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Trans-women and transvestites. Why do ‘heterosexual’ men like sex with us?
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There is a difference between trans-women and transvestites of course but I always wonder why so many ‘straight’ men who describe themselves as entirely heterosexual, and are often married, and are able to have sex with women seem to want to have sex with us.
I am unfortunately still a ‘pre-op’ trans-woman but I don’t have any male sexual urges and never have sex ‘as a man’.
Some men say that we are better at oral sex than women but from my experience in the distant past I don’t think that is necessarily true! |
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"Maybe for some it's simply the novelty?
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Yes, for some doubtless just experimentation (or to be frank desperation as they can’t find a woman to suck their cock or who wants to be fucked - I have no illusions!) , but others want to go on doing it when that certainly isn’t the case, which must imply repressed bisexuality or even sometimes repressed homosexuality? |
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By (user no longer on site) 42 weeks ago
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"There is a difference between trans-women and transvestites of course but I always wonder why so many ‘straight’ men who describe themselves as entirely heterosexual, and are often married, and are able to have sex with women seem to want to have sex with us.
I am unfortunately still a ‘pre-op’ trans-woman but I don’t have any male sexual urges and never have sex ‘as a man’.
Some men say that we are better at oral sex than women but from my experience in the distant past I don’t think that is necessarily true!"
Men are attracted to feminity that's it ![](/icons/s/razz.gif) |
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"There is a difference between trans-women and transvestites of course but I always wonder why so many ‘straight’ men who describe themselves as entirely heterosexual, and are often married, and are able to have sex with women seem to want to have sex with us.
I am unfortunately still a ‘pre-op’ trans-woman but I don’t have any male sexual urges and never have sex ‘as a man’.
Some men say that we are better at oral sex than women but from my experience in the distant past I don’t think that is necessarily true!
Men are attracted to feminity that's it "
Yes, that makes sense too. |
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I think some men who have sex with trans/CDs etc. don't want to think they are having sex with a man, it eases their conscience xx. Also others just simply love sex with women, can't get it so we are the next best thing. Personally I love sex with both men and girls, but then I am a filthy bitch xxx |
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By (user no longer on site) 42 weeks ago
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It does not bother me at all.....if it is not clear from their message then I just check that they realise that I am a crossdresser, once they confirm then happy days....I'm not bothered how guys describe their sexuality on here. |
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By (user no longer on site) 42 weeks ago
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I think some like femininity more than females.
For others, it's a way of tricking themselves they aren't attracted to penis.
For others, it's because hetro is the closest label that feels right, rather than is right. Say, if bi had presented as "equally fancying men and women".
And others will just be using a label in public they don't like, but lack confidence to say anything else. Bi men are very hidden from public. |
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For me a TS / TV needs to look feminine. Having a princess wand doesn’t bother me I’ll play with it if you’re happy. The biggest thing that I don’t like is those that put very little effort in to looking feminine.
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"For me a TS / TV needs to look feminine. Having a princess wand doesn’t bother me I’ll play with it if you’re happy. The biggest thing that I don’t like is those that put very little effort in to looking feminine.
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That’s quite subjective though right? |
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"For me a TS / TV needs to look feminine. Having a princess wand doesn’t bother me I’ll play with it if you’re happy. The biggest thing that I don’t like is those that put very little effort in to looking feminine.
That’s quite subjective though right? "
I suppose so yes. That’s my personal preference. Other are all different. I don’t care if you identify as helicopter. If your good looking and I find it attractive I’ll chat etc. each to their own
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"For me a TS / TV needs to look feminine. Having a princess wand doesn’t bother me I’ll play with it if you’re happy. The biggest thing that I don’t like is those that put very little effort in to looking feminine.
That’s quite subjective though right?
I suppose so yes. That’s my personal preference. Other are all different. I don’t care if you identify as helicopter. If your good looking and I find it attractive I’ll chat etc. each to their own
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Want a criticism more the interesting point that these things are very subjective. |
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"For me a TS / TV needs to look feminine. Having a princess wand doesn’t bother me I’ll play with it if you’re happy. The biggest thing that I don’t like is those that put very little effort in to looking feminine.
