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By *ackformore100 OP   Man 41 weeks ago

Tin town

What about it now? It's like watching Burnley playing football..one great result followed by 2 cricketing suicide ones..

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By (user no longer on site) 41 weeks ago

Trust the process. Pep didn’t turn city into champions overnight. In fact he was schooled in his first season.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple 41 weeks ago

Cumbria

High risk, high reward. The lack of pragmatism can be frustrating but when it works it really works.

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By (user no longer on site) 41 weeks ago

I still don't mind if know what to make of it. It doesn't seem sustainable as a way of controlled aggression seems to be a cricket version of "we'll just score more than the opposition". There are times it works and looks breathtaking, but other times it makes the batsmen look silly as if they can't read the situation of the game and play accordingly.

It was brought in to hide their defensive shortcomings, but defensive play is an essential part of test cricket that they simply can't hide with hitting out.

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By *inkyfun2013Couple 41 weeks ago

lewisham

They are playing the best team in the world on their own pitches with a novice spin attack. Bossing one game in three is pretty impressive.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man 40 weeks ago

Tin town


"Trust the process. Pep didn’t turn city into champions overnight. In fact he was schooled in his first season. "

What's the process though. Looks like removing all judgement and understanding of the 5 day game and just be aggressive at all times. Don't understand how anyone thinks we will win test matches by batting a total of 120 overs in two innings. Throwing wickets away needlessly isn't winning cricket... Nor fun to watch.

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By (user no longer on site) 40 weeks ago


"Trust the process. Pep didn’t turn city into champions overnight. In fact he was schooled in his first season.

What's the process though. Looks like removing all judgement and understanding of the 5 day game and just be aggressive at all times. Don't understand how anyone thinks we will win test matches by batting a total of 120 overs in two innings. Throwing wickets away needlessly isn't winning cricket... Nor fun to watch. "

Agree with everything apart from that last bit

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man 40 weeks ago

Tin town


"Trust the process. Pep didn’t turn city into champions overnight. In fact he was schooled in his first season.

What's the process though. Looks like removing all judgement and understanding of the 5 day game and just be aggressive at all times. Don't understand how anyone thinks we will win test matches by batting a total of 120 overs in two innings. Throwing wickets away needlessly isn't winning cricket... Nor fun to watch.

Agree with everything apart from that last bit "

Haha OK. I mean congrats to India they played well but didn't really have to break a sweat to take our last 18 wickets... And that jaiswals some find isn't he?

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By (user no longer on site) 40 weeks ago


"Trust the process. Pep didn’t turn city into champions overnight. In fact he was schooled in his first season.

What's the process though. Looks like removing all judgement and understanding of the 5 day game and just be aggressive at all times. Don't understand how anyone thinks we will win test matches by batting a total of 120 overs in two innings. Throwing wickets away needlessly isn't winning cricket... Nor fun to watch.

Agree with everything apart from that last bit

Haha OK. I mean congrats to India they played well but didn't really have to break a sweat to take our last 18 wickets... And that jaiswals some find isn't he? "

He's looking absolutely brilliant, but it seems at the minute, we have talented batsmen rolling off the production line although none of them have really stamped their authority in the test team. Jaiswal looked excellent but I hope we can see him replicate his form in an away series.

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By *awpleasureMan 40 weeks ago

Sutton Coldfield

Root has proven today that there is a time and place for bazball.

Root's century was a master class

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By (user no longer on site) 40 weeks ago

For me it's about playing without fear..if you remember the 90's 80's there was so many players got dropped after 2 or 3 tests then left out for a year etc.

That said, it's about reading the game situation too.

Root in the last test didn't, nor did anyone after him.

Today he read it perfectly and batted with confidence, class and purpose without going off the rails.

Top innings

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By *awpleasureMan 40 weeks ago

Sutton Coldfield


"For me it's about playing without fear..if you remember the 90's 80's there was so many players got dropped after 2 or 3 tests then left out for a year etc.

That said, it's about reading the game situation too.

Root in the last test didn't, nor did anyone after him.

Today he read it perfectly and batted with confidence, class and purpose without going off the rails.

Top innings"

Yes sticking with Crawley proved to be the right call but so many wanted him out of the team.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man 40 weeks ago

Tin town


"For me it's about playing without fear..if you remember the 90's 80's there was so many players got dropped after 2 or 3 tests then left out for a year etc.

That said, it's about reading the game situation too.

Root in the last test didn't, nor did anyone after him.

Today he read it perfectly and batted with confidence, class and purpose without going off the rails.

Top innings"

So..just like he's batted for what? 12 years? Him and foakes steadied the ship by playing test cricket... What's in front of them. Be interesting to see what the Indians do on the same track

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By (user no longer on site) 40 weeks ago

In the first 12 months I think a lot of them got too swept up with the hype.

As did most of the journos, commentators and in fairness most of us too.

Playing "normally" will still win games.

Agree with your later comment, let's see where we are after both teams batted

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man 38 weeks ago

Tin town

.. Here we go again. Cricketing batting suicide.

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By (user no longer on site) 38 weeks ago

Bazball is about entertainment not results.

Which is exactly how test cricket will be regarded when it's inevitably relegated to become an exhibition game within the next ten years.

