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It’s one of those shows that even though you know the concept and have an idea of how to win there’s no right or wrong way to do it.
Being as true to yourself is necessary but you’ve got to be able to be a little manipulative.
It’s a fantastic show and as long as they don’t mess around with it too much can go on and on.
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Agree that it was better than the first series, was getting all paternal for M and saying keep writing when she write H..
Only because I knew she was going to be devastated if she went the other way which she did but fair play to the winner, he aced it.. |
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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago
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"Agree that it was better than the first series, was getting all paternal for M and saying keep writing when she write H..
Only because I knew she was going to be devastated if she went the other way which she did but fair play to the winner, he aced it.."
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"Agree that it was better than the first series, was getting all paternal for M and saying keep writing when she write H..
Only because I knew she was going to be devastated if she went the other way which she did but fair play to the winner, he aced it..
Spoilers!!! Delete delete!! "
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Ooh I was screeching at Mollie! She was so blinkered by Harry! Totally hoodwinked. I mean why on earth would Jas vote for banishment if he was a Traitor. I liked Harry at the start of the process, took a real dislike to him towards the end of it |
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"amazing but ........... I wanted jaz to win ... he sussed everyone.... he just didn't get the undying support of a pretty girl in love with a pretty boy. I didn't take to Harry at all."
Yep, he sussed Harry out long ago but got shot down for it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OMG we binge watched Australia S2 last night - it's even more gripping than the British version! 
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I'm gonna start that tonight! Actually i don't think I've seen S1 yet? I watched an American one i think  |
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"amazing but ........... I wanted jaz to win ... he sussed everyone.... he just didn't get the undying support of a pretty girl in love with a pretty boy. I didn't take to Harry at all."
Jaz was brilliant, but he wasn't good at recruiting people to his cause, but i think he guessed them all - if the traitors had realised they would have had him out i think!
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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago
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"amazing but ........... I wanted jaz to win ... he sussed everyone.... he just didn't get the undying support of a pretty girl in love with a pretty boy. I didn't take to Harry at all.
Jaz was brilliant, but he wasn't good at recruiting people to his cause, but i think he guessed them all - if the traitors had realised they would have had him out i think!
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That Molly got burned. How she didn't realise Harry had Paul over a barrel or was such a strong player but not murdered in the earlier stages, That Jaz had fairly reasoned arguments against him but there was nothing on Jaz, she let herself get fooled. Great ending though |
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By *aizyWoman
over a year ago
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"OMG we binge watched Australia S2 last night - it's even more gripping than the British version!
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I have just noticed there is a series 2!! I loved the first series so much I am looking forward to binge watching this series! |
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Well done to Harry but poor poor molly gosh I felt so sorry for her and by looks of it Harry was upset u see the excitement of winning I would of atleast offered molly 20 grand of the winnings for sure absolutely lovely bueatiful woman and could see the pain in her eyes when he said he was a traitor xx |
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By *eliWoman 3 weeks ago
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"I think Charlotte is going to win."
I really hope not. I hope Freddie tells someone, somehow that she's a traitor. I really want Alexander to win. 🥰 And this new power that's being teased... it had better be something impressive and not foolishly wasted on someone. |
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"I think Charlotte is going to win.
I really hope not. I hope Freddie tells someone, somehow that she's a traitor. I really want Alexander to win. 🥰 And this new power that's being teased... it had better be something impressive and not foolishly wasted on someone."
Well she played a blinder recruiting him, I hope they vote to murder Leanne because the other 4 will instantly think Alexander or Freddie.
Ultimately I think it's going to be between Charlotte and Frankie who's brilliant by the way " the fact that everyone ignored me when I said I was irrelevant proves that I am"
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"I think Charlotte is going to win. agreed, I can’t see anyone rumbling her from now on!
Well this didn’t age very well did it  "
Lot's of twists and turns.
The others still have to believe Frankie. |
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"I think Charlotte is going to win. agreed, I can’t see anyone rumbling her from now on!
Well this didn’t age very well did it
Lot's of twists and turns.
The others still have to believe Frankie."
True. I guess it has made the final more interesting - Charlotte would’ve sailed to victory had it not been for last night! |
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Sort of felt a bit sorry for Alexander and Francesca but as the latter said we just didn't trust each other..
Not knowing if you've just banished one of your own or one of the traitor's added a good twist..
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"Sort of felt a bit sorry for Alexander and Francesca but as the latter said we just didn't trust each other..
Not knowing if you've just banished one of your own or one of the traitor's added a good twist..