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Exactly this, a straight man likes his girl to look feminine. Facial surgery and hormones hepls offcourse, but some won't like that comment....... |
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My personal opinion is that guy's in their heads don't count it as cheating they can get their rock's off and still believe it's ok .
It's a similar mentality to meeting a swinger or prost itute,it's not an affair it's just sex .
I also think guy's assue that a Trans is going to be easier to get into bed.
I am just assuming here based on our experience with guy's and the logic some use to justify shagging someone else.
Ultimately I think it's simple.
Any holes a goal add the perceived taboo nature and they are gagging for it.
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"My personal opinion is that guy's in their heads don't count it as cheating they can get their rock's off and still believe it's ok .
It's a similar mentality to meeting a swinger or prost itute,it's not an affair it's just sex .
I also think guy's assue that a Trans is going to be easier to get into bed.
I am just assuming here based on our experience with guy's and the logic some use to justify shagging someone else.
Ultimately I think it's simple.
Any holes a goal add the perceived taboo nature and they are gagging for it.
Mr
P.s
Fancy a shag "
Your profile is hidden so I have no way of deciding whether I “Fancy a shag” or not!?????????? |
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I've played with toys for years,sticking something up my bum and having a wank was always great fun, girlfriends have used their fingers and even bought a strap on to be used, I wanted to try the real thing as a penis is softer so I found someone to recieve with, as I was doing that I thought I may as well try sucking one as well. Turns out I enjoy doing both, BUT I still consider myself straight because the terminology hetro, gay, bi to me means relationships, I don't find men attractive but I can see when a man is attractive, I could never walk down the street holding hands or sit having a kiss or a cuddle with a guy or share a bed like I do women, I love women and am completely attracted to women. I just like to play with a dick sometimes too so a trans woman that looks feminine im fine sleeping with. |
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There are ‘admirers’ they are on here to meet someone who looks like a girl and still has a penis. They’re top of my list especially if they have a decent profile with verifications. Also in bed or during the act they care about your pleasure as much as their own.
A straight guy whose profile has no mention of wanting to meet a Tgirl is more likely messaging because they’re not getting any interest on here. A pretty guy whose looks and dresses feminine will probably do and at least he gets a blow job.
However there’s plenty who also just fancy experimenting as well. So it’s up to the Tgirls on here if they’ll meet straight guys as there’s plenty out there. ![](/icons/rainbow.png) |
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"For me a TS / TV needs to look feminine. Having a princess wand doesn’t bother me I’ll play with it if you’re happy. The biggest thing that I don’t like is those that put very little effort in to looking feminine.
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Haha Princess Wand... I'll use that... "Clitty-Pole" just seems so last year now...
I always say to guys (after we've shagged)...
If I show you the Female England Football/Rugby Team line-up and you can easily pick the girls you'd shag, then look at the Male Football/Rugby line up, and nothing stirs, then you're more straight than gay. |
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For me it’s solving the issue. I found out I like to play with strangers cocks after an alcohol induced play with a guy. Was so good I hooked up with another guy but afterwards I quickly realised men do nothing for me. Only cock I’m interested in. So that’s where my interest comes from. |
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"There is a difference between trans-women and transvestites of course but I always wonder why so many ‘straight’ men who describe themselves as entirely heterosexual, and are often married, and are able to have sex with women seem to want to have sex with us.
I am unfortunately still a ‘pre-op’ trans-woman but I don’t have any male sexual urges and never have sex ‘as a man’.
Some men say that we are better at oral sex than women but from my experience in the distant past I don’t think that is necessarily true!"
Exactly, massive difference |
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By *equila89Man 37 weeks ago
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I like trans femininity. Soft, smooth skin, long hair make up and lingerie are all turn ons. I do have a wider scope of attraction to non trans women, but so long as there’s the right level of femininity I’m interested. I’ll never see myself as anything other than straight but wont lose sleep over it if someone else feels differently. |
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By *ary69321Man 2 weeks ago
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It could be some women don't want to try anal, where trans and crossdressers can only have anal, plus they say women are better at oral sex with women, I suppose men could be better at sucking dick, because we know where and what we like. |
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"It could be some women don't want to try anal, where trans and crossdressers can only have anal, plus they say women are better at oral sex with women, I suppose men could be better at sucking dick, because we know where and what we like."
