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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others? |
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others? "
Check out the data on Scotland. My theory is that anyone who immigrated to the UK from a warm country rules us out because it’s too cold. |
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By *ee VianteWoman 46 weeks ago
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"Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)?"
Yes.
"Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?"
Mostly, no, and I am desperate to move away. |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)?
Yes.
Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?
Mostly, no, and I am desperate to move away."
Come to Scotland! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"I sometimes find affordability usurps the importance of cultural diversity."
Obviously. My hesitation around moving isn’t solely tied up in diversity. My entire family and support system for my 3 year old also live here. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?
Check out the data on Scotland. My theory is that anyone who immigrated to the UK from a warm country rules us out because it’s too cold. "
I don’t know where to look for Scotland? The ONS census data wasn’t inclusive of Scotland |
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By *ee VianteWoman 46 weeks ago
Somewhere in North Norfolk |
"Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)?
Yes.
Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?
Mostly, no, and I am desperate to move away.
Come to Scotland!"
I'd seriously consider it except it's too cold for me too! |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"I sometimes find affordability usurps the importance of cultural diversity.
Obviously. My hesitation around moving isn’t solely tied up in diversity. My entire family and support system for my 3 year old also live here. "
Come to Scotland. With the equity you can release from your house you can employ a full time nanny. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"Yes I did. When I moved from Lambeth to Staines i noticed the demographic was the total opposite despite Staines being inside the M25.
I'm very conscious of it but it's not a chip on my shoulder. "
Is Staines much cheaper? Than Lambeth it probably is but much cheaper than London in general do you think? |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)?
Yes.
Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?
Mostly, no, and I am desperate to move away.
Come to Scotland!
I'd seriously consider it except it's too cold for me too!"
We’re destined to forever be the whitest part of the UK because of our rubbish weather. |
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By *ornycougaWoman 46 weeks ago
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I'm white so obviously have a very different experience from you but I've been in my hometown of Grimsby for a long weekend. This morning I have had 3 interactions with people outside of my family and 2 of them made racist comments.
Not a statistically significant sample and I'm not slating everyone from that town but it does remind me of exactly why I left as soon as I could for reasons including offensive bigotry 
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"I sometimes find affordability usurps the importance of cultural diversity.
Obviously. My hesitation around moving isn’t solely tied up in diversity. My entire family and support system for my 3 year old also live here.
Come to Scotland. With the equity you can release from your house you can employ a full time nanny."
My partner and I have discussed Scotland |
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others? "
Yes and yes. London is like no other place, I love it so much. I love the way London looks, the way it doesn’t give AF and let’s you do you, even the way it votes (sadly so different to much of the U.K.). |
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I don't necessarily think about the diversity of my area, no. White privilege, I guess. I'd guess my immediate area is super white.
I've been involved in my (very local) community and we do try to make people more aware of broader issues - have done/ helped with Black Lives Matter and LGBT related presentations for elderly people, for example. I'd recommend my area as one where residents deliberately try to create a sense of community - but specifically on diversity, I'd doubly recommend it because I know first-hand that we're continually trying to do better. |
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"I sometimes find affordability usurps the importance of cultural diversity.
Obviously. My hesitation around moving isn’t solely tied up in diversity. My entire family and support system for my 3 year old also live here.
Come to Scotland. With the equity you can release from your house you can employ a full time nanny.
My partner and I have discussed Scotland"
Bro!! Do you know how cold it is up there? |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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In a country where 81% of people are white, I don’t think about it
So my opinions on this suck and are pointless
I’ve lived in places where white people were the minority. I felt out of place. I hope other find what they need in their communities |
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Oddly with regards diversity of a wider area, you find pockets of a particular ethnicity in certain areas. New malden in Surrey is an example of this regarding the number of Korean inhabitants.
Some ethnic groups like to be close to others of the same which kind of negates the multiculturalism of an area.
Basically you should be able to live wherever you want, regardless of ethnicity, and encounter no negatives relating to it.
I know, I'm just too optimistic.
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?
Yes and yes. London is like no other place, I love it so much. I love the way London looks, the way it doesn’t give AF and let’s you do you, even the way it votes (sadly so different to much of the U.K.). "
Have to agree with this. Some many people come to London and can be themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"London is too expensive for most migrants and moving outside the London boroughs is becoming for norm. Surrey, Reading and the coast are becoming very attractive options now. "
I live near to Hertfordshire and parts of Essex. They’re not attractive places to live in terms of diversity but they’re cheaper and closer to family than if I moved further out.
The lack of diversity will definitely suck and my experiences in places like Hertfordshire make me hesitant but who can really afford to rent/ buy in London these days with a family |
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"London is too expensive for most migrants and moving outside the London boroughs is becoming for norm. Surrey, Reading and the coast are becoming very attractive options now.
I live near to Hertfordshire and parts of Essex. They’re not attractive places to live in terms of diversity but they’re cheaper and closer to family than if I moved further out.
The lack of diversity will definitely suck and my experiences in places like Hertfordshire make me hesitant but who can really afford to rent/ buy in London these days with a family"
Move to my road Steve! I’ll look after ya! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"Oddly with regards diversity of a wider area, you find pockets of a particular ethnicity in certain areas. New malden in Surrey is an example of this regarding the number of Korean inhabitants.