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It got pretty personal towards the end I'm blaming Leanne for this she seemed to take everything personally and attacked anyone who disagreed with her, I'd much rather Frankie Jake and Alexander shared the prize.
But that's the game I guess. |
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This series was brilliantly done it had so many more twists than the last - so psychological, probably even more so in person after the weeks getting to know each other. Game or not, I bet the stress of not knowing who was and who wasn't horrendous.. Then there's the factor of the prize money, ultimate trust and greed/selfishness. |
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"Sort of felt a bit sorry for Alexander and Francesca but as the latter said we just didn't trust each other..
Not knowing if you've just banished one of your own or one of the traitor's added a good twist..
It got pretty personal towards the end I'm blaming Leanne for this she seemed to take everything personally and attacked anyone who disagreed with her, I'd much rather Frankie Jake and Alexander shared the prize.
But that's the game I guess."
Fighting her corner..
Surprised me that they get close to each other, which I can see as a tactic etc but then when push comes to shove they get upset because they get stitched up by another player.. |
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"This series was brilliantly done it had so many more twists than the last - so psychological, probably even more so in person after the weeks getting to know each other. Game or not, I bet the stress of not knowing who was and who wasn't horrendous.. Then there's the factor of the prize money, ultimate trust and greed/selfishness. "
I wonder how bad it would be if the prize money was truly life changing, it's possibly why it's a reasonably low amount.
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"This series was brilliantly done it had so many more twists than the last - so psychological, probably even more so in person after the weeks getting to know each other. Game or not, I bet the stress of not knowing who was and who wasn't horrendous.. Then there's the factor of the prize money, ultimate trust and greed/selfishness. I wonder how bad it would be if the prize money was truly life changing, it's possibly why it's a reasonably low amount."
If one got to the final two to take the money, the other would probably collapse!  I suppose the stress would be ramped up on everyone if playing for say millions.. How they held their poker faces and overall game play throughout though was something else.. |
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"I wanted Charlotte to win in the end she played the best game, Leanne and Jake were my two least favourite of the whole series so I was disappointed they won 🙄"
I see what you mean with this, I wanted Charlotte to win because she was just so entertaining as a traitor, proper good telly. The Seer really screwed it up for her. I liked Jake though, he was really involved, almost one of the main characters, so I’d have been wounded if he’d missed out. |
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"I wanted Charlotte to win in the end she played the best game, Leanne and Jake were my two least favourite of the whole series so I was disappointed they won 🙄"
To be fair, I really thought she had turned it around on Frankie but I know even if she made it through the round table, there would've been too much doubt at the end game. Which I don't think is fair as banishing until there's only two left just makes the odds better and the prize money higher so I doubt there will ever be more than 2 winners |
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"I wanted Charlotte to win in the end she played the best game, Leanne and Jake were my two least favourite of the whole series so I was disappointed they won 🙄
To be fair, I really thought she had turned it around on Frankie but I know even if she made it through the round table, there would've been too much doubt at the end game. Which I don't think is fair as banishing until there's only two left just makes the odds better and the prize money higher so I doubt there will ever be more than 2 winners"
I didn't like Leanne at all I think she's a bully and used emotional blockmail a fair bit. |
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"I wanted Charlotte to win in the end she played the best game, Leanne and Jake were my two least favourite of the whole series so I was disappointed they won 🙄
To be fair, I really thought she had turned it around on Frankie but I know even if she made it through the round table, there would've been too much doubt at the end game. Which I don't think is fair as banishing until there's only two left just makes the odds better and the prize money higher so I doubt there will ever be more than 2 winners
I didn't like Leanne at all I think she's a bully and used emotional blockmail a fair bit."
Yeah, she would hammer a point on people being traitors with no evidence and when someone would accuse her, she'd flip! I can see why no one would accuse her because of the absolute effort you would have to put in arguing with her 🙄 |
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Series 1 had 3 winners didn't it? If memory recalls...
I loved the format when it first came out and loved the first 2 seasons, but couldn't get into this one so just watched the round tables.
As soon as the seer twist was revealed I knew Charlotte and Frankie would go. It's just safer to get rid of both to be sure, so I didn't like that twist at all. There's no need to make being a traitor harder than it already was, and they have to constantly work harder to play the game, so deserve it more I think if they manage to slip through the cracks. Charlotte would have won hands down if that twist hadn't been introduced, I felt bad for her! |
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"I wanted Charlotte to win in the end she played the best game, Leanne and Jake were my two least favourite of the whole series so I was disappointed they won 🙄"
Just thought.. Minah played a good game and she was playing for the traitors to win as a group.
