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 it was discussed on here the other day with around 99% no. | |||
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"I wonder how many would be medically exempt if conscription was introduced " That would depend on the criteria really | |||
"What if a campaign similar to that run for Brexit or encouraging us to stay at home during covid was run? Based around duty to vulnerable citizens or for the good of our country and maintaining our borders? " It would massively split the country. After the tories partying in Downing St whilst telling everyone else to isolate, there would be a massive amount of scepticism over any campaign and given how brexit has turned out, much the same could be said there, too. | |||
"What if a campaign similar to that run for Brexit or encouraging us to stay at home during covid was run? Based around duty to vulnerable citizens or for the good of our country and maintaining our borders? It would massively split the country. After the tories partying in Downing St whilst telling everyone else to isolate, there would be a massive amount of scepticism over any campaign and given how brexit has turned out, much the same could be said there, too." I'd hope so Tina but I can't be confident | |||
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"I would resist. You can put me in when all the corporate CEOs are enlisted."  | |||
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"I’d resist, even though I’m likely above the age range. I look forward to lots of men also above the age range telling us how they’d defeat the enemy singlehanded, and that youngsters are all soft." Probably get put in the Home Guard like Dad's Army. | |||
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"We were talking about this over Easter lunch yesterday. Someone said they favoured a national service but for non military community/3rd sector work. Given the appalling state of publicly funded services currently, it seemed like a decent way for people to invest in their communities and improve living standards. We couldn't figure out the exact logistics but it was a nice idea. " I work in the third sector, for a charity with thousands of volunteers. The absolute last thing we'd want is people forced upon us who don't really care about the mission of the charity. | |||
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"Sounds like a fair question, if you were Ukrainian, would you join the war or run and sit it out? If you ran would you expect to go back when the war was over? Would you expect the respect of your neighbours? " But we are not in Ukraine. We are in the UK. | |||
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"I thought I paid tax so the government can keep an army funded? It's like paying for a subscription to Netflix, only they want me to create the content myself too." Bit like only fans then? | |||
"We were talking about this over Easter lunch yesterday. Someone said they favoured a national service but for non military community/3rd sector work. Given the appalling state of publicly funded services currently, it seemed like a decent way for people to invest in their communities and improve living standards. We couldn't figure out the exact logistics but it was a nice idea. I work in the third sector, for a charity with thousands of volunteers. The absolute last thing we'd want is people forced upon us who don't really care about the mission of the charity." Yeah this was an objection raised by my sister in law who also works in 3rd sector. And tbh I can totally imagine what a mine field it would be to implement such a scene. It prompted an interesting discussion round the table though about social responsibility. | |||
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"Sounds like a fair question, if you were Ukrainian, would you join the war or run and sit it out? If you ran would you expect to go back when the war was over? Would you expect the respect of your neighbours? But we are not in Ukraine. We are in the UK." I suspect things would be different maybe if we had an enemy army officially pouring in over our shores, it's probably quite hard to swing when the bullets are flying. | |||
"Sounds like a fair question, if you were Ukrainian, would you join the war or run and sit it out? If you ran would you expect to go back when the war was over? Would you expect the respect of your neighbours? But we are not in Ukraine. We are in the UK." And when Britain is invaded? Who would defend Britain? I would. | |||
" I suspect things would be different maybe if we had an enemy army officially pouring in over our shores, it's probably quite hard to swing when the bullets are flying." When the bullets are flying, yes, but in the rest periods sex is not a complicated thing. Fun now, who knows if there is a tomorrow? | |||