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By *r Black 85Man 38 weeks ago

nottingham

I think the one good thing to come from bazball is that the players have wayyyy more confidence than ever. They believe they can win every game they play in

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By (user no longer on site) 38 weeks ago


"I think the one good thing to come from bazball is that the players have wayyyy more confidence than ever. They believe they can win every game they play in"

Yeah, but it's confidence that's crossed the line to arrogance where apart from Root, they now actually believe they're good international batsmen when really, the system implemented has done well to cover up the flaws in their technique.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man 38 weeks ago

Tin town


"Bazball is about entertainment not results.

Which is exactly how test cricket will be regarded when it's inevitably relegated to become an exhibition game within the next ten years."

Far from rescuing test cricket, this rubbish will be the final nail in the coffin. Nobody is going to travel and watch a 2 and a half day tests match. Absolute garbage. The fact that most of our batsmen excuse their calamitous shot making with "that's the way we play" with no cognicence of game situation shows how they believe their own hype. All test teams have to do is let us get ourselves out. India didn't have to break into a sweat in any single session, with one exception. Our poor bowlers never get a rest as we never bat longer than 50 overs.

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By *abtastic Mr FoxMan 38 weeks ago

A den in the Glen

If anyone can unlock India on home soil, you can bottle it up and sell it.

England's heads have gone down once the series was lost and in the manner it was. They just wanted to finish and bugger off home.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man 38 weeks ago

Tin town


"If anyone can unlock India on home soil, you can bottle it up and sell it.

England's heads have gone down once the series was lost and in the manner it was. They just wanted to finish and bugger off home."

Possibly, but people pay money to watch

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By *appycouple300Couple 38 weeks ago

North Dorset


"High risk, high reward. The lack of pragmatism can be frustrating but when it works it really works."

B it they must adapt itt for conditions. It looks brain dead in India

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By (user no longer on site) 38 weeks ago


"Bazball is about entertainment not results.

Which is exactly how test cricket will be regarded when it's inevitably relegated to become an exhibition game within the next ten years.

Far from rescuing test cricket, this rubbish will be the final nail in the coffin. Nobody is going to travel and watch a 2 and a half day tests match. Absolute garbage. The fact that most of our batsmen excuse their calamitous shot making with "that's the way we play" with no cognicence of game situation shows how they believe their own hype. All test teams have to do is let us get ourselves out. India didn't have to break into a sweat in any single session, with one exception. Our poor bowlers never get a rest as we never bat longer than 50 overs. "

That's exactly what I think.

By demonstrating the results don't matter they're giving the message that the format doesn't matter.

To be fair it's pretty much a dead format anyway. They're just making the demise interesting.

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By *ackformore100 OP   Man 38 weeks ago

Tin town


"Bazball is about entertainment not results.

Which is exactly how test cricket will be regarded when it's inevitably relegated to become an exhibition game within the next ten years.

Far from rescuing test cricket, this rubbish will be the final nail in the coffin. Nobody is going to travel and watch a 2 and a half day tests match. Absolute garbage. The fact that most of our batsmen excuse their calamitous shot making with "that's the way we play" with no cognicence of game situation shows how they believe their own hype. All test teams have to do is let us get ourselves out. India didn't have to break into a sweat in any single session, with one exception. Our poor bowlers never get a rest as we never bat longer than 50 overs.

That's exactly what I think.

By demonstrating the results don't matter they're giving the message that the format doesn't matter.

To be fair it's pretty much a dead format anyway. They're just making the demise interesting."

I was trying to explain test cricket to a couple of Vietnam vets in florida a few years ago. The fact you could play for 5 days and draw blew their minds. It's still the most compelling and testing format of the game. Shame there doesn't seem to be much appreciation for it anymore.

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By *awpleasureMan 38 weeks ago

Sutton Coldfield


"Bazball is about entertainment not results.

Which is exactly how test cricket will be regarded when it's inevitably relegated to become an exhibition game within the next ten years.

Far from rescuing test cricket, this rubbish will be the final nail in the coffin. Nobody is going to travel and watch a 2 and a half day tests match. Absolute garbage. The fact that most of our batsmen excuse their calamitous shot making with "that's the way we play" with no cognicence of game situation shows how they believe their own hype. All test teams have to do is let us get ourselves out. India didn't have to break into a sweat in any single session, with one exception. Our poor bowlers never get a rest as we never bat longer than 50 overs.

That's exactly what I think.

By demonstrating the results don't matter they're giving the message that the format doesn't matter.

To be fair it's pretty much a dead format anyway. They're just making the demise interesting.

I was trying to explain test cricket to a couple of Vietnam vets in florida a few years ago. The fact you could play for 5 days and draw blew their minds. It's still the most compelling and testing format of the game. Shame there doesn't seem to be much appreciation for it anymore. "

Some times a draw can be so exciting.

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By *ash0000Man 38 weeks ago

Southwest


"Bazball is about entertainment not results.

Which is exactly how test cricket will be regarded when it's inevitably relegated to become an exhibition game within the next ten years.

Far from rescuing test cricket, this rubbish will be the final nail in the coffin. Nobody is going to travel and watch a 2 and a half day tests match. Absolute garbage. The fact that most of our batsmen excuse their calamitous shot making with "that's the way we play" with no cognicence of game situation shows how they believe their own hype. All test teams have to do is let us get ourselves out. India didn't have to break into a sweat in any single session, with one exception. Our poor bowlers never get a rest as we never bat longer than 50 overs. "

Totally agree

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