I think that probably has a lot to do with it, although a trans-woman who has had a vaginoplasty rather than just a vulvoplasty is able to have something very close to ordinary sexual intercouse. I am waiting to be emasculated and feminised physically but will only be able to have a vulvoplasty. |
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"For me it's curiosity to explore my bi curiosity.
If I put bi curious on my profile I get straight guys wanting me to suck their cocks which I'm not interested in doing"
This for me too,
Although with alot of you it's very difficult to tell your not naturally female, Just all stunning women to me |
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"There is a difference between trans-women and transvestites of course but I always wonder why so many ‘straight’ men who describe themselves as entirely heterosexual, and are often married, and are able to have sex with women seem to want to have sex with us.
I am unfortunately still a ‘pre-op’ trans-woman but I don’t have any male sexual urges and never have sex ‘as a man’.
Some men say that we are better at oral sex than women but from my experience in the distant past I don’t think that is necessarily true!"
I know plenty of trans women that only like to meet straight guys
I understand not all do
But sure they are attracted to the woman’s form
After all they wouldn’t always know if you were pre or post op on first meeting you
I see it in Thailand a lot although some maybe obvious there are so many that are not
Do the initial attraction must be as I said the woman’s form shape personality |
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I'm attracted to femininity
I'm not bothered by gay or straight labels, I just don't find masculine people attractive
I'd find a trans woman (pre op for example) more attractive than a masculine looking man
However, I find muscular women attractive as I don't see muscle as masculine
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"I'm attracted to femininity
I'm not bothered by gay or straight labels, I just don't find masculine people attractive
I'd find a trans woman (pre op for example) more attractive than a masculine looking man
However, I find muscular women attractive as I don't see muscle as masculine
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As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. " are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
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"Is a married man who regards himself as straight not the desire for someone Trans, I guess a confirmation that they are close to being perceived as a woman? "
No, certainly not for me. I avoid married men. |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men "
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs" I'm only referring to trans |
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"I imagine they are not heterosexual as I presume someone is getting buggered
I think that I see what you mean but if a man had anal sex with a woman that is presumably still heterosexual sex?"
Definitely because it's between two people of the 'opposite' sex, you could ask the same question substituting "anal" for oral. Surely it's not the sex act that makes it gay, bi or heterosexual but the sex of the people doing it. |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs I'm only referring to trans "
I'm going to get shot for this. A trans m to f. Yes I do consider them females that is not in question.
But to play devil's advocate here.
If said m to f still had her penis and a straight guy met her and sucked her penis. Is that man bi or straight? |
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"I imagine they are not heterosexual as I presume someone is getting buggered
I think that I see what you mean but if a man had anal sex with a woman that is presumably still heterosexual sex?
Definitely because it's between two people of the 'opposite' sex, you could ask the same question substituting "anal" for oral. Surely it's not the sex act that makes it gay, bi or heterosexual but the sex of the people doing it."
Wholeheartedly concur |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs I'm only referring to trans
I'm going to get shot for this. A trans m to f. Yes I do consider them females that is not in question.
But to play devil's advocate here.
If said m to f still had her penis and a straight guy met her and sucked her penis. Is that man bi or straight?" I don't know because she classes herself as a lady so I'm not sure |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs.
I'm only referring to trans "
That's why all but our last sentence of our reply was about trans. There's a difference between TS and TV.
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs.
I'm only referring to trans
That's why all but our last sentence of our reply was about trans. There's a difference between TS and TV.
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs I'm only referring to trans
I'm going to get shot for this. A trans m to f. Yes I do consider them females that is not in question.
But to play devil's advocate here.
If said m to f still had her penis and a straight guy met her and sucked her penis. Is that man bi or straight? I don't know because she classes herself as a lady so I'm not sure "
Classes herself? She is a lady!.