Some ethnic groups like to be close to others of the same which kind of negates the multiculturalism of an area.
Basically you should be able to live wherever you want, regardless of ethnicity, and encounter no negatives relating to it.
I know, I'm just too optimistic.
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Well yeah. And I imagine many parts of the Jewish community moving to Canvey Island is another example.
I think it’s ok for minorities communities to want to be close to people like them. In fact it makes perfect sense. |
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I have to say, when I first moved to Staines I have a BBQ. One of the neighboursknocked on the door and told us there is a bbq picnic area by the river we should use!!
After many years of befriending her she is a very different. But it's a lot of hard tiring work changing people's opinions. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"London is too expensive for most migrants and moving outside the London boroughs is becoming for norm. Surrey, Reading and the coast are becoming very attractive options now.
I live near to Hertfordshire and parts of Essex. They’re not attractive places to live in terms of diversity but they’re cheaper and closer to family than if I moved further out.
The lack of diversity will definitely suck and my experiences in places like Hertfordshire make me hesitant but who can really afford to rent/ buy in London these days with a family
Move to my road Steve! I’ll look after ya!"
we can cook each other dinner. That would be cute |
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"Oddly with regards diversity of a wider area, you find pockets of a particular ethnicity in certain areas. New malden in Surrey is an example of this regarding the number of Korean inhabitants.
Some ethnic groups like to be close to others of the same which kind of negates the multiculturalism of an area.
Basically you should be able to live wherever you want, regardless of ethnicity, and encounter no negatives relating to it.
I know, I'm just too optimistic.
Well yeah. And I imagine many parts of the Jewish community moving to Canvey Island is another example.
I think it’s ok for minorities communities to want to be close to people like them. In fact it makes perfect sense. "
It absolutely does. But at the heart of multiculturalism is integration amongst all the residents. Some people, and groups, actively work against this. Which is sad.
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?
Yes and yes. London is like no other place, I love it so much. I love the way London looks, the way it doesn’t give AF and let’s you do you, even the way it votes (sadly so different to much of the U.K.). "
It’s gorgeous. I wish I could live here forever. I mean maybe when I’m like 70 and I inherit some property here I’ll come back and enjoy retirement  |
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?
Yes and yes. London is like no other place, I love it so much. I love the way London looks, the way it doesn’t give AF and let’s you do you, even the way it votes (sadly so different to much of the U.K.).
It’s gorgeous. I wish I could live here forever. I mean maybe when I’m like 70 and I inherit some property here I’ll come back and enjoy retirement "
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Isn't it a sign of a successful, sustainable society that so many of us say things like "after my relatives die, I'll be able to afford things" |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"I don't necessarily think about the diversity of my area, no. White privilege, I guess. I'd guess my immediate area is super white.
I've been involved in my (very local) community and we do try to make people more aware of broader issues - have done/ helped with Black Lives Matter and LGBT related presentations for elderly people, for example. I'd recommend my area as one where residents deliberately try to create a sense of community - but specifically on diversity, I'd doubly recommend it because I know first-hand that we're continually trying to do better."
I don’t just mean ethnic diversity.
But Manchester (where your location is) seems great for lots of communities. I like it a lot. |
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others? "
Yes I do. I feel where I live in Herts has just right level of diversity, obviously pre dominantly white but lots of small communities of Asian, lot of Portuguese & Brazilians. If my jiu jitsu class are a microcosm of the area then it's very diverse. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?
Yes and yes. London is like no other place, I love it so much. I love the way London looks, the way it doesn’t give AF and let’s you do you, even the way it votes (sadly so different to much of the U.K.).
It’s gorgeous. I wish I could live here forever. I mean maybe when I’m like 70 and I inherit some property here I’ll come back and enjoy retirement
(slightly off topic)
Isn't it a sign of a successful, sustainable society that so many of us say things like "after my relatives die, I'll be able to afford things""
lol yep. Such a great society |
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"Oddly with regards diversity of a wider area, you find pockets of a particular ethnicity in certain areas. New malden in Surrey is an example of this regarding the number of Korean inhabitants.
Some ethnic groups like to be close to others of the same which kind of negates the multiculturalism of an area.
Basically you should be able to live wherever you want, regardless of ethnicity, and encounter no negatives relating to it.
I know, I'm just too optimistic.
Well yeah. And I imagine many parts of the Jewish community moving to Canvey Island is another example.
I think it’s ok for minorities communities to want to be close to people like them. In fact it makes perfect sense. "
Is this really happening? Jewish Community moving to CW? Very smart move. |
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"I don't necessarily think about the diversity of my area, no. White privilege, I guess. I'd guess my immediate area is super white.
I've been involved in my (very local) community and we do try to make people more aware of broader issues - have done/ helped with Black Lives Matter and LGBT related presentations for elderly people, for example. I'd recommend my area as one where residents deliberately try to create a sense of community - but specifically on diversity, I'd doubly recommend it because I know first-hand that we're continually trying to do better.
I don’t just mean ethnic diversity.