I remember thinking when Minah was found, she was only caught as the votes were between her and Freddie. At the time, Leanne voted Alexander not Freddie, if Leanne would have voted Freddie, and Charlotte voting Minah, it would have tied the votes (if I'm right).
Freddie might then have been voted out, Minah could have lasted another round, with Minah then knowing Charlotte couldn't be trusted. |
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"I wanted Charlotte to win in the end she played the best game, Leanne and Jake were my two least favourite of the whole series so I was disappointed they won 🙄
Just thought.. Minah played a good game and she was playing for the traitors to win as a group.
I remember thinking when Minah was found, she was only caught as the votes were between her and Freddie. At the time, Leanne voted Alexander not Freddie, if Leanne would have voted Freddie, and Charlotte voting Minah, it would have tied the votes (if I'm right).
Freddie might then have been voted out, Minah could have lasted another round, with Minah then knowing Charlotte couldn't be trusted."
yeah your correct, and she would have tried to get rid of Charlotte and brought in Leanne |
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They messed up this year with the sear thing.
It became between 2 people instead of 5 having eyes on each other.
So Leanne and Jake just held court until all the doubts left and no one accused them 🤷🏻♂️
Jake hardly got any heat and Leanne would probably make your life living hell if you did accuse her…neither deserved to win and so the last episode was pointless.
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"Series 1 had 3 winners didn't it? If memory recalls...
I loved the format when it first came out and loved the first 2 seasons, but couldn't get into this one so just watched the round tables.
As soon as the seer twist was revealed I knew Charlotte and Frankie would go. It's just safer to get rid of both to be sure, so I didn't like that twist at all. There's no need to make being a traitor harder than it already was, and they have to constantly work harder to play the game, so deserve it more I think if they manage to slip through the cracks. Charlotte would have won hands down if that twist hadn't been introduced, I felt bad for her!"
Yeah, I do also think it was harder for the faithfuls not knowing Charlotte was a traitor. If they did, then maybe Frankie would've stood a chance. I wanted Alexander I win, but was marked when first came in. |
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"I wanted Charlotte to win in the end she played the best game, Leanne and Jake were my two least favourite of the whole series so I was disappointed they won 🙄
To be fair, I really thought she had turned it around on Frankie but I know even if she made it through the round table, there would've been too much doubt at the end game. Which I don't think is fair as banishing until there's only two left just makes the odds better and the prize money higher so I doubt there will ever be more than 2 winners"
I agree, Leanne was never going to let there be more than two of them in the end. I find it very unlikely there will ever be more than two winners really with how the game is designed. |
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"They messed up this year with the sear thing.
It became between 2 people instead of 5 having eyes on each other.
So Leanne and Jake just held court until all the doubts left and no one accused them 🤷🏻♂️
Jake hardly got any heat and Leanne would probably make your life living hell if you did accuse her…neither deserved to win and so the last episode was pointless.
K"
Agreed. It kinda ruined it a bit. Charlotte played a blinder throwing Freddie under the bus and she would have walked the final otherwise. |
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"They messed up this year with the sear thing.
It became between 2 people instead of 5 having eyes on each other.
So Leanne and Jake just held court until all the doubts left and no one accused them 🤷🏻♂️
Jake hardly got any heat and Leanne would probably make your life living hell if you did accuse her…neither deserved to win and so the last episode was pointless.
K"
I think the seer was a good psychological move, It showed us all exactly how cuthroat people will be to win the money, all four wanted to dwindle the people down to get a bigger share of the cash, none of them chose to end game and share |
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"They messed up this year with the sear thing.
It became between 2 people instead of 5 having eyes on each other.
So Leanne and Jake just held court until all the doubts left and no one accused them 🤷🏻♂️
Jake hardly got any heat and Leanne would probably make your life living hell if you did accuse her…neither deserved to win and so the last episode was pointless.
K"
It needed the twist.
The seer actually made the final interesting, or at least changed up the game. Charlotte would have easily won which in itself is very dull because there were zero suspicions even after Freddie tried to point them in that direction. It just so happens she was picked to go to the meeting. If it had not been her the tension would have been much lower in the first half of the final. The seer actually created more doubt along side the lack of knowledge after the banishments.
It needs more twists for both traitors and faithfuls. The final would become repetitive and dull after the first two seasons had given us a faithful win and a traitor win. It would follow a very dull repetition going forward. The entire show is about mind games.
