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By *hagTonight OP Man 38 weeks ago
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I read an article sbout it and there is a major change to the nhs subscription costs from today. I was as surprised as the chemists who described it as a dark day and a tax on the working poor.
However, the rescriptions are free in wales, scotland and northern ireland.
The price per item has risen by 2.6 per cent, from £9.65 to £9.90 today.
It means that patients who will now have to pay nearly £10 for each item on their prescription, the change will hit those on low income.
What is your view about it and why do you think that they need to change it whilst it is free in the other countries, are they more interesting in profit? I agree in the article that it should be scrapped and that it is totally unacceptable.
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I've had free prescriptions since I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism and issued with a medical exemption certificate. I never understood why all my prescriptions were free when it would have been quite easy to just give me levothyroxine free and charge me for any other medicine.
Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one  ) |
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )"
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money. |
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money. "
That's the one! Thank you.
That's a lot to find in one go if you're on a limited budget isn't it. |
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money. "
Can anyone get this? I have 2 items a month. That would be much cheaper! Never heard of it |
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"Don’t those on low income get them free? "
correct me if im wrong, been a while since i looked at this, but i think if you get universal credit you get a free NHS card which means free prescriptions |
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money.
Can anyone get this? I have 2 items a month. That would be much cheaper! Never heard of it "
Yes anyone can get one. I believe that you can buy a three and six month one too |
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"Don’t those on low income get them free? "
Yes they do, as do those with certain medical conditions such as cancer, underactive thyroid, epilepsy etc. I usually pay for just one prescription charge a month but I opted for a prepayment certificate last month which I'm so glad I did because in the last month I've had 5 prescriptions which would have cost me £50 if I'd paid individually, the 3 month one I did cost me a little over £30... |
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money.
Can anyone get this? I have 2 items a month. That would be much cheaper! Never heard of it
Yes anyone can get one. I believe that you can buy a three and six month one too "
3 month or 12 month |
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Can anyone get this? I have 2 items a month. That would be much cheaper! Never heard of it
Yes there is a really easy online
form to fill in and you pay by debit card "
Brilliant. Thanks for that info! x |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?"
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?"
Some medicines such as dual medicine hrt incur two charges... but they've introduced an hrt prepayment certificate to help with the cost |
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By *ltrMan 38 weeks ago
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Can anyone get this? I have 2 items a month. That would be much cheaper! Never heard of it
Yes there is a really easy online
Set up direct debit I have 4 items a month saved me a fortune
form to fill in and you pay by debit card "
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By *9alMan 38 weeks ago
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"Don’t those on low income get them free? "
most of us are caught in the middle so have to pay but it dose make you reluctant to be put on extra medications. I now live in Wales & enjoy free prescriptions |
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"Don’t those on low income get them free?
Yes they do, as do those with certain medical conditions such as cancer, underactive thyroid, epilepsy etc. I usually pay for just one prescription charge a month but I opted for a prepayment certificate last month which I'm so glad I did because in the last month I've had 5 prescriptions which would have cost me £50 if I'd paid individually, the 3 month one I did cost me a little over £30... "
Wow that’s a big saving x |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication "
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication 
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100. |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100."
That's a big amount out of your budget. I know that some insulin dependent people in USA go without because they just can't afford it |
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"Don’t those on low income get them free?
Yes they do, as do those with certain medical conditions such as cancer, underactive thyroid, epilepsy etc. I usually pay for just one prescription charge a month but I opted for a prepayment certificate last month which I'm so glad I did because in the last month I've had 5 prescriptions which would have cost me £50 if I'd paid individually, the 3 month one I did cost me a little over £30...
Wow that’s a big saving x"
Yeah I essentially got 2 x prescriptions free lol ... |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100.
That's a big amount out of your budget. I know that some insulin dependent people in USA go without because they just can't afford it"
It is. It's sad that this is happening, people are suffering when there's medication to prevent it.
I avoid going to the doctor like the plague unless I'm very very sick. It's €60 to see a doctor and then you have the worry of what the medication is going to cost. |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication "
the pharmacist is supposed to advise you if the item is cheaper than the prescription charge |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100.
That's a big amount out of your budget. I know that some insulin dependent people in USA go without because they just can't afford it
It is. It's sad that this is happening, people are suffering when there's medication to prevent it.
I avoid going to the doctor like the plague unless I'm very very sick. It's €60 to see a doctor and then you have the worry of what the medication is going to cost."
Whereas here the NHS is free at the point of delivery but it's nigh on impossible to see a GP in many areas including ours. |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
the pharmacist is supposed to advise you if the item is cheaper than the prescription charge "
In my experience the Dr will usually say that it'll be cheaper to buy it over the counter. |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
the pharmacist is supposed to advise you if the item is cheaper than the prescription charge "
A good pharmacy will... I'm no longer in community pharmacy but I would always advise if it was cheaper without prescription |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100.
That's a big amount out of your budget. I know that some insulin dependent people in USA go without because they just can't afford it
It is. It's sad that this is happening, people are suffering when there's medication to prevent it.
I avoid going to the doctor like the plague unless I'm very very sick. It's €60 to see a doctor and then you have the worry of what the medication is going to cost.
Whereas here the NHS is free at the point of delivery but it's nigh on impossible to see a GP in many areas including ours. "
It's not much better here at the minute so people end up going to A&E, which are already bursting at the seems . It's madness.
I get my prescription on a 6 month repeat but I have to pay €30 every 6 months for them to press a button and send a new one out.
Between mine and my husband's it's costing over €100 a month and then you hope like fuck that no-one gets sick |
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money. "
I remember using the PPC when I was very ill a few years ago, and on multiple prescriptions. Month one I saved the cost of the PPC.