But Manchester (where your location is) seems great for lots of communities. I like it a lot. "
Sorry - obviously in context my mind went straight there.
There are good and bad bits like anywhere else! But as a regional city I think we do pretty well. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"In a country where 81% of people are white, I don’t think about it
So my opinions on this suck and are pointless
I’ve lived in places where white people were the minority. I felt out of place. I hope other find what they need in their communities "
But I mean more than just ethnic diversity. I’m talking about ethnic diversity but my question is about diversity in general |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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Kent.. The capital and biggest county in the UK.
I grew up here, live here, but feel I am being pushed out to cheaper places. Wales seems like a good move.
Diversity everyone is and should embrace everyone but sadly we don't as people.
Over the years we have become multi cultural and diverse. I love it to a point. I do not get into debates that say the world owes you because of the diversity or culture. I embrace and accept people as they are and they should reciprocate but sadly here and in the outside of here people do not accept each other or listen. If you don't like me attitude. Jog on is myself because I am not changing diversity or culture. |
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By *os19Man 46 weeks ago
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others? "
. From a personal perspective I wouldn’t move to Essex places near Clacton or Southend unless they have changed from my first experience 15 years ago when I went to visit family.Been followed by a security guard when doing a supermarket shop getting to the till and the security guard standing at the end of the till.The checkout girl asking if the debit card I was paying with is mine these things don’t happen to me in London but did in Essex. |
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others? . From a personal perspective I wouldn’t move to Essex places near Clacton or Southend unless they have changed from my first experience 15 years ago when I went to visit family.Been followed by a security guard when doing a supermarket shop getting to the till and the security guard standing at the end of the till.The checkout girl asking if the debit card I was paying with is mine these things don’t happen to me in London but did in Essex."
Lol that happened to me here when first moved here 20 years ago, ironically he was black. Even more ironically my mate was a white policeman |
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"According to the census of 2011....very white
Tinder "
Of which is a large Scottish descent and London (industry brought them here)
Now we have a growing Eastern European population which is bring lots of different things to the town |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"I lived in London for 12 years and loved it. I wish I'd never left. I can't afford to move back now."
I fear we are all being pushed away with the cost of living. Housing prices are diverse too. A system that for many fails. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"Oddly with regards diversity of a wider area, you find pockets of a particular ethnicity in certain areas. New malden in Surrey is an example of this regarding the number of Korean inhabitants.
Some ethnic groups like to be close to others of the same which kind of negates the multiculturalism of an area.
Basically you should be able to live wherever you want, regardless of ethnicity, and encounter no negatives relating to it.
I know, I'm just too optimistic.
Well yeah. And I imagine many parts of the Jewish community moving to Canvey Island is another example.
I think it’s ok for minorities communities to want to be close to people like them. In fact it makes perfect sense.
It absolutely does. But at the heart of multiculturalism is integration amongst all the residents. Some people, and groups, actively work against this. Which is sad.
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I think sad in some ways but like I said, understandable. I think it’s one of those things where communities provide a lot of safety and a lot of important cultural familiarity and support. Especially important for migrants. I said on a thread once, but not being able to get my haircut in Loughborough (when I was studying there, it might be different now) and having to go to Leicester was an inconvenience and a small reason why living somewhere with a reasonably big Black community feels ideal to me. Also food was another factor. |
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By *eliWoman 46 weeks ago
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I do sometimes yes. At the farmer's market or when I go for a coffee. Certain incidents have made me aware of it. At the same time, it's actually a rather lovely place to live - yes diversity isn't great (it's pretty piss poor in my town) but racist incidents are few and far between.
There's a real community sense here. I describe it as an overgrown village - it is. Affordability is far better than it is down South - I remember when first looking for a place to buy and we looked at Herts and it was just... nope. I've also found that people like to learn, enjoy that - take my hair for example.
Sure, I've had times where I've clearly explained my hair texture, I've gone in for a consultation only to be told I'd be better going to Manchester. I've also found hairdressers who want to learn; one is a friend now and excitedly tells me about courses she's going on. Recommends products etc.
In terms of diversity and visibility there's been a real push in recent years - they have a little Pride now. Do various events to promote other cultures, sexualities etc.
I think that for me personally, it's perhaps a bit easier to be accepted? I'm not sure how to phrase this so I won't go too much in to it. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others? . From a personal perspective I wouldn’t move to Essex places near Clacton or Southend unless they have changed from my first experience 15 years ago when I went to visit family.Been followed by a security guard when doing a supermarket shop getting to the till and the security guard standing at the end of the till.The checkout girl asking if the debit card I was paying with is mine these things don’t happen to me in London but did in Essex."
My experience of places like Clacton in the last 10 years would probably put me off. And my experiences in parts of Hertfordshire in the last 2 years would too. But never say never I guess |
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"London is too expensive for most migrants and moving outside the London boroughs is becoming for norm. Surrey, Reading and the coast are becoming very attractive options now.
I live near to Hertfordshire and parts of Essex. They’re not attractive places to live in terms of diversity but they’re cheaper and closer to family than if I moved further out.