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"I'd definitely go. As long as everybody had to. No excuses for race/disability/religion/gender. If it compulsory for one person it has to be for everybody. " Are you having a laugh re: the disability bit?! You really think it would be of use to anyone to deploy to a fighting situation, physically or mentally disabled people, who would potentially hold up the abled fighters, get in the way, possibly be unable to follow orders (in the case if mental disabilities) and might give away YOUR location, through their inability to hide, run, be quiet etc?! I'm physically disabled and use a wheelchair. I've already explained that, if Russians are invading and they're advancing up my driveway, I WILL fight, as best as I can. But deploying me on a battlefield would just be stupidity. I'd do other kinds of work, e.g. stitching uniforms or a desk job or something like that, if it were a case of a WW2-like situation. My husband would do whatever he needed to do to keep his family safe. | |||
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"Sounds like a fair question, if you were Ukrainian, would you join the war or run and sit it out? If you ran would you expect to go back when the war was over? Would you expect the respect of your neighbours? But we are not in Ukraine. We are in the UK. I suspect things would be different maybe if we had an enemy army officially pouring in over our shores, it's probably quite hard to swing when the bullets are flying." And anyone who has ever read anything on modern military strategy or the future of war knows that no enemy is just going to sail troops up to our beaches. There’s very little that conscripts could do to defend the UK. | |||
"A bit late to the picnic on this one, but we may remember that this was a topic of discussion in the media back in January. So, if mandatory conscription was introduced to fight for this country in the event of war and you were in the required age brackets to qualify, would you go along with it, or would you resist, even in the face of legal consequences? " No issue here, I’ve got twenty years of part time experience  | |||
"And anyone who has ever read anything on modern military strategy or the future of war knows that no enemy is just going to sail troops up to our beaches. There’s very little that conscripts could do to defend the UK." Exactly, and even if we did have conscripts, we would have nothing to arm them with and certainly don't have the artillery or armour to protect them with. If the war in Ukraine has taught us anything it should be that the way that wars have been fought before has gone straight out the window. Entire fleets can be and have been blown out the water easily. A very large air force can be rendered ineffective. Battlefield tanks are easy prey for drones as well. The above proves that the way wars are fought in the future needs fundamental root and branch re evaluation. Conscripts could never play any meaningful part, except maybe as drone pilots. | |||
"A bit late to the picnic on this one, but we may remember that this was a topic of discussion in the media back in January. So, if mandatory conscription was introduced to fight for this country in the event of war and you were in the required age brackets to qualify, would you go along with it, or would you resist, even in the face of legal consequences? " Thank God I am old, and I hope THEY never read about my pathetic claims to be young at heart and really fit for my age! I would help my 18 years old son to resist.  | |||
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"I wonder how many would be medically exempt if conscription was introduced " bonespurs ? | |||
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"I'd definitely go. As long as everybody had to. No excuses for race/disability/religion/gender. If it compulsory for one person it has to be for everybody. Are you having a laugh re: the disability bit?! You really think it would be of use to anyone to deploy to a fighting situation, physically or mentally disabled people, who would potentially hold up the abled fighters, get in the way, possibly be unable to follow orders (in the case if mental disabilities) and might give away YOUR location, through their inability to hide, run, be quiet etc?! I'm physically disabled and use a wheelchair. I've already explained that, if Russians are invading and they're advancing up my driveway, I WILL fight, as best as I can. But deploying me on a battlefield would just be stupidity. I'd do other kinds of work, e.g. stitching uniforms or a desk job or something like that, if it were a case of a WW2-like situation. My husband would do whatever he needed to do to keep his family safe. " No, I'm not having a laugh at all. Everybody can be found something useful to do. Admin, driving, peeling spuds etc. As a disabled person myself I'd feel I was letting the side down if I didn't pitch in when I know I can. I'm saying that conscription isn't conscription if people can choose to exempt themselves. | |||
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"I have a daughter who I would like to enjoy the freedom that I have enjoyed, so of course I would. I wonder what those that would opt out think awaits them when the Russians or Chinese are our new masters? K."  this  | |||