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money.
Can anyone get this? I have 2 items a month. That would be much cheaper! Never heard of it "
Ypu can pay it over 10 months, so 11 pound a month, I do it.I used to get regular meds but now it's only now and again I do but when I do it's normally a lot so a large cost. I can afford to just leave it running thankfully for the times I may need it.
It's easy to apply online
Tinder x |
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money.
Can anyone get this? I have 2 items a month. That would be much cheaper! Never heard of it
Ypu can pay it over 10 months, so 11 pound a month, I do it.I used to get regular meds but now it's only now and again I do but when I do it's normally a lot so a large cost. I can afford to just leave it running thankfully for the times I may need it.
It's easy to apply online
Tinder x "
Oh that’s even better to pay monthly. Thanks lovely I shall look into it today x |
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money.
Can anyone get this? I have 2 items a month. That would be much cheaper! Never heard of it "
I had been getting my prescriptions with 3 items a month dispensed at Loyds Pharmacy for several years and nobody mentioned this to me, Loyds were shut one day and I needed it that day so I went to Boots instead, the woman there served me and the first thing she said was ‘ do you get these every month, it would be so much cheaper if you had a pre payment certificate’.
I looked at her blankly and she explained what it was, went on the computer, filled it out for me there and then and I paid for it over the counter.
Been renewing it every year since, saved a shit load, covers you for any prescription including any issued by the dentist say for antibiotics. |
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money.
Can anyone get this? I have 2 items a month. That would be much cheaper! Never heard of it
I had been getting my prescriptions with 3 items a month dispensed at Loyds Pharmacy for several years and nobody mentioned this to me, Loyds were shut one day and I needed it that day so I went to Boots instead, the woman there served me and the first thing she said was ‘ do you get these every month, it would be so much cheaper if you had a pre payment certificate’.
I looked at her blankly and she explained what it was, went on the computer, filled it out for me there and then and I paid for it over the counter.
Been renewing it every year since, saved a shit load, covers you for any prescription including any issued by the dentist say for antibiotics. "
Yeah I go to a Lloyds one and they’ve never mentioned it |
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"Big pharma.. Big profit
Profit profit profit on the sick.
How low can it get for us
Yet we pay£90k for an MP
Go vote "
We had to go private once with my daughter and what they prescribed was £80 a month for one prescription. We fought to get it on the nhs but it wasn’t easy. So believe me it’s a lot cheaper with the NHS! |
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The cost goes up every April, so it's no great surprise. I get a repeat prescription every 3 months and rarely need anything else so I just pay. It's strange how people don't know about the yearly charge, as there's a big poster about it in my local pharmacy on the till. It's good it'll save people on here money though 
As nice as it would be to get everything free, I don't mind paying. I already pay for my glasses and teeth, so it's no real difference. |
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"The cost goes up every April, so it's no great surprise. I get a repeat prescription every 3 months and rarely need anything else so I just pay. It's strange how people don't know about the yearly charge, as there's a big poster about it in my local pharmacy on the till. It's good it'll save people on here money though
As nice as it would be to get everything free, I don't mind paying. I already pay for my glasses and teeth, so it's no real difference. "
People seem to want everything free these days! |
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"Big pharma.. Big profit
Profit profit profit on the sick.
How low can it get for us
Yet we pay£90k for an MP
Go vote
We had to go private once with my daughter and what they prescribed was £80 a month for one prescription. We fought to get it on the nhs but it wasn’t easy. So believe me it’s a lot cheaper with the NHS!"
As soon as my girls need private prescriptions I'll be doing it for them, one is asthmatic so not free (which baffles me) and the other regularly needs something or other for some reason.
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100.
That's a big amount out of your budget. I know that some insulin dependent people in USA go without because they just can't afford it
It is. It's sad that this is happening, people are suffering when there's medication to prevent it.
I avoid going to the doctor like the plague unless I'm very very sick. It's €60 to see a doctor and then you have the worry of what the medication is going to cost.
Whereas here the NHS is free at the point of delivery but it's nigh on impossible to see a GP in many areas including ours.
It's not much better here at the minute so people end up going to A&E, which are already bursting at the seems . It's madness.
I get my prescription on a 6 month repeat but I have to pay €30 every 6 months for them to press a button and send a new one out.
Between mine and my husband's it's costing over €100 a month and then you hope like fuck that no-one gets sick"
Similar to Australia (not that I live there now). I think my parents' GP charges about $150, specialists start at multiples of that, and you pay most of the cost of the medication whether that's 50c or $50k. |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100.
That's a big amount out of your budget. I know that some insulin dependent people in USA go without because they just can't afford it
It is. It's sad that this is happening, people are suffering when there's medication to prevent it.
I avoid going to the doctor like the plague unless I'm very very sick. It's €60 to see a doctor and then you have the worry of what the medication is going to cost.
Whereas here the NHS is free at the point of delivery but it's nigh on impossible to see a GP in many areas including ours.
It's not much better here at the minute so people end up going to A&E, which are already bursting at the seems . It's madness.
I get my prescription on a 6 month repeat but I have to pay €30 every 6 months for them to press a button and send a new one out.
Between mine and my husband's it's costing over €100 a month and then you hope like fuck that no-one gets sick
Similar to Australia (not that I live there now). I think my parents' GP charges about $150, specialists start at multiples of that, and you pay most of the cost of the medication whether that's 50c or $50k."
Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable? |
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Some of these medications are very expensive and it costs the NHS hundred of millions to supply them.
Yes prescriptions are expensive but the money has to come from somewhere.
Means testing is really the only option.
Just be thankful we don't live in America where depending on insurance you may have to pay full price for Meds.