The lack of diversity will definitely suck and my experiences in places like Hertfordshire make me hesitant but who can really afford to rent/ buy in London these days with a family
Move to my road Steve! I’ll look after ya!
we can cook each other dinner. That would be cute"
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By *os19Man 46 weeks ago
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others? . From a personal perspective I wouldn’t move to Essex places near Clacton or Southend unless they have changed from my first experience 15 years ago when I went to visit family.Been followed by a security guard when doing a supermarket shop getting to the till and the security guard standing at the end of the till.The checkout girl asking if the debit card I was paying with is mine these things don’t happen to me in London but did in Essex.
My experience of places like Clacton in the last 10 years would probably put me off. And my experiences in parts of Hertfordshire in the last 2 years would too. But never say never I guess"
. I can’t see myself moving to Clacton or Southend to be with family but I can see myself moving to Hertfordshire the part of Cheshunt , borders of Goffs Oak and Cuffley. |
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I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all. |
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"I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all."
Derby is a beautiful place. |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"Chinese money is pushing up prices in Sheffield for all especially rental and properties The Chinese students come from very wealthy backgrounds. "
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"I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all.
Derby is a beautiful place. "
Derbyshire is a beautiful place |
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"I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all.
Derby is a beautiful place.
Derbyshire is a beautiful place"
Whoa whoa, Joe. We don't need anymore competition up this way.
I'd stay down there OP, your family are settled |
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By *glyBettyTV/TS 46 weeks ago
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"And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism. "
The people living in commuter belt outposts like Essex & Kent contains many of the people (or grandchildren of) who used to live in London, but moved out to get away from people like my grandparents when they immigrated here in the 1960s, so that attitude is not surprising. |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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Controversial idea:
It doesn’t matter how diverse the place is. What matters is that the people aren’t bigoted and welcome people from any background.
Maybe look for a happy/contented place with nice people. |
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There’s hardly any diversity in our neck of the woods, I don’t see that this has changed much since I can remember either. I don’t know what the reason is for this considering the huge number of global employers within a 40 mile radius.
My daughter is in her first year at uni in Manchester and loves how multi cultural the city is. Her only observation is that ethnic groups don’t seem to mix so I think this needs to change for everyone. The students from various backgrounds stay in a circle of what they’re comfortable with
I mean, us Welsh are even mixing with the English these days |
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
The people living in commuter belt outposts like Essex & Kent contains many of the people (or grandchildren of) who used to live in London, but moved out to get away from people like my grandparents when they immigrated here in the 1960s, so that attitude is not surprising. "
That’s a thought I guess. The comments under the tweet really shocked me but also didn’t at the same time. I think you have your prejudices about areas in terms of racists that live there sometimes but still shit to be right. I slyly hope I’m always wrong and everyone everywhere is lovely. |
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"There’s hardly any diversity in our neck of the woods, I don’t see that this has changed much since I can remember either. I don’t know what the reason is for this considering the huge number of global employers within a 40 mile radius.
My daughter is in her first year at uni in Manchester and loves how multi cultural the city is. Her only observation is that ethnic groups don’t seem to mix so I think this needs to change for everyone. The students from various backgrounds stay in a circle of what they’re comfortable with
I mean, us Welsh are even mixing with the English these days "
Probably the big test for Manchester, to be honest (I live in an area with at least overflow of students) is seeing what it's like in the summer when all the undergraduates have gone home. It's certainly a lot quieter, and my bet is it would change the character for those who need to be aware of it. |
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By *adgerMan 46 weeks ago
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"I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all.
Derby is a beautiful place.
Derbyshire is a beautiful place"
Well bits are… but if you look under the surface even in the peak park, as well as a lack of ethnic diversity there’s also big socio-ecconomic divisions. Beautiful but I would necessarily recommend it |
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"I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all.
Derby is a beautiful place.
Derbyshire is a beautiful place
Well bits are… but if you look under the surface even in the peak park, as well as a lack of ethnic diversity there’s also big socio-ecconomic divisions. Beautiful but I would necessarily recommend it"
It really depends on the meaning of beauty.
I wouldn't choose an area to live in on the basis of its landscapes. This is why trains exist - so you can go there. |
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"Reading is a really diverse place, a lot of new food chains usually trial Reading first as it’s a really good cross category of age/gender/race apparently!"
I have lived in Reading all my life. In the same house now for just over forty years. Yes it has changed a lot. I would say now it has become a suburb of outer London. ? Especially driving up the M4 . Used to be mostly fields from Reading to Slough . Now commercial and housing. In my road near me . There are families who have mostly moved out from London. Their families are originally from. India, Pakistan, China, Italy Lithuanian and others . So diverse compared to families living in road when I moved in. |
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Where I live it’s pretty much old white people of affluence. I am also the only gay/trans in my immediate local roads. Though our neighbours think I am great fun and quite nice just abit quirky The old boys keep asking me to go fishing on their boats for the day with them in summer  |
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others? "
I do...
I live in a area that is 99% white, 99% Christian , probably 99% heterosexual and I'm very aware of it and feel some diversity would be of massive benefit.
Like you I feel I'm living in a bubble ... |
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"There’s hardly any diversity in our neck of the woods, I don’t see that this has changed much since I can remember either. I don’t know what the reason is for this considering the huge number of global employers within a 40 mile radius.