But you as a straight man. If your friend told you he was with a female and he sucked her penis.
What would your initial thoughts be? Is that a straight act or a bisexual act? |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs I'm only referring to trans
I'm going to get shot for this. A trans m to f. Yes I do consider them females that is not in question.
But to play devil's advocate here.
If said m to f still had her penis and a straight guy met her and sucked her penis. Is that man bi or straight? I don't know because she classes herself as a lady so I'm not sure "
We'd say that any "straight" guy who wanted to suck a cock, no matter who it was attached to was either bi, gay or kidding themselves. |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs I'm only referring to trans
I'm going to get shot for this. A trans m to f. Yes I do consider them females that is not in question.
But to play devil's advocate here.
If said m to f still had her penis and a straight guy met her and sucked her penis. Is that man bi or straight? I don't know because she classes herself as a lady so I'm not sure
We'd say that any "straight" guy who wanted to suck a cock, no matter who it was attached to was either bi, gay or kidding themselves." what about a strap-on. |
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I just opened my mind when I was younger to explore although never did unitil latter years. Its been a long while since I have been with anyone after my last relationship (which was with a woman), fair to say the lack of attraction and mental abuse pushed me to explore again, and i simply want that extra in the bedroom, I don't fancy men at all, but a pretty fem looking trans girl with a nice bum and c..k I've been wanting more and more. Having said that the right connection and I'd be happy with either ts or female, who will win me over?? haha |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs I'm only referring to trans
I'm going to get shot for this. A trans m to f. Yes I do consider them females that is not in question.
But to play devil's advocate here.
If said m to f still had her penis and a straight guy met her and sucked her penis. Is that man bi or straight? I don't know because she classes herself as a lady so I'm not sure
We'd say that any "straight" guy who wanted to suck a cock, no matter who it was attached to was either bi, gay or kidding themselves. what about a strap-on."
You may as well say a banana, most straight guys have put one in their mouth, that doesn't make them bi or gay. The trick is not to make eye contact when your eating it. ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs I'm only referring to trans
I'm going to get shot for this. A trans m to f. Yes I do consider them females that is not in question.
But to play devil's advocate here.
If said m to f still had her penis and a straight guy met her and sucked her penis. Is that man bi or straight? I don't know because she classes herself as a lady so I'm not sure
We'd say that any "straight" guy who wanted to suck a cock, no matter who it was attached to was either bi, gay or kidding themselves. what about a strap-on.
You may as well say a banana, most straight guys have put one in their mouth, that doesn't make them bi or gay. The trick is not to make eye contact when your eating it. " bananas aren't meant for sex a strap-on is it is it's only purpose. |
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"As has been previously said it's down to the "any holes a goal" mentality. And closet bi guys who just can't/won't admit it to themselves so appease their conscience by having sex with a guy in a frock. They say they're not bi because they don't want a relationship with another guy, the key word is 'sexual' not relational. It's to do with sexuality and sex acts hence bi-sexual, so they're only kidding themselves. are you classing a trans lady as a man because I presume they all class themselves as ladies and not men
No, because we believe that some people can be born into the wrong body, for want of a better term. And to go the whole way including surgery to change sex shows a commitment that goes way above and beyond mere sexual titillation. We were referring to TVs I'm only referring to trans
I'm going to get shot for this. A trans m to f. Yes I do consider them females that is not in question.
But to play devil's advocate here.
If said m to f still had her penis and a straight guy met her and sucked her penis. Is that man bi or straight? I don't know because she classes herself as a lady so I'm not sure
We'd say that any "straight" guy who wanted to suck a cock, no matter who it was attached to was either bi, gay or kidding themselves."
Ppl may say this is transphobic
But I as a bi guy 100% agree.
I totally agree that trans women are female and should be treated and respected as so. I do however believe that whilst the penis is still there. A straight man who has sexual relations with her cannot call himself straight.
I think I may totally regret posting this. And almost haven't many times but fuck here goes.
Shit I'm kinda feirt.... |
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"Trans women may think they are female but are actually men also are CDs or transvetities it's
Matter of fact. I'm not trasphobic."