I take about 12 different tablets a day to stay alive if I had to pay full price I'd have been dead years ago. |
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Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?"
My daughter lives in USA. Her medical insurance is $1400 per month but her employer pays half. |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100.
That's a big amount out of your budget. I know that some insulin dependent people in USA go without because they just can't afford it
It is. It's sad that this is happening, people are suffering when there's medication to prevent it.
I avoid going to the doctor like the plague unless I'm very very sick. It's €60 to see a doctor and then you have the worry of what the medication is going to cost.
Whereas here the NHS is free at the point of delivery but it's nigh on impossible to see a GP in many areas including ours.
It's not much better here at the minute so people end up going to A&E, which are already bursting at the seems . It's madness.
I get my prescription on a 6 month repeat but I have to pay €30 every 6 months for them to press a button and send a new one out.
Between mine and my husband's it's costing over €100 a month and then you hope like fuck that no-one gets sick
Similar to Australia (not that I live there now). I think my parents' GP charges about $150, specialists start at multiples of that, and you pay most of the cost of the medication whether that's 50c or $50k.
Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?"
Insurance doesn't cover prescriptions or outpatient appointments. And you pay tax penalties if you don't have it (on top of the tax you pay towards the healthcare system). The amounts I'm quoting for seeing the doctor are after the (miserly) government contribution.
I don't know what happens with the extremely expensive medication, but for regular medication you pay it yourself until you meet a certain threshold, then the proportion you pay goes down dramatically (the initial proportion is quite high).
Some people go without healthcare. |
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"Some of these medications are very expensive and it costs the NHS hundred of millions to supply them.
Yes prescriptions are expensive but the money has to come from somewhere.
Means testing is really the only option.
Just be thankful we don't live in America where depending on insurance you may have to pay full price for Meds.
I take about 12 different tablets a day to stay alive if I had to pay full price I'd have been dead years ago."
It goes without saying but before people start jumping up and down, the costs should reflect income but even those working with a good wage are struggling so the elderly and vulnerable should always get it free and people on benefits.
But I think it needs looking at in far greater detail perhaps if GPs started treating people rather than dishing out medication willy nilly give more dietary and physical advice for avoidable conditions. |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100.
That's a big amount out of your budget. I know that some insulin dependent people in USA go without because they just can't afford it
It is. It's sad that this is happening, people are suffering when there's medication to prevent it.
I avoid going to the doctor like the plague unless I'm very very sick. It's €60 to see a doctor and then you have the worry of what the medication is going to cost.
Whereas here the NHS is free at the point of delivery but it's nigh on impossible to see a GP in many areas including ours.
It's not much better here at the minute so people end up going to A&E, which are already bursting at the seems . It's madness.
I get my prescription on a 6 month repeat but I have to pay €30 every 6 months for them to press a button and send a new one out.
Between mine and my husband's it's costing over €100 a month and then you hope like fuck that no-one gets sick
Similar to Australia (not that I live there now). I think my parents' GP charges about $150, specialists start at multiples of that, and you pay most of the cost of the medication whether that's 50c or $50k.
Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?
Insurance doesn't cover prescriptions or outpatient appointments. And you pay tax penalties if you don't have it (on top of the tax you pay towards the healthcare system). The amounts I'm quoting for seeing the doctor are after the (miserly) government contribution.
I don't know what happens with the extremely expensive medication, but for regular medication you pay it yourself until you meet a certain threshold, then the proportion you pay goes down dramatically (the initial proportion is quite high).
Some people go without healthcare."
I don’t think many of the people who complain about the parts of the NHS that have to be contributed too directly, have any comprehension of the costs incurred in other countries. |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100.
That's a big amount out of your budget. I know that some insulin dependent people in USA go without because they just can't afford it
It is. It's sad that this is happening, people are suffering when there's medication to prevent it.
I avoid going to the doctor like the plague unless I'm very very sick. It's €60 to see a doctor and then you have the worry of what the medication is going to cost.
Whereas here the NHS is free at the point of delivery but it's nigh on impossible to see a GP in many areas including ours.
It's not much better here at the minute so people end up going to A&E, which are already bursting at the seems . It's madness.
I get my prescription on a 6 month repeat but I have to pay €30 every 6 months for them to press a button and send a new one out.
Between mine and my husband's it's costing over €100 a month and then you hope like fuck that no-one gets sick
Similar to Australia (not that I live there now). I think my parents' GP charges about $150, specialists start at multiples of that, and you pay most of the cost of the medication whether that's 50c or $50k.
Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?
Insurance doesn't cover prescriptions or outpatient appointments. And you pay tax penalties if you don't have it (on top of the tax you pay towards the healthcare system). The amounts I'm quoting for seeing the doctor are after the (miserly) government contribution.
I don't know what happens with the extremely expensive medication, but for regular medication you pay it yourself until you meet a certain threshold, then the proportion you pay goes down dramatically (the initial proportion is quite high).
Some people go without healthcare.
I don’t think many of the people who complain about the parts of the NHS that have to be contributed too directly, have any comprehension of the costs incurred in other countries. "
No. And it's cheap compared to the United States. (I chipped in because I've always heard Australia's system be described as "like Ireland")
I think the NHS is precious and the concept of free at point of use should be preserved to any degree possible.
That and British budgets - we're all getting poorer - won't stretch to the kind of money that even partially unregulated healthcare entails. |
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Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?
My daughter lives in USA. Her medical insurance is $1400 per month but her employer pays half. "
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Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?
My daughter lives in USA. Her medical insurance is $1400 per month but her employer pays half.
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Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?
My daughter lives in USA. Her medical insurance is $1400 per month but her employer pays half.
That will be the UK eventually on the path the tories have set
Yes but even then some insurance doesn't cover medication."