My daughter is in her first year at uni in Manchester and loves how multi cultural the city is. Her only observation is that ethnic groups don’t seem to mix so I think this needs to change for everyone. The students from various backgrounds stay in a circle of what they’re comfortable with
I mean, us Welsh are even mixing with the English these days
Probably the big test for Manchester, to be honest (I live in an area with at least overflow of students) is seeing what it's like in the summer when all the undergraduates have gone home. It's certainly a lot quieter, and my bet is it would change the character for those who need to be aware of it."
Yes! Trouble is, in student dense areas, there’ll still be lots of foreign under grads who stay in the UK as can’t afford to travel between home and uni. Wonder if she’ll open her eyes enough to notice
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"There’s hardly any diversity in our neck of the woods, I don’t see that this has changed much since I can remember either. I don’t know what the reason is for this considering the huge number of global employers within a 40 mile radius.
My daughter is in her first year at uni in Manchester and loves how multi cultural the city is. Her only observation is that ethnic groups don’t seem to mix so I think this needs to change for everyone. The students from various backgrounds stay in a circle of what they’re comfortable with
I mean, us Welsh are even mixing with the English these days
Probably the big test for Manchester, to be honest (I live in an area with at least overflow of students) is seeing what it's like in the summer when all the undergraduates have gone home. It's certainly a lot quieter, and my bet is it would change the character for those who need to be aware of it.
Yes! Trouble is, in student dense areas, there’ll still be lots of foreign under grads who stay in the UK as can’t afford to travel between home and uni. Wonder if she’ll open her eyes enough to notice
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I first came here as a foreign postgrad and I certainly wasn't gallivanting off to Australia on holiday, even if it meant seeing my family
She might not even be around to see it. It's just not part of her rhythm. But it is for those who live here. |
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"I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all.
Derby is a beautiful place.
Derbyshire is a beautiful place
Well bits are… but if you look under the surface even in the peak park, as well as a lack of ethnic diversity there’s also big socio-ecconomic divisions. Beautiful but I would necessarily recommend it
It really depends on the meaning of beauty.
I wouldn't choose an area to live in on the basis of its landscapes. This is why trains exist - so you can go there."
I think I'm the opposite of you. I'd prefer to have all those beautiful landscapes on my doorstep and get the train the otherway |
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"I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all.
Derby is a beautiful place.
Derbyshire is a beautiful place
Well bits are… but if you look under the surface even in the peak park, as well as a lack of ethnic diversity there’s also big socio-ecconomic divisions. Beautiful but I would necessarily recommend it
It really depends on the meaning of beauty.
I wouldn't choose an area to live in on the basis of its landscapes. This is why trains exist - so you can go there.
I think I'm the opposite of you. I'd prefer to have all those beautiful landscapes on my doorstep and get the train the otherway"
Fair enough. I look for the people and local resources (community, infrastructure, etc). I don't mind travelling if I want to see beautiful landscapes. |
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"I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all.
Derby is a beautiful place.
Derbyshire is a beautiful place
Well bits are… but if you look under the surface even in the peak park, as well as a lack of ethnic diversity there’s also big socio-ecconomic divisions. Beautiful but I would necessarily recommend it
It really depends on the meaning of beauty.
I wouldn't choose an area to live in on the basis of its landscapes. This is why trains exist - so you can go there.
I think I'm the opposite of you. I'd prefer to have all those beautiful landscapes on my doorstep and get the train the otherway
Fair enough. I look for the people and local resources (community, infrastructure, etc). I don't mind travelling if I want to see beautiful landscapes."
Yeah that's fair enough. We all have different preferences |
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"Reading is a really diverse place, a lot of new food chains usually trial Reading first as it’s a really good cross category of age/gender/race apparently!"
Yeah we chased chick-fil-a back to America for being owned by bigots. |
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By *avinaTVTV/TS 46 weeks ago
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Coming from South Africa (the "Rainbow Nation"), I was initially very struck by the difference between British cities and the countryside. We moved out to a medium sized town within a month of arriving, as that's where I got a job, and ít was whiter than white. It was a bit of a cultural shock. What I found ironic was that the only "non-white" child in my daughter's primary school class was a Sotho lad from Mamelodi, outside Pretoria - his mum was a nurse working in the NHS.  |
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By *adgerMan 46 weeks ago
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"I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all.
Derby is a beautiful place.
Derbyshire is a beautiful place
Well bits are… but if you look under the surface even in the peak park, as well as a lack of ethnic diversity there’s also big socio-ecconomic divisions. Beautiful but I would necessarily recommend it
It really depends on the meaning of beauty.
I wouldn't choose an area to live in on the basis of its landscapes. This is why trains exist - so you can go there."
Lol trains !!! So you go to Buxton(if they’re running) then walk lol |
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"I wouldn't really recommend anyone live in Derby, mainly because it's more an industrial city that probably prides itself being more working class that can pigeonhole you if you have any kind of ambition.
Ethnically though, I reckon it's rather diverse but still lacks behind in other criteria if diversity if that makes any sense at all.
Derby is a beautiful place.