There's another word for people who refuse to recognise the gender of others. |
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"It would be a great world if there wasn't any tags for everyone's sexuality and we all just got along "
We all can get along. Disagreeing with someone's opinion and proposing your own is not not getting along.
I do however find it interesting that you as a straight man didn't answer my hypothetical question earlier when you were so keen to reply to most before lol 🙄 |
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"It would be a great world if there wasn't any tags for everyone's sexuality and we all just got along
We all can get along. Disagreeing with someone's opinion and proposing your own is not not getting along.
I do however find it interesting that you as a straight man didn't answer my hypothetical question earlier when you were so keen to reply to most before lol 🙄" which one |
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"It would be a great world if there wasn't any tags for everyone's sexuality and we all just got along
We all can get along. Disagreeing with someone's opinion and proposing your own is not not getting along.
I do however find it interesting that you as a straight man didn't answer my hypothetical question earlier when you were so keen to reply to most before lol 🙄 which one "
The one where I asked you as a straight man. If your friend told you he had met a woman and sucked her penis.
Would you think of this as a bisexual act or a straight man act. |
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"It would be a great world if there wasn't any tags for everyone's sexuality and we all just got along
We all can get along. Disagreeing with someone's opinion and proposing your own is not not getting along.
I do however find it interesting that you as a straight man didn't answer my hypothetical question earlier when you were so keen to reply to most before lol 🙄 which one
The one where I asked you as a straight man. If your friend told you he had met a woman and sucked her penis.
Would you think of this as a bisexual act or a straight man act. "
Your conflation of sex, sexuality and gender isn't the gotcha you think it is. |
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"It would be a great world if there wasn't any tags for everyone's sexuality and we all just got along
We all can get along. Disagreeing with someone's opinion and proposing your own is not not getting along.
I do however find it interesting that you as a straight man didn't answer my hypothetical question earlier when you were so keen to reply to most before lol 🙄 which one
The one where I asked you as a straight man. If your friend told you he had met a woman and sucked her penis.
Would you think of this as a bisexual act or a straight man act. " missed that and before I joined fab I would have probably called him gay but not I wouldn't because I have learned a lot since I joined |
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"It would be a great world if there wasn't any tags for everyone's sexuality and we all just got along
We all can get along. Disagreeing with someone's opinion and proposing your own is not not getting along.
I do however find it interesting that you as a straight man didn't answer my hypothetical question earlier when you were so keen to reply to most before lol 🙄 which one
The one where I asked you as a straight man. If your friend told you he had met a woman and sucked her penis.
Would you think of this as a bisexual act or a straight man act.
Your conflation of sex, sexuality and gender isn't the gotcha you think it is."
How do you mean?
I am genuinely interested on how this is seen my a straight man. As a bi man I see this at least as having bi tendencies. I honestly can't see any logical reason as to why it isn't. |
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"It would be a great world if there wasn't any tags for everyone's sexuality and we all just got along
We all can get along. Disagreeing with someone's opinion and proposing your own is not not getting along.
I do however find it interesting that you as a straight man didn't answer my hypothetical question earlier when you were so keen to reply to most before lol 🙄 which one
The one where I asked you as a straight man. If your friend told you he had met a woman and sucked her penis.
Would you think of this as a bisexual act or a straight man act.
Your conflation of sex, sexuality and gender isn't the gotcha you think it is.
How do you mean?
I am genuinely interested on how this is seen my a straight man. As a bi man I see this at least as having bi tendencies. I honestly can't see any logical reason as to why it isn't. "
I'm straight. I wouldn't and couldn't. It's as simple as that.
But in this day and age some people.find that offensive.
And to that I say..ok. |
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"It would be a great world if there wasn't any tags for everyone's sexuality and we all just got along
We all can get along. Disagreeing with someone's opinion and proposing your own is not not getting along.
I do however find it interesting that you as a straight man didn't answer my hypothetical question earlier when you were so keen to reply to most before lol 🙄 which one
The one where I asked you as a straight man. If your friend told you he had met a woman and sucked her penis.