Where will businesses find the kind of money to subsidise medical insurance?
Because it won't be as cheap as current British medical insurance, if it's all encompassing. The cost will shoot up. |
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Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?
My daughter lives in USA. Her medical insurance is $1400 per month but her employer pays half.
That will be the UK eventually on the path the tories have set
Yes but even then some insurance doesn't cover medication.
Where will businesses find the kind of money to subsidise medical insurance?
Because it won't be as cheap as current British medical insurance, if it's all encompassing. The cost will shoot up."
They will charge more for their services. It's you and I will pay in the long run |
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Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?
My daughter lives in USA. Her medical insurance is $1400 per month but her employer pays half.
That will be the UK eventually on the path the tories have set
Yes but even then some insurance doesn't cover medication.
Where will businesses find the kind of money to subsidise medical insurance?
Because it won't be as cheap as current British medical insurance, if it's all encompassing. The cost will shoot up.
They will charge more for their services. It's you and I will pay in the long run "
I'm sure many would simply fold, first. |
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Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?
My daughter lives in USA. Her medical insurance is $1400 per month but her employer pays half.
That will be the UK eventually on the path the tories have set
Yes but even then some insurance doesn't cover medication.
Where will businesses find the kind of money to subsidise medical insurance?
Because it won't be as cheap as current British medical insurance, if it's all encompassing. The cost will shoot up."
Well exactly maybe a solution is to nationalise medication production in this country with production and distribution controlled by the government/NHS and the prices regulated rather than lining the pockets of big pharma and the private companies who have been coining it in for decades. |
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People on benefits and the elderly get them for free and so do some medical conditions.
However the system is flawed in that the only medical conditions that get them free are diabetics, epilepsy, thyroid problems, cancer or pregnant.
People with other conditions such as heart disease, asthma and high blood pressure, all of which can be life threatening if not treated, do not get them free. I don't understand the logic in the system why some conditions and not others? |
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Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?
My daughter lives in USA. Her medical insurance is $1400 per month but her employer pays half.
That will be the UK eventually on the path the tories have set
Yes but even then some insurance doesn't cover medication.
Where will businesses find the kind of money to subsidise medical insurance?
Because it won't be as cheap as current British medical insurance, if it's all encompassing. The cost will shoot up.
Well exactly maybe a solution is to nationalise medication production in this country with production and distribution controlled by the government/NHS and the prices regulated rather than lining the pockets of big pharma and the private companies who have been coining it in for decades."
You are aware that countries already negotiate prices with pharmaceutical companies, and patents exist where we can't simply take companies' intellectual property?
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By *ltrMan 38 weeks ago
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Can anyone get this? I have 2 items a month. That would be much cheaper! Never heard of it
Yes there is a really easy online
Set up direct debit I have 4 items a month saved me a fortune
form to fill in and you pay by debit card "
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Not really thought about prescription charges, the only incidence I had with the NHSBSA, was them charging me £50 for each prescription raising to £100 (I think), for each if not paid within a month or so. I'd forgotten to renew my yearly prepayment due to simple life stuff.
They had emailed a couple of months in advance but that was all, there was no warning it had in fact expired or that I'd get charges if continued using. Nothing that I was actively using it or would incur charges. No warning for using it on the first attempt, no 'computer says no' your pre-payment has expired.
The letter I got a week or two later with 3x £50 fines was the astonishing bit. When I challenged it (probably with a couple of the above points), their reply was it would be passed to debt collectors if not paid in full.
When that was challenged, it was apparently a training error... but it was far too organised, if not a typical letter for not to be standard. Eventually agreed to just pay prescription costs but lesson learned and would advise anyone to keep a check on their renewal date if they have one.
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"People on benefits and the elderly get them for free and so do some medical conditions.
However the system is flawed in that the only medical conditions that get them free are diabetics, epilepsy, thyroid problems, cancer or pregnant.
People with other conditions such as heart disease, asthma and high blood pressure, all of which can be life threatening if not treated, do not get them free. I don't understand the logic in the system why some conditions and not others? "
They are things that were life threatening but treatable with medication when the NHS was in its infancy. The other stuff you mention basically had no treatment medicine-wise. The qualifying list of exempt conditions hasn't changed.
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By *ooBulMan 38 weeks ago
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Yes you have all options to pay.
I prefer to get mine for the year. If you have to have medication quite regularly it makes sense to have one! I get mine for the year...
You don't get a card now - you get sent an email & flash that at them if they even ask for it? Mine didn't but perhaps they check in quieter moments? Just ticked the box on the back.
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"I'd forgotten to renew my yearly prepayment due to simple life stuff.
They had emailed a couple of months in advance but that was all"
If you look at it from their perspective, you were fraudulently claiming free prescriptions as you didn't have a current prepayment certificate. |
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !"
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
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By *iss.ddWoman 38 weeks ago
Leeds + Newcastle |
I get free prescriptions due to medication / exemption but I'd happily pay for anything outside of that medication.
I've refused a script for paracetamol before when I'd rather just go buy a couple 39p packets as it's within my means to do so. |
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"Don’t those on low income get them free? "
Yes they do but if you don't qualify for any benefits at all because you earn slightly above the limit then you fall into what they call the poverty trap and any increase in costs drive them further into that trap |
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you "
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you "
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"The monthly pre payment prescription card can be a god send to people who need more than one prescription a month.
Mrs "
Yes both my daughters have one. We would be shelling out £50 each a month otherwise.