Derbyshire is a beautiful place
Well bits are… but if you look under the surface even in the peak park, as well as a lack of ethnic diversity there’s also big socio-ecconomic divisions. Beautiful but I would necessarily recommend it
It really depends on the meaning of beauty.
I wouldn't choose an area to live in on the basis of its landscapes. This is why trains exist - so you can go there.
Lol trains !!! So you go to Buxton(if they’re running) then walk lol"
Yup. Walking in Derbyshire is wonderful.
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?
I do...
I live in a area that is 99% white, 99% Christian , probably 99% heterosexual and I'm very aware of it and feel some diversity would be of massive benefit.
Like you I feel I'm living in a bubble ..."
Ha, my friend in Workington is half black American, half Chinese, Kenyan husband and their Chinese girlfriend. They hated living in London but are having the time of their lives there. She says it's becoming more diverse bc of the decommissioning of Sellafield, it's brought more ethnically diverse professionals. |
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"I don't necessarily think about the diversity of my area, no. White privilege, I guess. I'd guess my immediate area is super white.
I've been involved in my (very local) community and we do try to make people more aware of broader issues - have done/ helped with Black Lives Matter and LGBT related presentations for elderly people, for example. I'd recommend my area as one where residents deliberately try to create a sense of community - but specifically on diversity, I'd doubly recommend it because I know first-hand that we're continually trying to do better.
I don’t just mean ethnic diversity.
But Manchester (where your location is) seems great for lots of communities. I like it a lot. "
Manchester (the city region and the actual city) is diverse, but it's diverse in pockets or areas. Some areas like diversity of much/any kind.
Our current area is fairly lacking in obvious diversity and yes, I've noticed. Our son's ex also noticed and was a bit self conscious but never experienced any issues here. If you look closely, there is some diversity in certain areas, but as a whole, we are very much living in white Britain here. Our day jobs very much are counter to that though!
Although I am not 100% white British (only 80%, according to my genes ), I look like I am and so I really don't know if the lack of evident diversity in this particular area means people experience racism or not...... |
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I am going to take a slightly different approach to most on this thread.
OP is totally right that London is a bubble. The reality is that given that 80%+ of the population of this country are white and the majority of the non white populations are in relatively small and dense areas (as identified by the ONS data OP supplied) then the vast majority of towns and villages in this country will be overwhelming white. Thats just a mathematical fact.
I live in the middle of Gloucestershire - you could not get a more white area of the country if you tried.
At one level I would imagine OP saying there is literally no way he could live here because he would be in a very small minority. I get that. He would be right and if he wanted people around him that look like him then this is not the place for him.
However just because it is overwhelming white does not mean it is any better or worse than anywhere else for things like racism.
One of the reasons I say that is because my son plays football at a high level and the vast majority of players on his teams are actually non white. Given how small the non white population is here that’s actually very impressive. The football is merit based and so there is an incredible diversity amongst the backgrounds, wealth etc of the various families involved. As such it is a very good test bed for insights into the wider community. Last summer the conversation amongst the parents got round to racism and the non white parents all made very similar comments - yes there is racism here and they have experienced it but, importantly, it is no different to anywhere else they have come from (which includes London). Also they said that just living in the community changed behaviour from people for the better and they all felt accepted.
OP I am not suggesting that rural Gloucestershire is a hotbed of racial diversity - far from it - but I do think that the people here are no different from anywhere else and you would fit in as well as you would anywhere else. |
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"Of diversity that so many of us take for granted. I kinda knew this already but with the reality of how expensive living in London is and thinking of places to live outside of London it’s tough to find a place like it in that sense.
I looked, for work, at the ONS data on ethnicity and you can see breakdowns by area across the country in boroughs and even in wards and London is like no other place in the country. Manchester and Birmingham aren’t really even close in terms of ethnic diversity which did shock me a bit. And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
I know I bang on about being Black a lot so feel free to skip by this thread if that exhausts you.
Anyway here’s my post (TLDR)- Do you think about the diversity of where you live (Not just from an ethnic perspective but a general one)? Would you recommend it as a place to live for others?
I do...
I live in a area that is 99% white, 99% Christian , probably 99% heterosexual and I'm very aware of it and feel some diversity would be of massive benefit.
Like you I feel I'm living in a bubble ...
Ha, my friend in Workington is half black American, half Chinese, Kenyan husband and their Chinese girlfriend. They hated living in London but are having the time of their lives there. She says it's becoming more diverse bc of the decommissioning of Sellafield, it's brought more ethnically diverse professionals."
Haha...they are definitely in the 1% but I'm pleased they are enjoying being here. I do wonder if being so un diverse is a barrier in itself... But clearly not for them . |
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"Where is live is about as diverse as a house brick "
Up here, we have Accrington red brick. There's also bricks with speckled bits and grey bricks used in driveways and stuff. I'm always a little surprised at how different London terraces feel, as they're made from that yellowy brick.
I'm unclear if as diverse as a brick means diverse or not |
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"Where is live is about as diverse as a house brick
Up here, we have Accrington red brick. There's also bricks with speckled bits and grey bricks used in driveways and stuff. I'm always a little surprised at how different London terraces feel, as they're made from that yellowy brick.
