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"Too far, do we not have freedom of speach anymore, has fab lost its sense of humour are you human or robots, the same applies to Health and Safety at work it seems you can't do anything without signing your life away,so that anything goes wrong its your fault "You have freedom of speech. You can say pretty much whatever you want. What you don’t have is freedom of consequence. | |||
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"Bar going against forum and site rules, who is preventing you typing out whatever you want, Fred? You have freedom of speech. You just may not like people disagreeing or holding you to account if they don’t like what you say. That’s freedom of speech for them too though, surely?" well yes to a degree but humour has no bounds surely?  | |||
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"Bar going against forum and site rules, who is preventing you typing out whatever you want, Fred? You have freedom of speech. You just may not like people disagreeing or holding you to account if they don’t like what you say. That’s freedom of speech for them too though, surely?" Exactly this. Not everyone is going to find you funny OP. It doesn't mean they're robots, nor any other inane slur. I'm certain you're not squirting with laughter with every attempt at humour on here so why would it be different the other way around? As much as you can post your take on humour, others can disagree with it. | |||
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"Bar going against forum and site rules, who is preventing you typing out whatever you want, Fred? You have freedom of speech. You just may not like people disagreeing or holding you to account if they don’t like what you say. That’s freedom of speech for them too though, surely?well yes to a degree but humour has no bounds surely? "That’s your opinion. I disagree. Look, freedom of speech! | |||
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"Yeah Fab forums is basically an outrage competition which has a skew in terms of how popular you are on here " No it isn’t. No it doesn’t. Stop capping. You sound mad about it. | |||
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"Bar going against forum and site rules, who is preventing you typing out whatever you want, Fred? You have freedom of speech. You just may not like people disagreeing or holding you to account if they don’t like what you say. That’s freedom of speech for them too though, surely?well yes to a degree but humour has no bounds surely? "Yes, that's why no one ever objected to babies in a blender jokes, and why we're all making them about the conflict in the middle east. | |||
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"I just what I think and if someone doesn't like it then thats their problem not mine
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"I hope you’re not upset that people didn’t like your abolition of slxvery thread. " Most people liked it, Fred. So cheer up. You only got called out by like 2/3 people. Hardly a pile on or infringement of your freedom of speech. The thread is still up. Nothing was removed from it. You can say whatever you like | |||
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"I feel like freedom no longer exists not just in humour but in peoples attitudes, we are constantly monitored and i for one don't like it one bit, people try to put you on a guilt trip but i do not succumb to it, argue amongst yourselves "Nah, what's happened is the lower classes got uppity and started arguing back. Don't dish it out if you can't take it  | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. I look at it like this. I like seeing different opinions, they don’t all sit comfortably with me, I like people to be passionate over something that may effect them daily, that said we all, or we should know where the proverbial line is and it becomes antagonistic I was recently called out because I told someone I had car insurance with Sheila’s Wheels and it was for woman only. My reply was that when I put my details in it clearly stated I was male. I was told by them that I shouldn’t have taken the policy. " lol | |||
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"I feel like freedom no longer exists not just in humour but in peoples attitudes, we are constantly monitored and i for one don't like it one bit, people try to put you on a guilt trip but i do not succumb to it, argue amongst yourselves "Don’t post on the internet if you want everyone to agree with you | |||
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"My heart bleeds. I suspect it would "Thought you were going, Fred? | |||
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"There was more outrage about submarine jokes last year than most other topics in the forums I think the SOH hasn’t changed in here at all "agreed Those poor poor billionaires. Oh noes! | |||
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"I just what I think and if someone doesn't like it then thats their problem not mine
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Oh god I don’t. I can’t be bothered with it all.
I go by “know your audience”. Hence I don’t joke much on here "true | |||
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"We live in a society. For everyone to have freedom of speech, this also involves freedom to respond. I feel like "freedom of speech" has evolved to become "freedom to be free from criticism" and "freedom to lambast anyone who disagrees with me as an emotional tyrant for daring to disagree with me" I think this is something much more old fashioned - people who dish it out can't take it, and want to be protected while claiming that they're superior." definatly this | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. " There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. | |||
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"Too far, do we not have freedom of speach anymore, has fab lost its sense of humour are you human or robots, the same applies to Health and Safety at work it seems you can't do anything without signing your life away,so that anything goes wrong its your fault
You have freedom of speech. You can say pretty much whatever you want.