In defence of the NHS my daughter had severe eczema. Her dermatologist prescribed her a very expensive drug that she gets under her prepayment pass. Now for the first time in her life she is eczema free and it has changed her life. |
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By *ean counterMan 38 weeks ago
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you "
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer ! |
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I worked for a pharma company a few years ago. Although more people in England pay, when you look at exactly who pays, most peeps who need medicine or are on low income get it free. Typical political bullshit |
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer ! "
Yes. Your street is indicative of the entire situation. Also work from home does not exist and people cannot communicate without leaving their houses.
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer ! "
What's the issue with non English people? How do you know if someone is English or not?
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer !
What's the issue with non English people? How do you know if someone is English or not?
Swing - you'd better do one "
Bloody foreigners, coming over here, paying tens of thousands of pounds towards university tuition, starting businesses, claiming nothing... |
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer !
What's the issue with non English people? How do you know if someone is English or not?
Swing - you'd better do one
Bloody foreigners, coming over here, paying tens of thousands of pounds towards university tuition, starting businesses, claiming nothing..."
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer !
What's the issue with non English people? How do you know if someone is English or not?
Swing - you'd better do one
Bloody foreigners, coming over here, paying tens of thousands of pounds towards university tuition, starting businesses, claiming nothing...
Exactly! Bloody immigrants "
My university fees were well in excess of fifty grand.
Have I made it up to the British public yet, the terrible sin of being born in another country to... two non-British people?
Should I donate every penny I earn to the rage wank fund? Maybe I should set up an organisation that gives hard working British people a parade for doing what everybody else does without claiming a fucking martyr superiority complex |
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By *ean counterMan 38 weeks ago
Market Harborough/ Kettering |
"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer !
What's the issue with non English people? How do you know if someone is English or not?
Swing - you'd better do one "
How do I know they are not english? Maybe because when they talk I can't understand what they are saying! Bit of a clue there ! I have no issue with non english people in fact 70% of my work colleagues are non-english but they are contributing to the country, paying taxes etc as opposed to take take take. Don't worry, I'll continue to get up at 5am and get home at 7pm just to help out with the UK's tax burden ! |
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer !
What's the issue with non English people? How do you know if someone is English or not?
Swing - you'd better do one
How do I know they are not english? Maybe because when they talk I can't understand what they are saying! Bit of a clue there ! I have no issue with non english people in fact 70% of my work colleagues are non-english but they are contributing to the country, paying taxes etc as opposed to take take take. Don't worry, I'll continue to get up at 5am and get home at 7pm just to help out with the UK's tax burden ! "
How do you know these people aren't working if you're not home to watch them all the time?
You not understanding people sounds like a problem with you. Maybe you should work on that.
Would you like a participation trophy for your bog standard, expected contribution? I don't want one. I'm just getting on with it.
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer !
What's the issue with non English people? How do you know if someone is English or not?
Swing - you'd better do one
How do I know they are not english? Maybe because when they talk I can't understand what they are saying! Bit of a clue there ! I have no issue with non english people in fact 70% of my work colleagues are non-english but they are contributing to the country, paying taxes etc as opposed to take take take. Don't worry, I'll continue to get up at 5am and get home at 7pm just to help out with the UK's tax burden ! "
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I work from home. As I work for myself, I work when I fucking feel like it (and more than many would assume).
I hope my neighbours don't sit there assuming I'm doing nothing in here. Well, actually, I don't really care, they can enjoy their rage wanks too. |
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"I work from home. As I work for myself, I work when I fucking feel like it (and more than many would assume).
I hope my neighbours don't sit there assuming I'm doing nothing in here. Well, actually, I don't really care, they can enjoy their rage wanks too."
My favourite exchange on the foreigners coming over here, taking our jobs comment.....
He's not taking your job Dave, he's a neurosurgeon with 20 years experience and 3 PhD's.
you're unemployed with 4 CSE's and an STD....... |
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By *ean counterMan 38 weeks ago
Market Harborough/ Kettering |
"Don't worry, I'll continue to get up at 5am and get home at 7pm just to help out with the UK's tax burden !
So they could all go out for 9-5 jobs without you noticing !"
I work from home on various days of the week and no, they don't do 9 to 5 jobs! They do nothing, they don't have cars they rarely leave the house.I'm not blaming them, good luck to them it's just the stupid UK government handing out money to anyone whilst we (apparently) can't afford to maintain our roads, build new hospitals,build and maintain new schools or give our nurses and doctors a decent pay rise! |
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"Don’t those on low income get them free?
correct me if im wrong, been a while since i looked at this, but i think if you get universal credit you get a free NHS card which means free prescriptions"
Yes you do.its an exemption on the back of a prescription.theres 10 exemptions off the top of my head for them |
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer ! "
How do you know they aren't working? Do you watch them 24 hours a day.
Maybe they work while you sleep. |
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How do I know they are not english? Maybe because when they talk I can't understand what they are saying!
They’d be from Newcastle then.
Bit of a clue there ! I have no issue with non english people in fact 70% of my work colleagues are non-english but they are contributing to the country, paying taxes etc as opposed to take take take. Don't worry, I'll continue to get up at 5am and get home at 7pm just to help out with the UK's tax burden ! "
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By *ean counterMan 38 weeks ago
Market Harborough/ Kettering |
"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer !
How do you know they aren't working? Do you watch them 24 hours a day.
Maybe they work while you sleep. "
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"I work from home. As I work for myself, I work when I fucking feel like it (and more than many would assume).
I hope my neighbours don't sit there assuming I'm doing nothing in here. Well, actually, I don't really care, they can enjoy their rage wanks too.
My favourite exchange on the foreigners coming over here, taking our jobs comment.....
He's not taking your job Dave, he's a neurosurgeon with 20 years experience and 3 PhD's.
you're unemployed with 4 CSE's and an STD......."
CSE’s, you’re showing your age there |
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer !
What's the issue with non English people? How do you know if someone is English or not?