The prize fund needs to be reduced for every faithful they banish in the final. The way it is now it just enforces to keep playing til two people are left.
I also want a season that has us as viewers not knowing any or at least some of the traitors. Make it more about the observations what we notice. It's much easier for us as viewers with full clarity to not see how good or bad somebody is with their deceit. We are never fooled by it. I want to try and work it out myself (without the stress of being on the show!) |
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"They messed up this year with the sear thing.
It became between 2 people instead of 5 having eyes on each other.
So Leanne and Jake just held court until all the doubts left and no one accused them 🤷🏻♂️
Jake hardly got any heat and Leanne would probably make your life living hell if you did accuse her…neither deserved to win and so the last episode was pointless.
K
It needed the twist.
The seer actually made the final interesting, or at least changed up the game. Charlotte would have easily won which in itself is very dull because there were zero suspicions even after Freddie tried to point them in that direction. It just so happens she was picked to go to the meeting. If it had not been her the tension would have been much lower in the first half of the final. The seer actually created more doubt along side the lack of knowledge after the banishments.
It needs more twists for both traitors and faithfuls. The final would become repetitive and dull after the first two seasons had given us a faithful win and a traitor win. It would follow a very dull repetition going forward. The entire show is about mind games.
The prize fund needs to be reduced for every faithful they banish in the final. The way it is now it just enforces to keep playing til two people are left.
I also want a season that has us as viewers not knowing any or at least some of the traitors. Make it more about the observations what we notice. It's much easier for us as viewers with full clarity to not see how good or bad somebody is with their deceit. We are never fooled by it. I want to try and work it out myself (without the stress of being on the show!) "
Well that's an interesting idea.
Have a season where not even the viewers know who the Traitors are and find out when the contestants find out, hmmmmm interesting |
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"They messed up this year with the sear thing.
It became between 2 people instead of 5 having eyes on each other.
So Leanne and Jake just held court until all the doubts left and no one accused them 🤷🏻♂️
Jake hardly got any heat and Leanne would probably make your life living hell if you did accuse her…neither deserved to win and so the last episode was pointless.
K
It needed the twist.
The seer actually made the final interesting, or at least changed up the game. Charlotte would have easily won which in itself is very dull because there were zero suspicions even after Freddie tried to point them in that direction. It just so happens she was picked to go to the meeting. If it had not been her the tension would have been much lower in the first half of the final. The seer actually created more doubt along side the lack of knowledge after the banishments.
It needs more twists for both traitors and faithfuls. The final would become repetitive and dull after the first two seasons had given us a faithful win and a traitor win. It would follow a very dull repetition going forward. The entire show is about mind games.
The prize fund needs to be reduced for every faithful they banish in the final. The way it is now it just enforces to keep playing til two people are left.
I also want a season that has us as viewers not knowing any or at least some of the traitors. Make it more about the observations what we notice. It's much easier for us as viewers with full clarity to not see how good or bad somebody is with their deceit. We are never fooled by it. I want to try and work it out myself (without the stress of being on the show!) "
Interesting for first 5 mins and then made the final a foregone conclusion.
No one believed Charlotte as evidenced at the round table and her getting every vote. As she couldn’t tell anyone she was traitor, everyone doubted Frankie still and she had to go and Alex was an outsider so had no chance at winning.
The two left won because there was no one else that could win. It spoilt the end.
Would have been much more interesting to see if Charlotte won after being picked by Frankie and whether the other 4 would have picked her. It would have given the others a chance to win too.
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"They messed up this year with the sear thing.
It became between 2 people instead of 5 having eyes on each other.
So Leanne and Jake just held court until all the doubts left and no one accused them 🤷🏻♂️
Jake hardly got any heat and Leanne would probably make your life living hell if you did accuse her…neither deserved to win and so the last episode was pointless.
K
It needed the twist.
The seer actually made the final interesting, or at least changed up the game. Charlotte would have easily won which in itself is very dull because there were zero suspicions even after Freddie tried to point them in that direction. It just so happens she was picked to go to the meeting. If it had not been her the tension would have been much lower in the first half of the final. The seer actually created more doubt along side the lack of knowledge after the banishments.
It needs more twists for both traitors and faithfuls. The final would become repetitive and dull after the first two seasons had given us a faithful win and a traitor win. It would follow a very dull repetition going forward. The entire show is about mind games.
The prize fund needs to be reduced for every faithful they banish in the final. The way it is now it just enforces to keep playing til two people are left.