What you don’t have is freedom of consequence. "Precisely! | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex." There’s actually nine. | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. " I need to speak to the legal firm who took the training!! | |||
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"I quite like the health and safety things that reduce the likelihood of people dying or being seriously injured because Joe Bloggs and Co. can't be arsed to provide PPE or consider alternative ways to do things. If we're so outraged at workplace H&S, perhaps we should just accept the practices in places like Qatar, which we Westerners seemed to wholly disagree with. Perhaps it's okay for people to be paid peanuts to build expensive stadia in boiling hot weather, with no consideration for safety and if they die, well, it's just how it is. Or is it?! I like not dying at work "Yeah, imagine valuing the health of employees. This is fascism. Back in my day I lost three of my limbs before what you softies call "minimum working age". Pah. I also walked uphill both ways in the blazing snow to school. | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. I look at it like this. I like seeing different opinions, they don’t all sit comfortably with me, I like people to be passionate over something that may effect them daily, that said we all, or we should know where the proverbial line is and it becomes antagonistic I was recently called out because I told someone I had car insurance with Sheila’s Wheels and it was for woman only. My reply was that when I put my details in it clearly stated I was male. I was told by them that I shouldn’t have taken the policy. " Examples of what can and can't be said: "Mrs KC is a wheelchair user, so we need to make sure she can get into this external training venue" - this is a YES "Mrs KC is wheelchair bound, the external venue is up a flight of stairs, she'll just have to like it or lump it" - this is a NO It's similarity straightforward with most other things. | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. " I counted 8 | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I counted 8" You’re right, it’s eight, I can’t count. But I knew it wasn’t six! ?? | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I counted 8" Here are the nine: age gender reassignment being married or in a civil partnership being pregnant or on maternity leave disability race including colour, nationality, ethnic or national origin religion or belief sex sexual orientation | |||
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"I liked what Neil Gaiman said about replacing the term 'political correctness' with 'treating people with respect'. It's treating people with respect gone mad! Has treating people with respect gone too far? J" I like this too, but I think there are two problems with this. One is that when people have power taken away from them, they mistake it for oppression. So they're being oppressed because they can no longer be horrible to others without consequences. The other is that there are two meanings of respect. One is "treated as a human being" and the other is "treated as a valid authority." Think about it when someone like a politician says "treat me with respect and I'll treat you with respect". What they're saying is "treat me as an authority and I'll grant you minimum human status" So we end up in a position where people believe that they're oppressed for having to treat others below what they'd consider the bare minimum for how they'd be treated. | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I counted 8 You’re right, it’s eight, I can’t count. But I knew it wasn’t six! ??" Nope. You’ve written 8, but it’s still 9 in the Equality Act 2010. You missed sexual orientation. | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I need to speak to the legal firm who took the training!!" Yea you probably should. I train people on this as part of my job. It’s easily available information - and should always be written exactly as the EA2010 states. There’s no room for personal opinion here. | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I counted 8 You’re right, it’s eight, I can’t count. But I knew it wasn’t six! ?? Nope. You’ve written 8, but it’s still 9 in the Equality Act 2010. You missed sexual orientation. " Fuck my life. I copied and pasted the list but missed the last line because I’m a twat. | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I counted 8 You’re right, it’s eight, I can’t count. But I knew it wasn’t six! ??" I thought there was some correctness going on from one of you.. I used all my toes comparing both | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I need to speak to the legal firm who took the training!! Yea you probably should. I train people on this as part of my job. It’s easily available information - and should always be written exactly as the EA2010 states. There’s no room for personal opinion here." I don’t think I’ve given personal opinion but thank you | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I counted 8 You’re right, it’s eight, I can’t count. But I knew it wasn’t six! ?? Nope. You’ve written 8, but it’s still 9 in the Equality Act 2010. You missed sexual orientation. Fuck my life. I copied and pasted the list but missed the last line because I’m a twat. "No, all good. | |||
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"I liked what Neil Gaiman said about replacing the term 'political correctness' with 'treating people with respect'. It's treating people with respect gone mad! Has treating people with respect gone too far? J" This.
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I need to speak to the legal firm who took the training!! Yea you probably should. I train people on this as part of my job. It’s easily available information - and should always be written exactly as the EA2010 states. There’s no room for personal opinion here." Thems the rules. | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I need to speak to the legal firm who took the training!! Yea you probably should. I train people on this as part of my job. It’s easily available information - and should always be written exactly as the EA2010 states. There’s no room for personal opinion here. Thems the rules." It's quite literally the law, so yes, it's the rules. The Equality Act 2010 | |||
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"I liked what Neil Gaiman said about replacing the term 'political correctness' with 'treating people with respect'. It's treating people with respect gone mad! Has treating people with respect gone too far? J I like this too, but I think there are two problems with this. One is that when people have power taken away from them, they mistake it for oppression. So they're being oppressed because they can no longer be horrible to others without consequences. The other is that there are two meanings of respect. One is "treated as a human being" and the other is "treated as a valid authority." Think about it when someone like a politician says "treat me with respect and I'll treat you with respect". What they're saying is "treat me as an authority and I'll grant you minimum human status" So we end up in a position where people believe that they're oppressed for having to treat others below what they'd consider the bare minimum for how they'd be treated." Very good point about respect. Have discussed that very point with a colleague when they thought they should automatically get treated with respect just because they're an adult. While they simultaneously show no respect to the kids we work with. 
