to let go..

Easy to say when it is not your child."

Easier if they'd looked after their children properly. Appalling parenting.

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news

Is it the money that bothers you tom ?

The money is staggering Granny.. what price Justice ?

But after all these years time to let go..

Easy to say when it is not your child.

Easier if they'd looked after their children properly. Appalling parenting."

Is it your opinion that they should stop looking?

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By *illan-KillashMan 36 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news

Is it the money that bothers you tom ?

The money is staggering Granny.. what price Justice ?

But after all these years time to let go..

Easy to say when it is not your child.

Easier if they'd looked after their children properly. Appalling parenting."

Does losing a child not seem an unduly excessive "punishment" for not looking after their children properly?

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex

Our daughter went missing once. She was 15 so obviously older than Madeleine. I'm sure people could have blamed our parenting at the time, we along with many families experienced difficult teenage years.

The police were involved but we found her ourselves. However if we hadn't we would never have stopped looking... ever. I wouldn't care how much money was spent either.

I think people are concentrating too much on the parents and the money instead of the child. Where do our priorities lay?

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By *illan-KillashMan 36 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"Our daughter went missing once. She was 15 so obviously older than Madeleine. I'm sure people could have blamed our parenting at the time, we along with many families experienced difficult teenage years.

The police were involved but we found her ourselves. However if we hadn't we would never have stopped looking... ever. I wouldn't care how much money was spent either.

I think people are concentrating too much on the parents and the money instead of the child. Where do our priorities lay?"

Madeliene McCann threads always go the same way.

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"Our daughter went missing once. She was 15 so obviously older than Madeleine. I'm sure people could have blamed our parenting at the time, we along with many families experienced difficult teenage years.

The police were involved but we found her ourselves. However if we hadn't we would never have stopped looking... ever. I wouldn't care how much money was spent either.

I think people are concentrating too much on the parents and the money instead of the child. Where do our priorities lay?

Madeliene McCann threads always go the same way. "

Yeah. I should really keep it zipped

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By *illan-KillashMan 36 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"Our daughter went missing once. She was 15 so obviously older than Madeleine. I'm sure people could have blamed our parenting at the time, we along with many families experienced difficult teenage years.

The police were involved but we found her ourselves. However if we hadn't we would never have stopped looking... ever. I wouldn't care how much money was spent either.

I think people are concentrating too much on the parents and the money instead of the child. Where do our priorities lay?

Madeliene McCann threads always go the same way.

Yeah. I should really keep it zipped "

Rookie mistake, talking sense on MM threads.

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"Our daughter went missing once. She was 15 so obviously older than Madeleine. I'm sure people could have blamed our parenting at the time, we along with many families experienced difficult teenage years.

The police were involved but we found her ourselves. However if we hadn't we would never have stopped looking... ever. I wouldn't care how much money was spent either.

I think people are concentrating too much on the parents and the money instead of the child. Where do our priorities lay?

Madeliene McCann threads always go the same way.

Yeah. I should really keep it zipped

Rookie mistake, talking sense on MM threads. "

you think I'd have learned by now

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By *ools and the brainCouple 36 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.


"Our daughter went missing once. She was 15 so obviously older than Madeleine. I'm sure people could have blamed our parenting at the time, we along with many families experienced difficult teenage years.

The police were involved but we found her ourselves. However if we hadn't we would never have stopped looking... ever. I wouldn't care how much money was spent either.

I think people are concentrating too much on the parents and the money instead of the child. Where do our priorities lay?

Madeliene McCann threads always go the same way.

Yeah. I should really keep it zipped

Rookie mistake, talking sense on MM threads. "

Don't worry someone will be along shortly to claim "secret inside knowledge" that apparently everyone else knows apart from the police

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By *ust want fun 888Man 36 weeks ago

nearby


"I don’t get involved in much conversation about serious stuff on here, because it’s a sex site. … but.

I wonder about thinking outside the box here, and offer it to the internet. Hear me out.

Nasa, which is pretty damn good at what they do, has often offered amateur astronomers chances to help. And quite often new stars new galaxies have been found that way.

