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Outercourse. It's not always penetration
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By (user no longer on site) OP 39 weeks ago
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Outercourse" includes kissing, touching, erotic massage and using sex toys specifically intended towards satisfying a woman sexually.
Many of us equate "sex" with "intercourse" and use those words interchangeably. Yet highly satisfying sex doesn't have to be limited to penetration -- and doesn't even have to include it at all.
It's important that we get out of porno view towards sex, where a woman gives blowjob and then gets fucked hard.
Realistic sex should also include foreplay, sensual play, tantric experiences, going down on a woman gentle (not with grinding teeth) and able to play with her using our tongue and fingers. Many women achieve better orgasms when sex includes such acts.
I think it's important that these discussions happen that men learn not to just think from their horny dicks but also from a sensual mindset of making sure the woman enjoys equally and 360 degree. |
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By *eliWoman 39 weeks ago
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I do get what you're saying OP, really I do. Regardless of gender, sex should be a mutually enjoyable experience for everyone.
I don't particularly care for the term foreplay - I use it because it's easier for shared understanding but it's quite a heteronormative term isn't it? Fore... for what? Penetrative sex?
What about women enjoying women? I don't consider oral, mutual masturbation etc foreplay then. Anyway, it's an interesting post on a Saturday morning! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 39 weeks ago
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Thank you for your comment. Unfortunately English is not my first or even second language so I might have used terms that are not neutral for which I apologize. But indeed I intend the more neutral way to the experiences people have irrespective of the genders involved. |
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By *sWyldWoman 39 weeks ago
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There is a whole spectrum of fuckery to me. From the flirtation, kissing, touch, seduction, exploration, massage, oral, right through to intercourse in all it's forms, group sex, gangbangs, an orgy and everything in between.
I really don't care much for labels or to ever challenge what others do or don't enjoy.
So long as the person /people I'm with at the time are mutually involved and having a great time, then that's what matters.
Pleasure comes in many forms and I want to indulge in, explore and enjoy it all.
I don't want to be limited.
Sometimes I can get just as much pleasure from kissing the right person as I could from them actually being inside me.
Sometimes I want slow, sensual and intense, probably akin to making love and sometimes I need to be fuck hard.
And sometimes I want both in the same session.
There's no right or wrong. It's about feeling our way, reading reactions and communication. With a whole lot of chemistry, passion and enthusiasm thrown in.
I think sometimes people inadvertently judge what others do and some things are deemed boring. The whole concept of "vanilla" for example.
However what's vanilla to one, may not be to someone else.
What's deemed kinky or hard-core etc to you or I might not be to others.
It's all about perspective.
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"Outercourse" includes kissing, touching, erotic massage and using sex toys specifically intended towards satisfying a woman sexually.
Many of us equate "sex" with "intercourse" and use those words interchangeably. Yet highly satisfying sex doesn't have to be limited to penetration -- and doesn't even have to include it at all.
It's important that we get out of porno view towards sex, where a woman gives blowjob and then gets fucked hard.
Realistic sex should also include foreplay, sensual play, tantric experiences, going down on a woman gentle (not with grinding teeth) and able to play with her using our tongue and fingers. Many women achieve better orgasms when sex includes such acts.
I think it's important that these discussions happen that men learn not to just think from their horny dicks but also from a sensual mindset of making sure the woman enjoys equally and 360 degree. "
Oh my goodness another new title whats wrong with simple Soft Swing! We've used that discription for 12 years.  |
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I think it honestly depends what you like at any given point in time.
You try being over loverboy on a woman and you come across greasy. Try being over pushy and you're too forceful. Whichever in-between works, works. There's plenty to do but what someone likes one minute they wont necessarily like the next. |
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"There is a whole spectrum of fuckery to me. From the flirtation, kissing, touch, seduction, exploration, massage, oral, right through to intercourse in all it's forms, group sex, gangbangs, an orgy and everything in between.
I really don't care much for labels or to ever challenge what others do or don't enjoy.
So long as the person /people I'm with at the time are mutually involved and having a great time, then that's what matters.
Pleasure comes in many forms and I want to indulge in, explore and enjoy it all.
I don't want to be limited.
Sometimes I can get just as much pleasure from kissing the right person as I could from them actually being inside me.
Sometimes I want slow, sensual and intense, probably akin to making love and sometimes I need to be fuck hard.
And sometimes I want both in the same session.
There's no right or wrong. It's about feeling our way, reading reactions and communication. With a whole lot of chemistry, passion and enthusiasm thrown in.
I think sometimes people inadvertently judge what others do and some things are deemed boring. The whole concept of "vanilla" for example.
However what's vanilla to one, may not be to someone else.
What's deemed kinky or hard-core etc to you or I might not be to others.
It's all about perspective.
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All of this! Beautifully put 
Mrs TMN x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 39 weeks ago
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Thanks to everyone for their opinion. Very wise and good points by most of you. And indeed , it's just an opinion I shared. It's definitely not for everyone and everyone have their own taste and interest. In the end people involved consent to what makes them happy and good. That's more important. Apologies if anyone felt hurt by my opinion. |
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