"I have a daughter who I would like to enjoy the freedom that I have enjoyed, so of course I would. I wonder what those that would opt out think awaits them when the Russians or Chinese are our new masters? K." The Russians and Chinese won’t go to war with us in a way that requires us to field conscripts. | |||
"A bit late to the picnic on this one, but we may remember that this was a topic of discussion in the media back in January. So, if mandatory conscription was introduced to fight for this country in the event of war and you were in the required age brackets to qualify, would you go along with it, or would you resist, even in the face of legal consequences? " I most definitely would stand up and fight if there was a full blown war where the country was in peril, but not illegal invasions like Iraq two decades ago | |||
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"I have a daughter who I would like to enjoy the freedom that I have enjoyed, so of course I would. I wonder what those that would opt out think awaits them when the Russians or Chinese are our new masters? K." Probably not a huge difference. | |||
"I don't think many countries in the world do conscription. Eritrea has a conscription policy, but then again thousands of young men and women leave the country and migrant to Europe ever year to avoid conscription. Mostly because Eritrea has been under a totalitarian dictatorship since 1993. " Quite a few still do. Most Scandinavian countries do IIRC. However they are small population nations with militaries that are agile with many specialist roles for people to learn. I have friends who were Norwegian conscripts, who learned things such as demolition and firefighting and now work in related civilian roles many years later. | |||
"I don't think many countries in the world do conscription. Eritrea has a conscription policy, but then again thousands of young men and women leave the country and migrant to Europe ever year to avoid conscription. Mostly because Eritrea has been under a totalitarian dictatorship since 1993. " More do than you think, actually. Kuwait, Iran, North and South Koreas, Singapore, many Scandinavian countries, Estonia, Lithuania, Laos, Belarus, Israel, Brazil, Myanmar, Austria, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Colombia, Egypt, Greece, Mexico, Morocco are all ones I'm aware of. Basically most former Soviet republics in Central Europe and Asia; most north African countries, many LatAm countries, many of the smaller Asian countries, several Middle Eastern ones do. I'm not as well versed on Central and Southern Africa. The non-Scandi European countries are actually more of an outlier, globally. | |||
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"I don't think many countries in the world do conscription. Eritrea has a conscription policy, but then again thousands of young men and women leave the country and migrant to Europe ever year to avoid conscription. Mostly because Eritrea has been under a totalitarian dictatorship since 1993. More do than you think, actually. Kuwait, Iran, North and South Koreas, Singapore, many Scandinavian countries, Estonia, Lithuania, Laos, Belarus, Israel, Brazil, Myanmar, Austria, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Colombia, Egypt, Greece, Mexico, Morocco are all ones I'm aware of. Basically most former Soviet republics in Central Europe and Asia; most north African countries, many LatAm countries, many of the smaller Asian countries, several Middle Eastern ones do. I'm not as well versed on Central and Southern Africa. The non-Scandi European countries are actually more of an outlier, globally. " Fascinating... I didn't know that. Thanks for educating me on that. Much appreciated | |||
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"Plus in my opinion most of the teenagers couldn't hack it or cope." Awks, as they’ll be the people joining our future military anyway. Gbat | |||
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"Plus in my opinion most of the teenagers couldn't hack it or cope. Awks, as they’ll be the people joining our future military anyway. Gbat " Genuinely made me lol. | |||
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"They wouldn't take me so I'd go along with it
Mrs "
Everyone seems pretty confident they wouldn't be conscripted and just as confident that those who would be are too useless to be any good. Basically we're doomed
Ps they definitely wouldn't have me. If my glasses got broken I'd be pressing the wrong button | |||
"I know everyone keeps saying that warfare is different now and we wouldn't need boots on the ground. Every conflict on going currently has boots on the ground. Am I missing something?" Your not, ground is only held by boots on the ground.. Ukraine whilst technology is playing a major role with drones etc is still essentially trench warfare, similar to WW1.. We need to train up more cyber types because the ongoing attacks in that area is where things are moving and where nations are vulnerable.. | |||
