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I’ve been approached by a centre for teenagers with special educational needs asking if they can spend time with mine. Just wondering if it’s something I should let them do or not. Would be a nightmare insurance wise I would think |
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I would imagine they would have insurances in place but how is your horse with people? Especially people who may be prone to making erratic noises or movements etc.
I would have imagined it would be better for them to approach a riding for the disabled provider as they work with very sound hordes and the handlers are perhaps a bit more trained to help give the students a better experience with the horses.
As for insurance I guess the school would have done to cover the students but I'd imagine you'd need to be covered in case of any injury caused by the horse or even to the horse.
You'd need to properly risk assess it as would the school.
Evie |
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Having said that I used to help out on the weekend at a riding school that was RDA as well and I got thrown in to lead a guy with cerebral palsy round on one of the horses and I was just a teenager.
Evie |
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By *bi HaiveMan 38 weeks ago
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"I was born with them, lived with them
I’ve been approached by a centre for teenagers with special educational needs asking if they can spend time with mine. Just wondering if it’s something I should let them do or not. Would be a nightmare insurance wise I would think"
You'd need your own third party insurance. It's not down to the centre to arrange.
Contact the BHS for advice. |
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"I would imagine they would have insurances in place but how is your horse with people? Especially people who may be prone to making erratic noises or movements etc.
I would have imagined it would be better for them to approach a riding for the disabled provider as they work with very sound hordes and the handlers are perhaps a bit more trained to help give the students a better experience with the horses.
As for insurance I guess the school would have done to cover the students but I'd imagine you'd need to be covered in case of any injury caused by the horse or even to the horse.
You'd need to properly risk assess it as would the school.
Evie"
This. Get advice from RDA and BHS if you think it's something you can safely facilitate but there are plenty of providers who have specialist knowledge and the right animals and insurance etc. |
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By *ony MannMan 37 weeks ago
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"I was born with them, lived with them
I’ve been approached by a centre for teenagers with special educational needs asking if they can spend time with mine. Just wondering if it’s something I should let them do or not. Would be a nightmare insurance wise I would think"
Make sure the children are insured bi the centre and they know it is their risk, get parental sign off and start with a stable door between them till you know how the children will react. |
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By (user no longer on site) 37 weeks ago
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I’d be making sure things were signed spelling out the risks and making sure your arse is covered and then as long as your horse is fine with kids being loud and poking the horse as was mentioned earlier then it’s a nice thing to do |
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"I work with animals and we have special needs kids that visit and frankly some of them are not well behaved and take no notice of their teachers."
Some children with additional needs are unable to follow instructions and may have poor/no impulse control. This is why only centres with appropriately trained and qualified staff and well better animals should be involved with such activities. If a centre cannot understand that children with additional needs might have needs that are very different to other children, then they shouldn't be involved (the centres, not the children).
We go to a specialist centre for riding for people with disabilities and the staff are well able to manage children with poor instruction-following ability or who shout, make sudden movements and noises etc. |
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By (user no longer on site) 37 weeks ago
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"I work with animals and we have special needs kids that visit and frankly some of them are not well behaved and take no notice of their teachers.
Some children with additional needs are unable to follow instructions and may have poor/no impulse control. This is why only centres with appropriately trained and qualified staff and well better animals should be involved with such activities. If a centre cannot understand that children with additional needs might have needs that are very different to other children, then they shouldn't be involved (the centres, not the children).
We go to a specialist centre for riding for people with disabilities and the staff are well able to manage children with poor instruction-following ability or who shout, make sudden movements and noises etc. "
Ours is a Sanctuary not a school and it is their own teachers that come with them that they take no notice of. |
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"I work with animals and we have special needs kids that visit and frankly some of them are not well behaved and take no notice of their teachers.
Some children with additional needs are unable to follow instructions and may have poor/no impulse control. This is why only centres with appropriately trained and qualified staff and well better animals should be involved with such activities. If a centre cannot understand that children with additional needs might have needs that are very different to other children, then they shouldn't be involved (the centres, not the children).
We go to a specialist centre for riding for people with disabilities and the staff are well able to manage children with poor instruction-following ability or who shout, make sudden movements and noises etc. Ours is a Sanctuary not a school and it is their own teachers that come with them that they take no notice of."
Yes, children who cannot follow instructions or who have poor impulse control will exhibit those behaviours irrespective of who is instructing them. |
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my mom had horses, after she was ill and came out of her coma she didnt remember she had a son but remembered the bloody horse. I now have a deep seated irrational hatred for horses. personally I think the are a redundant animal that should of been allowed to go extinct at the birth of internal combustion |
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"I was born with them, lived with them
I’ve been approached by a centre for teenagers with special educational needs asking if they can spend time with mine. Just wondering if it’s something I should let them do or not. Would be a nightmare insurance wise I would think"
hi i have done a bit of equine therapy, a bit of BHS training and a bit of therapy - so was an area i was really passionate about and interested in working in.
There are a few centres around now that do equine therapy, a lot of the Riding for Disabled places do ground equine therapy for all sort of SEND or mental health needs.
You will require comprehensive insurance and qualified handlers, that will vary with the number of people that you have visiting and the more diverse the needs the more specialist support workers you will require.
I organised a day with horse at the RDA centre in Warwickshire, we required more helpers, as we are pony club members I got some of the pony club kids to come and do that, but for insurance purposes they required training from the RDA.
The best place would be to contact RDA HQ in Warwickshire for information, they are really helpful, if you pm me I can give you their contact information.
it is very rewarding, but you need a lot of insurance and you need safe areas, and lots of other 'bits' to get it. I am surprised that they have approached you. When i was area manager for a childs befriending charity we had to use facilities that were established and had all the correct public liability insurance and health and safety in place.
there is also the requirement for DBS if anyone is working on a one to one with children or vulnerable adults |
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By (user no longer on site) 37 weeks ago
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"I was born with them, lived with them
I’ve been approached by a centre for teenagers with special educational needs asking if they can spend time with mine. Just wondering if it’s something I should let them do or not. Would be a nightmare insurance wise I would think"
I support a young man who's wheelchair bound and has cerebral palsy. He attends RDA - riding for the disabled. Are there any such charities like that nearby who may be able to assist? |
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By (user no longer on site) 37 weeks ago
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"my mom had horses, after she was ill and came out of her coma she didnt remember she had a son but remembered the bloody horse. I now have a deep seated irrational hatred for horses. personally I think the are a redundant animal that should of been allowed to go extinct at the birth of internal combustion"
Should endear you to lots of Females on this site .
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"I was born with them, lived with them
I’ve been approached by a centre for teenagers with special educational needs asking if they can spend time with mine. Just wondering if it’s something I should let them do or not. Would be a nightmare insurance wise I would think
I support a young man who's wheelchair bound and has cerebral palsy. He attends RDA - riding for the disabled. Are there any such charities like that nearby who may be able to assist? "
if you google equine assisted therapy you should be able to find some in your area - there was a huge surge in them pre covid - not sure how many survived, but the local centre near me has expanded since Covid and now offers to schools which takes groups of kids in, theres more of a push towards mental health |
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