I also want a season that has us as viewers not knowing any or at least some of the traitors. Make it more about the observations what we notice. It's much easier for us as viewers with full clarity to not see how good or bad somebody is with their deceit. We are never fooled by it. I want to try and work it out myself (without the stress of being on the show!)
Interesting for first 5 mins and then made the final a foregone conclusion.
No one believed Charlotte as evidenced at the round table and her getting every vote. As she couldn’t tell anyone she was traitor, everyone doubted Frankie still and she had to go and Alex was an outsider so had no chance at winning.
The two left won because there was no one else that could win. It spoilt the end.
Would have been much more interesting to see if Charlotte won after being picked by Frankie and whether the other 4 would have picked her. It would have given the others a chance to win too.
K"
But without the seer, Charlotte would have walked it easily and end even less anti climatic. If she had got through the first banishment it doesn't matter if it was the final 4 or final 2, she would have been trusted. It would have been uneventful.
The only potential way it may have worked all round is if she picked Alex or Leanne for the meeting, confirming their status to the other, but even then I'm just not seeing anyone truly doubting Charlotte so it brings it back to uneventful.
There needs to be a twist or some obstacle for the traitor in the final when they are that trusted otherwise it's terrible TV as a viewer - it's too easy of a win and becomes stale. I actually liked it was a traitorless endgame, showing the distrust/greed that remains but also highlighting the issue with playing until 2 remain - as I say an, it needs insentive for the faithful to want to share the money and commit to trusting at that point or risk less money. |
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"They messed up this year with the sear thing.
It became between 2 people instead of 5 having eyes on each other.
So Leanne and Jake just held court until all the doubts left and no one accused them 🤷🏻♂️
Jake hardly got any heat and Leanne would probably make your life living hell if you did accuse her…neither deserved to win and so the last episode was pointless.
K
It needed the twist.
The seer actually made the final interesting, or at least changed up the game. Charlotte would have easily won which in itself is very dull because there were zero suspicions even after Freddie tried to point them in that direction. It just so happens she was picked to go to the meeting. If it had not been her the tension would have been much lower in the first half of the final. The seer actually created more doubt along side the lack of knowledge after the banishments.
It needs more twists for both traitors and faithfuls. The final would become repetitive and dull after the first two seasons had given us a faithful win and a traitor win. It would follow a very dull repetition going forward. The entire show is about mind games.
The prize fund needs to be reduced for every faithful they banish in the final. The way it is now it just enforces to keep playing til two people are left.
I also want a season that has us as viewers not knowing any or at least some of the traitors. Make it more about the observations what we notice. It's much easier for us as viewers with full clarity to not see how good or bad somebody is with their deceit. We are never fooled by it. I want to try and work it out myself (without the stress of being on the show!)
Interesting for first 5 mins and then made the final a foregone conclusion.
No one believed Charlotte as evidenced at the round table and her getting every vote. As she couldn’t tell anyone she was traitor, everyone doubted Frankie still and she had to go and Alex was an outsider so had no chance at winning.
The two left won because there was no one else that could win. It spoilt the end.
Would have been much more interesting to see if Charlotte won after being picked by Frankie and whether the other 4 would have picked her. It would have given the others a chance to win too.
K
But without the seer, Charlotte would have walked it easily and end even less anti climatic. If she had got through the first banishment it doesn't matter if it was the final 4 or final 2, she would have been trusted. It would have been uneventful.
The only potential way it may have worked all round is if she picked Alex or Leanne for the meeting, confirming their status to the other, but even then I'm just not seeing anyone truly doubting Charlotte so it brings it back to uneventful.
There needs to be a twist or some obstacle for the traitor in the final when they are that trusted otherwise it's terrible TV as a viewer - it's too easy of a win and becomes stale. I actually liked it was a traitorless endgame, showing the distrust/greed that remains but also highlighting the issue with playing until 2 remain - as I say an, it needs insentive for the faithful to want to share the money and commit to trusting at that point or risk less money. "
The doubt was there for Charlotte from the previous round table with Freddie voting for her, so I don’t think it was a dead cert she’d have won.
If Frankie had picked Alex to check whether he was a faithful as he requested, to prove his innocence, then it would have opened it up a lot more.
I don’t think many enjoyed the final…it was akin to watching deal or no deal when they’ve already taken the money and play on to see if they beat the banker 🤷🏻♂️
They tried to make it more dramatic - I mean they even tried to make the final two suspenseful when everyone knew they were faithfuls anyway 🤦🏻♂️
K
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