Because the Internet is filled with amateur detectives (and I’m not taking the piss) imagine the amount of people that would love to get involved with this. Who knows they might have already seen something which somebody hasn’t picked up on all looked into enough. "

I totally hear you, look at that documentary on Netflix, don’t fuck with cats, it was the Internet and the people using it that caught the murderer, not the police

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"I don’t get involved in much conversation about serious stuff on here, because it’s a sex site. … but.

I wonder about thinking outside the box here, and offer it to the internet. Hear me out.

Nasa, which is pretty damn good at what they do, has often offered amateur astronomers chances to help. And quite often new stars new galaxies have been found that way.

Because the Internet is filled with amateur detectives (and I’m not taking the piss) imagine the amount of people that would love to get involved with this. Who knows they might have already seen something which somebody hasn’t picked up on all looked into enough. I totally hear you, look at that documentary on Netflix, don’t fuck with cats, it was the Internet and the people using it that caught the murderer, not the police"

Why haven't these people become involved and taken their findings to the police?

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By (user no longer on site) 36 weeks ago


"I don’t get involved in much conversation about serious stuff on here, because it’s a sex site. … but.

I wonder about thinking outside the box here, and offer it to the internet. Hear me out.

Nasa, which is pretty damn good at what they do, has often offered amateur astronomers chances to help. And quite often new stars new galaxies have been found that way.

Because the Internet is filled with amateur detectives (and I’m not taking the piss) imagine the amount of people that would love to get involved with this. Who knows they might have already seen something which somebody hasn’t picked up on all looked into enough. I totally hear you, look at that documentary on Netflix, don’t fuck with cats, it was the Internet and the people using it that caught the murderer, not the police

Why haven't these people become involved and taken their findings to the police?"

When nothing makes sense. Money.

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By (user no longer on site) 36 weeks ago

I am sure if she would have been working class she would have been long forgotten by now

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By *icecouple561Couple 36 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"I don’t get involved in much conversation about serious stuff on here, because it’s a sex site. … but.

I wonder about thinking outside the box here, and offer it to the internet. Hear me out.

Nasa, which is pretty damn good at what they do, has often offered amateur astronomers chances to help. And quite often new stars new galaxies have been found that way.

Because the Internet is filled with amateur detectives (and I’m not taking the piss) imagine the amount of people that would love to get involved with this. Who knows they might have already seen something which somebody hasn’t picked up on all looked into enough. I totally hear you, look at that documentary on Netflix, don’t fuck with cats, it was the Internet and the people using it that caught the murderer, not the police

Why haven't these people become involved and taken their findings to the police?

When nothing makes sense. Money. "

Yeah that's true enough.

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By *ark73XXXMan 36 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire

My god this thread is awful

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Sadly the girl is in all likelihood not alive and the possibility of finding her is slim and the likelihood of a conviction miniscule..

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"Sadly the girl is in all likelihood not alive and the possibility of finding her is slim and the likelihood of a conviction miniscule.. "

What’s your point?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford

We are still throwing money at it for what return ?

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By *arley QuimWoman 35 weeks ago

Somewhere


"We are still throwing money at it for what return ?"

I'm going out on a limb here, and probably wrong - yes, a lot of money has been spent, yes her parents helped to drum some 9f that funding up, yes she is/was a white, blonde haired, blue eyed 'sweet looking child' which probably captured a lot of public attention via the media...

But... There are sadly so many cases of children going missing. If one child, or remains be found to provide closure to the case. Then in a way that may give some hope to other families who have lost a child or teenager or relative too. I suspect the answer lies in the 'unknowing', and that is what really destroys people sadly linked to cases like these personally.

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"We are still throwing money at it for what return ?"

So? Perhaps you think that money should be spent on some other area?

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By *arley QuimWoman 35 weeks ago

Somewhere

Didn't the last dig the moors in 2022 in another attempt to find the remains of Keith Bennett? I honestly don't believe we should ever give up on searches for children who go missing, no matter how much time passes.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"We are still throwing money at it for what return ?