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"Serious question Why’s it called “political correctness” Surely then it would be dependent on which way you politically align especially if more to the “far” sides. As I say a serious question, I suppose I could Google it " It’s the idea of acting in a way to avoid any and all possible offences or disagreements or misunderstanding Kinda like how a politician will say whatever they can get votes Politically correct talk is talk that’s meant to be as limp as possible | |||
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"I agree Fred, the forum folk used to be able to distinguish between humour and insult. Now there are folk on here who will find fault with anything that is said. And no, it's not always about disagreeing with the OP. If he asks for opinions, fine. Give them. Free speech & all that. But the irritants who pick apart every word typed until they find something someone - usually someone other than themselves - finds offensive is just tiresome. Like Nora, I rarely joke on here anymore. In fact, I rarely post anymore.... " And you’re entitled to think and say that, and exercise your choice and freedom to post or not post. I’m sorry I disagree with your opinion of humour though and exercise my right and freedom to say that. and that makes me “an irritant”. Sighs. | |||
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"Freedom of speech works both ways. Recently I sat on a days training with employment lawyers of what can and can’t be said in the work place. It brought up the 6 protected categories Race Religion Sexuality Gender Age Disability The problem is, for me, is that people are now confused over what can and can’t be said. There are actually seven protected characteristics according to the equality act 2010. It’s also important to note that sex is protected but gender isn’t, it’s religion AND belief, and that gender reassignment is a protected characteristic. Age. Disability. Gender reassignment. Marriage and civil partnership. Pregnancy and maternity. Race. Religion or belief. Sex. There’s actually nine. I need to speak to the legal firm who took the training!! Yea you probably should. I train people on this as part of my job. It’s easily available information - and should always be written exactly as the EA2010 states. There’s no room for personal opinion here. Thems the rules. It's quite literally the law, so yes, it's the rules. The Equality Act 2010 "Until they are updated, as is the case with gender I'd suspect? | |||
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"I agree Fred, the forum folk used to be able to distinguish between humour and insult. Now there are folk on here who will find fault with anything that is said. And no, it's not always about disagreeing with the OP. If he asks for opinions, fine. Give them. Free speech & all that. But the irritants who pick apart every word typed until they find something someone - usually someone other than themselves - finds offensive is just tiresome. Like Nora, I rarely joke on here anymore. In fact, I rarely post anymore.... And you’re entitled to think and say that, and exercise your choice and freedom to post or not post. I’m sorry I disagree with your opinion of humour though and exercise my right and freedom to say that. and that makes me “an irritant”. Sighs. " More time, I don’t care. The ones that will find you an irritant are so irrelevant to our lives. And they don’t matter. Sure I have to step back to realise it but once I do, I keep it moving | |||
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"I agree Fred, the forum folk used to be able to distinguish between humour and insult. Now there are folk on here who will find fault with anything that is said. And no, it's not always about disagreeing with the OP. If he asks for opinions, fine. Give them. Free speech & all that. But the irritants who pick apart every word typed until they find something someone - usually someone other than themselves - finds offensive is just tiresome. Like Nora, I rarely joke on here anymore. In fact, I rarely post anymore.... " Exactly. It’s like they’re sitting there waiting! . It’s actually quite funny.
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"Just be you OP, say what you want, use your humour, if people are offended by it let them be offended you'll never please everyone. Just do you and say what you wish. There was nothing wrong with your previous thread it was humour, some will get it, some won't and some would be offended by a lettuce, those people aren't worth worrying about. Mrs " | |||
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"I liked what Neil Gaiman said about replacing the term 'political correctness' with 'treating people with respect'. It's treating people with respect gone mad! Has treating people with respect gone too far? J I like this too, but I think there are two problems with this. One is that when people have power taken away from them, they mistake it for oppression. So they're being oppressed because they can no longer be horrible to others without consequences. The other is that there are two meanings of respect. One is "treated as a human being" and the other is "treated as a valid authority." Think about it when someone like a politician says "treat me with respect and I'll treat you with respect". What they're saying is "treat me as an authority and I'll grant you minimum human status" So we end up in a position where people believe that they're oppressed for having to treat others below what they'd consider the bare minimum for how they'd be treated. Very good point about respect. Have discussed that very point with a colleague when they thought they should automatically get treated with respect just because they're an adult. While they simultaneously show no respect to the kids we work with.
J"This is just my mental model, but I start from a position of grace and civility until I find myself in a position where I can no longer sustain it. But that's a gift, a social lubricant, not an entitlement - and not one that comes with age, skin colour, sexuality, gender/sex, etc. | |||
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"Me walking to HR because my joke was so funny they want to hear it too lol xx" | |||
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"People on the forum have been upset in the past about people saying Black Lives Matter because it doesn’t say ‘All’ and they’ve been upset about Dave singing a song called Black and talking about being Black. Offended so easily. Sad stuff. " amazing how their side are never the offended ones. Almost as if they're redefined the word to suit their delicate sensibilities | |||
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"People on the forum have been upset in the past about people saying Black Lives Matter because it doesn’t say ‘All’ and they’ve been upset about Dave singing a song called Black and talking about being Black. Offended so easily. Sad stuff. amazing how their side are never the offended ones. Almost as if they're redefined the word to suit their delicate sensibilities "The original snowflakes. I respect the way they’ve flipped it. | |||