"I know everyone keeps saying that warfare is different now and we wouldn't need boots on the ground. Every conflict on going currently has boots on the ground. Am I missing something?" Every conflict needs boots on the ground unless you can nuke the enemy out of existence first. Robots are a nice fantasy, but they are useless on the ground. | |||
"I know everyone keeps saying that warfare is different now and we wouldn't need boots on the ground. Every conflict on going currently has boots on the ground. Am I missing something? Your not, ground is only held by boots on the ground.. Ukraine whilst technology is playing a major role with drones etc is still essentially trench warfare, similar to WW1.. We need to train up more cyber types because the ongoing attacks in that area is where things are moving and where nations are vulnerable.." Very true. Some of the upcoming generation will be very valuable for that | |||
"I know everyone keeps saying that warfare is different now and we wouldn't need boots on the ground. Every conflict on going currently has boots on the ground. Am I missing something? Every conflict needs boots on the ground unless you can nuke the enemy out of existence first. Robots are a nice fantasy, but they are useless on the ground." Which, given the current state of our armed forces, makes me think that conscription could be an option | |||
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"I know everyone keeps saying that warfare is different now and we wouldn't need boots on the ground. Every conflict on going currently has boots on the ground. Am I missing something? Every conflict needs boots on the ground unless you can nuke the enemy out of existence first. Robots are a nice fantasy, but they are useless on the ground. Which, given the current state of our armed forces, makes me think that conscription could be an option " If Russia manages to break through the NATO's defences and is getting ready to land on this island, the yes, we will need conscription. Another option would be to send a large army to fight in Europe (again) so that Russians cannot get close enough to us. You'd need conscripts to pull that one off, because Russians prefer to send tens of thousands of men and women to death and someone needs to send them where they won't come from. Current military estimates suggest that in order to defeat Russia we'd need to achieve 1:10 kill ratio (i.e. ten Russians sent to Hell for each of ours). That is a lot of men with guns on the ground. | |||
"I know everyone keeps saying that warfare is different now and we wouldn't need boots on the ground. Every conflict on going currently has boots on the ground. Am I missing something? Every conflict needs boots on the ground unless you can nuke the enemy out of existence first. Robots are a nice fantasy, but they are useless on the ground. Which, given the current state of our armed forces, makes me think that conscription could be an option If Russia manages to break through the NATO's defences and is getting ready to land on this island, the yes, we will need conscription. Another option would be to send a large army to fight in Europe (again) so that Russians cannot get close enough to us. You'd need conscripts to pull that one off, because Russians prefer to send tens of thousands of men and women to death and someone needs to send them where they won't come from. Current military estimates suggest that in order to defeat Russia we'd need to achieve 1:10 kill ratio (i.e. ten Russians sent to Hell for each of ours). That is a lot of men with guns on the ground." That's sobering reading. | |||
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" I would urge those to read the works of Douglas Murray. " Right wing conspiracist crank, Douglas Murray? | |||
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"We are so spoilt and self entitled… Wow! (I refer to those rolling their eyes at the prospect of conscription and their reluctance to defend the privileges they enjoy.) Britain will be a totally different group of countries within our generation. Those more willing to bring about change (not to the British values of my youth) are going to win through nothing but our apathy. I am sure there will be witty people with smart remarks about me being dramatic, hysterical or other derogatory comments suggesting the folly of my comments but I would urge those to read the works of Douglas Murray. " Murray has been selling outrage for 20 years. | |||
"Current military estimates suggest that in order to defeat Russia we'd need to achieve 1:10 kill ratio (i.e. ten Russians sent to Hell for each of ours). That is a lot of men with guns on the ground. That's sobering reading. " It's even more sobering when you realise that Ukrainians are currently achieving 1:4 kill ratio and they had a lot of practice recently. Our technological superiority can only be relied upon if we can keep the Russian army at a distance. Close quarters it's back to guns, grenades, and knives. That requires a lot of people. | |||