So? Perhaps you think that money should be spent on some other area? "

Yes

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By *icecouple561Couple 35 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"Didn't the last dig the moors in 2022 in another attempt to find the remains of Keith Bennett? I honestly don't believe we should ever give up on searches for children who go missing, no matter how much time passes. "

Yes, his mum spent her whole life looking for him. At one point She went looking herself taking a spare to dig. She died in 2012.

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By *arley QuimWoman 35 weeks ago

Somewhere


"Didn't the last dig the moors in 2022 in another attempt to find the remains of Keith Bennett? I honestly don't believe we should ever give up on searches for children who go missing, no matter how much time passes.

Yes, his mum spent her whole life looking for him. At one point She went looking herself taking a spare to dig. She died in 2012. "

Just heartbreaking really.

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"We are still throwing money at it for what return ?

So? Perhaps you think that money should be spent on some other area?

Yes"

What other areas?

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By *icecouple561Couple 35 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"Didn't the last dig the moors in 2022 in another attempt to find the remains of Keith Bennett? I honestly don't believe we should ever give up on searches for children who go missing, no matter how much time passes.

Yes, his mum spent her whole life looking for him. At one point She went looking herself taking a spare to dig. She died in 2012.

Just heartbreaking really. "

It is.

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By *ucka39Man 35 weeks ago

Newcastle


"Ben Needham has been missing for 31 years

It's only money, huge sums of which are literally and metaphorically poured down the drain daily by various authorities and powers that be.

Let them continue to search for this young woman. "

Totally agree with this as there isn't a definite answer what is/happened to her and possibly still alive

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"Our daughter went missing once. She was 15 so obviously older than Madeleine. I'm sure people could have blamed our parenting at the time, we along with many families experienced difficult teenage years.

The police were involved but we found her ourselves. However if we hadn't we would never have stopped looking... ever. I wouldn't care how much money was spent either.

I think people are concentrating too much on the parents and the money instead of the child. Where do our priorities lay?"

Not sure most people are focusing on the money except the OP

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By *ullyMan 35 weeks ago

Near Clacton

I agree, but nothing is stopping amateur sleuths from investigating as far as I know. Most if not all "known" about the case is in the public domain now. The only facts not out there is what the Mc Canns are NOT saying.

I have seen and watched quite a few posts on the net whereby Amateurs have solved old cases.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper..

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper.. "

Amazing how you’re never banned from here

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By *ucka39Man 35 weeks ago

Newcastle


"Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper.. "

Did you know that the queen's cousin was also a suspect as a copycat and maybe did some hmmm

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper..

Amazing how you’re never banned from here "

For stating the obvious ?

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper..

Amazing how you’re never banned from here

For stating the obvious ? "

I realise it’s probably been a bad few days for you with the elections so I’ll not push the point

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper..

Amazing how you’re never banned from here

For stating the obvious ?

I realise it’s probably been a bad few days for you with the elections so I’ll not push the point "

Or giving an opinion. Why not silence anyone who does not follow the party line

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By *ermbiMan 35 weeks ago

Ballyshannon

Some very selfish and judgemental comments from a few ill informed and ignorant people. Shame on those pointing the finger and giving out about tax payers money. A girl who is now a young woman is missing. Parents will never get over it. I hope you are never in such a situation. Grow up and be a bit more respectful.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Some very selfish and judgemental comments from a few ill informed and ignorant people. Shame on those pointing the finger and giving out about tax payers money. A girl who is now a young woman is missing. Parents will never get over it. I hope you are never in such a situation. Grow up and be a bit more respectful. "

Absolutely. Everyone has an opinion and should be allowed to express it. Some just prefer to attack or undermine the person who posts.. very poor form.

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By *arley QuimWoman 35 weeks ago

Somewhere


"Some very selfish and judgemental comments from a few ill informed and ignorant people. Shame on those pointing the finger and giving out about tax payers money. A girl who is now a young woman is missing. Parents will never get over it. I hope you are never in such a situation. Grow up and be a bit more respectful.

Absolutely. Everyone has an opinion and should be allowed to express it. Some just prefer to attack or undermine the person who posts.. very poor form. "

What should we spend the cash on instead Tom?