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"I agree Fred, the forum folk used to be able to distinguish between humour and insult. Now there are folk on here who will find fault with anything that is said. And no, it's not always about disagreeing with the OP. If he asks for opinions, fine. Give them. Free speech & all that. But the irritants who pick apart every word typed until they find something someone - usually someone other than themselves - finds offensive is just tiresome. Like Nora, I rarely joke on here anymore. In fact, I rarely post anymore.... And you’re entitled to think and say that, and exercise your choice and freedom to post or not post. I’m sorry I disagree with your opinion of humour though and exercise my right and freedom to say that. and that makes me “an irritant”. Sighs. " Ah, but Estella, you don't know my humour so you don't know if you'll be offended by it Unless Ive unknowingly offended you in the past...? Xxx
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"Just be you OP, say what you want, use your humour, if people are offended by it let them be offended you'll never please everyone. Just do you and say what you wish. There was nothing wrong with your previous thread it was humour, some will get it, some won't and some would be offended by a lettuce, those people aren't worth worrying about. Mrs "I just had to look through the ops threads to find what the fuss was
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"Just be you OP, say what you want, use your humour, if people are offended by it let them be offended you'll never please everyone. Just do you and say what you wish. There was nothing wrong with your previous thread it was humour, some will get it, some won't and some would be offended by a lettuce, those people aren't worth worrying about. Mrs
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"I agree Fred, the forum folk used to be able to distinguish between humour and insult. Now there are folk on here who will find fault with anything that is said. And no, it's not always about disagreeing with the OP. If he asks for opinions, fine. Give them. Free speech & all that. But the irritants who pick apart every word typed until they find something someone - usually someone other than themselves - finds offensive is just tiresome. Like Nora, I rarely joke on here anymore. In fact, I rarely post anymore.... And you’re entitled to think and say that, and exercise your choice and freedom to post or not post. I’m sorry I disagree with your opinion of humour though and exercise my right and freedom to say that. and that makes me “an irritant”. Sighs. Ah, but Estella, you don't know my humour so you don't know if you'll be offended by it Unless Ive unknowingly offended you in the past...? Xxx
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"I agree Fred, the forum folk used to be able to distinguish between humour and insult. Now there are folk on here who will find fault with anything that is said. And no, it's not always about disagreeing with the OP. If he asks for opinions, fine. Give them. Free speech & all that. But the irritants who pick apart every word typed until they find something someone - usually someone other than themselves - finds offensive is just tiresome. Like Nora, I rarely joke on here anymore. In fact, I rarely post anymore.... Exactly. It’s like they’re sitting there waiting! . It’s actually quite funny.
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"I agree Fred, the forum folk used to be able to distinguish between humour and insult. Now there are folk on here who will find fault with anything that is said. And no, it's not always about disagreeing with the OP. If he asks for opinions, fine. Give them. Free speech & all that. But the irritants who pick apart every word typed until they find something someone - usually someone other than themselves - finds offensive is just tiresome. Like Nora, I rarely joke on here anymore. In fact, I rarely post anymore.... Exactly. It’s like they’re sitting there waiting! . It’s actually quite funny.
Nice to see you! Not seen you much on here anymore x
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"I agree Fred, the forum folk used to be able to distinguish between humour and insult. Now there are folk on here who will find fault with anything that is said. And no, it's not always about disagreeing with the OP. If he asks for opinions, fine. Give them. Free speech & all that. But the irritants who pick apart every word typed until they find something someone - usually someone other than themselves - finds offensive is just tiresome. Like Nora, I rarely joke on here anymore. In fact, I rarely post anymore.... And you’re entitled to think and say that, and exercise your choice and freedom to post or not post. I’m sorry I disagree with your opinion of humour though and exercise my right and freedom to say that. and that makes me “an irritant”. Sighs. Ah, but Estella, you don't know my humour so you don't know if you'll be offended by it Unless Ive unknowingly offended you in the past...? Xxx
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"Just be you OP, say what you want, use your humour, if people are offended by it let them be offended you'll never please everyone. Just do you and say what you wish. There was nothing wrong with your previous thread it was humour, some will get it, some won't and some would be offended by a lettuce, those people aren't worth worrying about. Mrs
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"I agree Fred, the forum folk used to be able to distinguish between humour and insult. Now there are folk on here who will find fault with anything that is said. And no, it's not always about disagreeing with the OP. If he asks for opinions, fine. Give them. Free speech & all that. But the irritants who pick apart every word typed until they find something someone - usually someone other than themselves - finds offensive is just tiresome. Like Nora, I rarely joke on here anymore. In fact, I rarely post anymore.... And you’re entitled to think and say that, and exercise your choice and freedom to post or not post. I’m sorry I disagree with your opinion of humour though and exercise my right and freedom to say that. and that makes me “an irritant”. Sighs. Ah, but Estella, you don't know my humour so you don't know if you'll be offended by it Unless Ive unknowingly offended you in the past...? Xxx
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" Well you do say you don’t like the Beatles.
Ah. You got me there. Guilty as charged Has Moon Grey Cat ever forgiven me for that, I wonder? Xx"Who knows with him?
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" Well you do say you don’t like the Beatles.
