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By *hagTonight OP Man 48 weeks ago
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I watched an interesting program about human conditioning and I agree with them and I would say that, yes that there is an natural condition for humans to confirm, in the program they talked about the solomon ash and stanley milgram teaches this seminal psychology from the 1950s and how it even today it can produce the same tests as it is all about peer pressure and how humans are coping under it.
The program was a series of studies designed to investigate how social pressure from a majority group could influence an individual to conform under peer pressure, so even one who didnt think like the others eventually did the same thing, because of one thing, peer pressure, this test is regarded as a classic experiment in social psychology.
I find it interesting how we can change our mind under peer pressure and that is what they also talked about how the mass formation psychosis is linked to the same kind of conditioning.
What is your view about it and is conformity good or bad? I think that conformity can be regarded as either good or bad, it can limit ones choices too  |
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Partially agree with it. I believe we all have personal desires. As long as those desires don't go directly against the norms of the society, we try our best to confirm with the society as it gives us a massive advantage. |
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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago
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I’d say no
Potential why there’s so much mental health issues
I’d say we are unfortunately victims of being gaslighted by a very cleaver system that has done all the research needed to find out what happens when pressure is applied
Of course there’s always an element of the population that will never yield to this kind of gaslighting and goes fully against
But it’s a very interesting subject,I’d have liked to have watched that documentary
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I would say yes.
Most trans women who transition late in life do not pass and currently there is a resurgence of hate crime against us.
The decision to live full time as a woman (who doesn't pass easily) is certainly NOT conforming. The men I enjoy sex with are conformists and live in fear of being outed as trans "admirers". So I'm not their "dirty little secret", they are their own dirty little secret.
So I would consider myself a brave/foolish exception but yes, most people fear being different and do conform. |
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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago
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"I watched an interesting program about human conditioning and I agree with them and I would say that, yes that there is an natural condition for humans to confirm, in the program they talked about the solomon ash and stanley milgram teaches this seminal psychology from the 1950s and how it even today it can produce the same tests as it is all about peer pressure and how humans are coping under it.
The program was a series of studies designed to investigate how social pressure from a majority group could influence an individual to conform under peer pressure, so even one who didnt think like the others eventually did the same thing, because of one thing, peer pressure, this test is regarded as a classic experiment in social psychology.
I find it interesting how we can change our mind under peer pressure and that is what they also talked about how the mass formation psychosis is linked to the same kind of conditioning.
What is your view about it and is conformity good or bad? I think that conformity can be regarded as either good or bad, it can limit ones choices too "
Neither good nor bad, it just is part of our setup. It stems from the fear of being excluded from the group, which even in the not so distant past would mean death through being denied access to food, shelter, and protection of the group; or death by getting killed by the group turning against the non-conforming individuals. It is still very much a thing although it manifests itself in different guises and some groups are keen on killing the non-conformists. |
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By *hilloutMan 48 weeks ago
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Most people are conformist and are loathe to be on the opposite end of a general concensus. The more controversial the subject matter, the greater the pressure to conform and not be disagreeable.
The greatest example of this was Covid19 |
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By *hagTonight OP Man 48 weeks ago
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"Partially agree with it. I believe we all have personal desires. As long as those desires don't go directly against the norms of the society, we try our best to confirm with the society as it gives us a massive advantage."
You are right there, as it gives a massive advantage if one confirms too.
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It really depends on the situation.
I don't knowingly break any laws and will conform to social norms without any thought or difficulty.
At the same time I can't remember ever giving into peer pressure.
If anything I have done the opposite to what my peers have been doing.
I don't smoke or drink and never have done.
I didn't experiment with either growing up even though every single one of my friends and peers did.
My reasoning behind it had nothing to do with right or wrong and everything to do with just not wanting to and having the strength of character to not be influenced.
So yes I do conform but often I conform to my own principles rather than others. |
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"It really depends on the situation.
I don't knowingly break any laws and will conform to social norms without any thought or difficulty.
At the same time I can't remember ever giving into peer pressure.
If anything I have done the opposite to what my peers have been doing.
I don't smoke or drink and never have done.
I didn't experiment with either growing up even though every single one of my friends and peers did.
My reasoning behind it had nothing to do with right or wrong and everything to do with just not wanting to and having the strength of character to not be influenced.
So yes I do conform but often I conform to my own principles rather than others. "
Yeah I agree. I never ever did anything to fit in. When everyone else was smoking dodgy shit I didn’t want to so I didn’t. I have no issues with being the odd one out. |
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I think we all tell ourselves comforting stories.
That we do things because we're individuals, while other people do things because they conform or are irrational.
And it's just that: stories. People are often very keen to shout about how individualistic they are, even when they're doing whatever 99% of the population are doing, and even when they demonise people who do things differently.
I also think the Milgram experiments have been overblown in their significance in the psychological literature - and this too is part of our story. Researchers trying to twist research and research participants to try to explain the Nazis, ended up creating some more lore. |
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Going from the military service thread there are quite a few people who would like everyone to conform to the states idea of discipline, work ethic and tidyness.
There are very few real individuals in the world, those that are tend to get marginalised and bullied or feted as the next best thing ...then everyone copies them  |
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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago
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"I watched an interesting program about human conditioning and I agree with them and I would say that, yes that there is an natural condition for humans to confirm, in the program they talked about the solomon ash and stanley milgram teaches this seminal psychology from the 1950s and how it even today it can produce the same tests as it is all about peer pressure and how humans are coping under it.
The program was a series of studies designed to investigate how social pressure from a majority group could influence an individual to conform under peer pressure, so even one who didnt think like the others eventually did the same thing, because of one thing, peer pressure, this test is regarded as a classic experiment in social psychology.
I find it interesting how we can change our mind under peer pressure and that is what they also talked about how the mass formation psychosis is linked to the same kind of conditioning.
What is your view about it and is conformity good or bad? I think that conformity can be regarded as either good or bad, it can limit ones choices too "
Bad in every way for the individual.
Only ever good for governments, corporate dominance, global trends, globalisation, politics, wars, corruption, social media. |
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By *cuk4funCouple 48 weeks ago
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"Most people are conformist and are loathe to be on the opposite end of a general concensus. The more controversial the subject matter, the greater the pressure to conform and not be disagreeable.
The greatest example of this was Covid19"
Covid 19 was the greatest social experiment carried out on a world wide scale. When we look back now its with incredulity at what we were forced to do . 5 klm limits must have been the most illogical one of all. But ...millions obeyed without a word or question. Scary stuff. My motto now is trust no-one , suspect everyone ... |
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