Swing - you'd better do one
How do I know they are not english? Maybe because when they talk I can't understand what they are saying! Bit of a clue there ! I have no issue with non english people in fact 70% of my work colleagues are non-english but they are contributing to the country, paying taxes etc as opposed to take take take. Don't worry, I'll continue to get up at 5am and get home at 7pm just to help out with the UK's tax burden !
How do you know these people aren't working if you're not home to watch them all the time?
You not understanding people sounds like a problem with you. Maybe you should work on that.
Would you like a participation trophy for your bog standard, expected contribution? I don't want one. I'm just getting on with it.
Yours, an immigrant with a funny accent."
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer !
What's the issue with non English people? How do you know if someone is English or not?
Swing - you'd better do one
How do I know they are not english? Maybe because when they talk I can't understand what they are saying! Bit of a clue there ! I have no issue with non english people in fact 70% of my work colleagues are non-english but they are contributing to the country, paying taxes etc as opposed to take take take. Don't worry, I'll continue to get up at 5am and get home at 7pm just to help out with the UK's tax burden !
How do you know these people aren't working if you're not home to watch them all the time?
You not understanding people sounds like a problem with you. Maybe you should work on that.
Would you like a participation trophy for your bog standard, expected contribution? I don't want one. I'm just getting on with it.
Yours, an immigrant with a funny accent.
Also they may not be allowed to work depending on their visa conditions. "
Yes. While I was here as a student I had to prove that I had enough money to support myself, and my restrictions on work were pretty severe.
Bloody immigrants, coming over here, taking the money they earned in foreign countries and spending it in the UK. How dare they boost the economy (except they didn't because someone thinks his neighbours don't work?) |
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I've had NHS Prescription Prepayment Certificates (PPC) for over 25 years and it's served me well for the costs and the convenience. I usually go for the 3-month certificate, delivered via email, add a reminder to my calendar when I need to renew. I usually only renew at the point when my medication is collected from the pharmacy. |
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"I work from home. As I work for myself, I work when I fucking feel like it (and more than many would assume).
I hope my neighbours don't sit there assuming I'm doing nothing in here. Well, actually, I don't really care, they can enjoy their rage wanks too.
My favourite exchange on the foreigners coming over here, taking our jobs comment.....
He's not taking your job Dave, he's a neurosurgeon with 20 years experience and 3 PhD's.
you're unemployed with 4 CSE's and an STD.......
CSE’s, you’re showing your age there "
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"I work from home. As I work for myself, I work when I fucking feel like it (and more than many would assume).
I hope my neighbours don't sit there assuming I'm doing nothing in here. Well, actually, I don't really care, they can enjoy their rage wanks too.
My favourite exchange on the foreigners coming over here, taking our jobs comment.....
He's not taking your job Dave, he's a neurosurgeon with 20 years experience and 3 PhD's.
you're unemployed with 4 CSE's and an STD.......
CSE’s, you’re showing your age there
Old codger...... "
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"I'd forgotten to renew my yearly prepayment due to simple life stuff.
They had emailed a couple of months in advance but that was all
If you look at it from their perspective, you were fraudulently claiming free prescriptions as you didn't have a current prepayment certificate. "
If you look at it again from their perspective, they are heavy handed in both fining and enforcement, when people are ill.
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A lot of my health care providers have been immigrants.
GPs, consultants, junior doctors, nurses, people who administered my anaesthesia, physiotherapists, psychiatrists, pharmacist.
I'm eternally grateful to them for working hard and paying taxes so I can now get my medication free.
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"Another tax to milk and raise.
The money to hand out to the boat people has to come from somewhere.
It’s no good people bleating that the magical “someone else” should pay. "
How much money do they actually get?
What percentage of taxes is it?
Is it higher or lower than subsidies to private railways or waterways, many of whom pay dividends to their shareholders after suckling at the public purse?
Is it higher or lower than the cost of "sleaze", which I guess is what you call corruption if you want to make it sound cute?
Is it higher or lower than the taxes that are paid by immigrants who were once boat people?
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"I'd forgotten to renew my yearly prepayment due to simple life stuff.
They had emailed a couple of months in advance but that was all
If you look at it from their perspective, you were fraudulently claiming free prescriptions as you didn't have a current prepayment certificate.
If you look at it again from their perspective, they are heavy handed in both fining and enforcement, when people are ill.
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"A lot of my health care providers have been immigrants.
GPs, consultants, junior doctors, nurses, people who administered my anaesthesia, physiotherapists, psychiatrists, pharmacist.
I'm eternally grateful to them for working hard and paying taxes so I can now get my medication free.
Cheers! "
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication
Wow that's brilliant!
If you don't qualify for a medical card here you pay the full cost of each medication
I get 2 inhalers a month and it's over €50 a time.
If I need something that costs €100 for example, I pay that full €100.
That's a big amount out of your budget. I know that some insulin dependent people in USA go without because they just can't afford it
It is. It's sad that this is happening, people are suffering when there's medication to prevent it.
I avoid going to the doctor like the plague unless I'm very very sick. It's €60 to see a doctor and then you have the worry of what the medication is going to cost.
Whereas here the NHS is free at the point of delivery but it's nigh on impossible to see a GP in many areas including ours.
It's not much better here at the minute so people end up going to A&E, which are already bursting at the seems . It's madness.
I get my prescription on a 6 month repeat but I have to pay €30 every 6 months for them to press a button and send a new one out.
Between mine and my husband's it's costing over €100 a month and then you hope like fuck that no-one gets sick
Similar to Australia (not that I live there now). I think my parents' GP charges about $150, specialists start at multiples of that, and you pay most of the cost of the medication whether that's 50c or $50k.