"Jeez. Russia has no beef with anyone. Reminder that it was us trying to put our boots on their borders through proxy Ukraine that got them startled. And we're still doing it now, funding the Ukrainians at our own expense like their success matters to us. It doesn't, we're just getting poorer and the war monsters are getting richer." Our fault that Russia invaded Ukraine! I've heard it all now | |||
"Current military estimates suggest that in order to defeat Russia we'd need to achieve 1:10 kill ratio (i.e. ten Russians sent to Hell for each of ours). That is a lot of men with guns on the ground. That's sobering reading. It's even more sobering when you realise that Ukrainians are currently achieving 1:4 kill ratio and they had a lot of practice recently. Our technological superiority can only be relied upon if we can keep the Russian army at a distance. Close quarters it's back to guns, grenades, and knives. That requires a lot of people." Basically then, we're all just pawns in someone else's game of chess | |||
"Jeez. Russia has no beef with anyone. Reminder that it was us trying to put our boots on their borders through proxy Ukraine that got them startled. And we're still doing it now, funding the Ukrainians at our own expense like their success matters to us. It doesn't, we're just getting poorer and the war monsters are getting richer. Our fault that Russia invaded Ukraine! I've heard it all now "Well... Not you personally. You're just a nex-gal from Fabs with no real influence in the geopolitical scale of things. But I'm sure you're well read 
John Mearsheimer did a more convincing job persuading me than Rishi Sunak or Biden did. There's plenty of material he presents on YouTube that you could look up. Putin has been consistent. The US/NATO hasn't. | |||
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"They wouldn't take me so I'd go along with it
Mrs
Everyone seems pretty confident they wouldn't be conscripted and just as confident that those who would be are too useless to be any good. Basically we're doomed
Ps they definitely wouldn't have me. If my glasses got broken I'd be pressing the wrong button"I'm more than confident I'm certain. Mrs | |||
"I would join back up under the condition that my children didn’t have to " I'd do the same, so long as our leadership put themselves and their families on the front lines serving their country. Sadly their rhetoric is all about self preservation and nothing to do with principle. | |||
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"Current military estimates suggest that in order to defeat Russia we'd need to achieve 1:10 kill ratio (i.e. ten Russians sent to Hell for each of ours). That is a lot of men with guns on the ground. That's sobering reading. It's even more sobering when you realise that Ukrainians are currently achieving 1:4 kill ratio and they had a lot of practice recently. Our technological superiority can only be relied upon if we can keep the Russian army at a distance. Close quarters it's back to guns, grenades, and knives. That requires a lot of people. Basically then, we're all just pawns in someone else's game of chess " Fortunately for us we have options. We can supply weapons to those that fight Russians already and build up our defence capabilities to make sure we can intercept and destroy anything that may be trying to hit this island. If Ukrainians loose and Russians take Lviv our troop are going to Europe. | |||
"They wouldn't take me so I'd go along with it
Mrs
Everyone seems pretty confident they wouldn't be conscripted and just as confident that those who would be are too useless to be any good. Basically we're doomed
Ps they definitely wouldn't have me. If my glasses got broken I'd be pressing the wrong button
I'm more than confident I'm certain.
Mrs "We can stay home and knit machine gun cosies | |||
"Current military estimates suggest that in order to defeat Russia we'd need to achieve 1:10 kill ratio (i.e. ten Russians sent to Hell for each of ours). That is a lot of men with guns on the ground. That's sobering reading. It's even more sobering when you realise that Ukrainians are currently achieving 1:4 kill ratio and they had a lot of practice recently. Our technological superiority can only be relied upon if we can keep the Russian army at a distance. Close quarters it's back to guns, grenades, and knives. That requires a lot of people. Basically then, we're all just pawns in someone else's game of chess " Yes. If it gets to the point where conscripts with machine guns are required, we've already lost. | |||