I'm unclear if as diverse as a brick means diverse or not "
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By *ty31Man 46 weeks ago
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I really notice the diversity of my area especially after I've been away, it's one thing that I love about London is that it's truly a melting pot like no other place.
I've definitely noticed some changes over the years, especially in the influx of Eastern Europeans (mainly Romanian).
It's been positive seeing different migrant groups starting their own businesses and adding their own imprint to the area |
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I moved from Woking to Reading a couple of years ago, tbh house prices here are as bad as London. Reading seems to have a drug problem, lots of druggies on the street asking you for spare change, I mean who walks around with cash anymore? ??????? |
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I've moved from London to outside & it's just so different there was loads of different races around & now I feel i stick out because I'm 1 of few non-whites. It's weird when you grow up all you know is multiculturalism compared to this |
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By (user no longer on site) 46 weeks ago
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"And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
The people living in commuter belt outposts like Essex & Kent contains many of the people (or grandchildren of) who used to live in London, but moved out to get away from people like my grandparents when they immigrated here in the 1960s, so that attitude is not surprising. "
In those days there was a lot of class prejudice between white people themselves.
The upper class white people really looked down on working class white people.
Just recently I was watching a series set in the 70's called GEORGE And MIlDRED and when they moved to a posh area they are really looked down on by their posh white neighbour.
The things being said about the lower class white people then in turn gets used against foreign people by the white people who themselves were picked on. This is to divert attention from themselves. Or can be seen as generational trauma.
Same with Indian people, they have a caste system, the prejudice within that is unbelievable. And that is still inbedded in 3rd, 4th generation Indians born here towards each other. |
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"And then I saw a tweet today about moving to Essex and Kent and the diversity there and the replies were just lol. Full of racism.
The people living in commuter belt outposts like Essex & Kent contains many of the people (or grandchildren of) who used to live in London, but moved out to get away from people like my grandparents when they immigrated here in the 1960s, so that attitude is not surprising.
In those days there was a lot of class prejudice between white people themselves.
The upper class white people really looked down on working class white people.
Just recently I was watching a series set in the 70's called GEORGE And MIlDRED and when they moved to a posh area they are really looked down on by their posh white neighbour.
The things being said about the lower class white people then in turn gets used against foreign people by the white people who themselves were picked on. This is to divert attention from themselves. Or can be seen as generational trauma.
Same with Indian people, they have a caste system, the prejudice within that is unbelievable. And that is still inbedded in 3rd, 4th generation Indians born here towards each other."
Even though London is diverse there is probably more prejudice between people of the same colour towards one another than people of different colour towards each other.
I.e. earlier arrivals of foreign people in the 60's and 70's don't like the recent arrival of people from the same country their parents, grandparents came from. |
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By *ewcatWoman 46 weeks ago
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I work for a very large organisation. I am currently conducting a research survey, at the end of the survey we have an about you section.
We have this so we can see which voices we are hearing and which sectors of our community we are not hearing from. We also need this because the lived experience of a 32yr old Asian lesbian (random example) will be entirely different from a 60 yr old white male.
So far 79% of the voices are 55years plus white Christian males. They are utterly outraged at my ‘about you’ questions and feel that sexuality, ethnicity, religion, age and disability have absolutely no impact on the life experiences or answers to the questionnaire.
TL: DR The area I live in has low diversity and lots of older cis het white males.
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It’s always been important to me especially when I was bringing up kids. Uk borough councils (outside of London) can be very old & white, and safe diverse areas very expensive, but the schools are so much better. It’s been a real challenge as i wanted good ideally free schools which sadly tend to be in less diverse areas.
Most people I know in trendy areas of London like Islington are able to pay for private schools. |
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"In a country where 81% of people are white, I don’t think about it
So my opinions on this suck and are pointless
I’ve lived in places where white people were the minority. I felt out of place. I hope other find what they need in their communities "
I currently live in an area that’s West African, Filipino, Pakistani and Indian. I don’t feel out of place - We’re all immigrants , 85% of the population are. Difference is there’s no crime, 100% employment , great transport and healthcare for everyone. Similar area in the uk would be a ghetto !
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"In a country where 81% of people are white, I don’t think about it
So my opinions on this suck and are pointless
I’ve lived in places where white people were the minority. I felt out of place. I hope other find what they need in their communities
I currently live in an area that’s West African, Filipino, Pakistani and Indian. I don’t feel out of place - We’re all immigrants , 85% of the population are. Difference is there’s no crime, 100% employment , great transport and healthcare for everyone. Similar area in the uk would be a ghetto !
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Yeah, it's rosy for all concerned:
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/sep/03/i-am-starving-the-migrant-workers-abandoned-by-dubai-employers
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/oct/12/revealed-allegations-of-abuse-and-captivity-without-pay-at-uaes-lucrative-recruitment-agencies
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/oct/19/vergie-tamfungan-filipina-migrant-worker-death-uae |
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"In a country where 81% of people are white, I don’t think about it
So my opinions on this suck and are pointless
I’ve lived in places where white people were the minority. I felt out of place. I hope other find what they need in their communities
I currently live in an area that’s West African, Filipino, Pakistani and Indian. I don’t feel out of place - We’re all immigrants , 85% of the population are. Difference is there’s no crime, 100% employment , great transport and healthcare for everyone. Similar area in the uk would be a ghetto !