Do people shoulder the costs of that themselves or is there any form of insurance they can use that is affordable?
Insurance doesn't cover prescriptions or outpatient appointments. And you pay tax penalties if you don't have it (on top of the tax you pay towards the healthcare system). The amounts I'm quoting for seeing the doctor are after the (miserly) government contribution.
I don't know what happens with the extremely expensive medication, but for regular medication you pay it yourself until you meet a certain threshold, then the proportion you pay goes down dramatically (the initial proportion is quite high).
Some people go without healthcare.
I don’t think many of the people who complain about the parts of the NHS that have to be contributed too directly, have any comprehension of the costs incurred in other countries.
No. And it's cheap compared to the United States. (I chipped in because I've always heard Australia's system be described as "like Ireland")
I think the NHS is precious and the concept of free at point of use should be preserved to any degree possible.
That and British budgets - we're all getting poorer - won't stretch to the kind of money that even partially unregulated healthcare entails."
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication "
This and yes, it seems to be for everyone in the uk, unless they are exempt from it too |
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"Can I ask OP, is this for everyone in the UK?
Regardless of income you only pay less than £10 per medication?
Everyone in England unless they're exempt from charges. It's probably cheaper than paying the actual cost of the medication This and yes, it seems to be for everyone in the uk, unless they are exempt from it too "
Prescription charges are not universal across the UK, Shag. Scottish and Welsh NHS users have no need for pre payment certificates because they do not pay prescription charges. |
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My view is that it is wrong to have prescription charges and it adds insult to injury that they exist in England but nowhere else in the UK.
It is essentially a tax on being ill. Given that more and more people have limited access to sick pay, due to zero hour contracts etc then many people who in financial terms ought to be exempt end up having to pay, whilst simultaneously suffering blows to their income by being sick.
It's also counter-productive, as it puts more pressure on people who would want to work but struggle with illness. If they are going to be penalised for being ill, then many will be better off going on benefits as at least then they can get access to the medicine they need.
Imagine you are struggling with health conditions, trying to work on a zero hours contract. You don't get sick pay, so you are working through illness. You don't know if you can pay your rent, worrying about bills and food. Then you have to pay for your medicine too? Many people sacrifice their medicine as food and shelter come first. Their conditions worsen and then they can't work at all - The government then calls that 'sick note culture' and removes their benefits. |
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"The government need to keep on dragging in the taxes as theirs millions of lazy bastards, scroungers and immigrants that depend on it !!
Delightful and charming.
But true !
No. Made up bullshit to make you fear the wrong people. Most immigrants put in far more than they take out. Most "scroungers" are found to be genuine claimants, including the ones who die in destitution before their appeals are heard.
It's fun to have a nice wank about how you're better than other people, though. Really changes things. Nice little fantasy. Ooh baby. Feel that hatred.
Make sure you check to see that all your healthcare is provided by British people, and then come back and tell me how well that goes for you
Ok, you carry on living with your blinkers on. I live on a new housing development. In my road there's currently 12 homes with people living in them. How many go to work every day? 1 and that's me! How many of these homes are occupied by english people? 3 and one of them is me. One of the others is a single lady who is retired. The other is a lazy bastard who can't be bothered to work. The rest are eastern europeans who do absolutely nothing! That's 9 houses that are being paid for by the british tax payer !
How do you know they aren't working? Do you watch them 24 hours a day.
Maybe they work while you sleep. "
Or they work from home. Presenteeism is strong on fab I see
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It’s quite sad (and concerning) that Drs and Pharmacies aren’t informing patients with long term health conditions (and medication needs) of the options available to them.
Glad someone has benefited from this thread though |
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"It’s quite sad (and concerning) that Drs and Pharmacies aren’t informing patients with long term health conditions (and medication needs) of the options available to them.
Glad someone has benefited from this thread though "
It's probably long enough ago now that I can say this in public.
When I first came to the UK I went to the closest pharmacy to my halls of residence. I didn't pick up my thyroid medication for awhile because I did what most international students do - brought as much prescription medication with me as I could, wanting continuity of supply. I asked the pharmacist about something and referred to my thyroid condition in passing. He almost bodily threw me back to my GP practice to fill in the medical exemption form, apologised for charging me in the past, and refused to charge me before my certificate came in |
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"What gets me is why the hell does asthma not qualify as a lifelong condition when it is
I know some children grow out of it but not all of us do. "
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"Another tax to milk and raise.
The money to hand out to the boat people has to come from somewhere.
It’s no good people bleating that the magical “someone else” should pay.
How much money do they actually get?
What percentage of taxes is it?
Is it higher or lower than subsidies to private railways or waterways, many of whom pay dividends to their shareholders after suckling at the public purse?
Is it higher or lower than the cost of "sleaze", which I guess is what you call corruption if you want to make it sound cute?
Is it higher or lower than the taxes that are paid by immigrants who were once boat people?
Or is this a case where facts are irrelevant because it feels good to have a ready made enemy?"
Or perhaps i’m just making the point that all government spending has to be paid for by everyone to some extent. But i guess that has gone straight over your head. |
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"What gets me is why the hell does asthma not qualify as a lifelong condition when it is
I know some children grow out of it but not all of us do. "
I don't think the measure is in terms of longevity of conditions, or at least it wasn't when I first applied for my medical exemption certificate.
It was explained to me that it was issued for conditions whereby your body does not produce something essential to living.
That being said, breathing is pretty essential to living people vastly underplay the severity of asthma. My uncle died of an asthma attack so it was very worrying when I was diagnosed with it at school. That's not what I have a MEC for though.
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"Another tax to milk and raise.
The money to hand out to the boat people has to come from somewhere.
It’s no good people bleating that the magical “someone else” should pay.