"I don't agree with the way the country is being run but I'm ex army anyway so I would fight for the country not the government" I would resist on every level possible for a variety of reasons. Successive govts have purposely run down and underfunded the entirety of the armed forces over the years in order to spend the money on other more vote-winning projects thus failing to adequately provide for the nations defence. Countless generals have gone out of their way to countenance this, despite the obvious ramifications of their public approval, in order to safeguard their own pension pots. Serving and former soldiers have been jailed & harassed by a legal system intent on providing political propaganda to the enemies of this country where the simple mantra is that the system is at fault, not the individuals. I wouldn’t want to send a child to a military which has betrayed the principals of merit and elitism for politically correct wokeness and weakness. And finally these elitist career politicians of all sides have allowed this country to meander to the precipice of the abyss and I don’t believe this society and its lack of moral values is worth fighting for anymore. They believe the people are their to serve them whereas in times gone by most politicians understood they were the servants of the people. | |||
"Serving and former soldiers have been jailed & harassed by a legal system intent on providing political propaganda to the enemies of this country where the simple mantra is that the system is at fault, not the individuals " Jailed? Only if they’ve committed crimes. Most soldiers go through their service without committing crime and it’s right to expect that if they do commit a crime, they should face the consequences. Gbat | |||
"IServing and former soldiers have been jailed & harassed by a legal system intent on providing political propaganda to the enemies of this country where the simple mantra is that the system is at fault, not the individuals. " Can’t do the time? Don’t do the crime. | |||
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"I’ve been there , served 9 years . The politicians have stripped the services to the bare minimum and give no help to our veterans, Personally I don’t blame any one for not enlisting " It is a disgrace how our veterans are treated, especially in comparison to those who hate this country yet get everything on a plate | |||
"It is a disgrace how our veterans are treated ….. " What’s disgraceful about it? People sign on for a contract, earn an agreed wage, then leave. I understand there are even courses to help people get a new job or extra skills. And if you were there long enough, you get a pension. Beats a lot of other jobs. "especially in comparison to those who hate this country yet get everything on a plate. " Who hates the UK but gets everything on a plate? Who are you talking about? The current government pretty much does everyone over and only a selected few get anything on a plate. Gbat | |||
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"I don't think many countries in the world do conscription. Eritrea has a conscription policy, but then again thousands of young men and women leave the country and migrant to Europe ever year to avoid conscription. Mostly because Eritrea has been under a totalitarian dictatorship since 1993. More do than you think, actually. Kuwait, Iran, North and South Koreas, Singapore, many Scandinavian countries, Estonia, Lithuania, Laos, Belarus, Israel, Brazil, Myanmar, Austria, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Colombia, Egypt, Greece, Mexico, Morocco are all ones I'm aware of. Basically most former Soviet republics in Central Europe and Asia; most north African countries, many LatAm countries, many of the smaller Asian countries, several Middle Eastern ones do. I'm not as well versed on Central and Southern Africa. The non-Scandi European countries are actually more of an outlier, globally. " Doesn't Switzerland too | |||
"Jeez. Russia has no beef with anyone. Reminder that it was us trying to put our boots on their borders through proxy Ukraine that got them startled. And we're still doing it now, funding the Ukrainians at our own expense like their success matters to us. It doesn't, we're just getting poorer and the war monsters are getting richer. Our fault that Russia invaded Ukraine! I've heard it all now
Well... Not you personally. You're just a nex-gal from Fabs with no real influence in the geopolitical scale of things. But I'm sure you're well read
John Mearsheimer did a more convincing job persuading me than Rishi Sunak or Biden did. There's plenty of material he presents on YouTube that you could look up. Putin has been consistent. The US/NATO hasn't."I would suggest you don't believe everything you watch on YouTube, you're better off looking at the facts. Russia invaded Ukraine around 10 years ago, NATO didn't become involved until they matched on Kyiv - so how you can think it's NATO's fault is nothing short of crazy! | |||