Yeah, it's rosy for all concerned:
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/sep/03/i-am-starving-the-migrant-workers-abandoned-by-dubai-employers
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/oct/12/revealed-allegations-of-abuse-and-captivity-without-pay-at-uaes-lucrative-recruitment-agencies
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/oct/19/vergie-tamfungan-filipina-migrant-worker-death-uae"
The guardian. Try a real news site or see for yourself by living in a country .
Also uk has some of the worse immigrant conditions, human trafficking and forced prostitution is rife.open your eyes |
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"In a country where 81% of people are white, I don’t think about it
So my opinions on this suck and are pointless
I’ve lived in places where white people were the minority. I felt out of place. I hope other find what they need in their communities
I currently live in an area that’s West African, Filipino, Pakistani and Indian. I don’t feel out of place - We’re all immigrants , 85% of the population are. Difference is there’s no crime, 100% employment , great transport and healthcare for everyone. Similar area in the uk would be a ghetto !
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I felt really out of place. There were streets I wasn’t allowed down at night
Sounds nice where you are |
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"In a country where 81% of people are white, I don’t think about it
So my opinions on this suck and are pointless
I’ve lived in places where white people were the minority. I felt out of place. I hope other find what they need in their communities
I currently live in an area that’s West African, Filipino, Pakistani and Indian. I don’t feel out of place - We’re all immigrants , 85% of the population are. Difference is there’s no crime, 100% employment , great transport and healthcare for everyone. Similar area in the uk would be a ghetto !
Yeah, it's rosy for all concerned:
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/sep/03/i-am-starving-the-migrant-workers-abandoned-by-dubai-employers
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/oct/12/revealed-allegations-of-abuse-and-captivity-without-pay-at-uaes-lucrative-recruitment-agencies
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/oct/19/vergie-tamfungan-filipina-migrant-worker-death-uae
The guardian. Try a real news site or see for yourself by living in a country .
Also uk has some of the worse immigrant conditions, human trafficking and forced prostitution is rife.open your eyes "
You know perfectly well I work with students from the UAE (and elsewhere). The attitude of the average Emerati to teachers who are of Indian sub continental heritage is very telling. I'll give you a clue - it's not positive. People used to having their every need and whim catered to by a certain group of people don't like that group of people telling them not to be late or to put their phones away in class.
I know perfectly well what the craic is in Dubai for migrants workers. Yes, there are some in well paid jobs who live relatively comfortably, but not the domestic workers, the construction workers, the labourers etc. |
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Hm.
There is not much diversity where I live- my kids are the only mixed race/nationality children in their classes. Before here I lived in a village in Surrey where I was the only non white British person.
I lived in Dublin from 2008 to 2011. The main reason we came back to England was that there wasn’t a single week that I didn’t have a racist/hate attack or slur whenever I went out. It just became unbearable. I know things have changed a lot since then, but I don’t remember those years fondly.
Never had a racial/hate incident in the UK in 17 years. I am aware that I may be part of an exception.
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"I work for a very large organisation. I am currently conducting a research survey, at the end of the survey we have an about you section.
We have this so we can see which voices we are hearing and which sectors of our community we are not hearing from. We also need this because the lived experience of a 32yr old Asian lesbian (random example) will be entirely different from a 60 yr old white male.
So far 79% of the voices are 55years plus white Christian males. They are utterly outraged at my ‘about you’ questions and feel that sexuality, ethnicity, religion, age and disability have absolutely no impact on the life experiences or answers to the questionnaire.
TL: DR The area I live in has low diversity and lots of older cis het white males.
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Ask the same males what they think about sexual promiscuous behaviour they will be outraged, ask if they have ever done anything in their life like that, or seen a woman naked who is not their wife. you'll probably get an embarrassed silence. We humans are hypocritical. |
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I’ll be totally honest (as ever). I only think about diversity in places I live or visit in quite shallow terms. For example being able to visit areas with supermarkets of the ethnicity of the area, or seeing places of worship, clothing shops, barbers etc. and this is because I find it fascinating and beautiful. I love learning about different cultures.
But I guess I don’t look deeper into it. I like being a tourist I guess. |
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My mum was basically the classic example… bought her first house in bow.. worked hard to move out to Wanstead, Olympics in Stratford was announced.. house prices went through the roof.. mum sold that house and basically moved out to outer Romford!
I moved out of London and moved up to Newcastle… not going to say racism has never happened.. I will say people are salt of the earth and just get on with life
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By (user no longer on site) OP 46 weeks ago
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"I've moved from London to outside & it's just so different there was loads of different races around & now I feel i stick out because I'm 1 of few non-whites. It's weird when you grow up all you know is multiculturalism compared to this"
I did my dissertation on racism at my university and the people I interviewed said this too. It’s the culture shock. I found it myself. But like I went from being in places where I’m used to seeing people of colour to being the only person of colour in a room a lot. And I’ve deliberately said person of colour and not Black person here. |
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