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Nice to see you, and I’m just disagreeing with you - no offence taken here. Hope you’re well. "I know lovely. Think we know each other well enough to know we're pretty decent people
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"Too far, do we not have freedom of speach anymore, has fab lost its sense of humour are you human or robots, the same applies to Health and Safety at work it seems you can't do anything without signing your life away,so that anything goes wrong its your fault "Absolute textbook. May I ask, how long was the curing process on this opinion? | |||
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"Yesterday someone wrote that the reputation of the army was damaged because of Iraq. This was my answer Iraq did not harm the reputation of the military at all. It proved that serious underfunding sent soldiers to war in vehicles designed for Northern Ireland which when hit by mines cost lives or missing limbs. It proved that the helicopters we were flying some literally fell out of the sky and needed whole engine replacements because they were never designed to be in that heat. It proved that many military had to buy their own equipment as what was issued was not satisfactory and a whole updated rifle as they didn’t work in that environment It created loss of life and multiple life physical and mental injuries where many cannot get any help from the government that sent them. I stood in someone’s office in 2004 and kn his floor were about 40 files of soldiers who had life changing injuries and that was one months worth. Time and time again the military is called upon not just for war or peace keeping but to cover fire strikes, hospitals during covid, driving refuse trucks, supplying help to areas in this country which are flooded, let alone all the counter T errorism work they do. The forces reputation was not damaged, the people who send them and cut their costs yearly was So I go back to something I said yesterday. People will always have opinions and they are right or wrong whether that’s because it’s something they know nothing about but feel they have to comment or are too ignorant to want to learn or really just like causing an argument. " Hi- me who said that- and I’m not undergoing your lived experience. The reputation of the people that sent us into that war was ofc harmed. But what I meant by that comment was in turn, plenty of people that I’ve spoken to and have read following the recent yung filly situation, feel like the military is not worth joining because of these things. I’m not suggesting anything other than that. You’re free to disagree lol. I didn’t reply to you yesterday because it’s not that deep to me | |||
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"I agree that you have freedom of speech, but having said that, it feels like not everyone can say or critise back the same way as someone else could, depending on the topic, who else thinks this? On here. Very much so, Shag. I really can't be bothered with faceless people on the Internet. I just roll my eyes and laugh. But in real life, yes I will always challenge people. "Hi red, that is good to challange them too and yes, you are right there, here certain users get away with more than others do. | |||
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"Yesterday someone wrote that the reputation of the army was damaged because of Iraq. This was my answer Iraq did not harm the reputation of the military at all. It proved that serious underfunding sent soldiers to war in vehicles designed for Northern Ireland which when hit by mines cost lives or missing limbs. It proved that the helicopters we were flying some literally fell out of the sky and needed whole engine replacements because they were never designed to be in that heat. It proved that many military had to buy their own equipment as what was issued was not satisfactory and a whole updated rifle as they didn’t work in that environment It created loss of life and multiple life physical and mental injuries where many cannot get any help from the government that sent them. I stood in someone’s office in 2004 and kn his floor were about 40 files of soldiers who had life changing injuries and that was one months worth. Time and time again the military is called upon not just for war or peace keeping but to cover fire strikes, hospitals during covid, driving refuse trucks, supplying help to areas in this country which are flooded, let alone all the counter T errorism work they do. The forces reputation was not damaged, the people who send them and cut their costs yearly was So I go back to something I said yesterday. People will always have opinions and they are right or wrong whether that’s because it’s something they know nothing about but feel they have to comment or are too ignorant to want to learn or really just like causing an argument. Hi- me who said that- and I’m not undergoing your lived experience. The reputation of the people that sent us into that war was ofc harmed. But what I meant by that comment was in turn, plenty of people that I’ve spoken to and have read following the recent yung filly situation, feel like the military is not worth joining because of these things. I’m not suggesting anything other than that. You’re free to disagree lol. I didn’t reply to you yesterday because it’s not that deep to me "And here is exactly my point. “It’s not that deep to you”. Sadly what people say or post and I admit sometimes for effect is not that deep to them either. | |||
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" And here is exactly my point. “It’s not that deep to you”. Sadly what people say or post and I admit sometimes for effect is not that deep to them either. " Exactly it’s not. But rather than undermine your experience, or make a joke about it I didn’t say anything. I didn’t call you sensitive. I didn’t say you were emotional or any of the other stuff directed at people in the forums for talking about what they care about. I took on board what you said and didn’t comment further. In contrast, read any thread on here that mentions race and see a bunch of people that have never experienced racism or read a book about it arguing to the death that their university of life degree makes them experts. | |||
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" And here is exactly my point. “It’s not that deep to you”. Sadly what people say or post and I admit sometimes for effect is not that deep to them either. Exactly it’s not. But rather than undermine your experience, or make a joke about it I didn’t say anything. I didn’t call you sensitive. I didn’t say you were emotional or any of the other stuff directed at people in the forums for talking about what they care about. I took on board what you said and didn’t comment further. In contrast, read any thread on here that mentions race and see a bunch of people that have never experienced racism or read a book about it arguing to the death that their university of life degree makes them experts. "In fact in my original post I acknowledged how awful what was being said was for veterans. | |||
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" And here is exactly my point. “It’s not that deep to you”. Sadly what people say or post and I admit sometimes for effect is not that deep to them either. Exactly it’s not. But rather than undermine your experience, or make a joke about it I didn’t say anything. I didn’t call you sensitive. I didn’t say you were emotional or any of the other stuff directed at people in the forums for talking about what they care about. I took on board what you said and didn’t comment further. In contrast, read any thread on here that mentions race and see a bunch of people that have never experienced racism or read a book about it arguing to the death that their university of life degree makes them experts. "Yeah, there's a very uneven level of expectations for respect. Some people are expected to give a lot of deference and get no respect - and vice versa. Fuck that. | |||
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" And here is exactly my point. “It’s not that deep to you”. Sadly what people say or post and I admit sometimes for effect is not that deep to them either. Exactly it’s not. But rather than undermine your experience, or make a joke about it I didn’t say anything. I didn’t call you sensitive. I didn’t say you were emotional or any of the other stuff directed at people in the forums for talking about what they care about. I took on board what you said and didn’t comment further. In contrast, read any thread on here that mentions race and see a bunch of people that have never experienced racism or read a book about it arguing to the death that their university of life degree makes them experts. "Have I said anything to you or on any of the threads that you pertain to above? | |||
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"Bar going against forum and site rules, who is preventing you typing out whatever you want, Fred? You have freedom of speech. You just may not like people disagreeing or holding you to account if they don’t like what you say. That’s freedom of speech for them too though, surely?well yes to a degree but humour has no bounds surely? "It does have bounds. If the joker and the subject of the joke both laugh it's humour. If only the joker laughs it's usually bullying rather than humour. | |||
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"Bar going against forum and site rules, who is preventing you typing out whatever you want, Fred? You have freedom of speech. You just may not like people disagreeing or holding you to account if they don’t like what you say. That’s freedom of speech for them too though, surely?well yes to a degree but humour has no bounds surely?