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"Some very selfish and judgemental comments from a few ill informed and ignorant people. Shame on those pointing the finger and giving out about tax payers money. A girl who is now a young woman is missing. Parents will never get over it. I hope you are never in such a situation. Grow up and be a bit more respectful.

Absolutely. Everyone has an opinion and should be allowed to express it. Some just prefer to attack or undermine the person who posts.. very poor form.

What should we spend the cash on instead Tom? "

Maybe the very successful Rwanda scheme?

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By *ts the taking part thatMan 35 weeks ago

southampton


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news

Is it the money that bothers you tom ?

The money is staggering Granny.. what price Justice ?

But after all these years time to let go..

Easy to say when it is not your child.

Easier if they'd looked after their children properly. Appalling parenting.

Does losing a child not seem an unduly excessive "punishment" for not looking after their children properly?

"

You make it sound as if they were clumsy, they were irresponsible with their children's lives & 99% sure it cost one of them their life.

Pretty excessive price paid by Madelaine I'd say.

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper..

Amazing how you’re never banned from here

For stating the obvious ?

I realise it’s probably been a bad few days for you with the elections so I’ll not push the point

Or giving an opinion. Why not silence anyone who does not follow the party line"

Not silencing anyone - you put this on to get reactions and yet you get upset when those reactions arrive.

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By *allySlinkyWoman 35 weeks ago

Leeds

In 2011 serial killer Robert Black was convicted of the murder of Jennifer Cardy in 1981. The Police Investigation took 30 years but they didn't abandon the case.

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By *allySlinkyWoman 35 weeks ago

Leeds

Jennifer was nine years old

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By *stwo2023Couple 35 weeks ago

Worcester


"Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper..

Amazing how you’re never banned from here "

Why is that ban worthy?

Evie

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By *stwo2023Couple 35 weeks ago

Worcester


"I don’t get involved in much conversation about serious stuff on here, because it’s a sex site. … but.

I wonder about thinking outside the box here, and offer it to the internet. Hear me out.

Nasa, which is pretty damn good at what they do, has often offered amateur astronomers chances to help. And quite often new stars new galaxies have been found that way.

Because the Internet is filled with amateur detectives (and I’m not taking the piss) imagine the amount of people that would love to get involved with this. Who knows they might have already seen something which somebody hasn’t picked up on all looked into enough. "

Have you watched don't fuck with cats and seen the damage done of these internet sleuthers do when they hound the wrong person?

Evie

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago

Op you are right

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman 35 weeks ago

The Town by The Cross


"Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper..

Amazing how you’re never banned from here "

What insights do you have as to who has been banned and who hasn't ?

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By *illan-KillashMan 35 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news

Is it the money that bothers you tom ?

The money is staggering Granny.. what price Justice ?

But after all these years time to let go..

Easy to say when it is not your child.

Easier if they'd looked after their children properly. Appalling parenting.

Does losing a child not seem an unduly excessive "punishment" for not looking after their children properly?

You make it sound as if they were clumsy, they were irresponsible with their children's lives & 99% sure it cost one of them their life.

Pretty excessive price paid by Madelaine I'd say. "

Hindsight demonstrates they made a mistake, an error of judgement.

History shows the cost of that mistake.

It's a pretty awful cost.

Reading the MM threads it always reads like "you left yours kids alone, serves you right they're dead"

God forbid anyone ever makes a mistake with their child's upbringing.

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By *allySlinkyWoman 35 weeks ago

Leeds


"

Reading the MM threads it always reads like "you left yours kids alone, serves you right they're dead"

God forbid anyone ever makes a mistake with their child's upbringing."

Jamie Bulger's mum let go of his hand in a crowded butcher's while she paid. That was a split second mistake. The McCann's had several days to consider their parenting. They left their children alone every evening of the holiday, with an unlocked door onto a public street. In a BBC documentary Kate says that fateful morning Madeleine asked "mummy, why did you leave me and Sean crying last night?" yet both parents decided to do it again that evening.