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"Can you imagine all of the so called tough guy scrotes of today who all dress in black and like to scare grannies on thier BMXs.. OK Armani, Nike, Deon-Berghaus and Nigel Northface, those over there are the enemy. They've destroyed the Wi-Fi and you must attack them to fix it. You can't hit them from behind when they aren't expecting it. You can't use those kitchen knives as they'll be shooting at you. They will hit you back. You don't outnumber them 6-1 so the odds are even for once. And they have had several clips around the lug hole growing up so don't have the immortality complex that you do.. Oh and they don't care what names you call them on Snapchat....... Attack.. If push come to shove, and the Russians or Chinese did hyperthetically invade, it would mostly be down to us in the age group of 35-60 to defend our families and way of life. I for one wouldn't be just standing there on my front garden waving them through, and saying you must stop that because it's not right.. Because they'd simply smash you in the face with their rifle and shoot you.. Head shot, Done. Its all well and good saying that you wouldn't join and would resist at all costs because you're not fighting for rich politicians who have made terrible decisions all their lives and made others suffer. But if another nations army was making its way down the M6 burning and wiping out every town on the way, saying you wouldn't fight or help out in some way and hoping others will fight it for you would just be writing your own obituary.. " exactly that you can hate the government as much as you want its not them you would fighting for if it came to boots on the ground in your own country the government would be the first lot in hiding. I've been out the army for a good few years now but if it came down to that I would fight for my land and my family without a second thought, god knows we couldn't rely on the gen Z snowflakes they get offended and start crying if you say the wrong words to them | |||
"Can you imagine all of the so called tough guy scrotes of today who all dress in black and like to scare grannies on thier BMXs.. OK Armani, Nike, Deon-Berghaus and Nigel Northface, those over there are the enemy. They've destroyed the Wi-Fi and you must attack them to fix it. You can't hit them from behind when they aren't expecting it. You can't use those kitchen knives as they'll be shooting at you. They will hit you back. You don't outnumber them 6-1 so the odds are even for once. And they have had several clips around the lug hole growing up so don't have the immortality complex that you do.. Oh and they don't care what names you call them on Snapchat....... Attack.. If push come to shove, and the Russians or Chinese did hyperthetically invade, it would mostly be down to us in the age group of 35-60 to defend our families and way of life. I for one wouldn't be just standing there on my front garden waving them through, and saying you must stop that because it's not right.. Because they'd simply smash you in the face with their rifle and shoot you.. Head shot, Done. Its all well and good saying that you wouldn't join and would resist at all costs because you're not fighting for rich politicians who have made terrible decisions all their lives and made others suffer. But if another nations army was making its way down the M6 burning and wiping out every town on the way, saying you wouldn't fight or help out in some way and hoping others will fight it for you would just be writing your own obituary.. " This did make me chuckle. So true. I don’t care the who whats and why’s. If someone’s coming for me and mine I’m there until the end fighting. | |||
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"They wouldn't take me so I'd go along with it
Mrs
Everyone seems pretty confident they wouldn't be conscripted and just as confident that those who would be are too useless to be any good. Basically we're doomed
Ps they definitely wouldn't have me. If my glasses got broken I'd be pressing the wrong button
I'm more than confident I'm certain.
Mrs
We can stay home and knit machine gun cosies "I like your thinking
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" Its all well and good saying that you wouldn't join and would resist at all costs because you're not fighting for rich politicians who have made terrible decisions all their lives and made others suffer. But if another nations army was making its way down the M6 burning and wiping out every town on the way, saying you wouldn't fight or help out in some way and hoping others will fight it for you would just be writing your own obituary.. " Why would they be wiping out every town on their way down the M6? | |||
"Realistically, if such a need ever arose I doubt we'd be asked for our opinion. I'd likely be assigned to some sort of Home Guard due to my age. Fortunately for us, but sadly for Eastern Europeans, if war moves West, it's them who will be conscripted first." Don’t tell em Pike | |||
"Plus in my opinion most of the teenagers couldn't hack it or cope. Awks, as they’ll be the people joining our future military anyway. Gbat Genuinely made me lol." They would make fantastic drone pilots given their game playing skills | |||
" Its all well and good saying that you wouldn't join and would resist at all costs because you're not fighting for rich politicians who have made terrible decisions all their lives and made others suffer. But if another nations army was making its way down the M6 burning and wiping out every town on the way, saying you wouldn't fight or help out in some way and hoping others will fight it for you would just be writing your own obituary.. Why would they be wiping out every town on their way down the M6?" It would take forever with all the road works | |||