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" And here is exactly my point. “It’s not that deep to you”. Sadly what people say or post and I admit sometimes for effect is not that deep to them either. Exactly it’s not. But rather than undermine your experience, or make a joke about it I didn’t say anything. I didn’t call you sensitive. I didn’t say you were emotional or any of the other stuff directed at people in the forums for talking about what they care about. I took on board what you said and didn’t comment further. In contrast, read any thread on here that mentions race and see a bunch of people that have never experienced racism or read a book about it arguing to the death that their university of life degree makes them experts.
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"Anyone addressing the Health and Safety aspect of this thread...... Anyone? cmon Health and Safety in the workplace is paramount don't you think? "Was dealt with up there, Fred ^^ | |||
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"I'd say it's more lost the power of debate, so many "my way, or the highway" opinions. Being able to see another person's point of view, doesn't mean that you have to agree with it. jumping on the high horse, to quash others differing opinions, is too easy for many "Exactly too many people start talking backwards from the idea they are right instead of figuring out what they have in common and working towards compromise. I notice also that this whole political correctness thing seems to only result in consequences for one particular group of people while others say things that they themselves should call out.I think we all know who I’m talking about | |||
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"Too far, do we not have freedom of speach anymore, has fab lost its sense of humour are you human or robots, the same applies to Health and Safety at work it seems you can't do anything without signing your life away,so that anything goes wrong its your fault "When did you ever have ‘freedom of speech’ ? If you can explain which act of the UK Parliament allows that, i’d be grateful. A lot of our ‘rights’ are very undefined as there’s no constitutional basis. We know more about what we can’t do than what we can. As subjects, after we left the EU, our rights are subject to whatever whims of the government of the day. Much worse is the right wing hold of the media making some really dodgy viewpoints become mainstream. The equality act is a good thing but it doesn’t cover all situations and all interactions people can have. Anyways, could be worse. | |||
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"I'd say it's more lost the power of debate, so many "my way, or the highway" opinions. Being able to see another person's point of view, doesn't mean that you have to agree with it. jumping on the high horse, to quash others differing opinions, is too easy for many
Exactly too many people start talking backwards from the idea they are right instead of figuring out what they have in common and working towards compromise.
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"I agree that you have freedom of speech, but having said that, it feels like not everyone can say or critise back the same way as someone else could, depending on the topic, who else thinks this? Agreed. 2 posters could post exactly the same thing and 1 is applauded for it and the other is berated as they are not in the little group." Yes, you are right there. I also agree with that and I have seen that too. | |||
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"I agree that you have freedom of speech, but having said that, it feels like not everyone can say or critise back the same way as someone else could, depending on the topic, who else thinks this? Agreed. 2 posters could post exactly the same thing and 1 is applauded for it and the other is berated as they are not in the little group." oooo a brave statement but nevertheless a true statement | |||
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"I agree that you have freedom of speech, but having said that, it feels like not everyone can say or critise back the same way as someone else could, depending on the topic, who else thinks this? Agreed. 2 posters could post exactly the same thing and 1 is applauded for it and the other is berated as they are not in the little group.oooo a brave statement but nevertheless a true statement "Ah. The imaginary group/ clique | |||
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"I agree that you have freedom of speech, but having said that, it feels like not everyone can say or critise back the same way as someone else could, depending on the topic, who else thinks this? Agreed. 2 posters could post exactly the same thing and 1 is applauded for it and the other is berated as they are not in the little group.Yes, you are right there. I also agree with that and I have seen that too." me too shag its unjust isn't it? | |||
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"I'd say it's more lost the power of debate, so many "my way, or the highway" opinions. Being able to see another person's point of view, doesn't mean that you have to agree with it. jumping on the high horse, to quash others differing opinions, is too easy for many "I agree. People just get jumped on. Or called delusional etc. I think (or I would hope!) that even though I do tend to have differing opinions to a lot on here, I don’t get personal or call people names if they don’t agree with me. | |||
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The only way to change things is to speak up. Off you go."Examples I am most familiar with is the upper class using it as a way to beat down the upper middle class due to their envy that the upper middle class actually suffered to get to where they were.Occasionally they like to vent their hatred upon the lower middle class but they have to interact with them first | |||
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"Site rules and political correctness are two completely different things. I’ve always had a good sense of humour. For example, in work there is banter, it’s a typical man’s workplace, but everything is said in ‘good humour’. And that’s the difference when I see people up in arms ‘YOU CANT SAY THAT!’ Etc… because you can if you know your audience and your audience know you.
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"Site rules and political correctness are two completely different things. I’ve always had a good sense of humour. For example, in work there is banter, it’s a typical man’s workplace, but everything is said in ‘good humour’. And that’s the difference when I see people up in arms ‘YOU CANT SAY THAT!’ Etc… because you can if you know your audience and your audience know you.