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By *illan-KillashMan 35 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"

Reading the MM threads it always reads like "you left yours kids alone, serves you right they're dead"

God forbid anyone ever makes a mistake with their child's upbringing.

Jamie Bulger's mum let go of his hand in a crowded butcher's while she paid. That was a split second mistake. The McCann's had several days to consider their parenting. They left their children alone every evening of the holiday, with an unlocked door onto a public street. In a BBC documentary Kate says that fateful morning Madeleine asked "mummy, why did you leave me and Sean crying last night?" yet both parents decided to do it again that evening. "

If I fucked up like that I'd probably spend the rest of my life and every penny I had trying to put it right.

Knowing in my heart of hearts I was responsible and I couldn't make amends would break me. But I'd never stop.

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago


"Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper..

Amazing how you’re never banned from here

For stating the obvious ?

I realise it’s probably been a bad few days for you with the elections so I’ll not push the point

Or giving an opinion. Why not silence anyone who does not follow the party line"

They did that with the news reporter and got someone else. Gagging I thought was for sex not used by top officials to silence the truth.

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago

So many children go missing never found or end up in the mortuary. The money spent on any missing child should be the same period.

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago

This is getting boring now thousands of kids go missing each and every year and the media don't make these cases a frontline headline.also years ago a poor family lost their young son Ben on a greek island and because the family did not have the money like the McCann's the investigation was soob forgotten about.what the mccanns did was wrong leaving three young children unattended.the press and media should concentrate on familys who deserve and need the publicity to try to find their missing child??

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago


"

Reading the MM threads it always reads like "you left yours kids alone, serves you right they're dead"

God forbid anyone ever makes a mistake with their child's upbringing.

Jamie Bulger's mum let go of his hand in a crowded butcher's while she paid. That was a split second mistake. The McCann's had several days to consider their parenting. They left their children alone every evening of the holiday, with an unlocked door onto a public street. In a BBC documentary Kate says that fateful morning Madeleine asked "mummy, why did you leave me and Sean crying last night?" yet both parents decided to do it again that evening. "

disgusting behaviour from both parents

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By *illan-KillashMan 35 weeks ago

London/Sussex/Surrey/Berks/Hants


"This is getting boring now thousands of kids go missing each and every year and the media don't make these cases a frontline headline.also years ago a poor family lost their young son Ben on a greek island and because the family did not have the money like the McCann's the investigation was soob forgotten about.what the mccanns did was wrong leaving three young children unattended.the press and media should concentrate on familys who deserve and need the publicity to try to find their missing child??"

Are you suggesting only parents who are poor should be helped and the McCann's don't deserve help because they're well off?

That's kinda how you post reads.....

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man 35 weeks ago

BRIDPORT

There comes a point in investigations when no further meaningful progress is being made, when all reasonable measures have been pursued, at that point I think it is appropriate to leave the case on file and open but not actively pursued, not tying up resources.

Many such cases are subsequently solved years later when the person responsible is apprehended for another crime, or dna test that’s unrelated , that leads to either a confession or further evidence that can be linked.

I think that is a realistic and sensible approach.

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By *allySlinkyWoman 35 weeks ago

Leeds

But in Madeleine's case there is still the Christian Brueckner lead to follow.

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By *icecouple561Couple 35 weeks ago
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East Sussex

As recently as last September UK police were following leads in the Ben Needham case. He disappeared at 21 months old, 31 years ago, while playing alone in his grandparents garden, close to a building site.

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago


"As recently as last September UK police were following leads in the Ben Needham case. He disappeared at 21 months old, 31 years ago, while playing alone in his grandparents garden, close to a building site. "
yes but is it constantly splashed all over the newspapers like the mccanns.they lost their child through no fault of their own .the McCann's list Madeline due to negligence!!!

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago


"This is getting boring now thousands of kids go missing each and every year and the media don't make these cases a frontline headline.also years ago a poor family lost their young son Ben on a greek island and because the family did not have the money like the McCann's the investigation was soob forgotten about.what the mccanns did was wrong leaving three young children unattended.the press and media should concentrate on familys who deserve and need the publicity to try to find their missing child??