Would you think of this as a bisexual act or a straight man act.
Your conflation of sex, sexuality and gender isn't the gotcha you think it is.
How do you mean?
I am genuinely interested on how this is seen my a straight man. As a bi man I see this at least as having bi tendencies. I honestly can't see any logical reason as to why it isn't.
I'm straight. I wouldn't and couldn't. It's as simple as that.
But in this day and age some people.find that offensive.
And to that I say..ok. "
As a trans woman I don’t find that offensive. You are wired how you are wired. Never let people shame you for that
I have had loads of meets with couples where the guy is straight and it was just me and him in effect doing mfm. They were all great with me around that / socially hanging out etc |
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Because they are attracted to the 'act of sex'. Different things excite different people and I dont think in this day and age, there is any need for labels for gender/sexuality. Which is less confusing than the myriad of self imposed labels, that often can lead to unintentional offense. In 'the act of sex' there will be a certain amount of deception, but lots of people are happy with that. It's the unknowing whose feelings are hurt, when they have been 'used' for sexual gratification. |
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If a man continually has sexual contact with a person who has a penis then he is at the very least bi sexual. All this nonsense about not labelling is exactly that, non sense.
You are straight if you have no attraction to someone who possesses a penis.
You don't have to kiss them, you don't have to take their penis up your arse, you don't even have to put your penis up their bum, but if you find yourself sexually attracted to someone who has a penis and act on that attraction you are on the bi sexuality scale. I hope that helps the deniers/deluded. |
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"If a man continually has sexual contact with a person who has a penis then he is at the very least bi sexual. All this nonsense about not labelling is exactly that, non sense.
You are straight if you have no attraction to someone who possesses a penis.
You don't have to kiss them, you don't have to take their penis up your arse, you don't even have to put your penis up their bum, but if you find yourself sexually attracted to someone who has a penis and act on that attraction you are on the bi sexuality scale. I hope that helps the deniers/deluded."
HALLELUJAH!
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"If a man continually has sexual contact with a person who has a penis then he is at the very least bi sexual. All this nonsense about not labelling is exactly that, non sense.
You are straight if you have no attraction to someone who possesses a penis.
You don't have to kiss them, you don't have to take their penis up your arse, you don't even have to put your penis up their bum, but if you find yourself sexually attracted to someone who has a penis and act on that attraction you are on the bi sexuality scale. I hope that helps the deniers/deluded."
That's a lot of absolute statements and a few unnecessary insults but you are still wrong. |
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"If a man continually has sexual contact with a person who has a penis then he is at the very least bi sexual. All this nonsense about not labelling is exactly that, non sense.
You are straight if you have no attraction to someone who possesses a penis.
You don't have to kiss them, you don't have to take their penis up your arse, you don't even have to put your penis up their bum, but if you find yourself sexually attracted to someone who has a penis and act on that attraction you are on the bi sexuality scale. I hope that helps the deniers/deluded.
That's a lot of absolute statements and a few unnecessary insults but you are still wrong."
Please point out the insults.
Try going to a GU clinic and telling them you like playing with people who have a penis. They do totally different tests if you have sexual contact with people with a penis to if you just have sexual contact with people who were born with a vagina. At least you have the extra tests if you're honest with them. |
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"Trans women may think they are female but are actually men also are CDs or transvetities it's
Matter of fact. I'm not trasphobic."
This isn’t America (thankfully) we recognise the broad spectrum of genders irrespective of sex |
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From my perspective, I'm a hetro male, on the scale of 100, I'm probably well in the 90s, I don't judge life choices and let people be whomever they choose, I'm fully behind that, it's just not for me, same as Bi-play, gangbangs, race play, age gap or cheating. Horses for courses ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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Can't speak for everyone only for me. I need to be attracted to the person to have sex with them, I'm unconcerned with what genitals they may have it's much more to do with look (that sounds shallow), attitude and personality - I haven't, as yet, been attracted to a man as a man but I have found men dressed as women attractive.
What that makes me in this whole sexuallity pigeon holing I've no idea and really don't care ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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