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Exactly this. As I said above, or somewhere tonight! Know your audience. "I guess you never know your audience online | |||
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"I agree that you have freedom of speech, but having said that, it feels like not everyone can say or critise back the same way as someone else could, depending on the topic, who else thinks this? Agreed. 2 posters could post exactly the same thing and 1 is applauded for it and the other is berated as they are not in the little group.oooo a brave statement but nevertheless a true statement
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"Site rules and political correctness are two completely different things. I’ve always had a good sense of humour. For example, in work there is banter, it’s a typical man’s workplace, but everything is said in ‘good humour’. And that’s the difference when I see people up in arms ‘YOU CANT SAY THAT!’ Etc… because you can if you know your audience and your audience know you.
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Exactly this. As I said above, or somewhere tonight! Know your audience. "And make sure nobody releases your offensive jokes from the group chat or text messages. | |||
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"1st learn to laugh at yourself. I’m a half decent looking, fit’ish 40 something yr old who can’t get laid on a website that’s littery filled with men trying to share their wives…. without asking for money. …. I’m allowed to say it I laugh at all of this daily. "This site certainly keeps my eyeballs healthy with the amount of times I roll them | |||
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"I agree that you have freedom of speech, but having said that, it feels like not everyone can say or critise back the same way as someone else could, depending on the topic, who else thinks this? Agreed. 2 posters could post exactly the same thing and 1 is applauded for it and the other is berated as they are not in the little group.oooo a brave statement but nevertheless a true statement "Yep absolutely with you on this Sparkle. Mrs | |||
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"1st learn to laugh at yourself. I’m a half decent looking, fit’ish 40 something yr old who can’t get laid on a website that’s littery filled with men trying to share their wives…. without asking for money. …. I’m allowed to say it I laugh at all of this daily.
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"1st learn to laugh at yourself. I’m a half decent looking, fit’ish 40 something yr old who can’t get laid on a website that’s littery filled with men trying to share their wives…. without asking for money. …. I’m allowed to say it I laugh at all of this daily.
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"I agree that you have freedom of speech, but having said that, it feels like not everyone can say or critise back the same way as someone else could, depending on the topic, who else thinks this? Agreed. 2 posters could post exactly the same thing and 1 is applauded for it and the other is berated as they are not in the little group.oooo a brave statement but nevertheless a true statement
Ah. The imaginary group/ clique
"Come on. You think it’s that serious? All this group chat stuff and clique stuff, I’m sure it’s true but I’m 100% certain it’s actually the people that moan about the clique the most that are in them, moaning in them, bitching about other forum users in them. I was in a group chat off here years ago. I’m not in any now. I am not even in social alumni groups. I simply do not care enough. People do not care enough about people on this place to form a formal clique and gang up on people. | |||
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"Site rules and political correctness are two completely different things. I’ve always had a good sense of humour. For example, in work there is banter, it’s a typical man’s workplace, but everything is said in ‘good humour’. And that’s the difference when I see people up in arms ‘YOU CANT SAY THAT!’ Etc… because you can if you know your audience and your audience know you.
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Exactly this. As I said above, or somewhere tonight! Know your audience.
I guess you never know your audience online "Of course not which is why I don’t say too much. I know who I can have a laugh with on here though. | |||
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"Site rules and political correctness are two completely different things. I’ve always had a good sense of humour. For example, in work there is banter, it’s a typical man’s workplace, but everything is said in ‘good humour’. And that’s the difference when I see people up in arms ‘YOU CANT SAY THAT!’ Etc… because you can if you know your audience and your audience know you.
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Exactly this. As I said above, or somewhere tonight! Know your audience.
And make sure nobody releases your offensive jokes from the group chat or text messages. "I don’t do group chats Steve and most of the People I know don’t tend to get offended too easily. So all good. | |||
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"Site rules and political correctness are two completely different things. I’ve always had a good sense of humour. For example, in work there is banter, it’s a typical man’s workplace, but everything is said in ‘good humour’. And that’s the difference when I see people up in arms ‘YOU CANT SAY THAT!’ Etc… because you can if you know your audience and your audience know you.
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Exactly this. As I said above, or somewhere tonight! Know your audience.
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"No one’s even mentioned a secret cliche or chat group, apart from the people denying they exist, which is weird Just that there’s definitely different standards for what people let slide on here " People have implied it in here. Again, capping. ah | |||
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"I agree that you have freedom of speech, but having said that, it feels like not everyone can say or critise back the same way as someone else could, depending on the topic, who else thinks this? Agreed. 2 posters could post exactly the same thing and 1 is applauded for it and the other is berated as they are not in the little group.Yes, you are right there. I also agree with that and I have seen that too.me too shag its unjust isn't it? "Yes, it is that too. | |||
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"I agree that you have freedom of speech, but having said that, it feels like not everyone can say or critise back the same way as someone else could, depending on the topic, who else thinks this? Agreed. 2 posters could post exactly the same thing and 1 is applauded for it and the other is berated as they are not in the little group.oooo a brave statement but nevertheless a true statement
Yep absolutely with you on this Sparkle.