Are you suggesting only parents who are poor should be helped and the McCann's don't deserve help because they're well off?

That's kinda how you post reads..... "

yes basically.those who deserve help are those who weren't negligent and not leaving young children unattended so they could get pissed.thet should have been charged years ago with child neglect and been investigated by social services!!!

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By *allySlinkyWoman 35 weeks ago

Leeds


"they lost their child through no fault of their own .the McCann's list Madeline due to negligence!!!"

You could argue Ben was lost to negligence too. His grandparents were looking after him while his mum was at work and they didn't notice him wandering off.

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago

If it was my child missing I would want the same as the McCanns

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By *icecouple561Couple 35 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"As recently as last September UK police were following leads in the Ben Needham case. He disappeared at 21 months old, 31 years ago, while playing alone in his grandparents garden, close to a building site. yes but is it constantly splashed all over the newspapers like the mccanns.they lost their child through no fault of their own .the McCann's list Madeline due to negligence!!!"

Personally I think leaving a child under two alone in a garden near a building site isn't terribly sensible but you may disagree.

My opinion is that however a child disappears, whoever is to blame or bears any responsibility is irrelevant. I agree that equal effort should be put in to every case though

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By (user no longer on site) 35 weeks ago


"Reports that the investigation now tops £13 million with another £192,000 just allocated.

A very sad case. But what is happening here? It's all over the news

Is it the money that bothers you tom ?

The money is staggering Granny.. what price Justice ?

But after all these years time to let go..

Easy to say when it is not your child.

Easier if they'd looked after their children properly. Appalling parenting.

Does losing a child not seem an unduly excessive "punishment" for not looking after their children properly?

You make it sound as if they were clumsy, they were irresponsible with their children's lives & 99% sure it cost one of them their life.

Pretty excessive price paid by Madelaine I'd say.

Hindsight demonstrates they made a mistake, an error of judgement.

History shows the cost of that mistake.

It's a pretty awful cost.

Reading the MM threads it always reads like "you left yours kids alone, serves you right they're dead"

God forbid anyone ever makes a mistake with their child's upbringing."

it was more tgan one mistake.they constantly left madeline unattended because they said she was "difficult".these were doctors who are supposedly professionals and should no better.social services have hounded families for a lot less then whst these two sorry excuses for parents did!!!

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By *icecouple561Couple 35 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"This is getting boring now thousands of kids go missing each and every year and the media don't make these cases a frontline headline.also years ago a poor family lost their young son Ben on a greek island and because the family did not have the money like the McCann's the investigation was soob forgotten about.what the mccanns did was wrong leaving three young children unattended.the press and media should concentrate on familys who deserve and need the publicity to try to find their missing child??

Are you suggesting only parents who are poor should be helped and the McCann's don't deserve help because they're well off?

That's kinda how you post reads..... yes basically.those who deserve help are those who weren't negligent and not leaving young children unattended so they could get pissed.thet should have been charged years ago with child neglect and been investigated by social services!!!"

It's the child who deserves the help.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman 35 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders


"Maybe splash more cash on Jack the Ripper.. "

Aaron Kosminski was positively identified as Jack the Ripper, the man who identified him refused to give testimony, the belief being that they were both Jewish and he didn't want the man's death on his head....

You can have that for free. You're welcome....

You c

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By *nfucktuationMan 35 weeks ago

London

Its a fucking disgrace

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By *allySlinkyWoman 35 weeks ago

Leeds


"Its a fucking disgrace "

Coul you elaborate please

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By *ealMissShadyWoman 35 weeks ago

St Albans/ Welsh Borders

And still while the rights/wrongs and wherefors are being argued over. The point is lost. A little girl went missing and not been found.

The parents have been punished enough, it must be torture not knowing.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Of course they should follow every lead until there are no more and react to new information. That should be the same with all missing or murdered persons. If there are no leads then it should be periodically if new evidence comes to light or technology and science improvements make old evidence more valuable. The media circus suggests that not all are treated the same.