How much money do they actually get?
What percentage of taxes is it?
Is it higher or lower than subsidies to private railways or waterways, many of whom pay dividends to their shareholders after suckling at the public purse?
Is it higher or lower than the cost of "sleaze", which I guess is what you call corruption if you want to make it sound cute?
Is it higher or lower than the taxes that are paid by immigrants who were once boat people?
Or is this a case where facts are irrelevant because it feels good to have a ready made enemy?
Or perhaps i’m just making the point that all government spending has to be paid for by everyone to some extent. But i guess that has gone straight over your head."
There are ways to say that without looking like you're promoting a pernicious agenda that leaves facts to one side.
But what would I know about effective communication? It is only my job. Seems you need an immigrant to get some jobs done properly. |
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By *orny PTMan 38 weeks ago
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Anyone who needs a lot of medication regularly is best off buying a season ticket (that's not the right phrase but I can't think of the correct one )
Prescription Prepayment Certificate.
I have one. It costs £114.50 per year so if you get over 11 items you are saving money. "
To save even more money. buy the quarterly one.
Daily meds (1 tablet daily for example) are generally 28 tablets per pack. This falls short 11 times a year.
So 3 x 28 is shorter than 3 x 28/29/30/31 (Days per month).
Once the 3x28 is up you still have several day left to reapply for the next batch of 28 tablets say.
This means you can have the fourth prescription, let the certificate lapse for three weeks and buy another PPC towards the end of that 4th batch. Timing is key here, write the dates on a calendar
This is perfectly legal and means I only pay for 3 PPCs per year instead of the four. At £30ish a time, savings like this, are really useful.
This is what happens when a month's medication is only 28 days long, we are being sold short: this method readdresses that balance.
We English are getting the short end of the prescription straw
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"The money to hand out to the boat people has to come from somewhere."
Complete and utter horse wank!
The decline in the NHS has absolutely nothing to do with “boat people”. It’s down to years of underinvestment in the NHS by successive, incompetent Tory governments. The “boat people” argument is classic Tory “create an enemy” smokescreen. It used to be single mothers, the the EU, now its migrants. |
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"The money to hand out to the boat people has to come from somewhere.
Complete and utter horse wank!
The decline in the NHS has absolutely nothing to do with “boat people”. It’s down to years of underinvestment in the NHS by successive, incompetent Tory governments. The “boat people” argument is classic Tory “create an enemy” smokescreen. It used to be single mothers, the the EU, now its migrants."
Indeed.
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"My view is that it is wrong to have prescription charges and it adds insult to injury that they exist in England but nowhere else in the UK.
It is essentially a tax on being ill. Given that more and more people have limited access to sick pay, due to zero hour contracts etc then many people who in financial terms ought to be exempt end up having to pay, whilst simultaneously suffering blows to their income by being sick.
It's also counter-productive, as it puts more pressure on people who would want to work but struggle with illness. If they are going to be penalised for being ill, then many will be better off going on benefits as at least then they can get access to the medicine they need.
Imagine you are struggling with health conditions, trying to work on a zero hours contract. You don't get sick pay, so you are working through illness. You don't know if you can pay your rent, worrying about bills and food. Then you have to pay for your medicine too? Many people sacrifice their medicine as food and shelter come first. Their conditions worsen and then they can't work at all - The government then calls that 'sick note culture' and removes their benefits."
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"What gets me is why the hell does asthma not qualify as a lifelong condition when it is
I know some children grow out of it but not all of us do. "
Have you looked at ordering from Europe? Lots of meds are available over the counter and you can order online from like the German version of Boots. Or stock up if you go on holiday. There was a post about this on Martin Lewis page on Facebook the other day. People said inhalers were only a few euros. |
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"What gets me is why the hell does asthma not qualify as a lifelong condition when it is
I know some children grow out of it but not all of us do. "
This! my aunt has chronic asthma, think it was referred to as brittle asthma? and on three or four different inhalers and steroids all of which she needs to function daily, oh and heart failure which needs meds due to long term use of said steroids over the years.....all of which she has to pay for if she didn't know about the pre payment it would cost her a fortune every month. She basically has a full carrier bag every pick up.
I mostly grew out of mine but if I get any respitory virus it flares it up and i need meds, my daughter is looking to not be growing out of hers so will need to pay once she leaves full time education and my mum developed adult asthma again she would have to pay for but as she now has type 2 diabetes she gets free.
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"Another tax to milk and raise.
The money to hand out to the boat people has to come from somewhere.
It’s no good people bleating that the magical “someone else” should pay.
How much money do they actually get?
What percentage of taxes is it?
Is it higher or lower than subsidies to private railways or waterways, many of whom pay dividends to their shareholders after suckling at the public purse?
Is it higher or lower than the cost of "sleaze", which I guess is what you call corruption if you want to make it sound cute?
Is it higher or lower than the taxes that are paid by immigrants who were once boat people?
Or is this a case where facts are irrelevant because it feels good to have a ready made enemy?
Or perhaps i’m just making the point that all government spending has to be paid for by everyone to some extent. But i guess that has gone straight over your head.
There are ways to say that without looking like you're promoting a pernicious agenda that leaves facts to one side.
But what would I know about effective communication? It is only my job. Seems you need an immigrant to get some jobs done properly."
It is a fact that the government does pay out money to house and feed so called boat people. Just an example of increasing costs. Pointing this out does not make it a pernicious agenda.
What you clearly can’t understand is that i make no point as to whether i agree with doing so or not. I am merely saying that increasing government spending all has to be paid out of taxation income which then obviously has to increase.
Perhaps to try and be any good as a communicator you first need to try and understand what people are actually communicating to you. |
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