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"No one’s even mentioned a secret cliche or chat group, apart from the people denying they exist, which is weird Just that there’s definitely different standards for what people let slide on here People have implied it in here. Again, capping. ah "It’s just weird you know. There’s far more angry “the cliche isn’t real!” Than there is people saying it is real Call it whatever slang you want. It’s weird | |||
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"Site rules and political correctness are two completely different things. I’ve always had a good sense of humour. For example, in work there is banter, it’s a typical man’s workplace, but everything is said in ‘good humour’. And that’s the difference when I see people up in arms ‘YOU CANT SAY THAT!’ Etc… because you can if you know your audience and your audience know you.
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And make sure nobody releases your offensive jokes from the group chat or text messages.
This is why I don’t join group chats!!!! "To clarify for others as well, this is a reference to plenty of high profile people that make jokes, thinking they know their audience and then it gets leaked. It even happened at my uni. I got sent screenshots of people being racist in their rugby chat. Same people that smiled in my face at social events. This comment wasn’t about fab - just a general one | |||
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"No one’s even mentioned a secret cliche or chat group, apart from the people denying they exist, which is weird Just that there’s definitely different standards for what people let slide on here People have implied it in here. Again, capping. ah
It’s just weird you know. There’s far more angry “the cliche isn’t real!” Than there is people saying it is real
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"Why do you presume my chats are offensive Steve? You know what I see on these threads? The easily offended are the ones who get personal and insult people. Who are you to assume that what I say in private is offensive? " That comment wasn’t directed specifically at you. I clarified above | |||
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"Why do you presume my chats are offensive Steve? You know what I see on these threads? The easily offended are the ones who get personal and insult people. Who are you to assume that what I say in private is offensive? That comment wasn’t directed specifically at you. I clarified above "Well it bloody looked like it was. But ok fair enough | |||
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"Why do you presume my chats are offensive Steve? You know what I see on these threads? The easily offended are the ones who get personal and insult people. Who are you to assume that what I say in private is offensive? " Also all this easily offended stuff. Everyone is easily offended. All the people that constantly assume others are offended and cry about it, they’re easily offended. Offended that their free speech is being taken away. Hence threads like this one. The OP is just as offended as the people like me that were offended by his thread. | |||
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"Why do you presume my chats are offensive Steve? You know what I see on these threads? The easily offended are the ones who get personal and insult people. Who are you to assume that what I say in private is offensive? That comment wasn’t directed specifically at you. I clarified above
Well it bloody looked like it was.
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"Why do you presume my chats are offensive Steve? You know what I see on these threads? The easily offended are the ones who get personal and insult people. Who are you to assume that what I say in private is offensive? That comment wasn’t directed specifically at you. I clarified above
Well it bloody looked like it was.
But ok fair enough
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"I’ve found and picked up your toys, OP. You’re welcome " thankyou | |||
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"I quite like the health and safety things that reduce the likelihood of people dying or being seriously injured because Joe Bloggs and Co. can't be arsed to provide PPE or consider alternative ways to do things. If we're so outraged at workplace H&S, perhaps we should just accept the practices in places like Qatar, which we Westerners seemed to wholly disagree with. Perhaps it's okay for people to be paid peanuts to build expensive stadia in boiling hot weather, with no consideration for safety and if they die, well, it's just how it is. Or is it?! I like not dying at work
Yeah, imagine valuing the health of employees. This is fascism. Back in my day I lost three of my limbs before what you softies call "minimum working age". Pah. I also walked uphill both ways in the blazing snow to school."I walked up hill both ways in the snow barefoot to have a one night stand / walk of shame - these kids today with their swipey apps can get off my lawn. | |||
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"I quite like the health and safety things that reduce the likelihood of people dying or being seriously injured because Joe Bloggs and Co. can't be arsed to provide PPE or consider alternative ways to do things. If we're so outraged at workplace H&S, perhaps we should just accept the practices in places like Qatar, which we Westerners seemed to wholly disagree with. Perhaps it's okay for people to be paid peanuts to build expensive stadia in boiling hot weather, with no consideration for safety and if they die, well, it's just how it is. Or is it?! I like not dying at work
Yeah, imagine valuing the health of employees. This is fascism. Back in my day I lost three of my limbs before what you softies call "minimum working age". Pah. I also walked uphill both ways in the blazing snow to school.
I walked up hill both ways in the snow barefoot to have a one night stand / walk of shame - these kids today with their swipey apps can get off my lawn."surely one way would be up hill the other down...... Cmon wake up | |||
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"Society has always imposed conditions on its membership. Divisions within it, including businesses impose their own conditions too. Fab is the same and we each signed to accept the terms, including those of the forum use. You can impose - or not - conditions in your own domain as you see fit. We rightly respect others around us, not abusing them but respecting them to be free to be themselves. We should expect to limit ourselves, without others and society needing to do it for us. " So we limit free expression for others? | |||
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"I’m very p.c I always make sure my comments never upset anyone. The mr " | |||
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"Yeah Fab forums is basically an outrage competition which has a skew in terms of how popular you are on here " Some so called Swingers with mainly the biggest rattle only post on the forums, talk the talk but don't walk the walk springs to mind. | |||
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"Yeah Fab forums is basically an outrage competition which has a skew in terms of how popular you are on here Some so called Swingers with mainly the biggest rattle only post on the forums, talk the talk but don't walk the walk springs to mind. " You could be right | |||
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"Are you going to start a thread on this topic every time people disagree with you on another thread, OP? " Only if people agree to make counter claims threads where they talk about how not bothered they are by it | |||
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