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"Of course they should follow every lead until there are no more and react to new information. That should be the same with all missing or murdered persons. If there are no leads then it should be periodically if new evidence comes to light or technology and science improvements make old evidence more valuable. The media circus suggests that not all are treated the same. "

That’s not what you said originally - you suggested that to continue with the investigation was a waste of money

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Of course they should follow every lead until there are no more and react to new information. That should be the same with all missing or murdered persons. If there are no leads then it should be periodically if new evidence comes to light or technology and science improvements make old evidence more valuable. The media circus suggests that not all are treated the same.

That’s not what you said originally - you suggested that to continue with the investigation was a waste of money "

Sadly Tom thinks it is.. he fears the worst

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"Of course they should follow every lead until there are no more and react to new information. That should be the same with all missing or murdered persons. If there are no leads then it should be periodically if new evidence comes to light or technology and science improvements make old evidence more valuable. The media circus suggests that not all are treated the same.

That’s not what you said originally - you suggested that to continue with the investigation was a waste of money

Sadly Tom thinks it is.. he fears the worst "

Make up your mind - you want the investigation to follow every lead yet you want it to end

Which is it?

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By *icecouple561Couple 35 weeks ago
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East Sussex

Treat every case of missing children the same until or unless evidence comes to light that means you should stop

Don't discriminate on the basis that you think it's the parents fault, you don't like them or their lifestyle or you think it costs too much.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford

Is there a league table of resources spent on individual cases ?

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"Is there a league table of resources spent on individual cases ? "

That would help enormously wouldn’t it?

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By *icecouple561Couple 35 weeks ago
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East Sussex


"Is there a league table of resources spent on individual cases ? "

I guess although I don't know that resources are allocated according to certain criteria such as evidence, new leads etc.

I understand the home secretary approved the most recent funding for this case

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford

It sounds like every time the Home Office grants new funds then it is extra to the Chief of Polices Budget rather than finding funds from within it. Now if you throw enough extra funds every year then presumably that will generate new leads. It's the quality of those leads that count

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"It sounds like every time the Home Office grants new funds then it is extra to the Chief of Polices Budget rather than finding funds from within it. Now if you throw enough extra funds every year then presumably that will generate new leads. It's the quality of those leads that count"

How do you know they are new funds?

You’re not accusing our government of being fiscally irresponsible are you?

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford

They are new funds approved by the Home Office. It's all over the news.. why it wasn't the Foreign Office, God only knows.. presumably because the Chief of Police answers to the Home Secretary

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By *ark73XXXMan 35 weeks ago

North Staffs/South Cheshire


"They are new funds approved by the Home Office. It's all over the news.. why it wasn't the Foreign Office, God only knows.. presumably because the Chief of Police answers to the Home Secretary "

The chief of police? Who is that?

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By *ools and the brainCouple 35 weeks ago

couple, us we him her.

Unless you are actually a serving officer involved in the actual investigation, everything else including documentaries and social media....

Is just guesswork.

I'm sure there actually is far more going on than meet's the eye, I personally think it's more to do child trafficking and a criminal network.

Let's face it the amount of investment and hours they would have gotten indisputable evidence against the parents by now,they maybe smart but not that smart.

I hope we eventually find out the truth but I very much doubt it.

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Unless you are actually a serving officer involved in the actual investigation, everything else including documentaries and social media....

Is just guesswork.

I'm sure there actually is far more going on than meet's the eye, I personally think it's more to do child trafficking and a criminal network.

Let's face it the amount of investment and hours they would have gotten indisputable evidence against the parents by now,they maybe smart but not that smart.

I hope we eventually find out the truth but I very much doubt it."

Hear Hear ,!

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By *ssex_tom OP   Man 35 weeks ago

Chelmsford


"Unless you are actually a serving officer involved in the actual investigation, everything else including documentaries and social media....

Is just guesswork.

I'm sure there actually is far more going on than meet's the eye, I personally think it's more to do child trafficking and a criminal network.

Let's face it the amount of investment and hours they would have gotten indisputable evidence against the parents by now,they maybe smart but not that smart.

I hope we eventually find out the truth but I very much doubt it."

Agreed! There is much my ore to this than meets the eye

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