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over a year ago
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Lying isn’t just ok, it’s a good thing to do
Lying shows you’ve thought about what you’ve done, realised it’s bad, and you want to do something about it
Telling the truth is lazy. It’s like not wearing deodorant. It’s inconsiderate. It’s shows you couldn’t give a fuck about how your actions effect people
Always lie |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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On a death bed: “you’re going to be alright, well look after you”
Question of paternity: “it’s your kid”
One is perfectly acceptable, one isn’t, it’s all a matter of context. |
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"I tell the truth no matter how brutal it may come across. Really catches people out which is quite satisfying  "
Would you really though? My mum has dementia and she’s forever saying “I’ve done that” “I’ve been there” etc etc. and for us to say no you haven’t mum really stresses her out. To just agree with her is easier and doesn’t harm anyone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it ever okay to lie?"
It depends on the reason, if it’s to spare someone’s feelings without covering your own arse then yes.
For example if someone had a bad haircut and were feeling self conscious, would you tell them the truth it’s bad and make them feel worse or tell a white lie and say it looks alright? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Lying is never good, especially when you know it's a hard limit. But for smaller things, to stop hurt you can be diplomatic with the truth ie
'do I look good in this dress?'
'errrr it's not my favourite, I prefer x,y or z...'
Personally I prefer to be told the truth and know where I stand. It's then up to me to digest and deal with that information.
One thing I have found out, the lips can tell you one thing, but it's the actions that really tell the story.
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"I tell the truth no matter how brutal it may come across. Really catches people out which is quite satisfying
Would you really though? My mum has dementia and she’s forever saying “I’ve done that” “I’ve been there” etc etc. and for us to say no you haven’t mum really stresses her out. To just agree with her is easier and doesn’t harm anyone. "
Towards the end of her life my mum forgot a lot of things or remembered them differently. Telling her she was wrong just upset her. What would have been the point in that |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think you should also consider very carefully if telling the truth is necessary and keeping quiet might be a better option. Also just because you think it doesn't mean it's true. "
I do agree with this one. However, omitting the truth depending on the situation can just be as bad.
But I agree, an opinion doesn't mean it's the truth |
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"Lying isn’t just ok, it’s a good thing to do
Lying shows you’ve thought about what you’ve done, realised it’s bad, and you want to do something about it
Telling the truth is lazy. It’s like not wearing deodorant. It’s inconsiderate. It’s shows you couldn’t give a fuck about how your actions effect people
Always lie "
Wow i pity the people around you.
How could they trust anything you say? |
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"I tell the truth no matter how brutal it may come across. Really catches people out which is quite satisfying
Would you really though? My mum has dementia and she’s forever saying “I’ve done that” “I’ve been there” etc etc. and for us to say no you haven’t mum really stresses her out. To just agree with her is easier and doesn’t harm anyone. "
Utterly ethical to my mind |
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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago
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Depending upon the circumstances and how serious it would be to lie and the downfall of doing it does it become a criminal act would others suffer by lying would it be perverting the cause of justice
Or simply forgot to add ingredients but your adamant that you did they just can't taste it  |
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Yes, I've lost count how many times I've told my eldest the cup of tea he's made me perfect.
Told people I'm busy because I don't want to go out and don't really want to explain why I don't want to.
My biggest one, is replying I'm good thanks when asked how I am.
We all lie, especially those who say they never do |
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"Yes, I've lost count how many times I've told my eldest the cup of tea he's made me perfect.
Told people I'm busy because I don't want to go out and don't really want to explain why I don't want to.
My biggest one, is replying I'm good thanks when asked how I am.
We all lie, especially those who say they never do "
I never lie. Lying gets you nowhere other than in someone's knickers |
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"Yes, I've lost count how many times I've told my eldest the cup of tea he's made me perfect.
Told people I'm busy because I don't want to go out and don't really want to explain why I don't want to.
My biggest one, is replying I'm good thanks when asked how I am.
We all lie, especially those who say they never do
I never lie. Lying gets you nowhere other than in someone's knickers"
And nobody ever wants to get onto someone else's knickers ever, so I can't imagine that ever happening |
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Having been lied to my entire life. No I don't like it. It's made me brutally honest and I will not tolerate it. There's no need to lie, to not offend. Words can be constructed in ways, to put over your opinion, but in a friendly respectful way. |
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"Yes, I've lost count how many times I've told my eldest the cup of tea he's made me perfect.
Told people I'm busy because I don't want to go out and don't really want to explain why I don't want to.
My biggest one, is replying I'm good thanks when asked how I am.
We all lie, especially those who say they never do
I never lie. Lying gets you nowhere other than in someone's knickers
And nobody ever wants to get onto someone else's knickers ever, so I can't imagine that ever happening "
Never!
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Yes acceptable lies are
It was working when I left it
It was like that when I got here
Yeah good idea boss
Oh I have to leave early Friday as I have a hospital appointment
I won't be in for a few days as my grandad has just died, actually don't use that one when they figure out your grandad has died 6 times |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it ever okay to lie?"
If you’re a bloke and someone ask if you wank. A surprising number of blokes claim not to wank.
But we shouldn’t judge them so, it’s ok to tell lie. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it ever okay to lie?"
As with all things there is a sliding scale with extremes at both end... Was there a specific example /situation you were thinking of? |
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By *stella OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Is it ever okay to lie?
As with all things there is a sliding scale with extremes at both end... Was there a specific example /situation you were thinking of? "
No just thinking. Guess I was thinking about the shadowy line of when we take over getting to decide what’s in someone else’s best interest or not as justification of the lie and where that sits - like the dementia examples above, I accept, but when we police what we’re willing to be truthful about and then wrap it up or actually no, *believe* it to be in the other’s best I retests to not know, aren’t we taking away their consent and autonomy? |
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By *stella OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Is it ever okay to lie?
As with all things there is a sliding scale with extremes at both end... Was there a specific example /situation you were thinking of?
No just thinking. Guess I was thinking about the shadowy line of when we take over getting to decide what’s in someone else’s best interest or not as justification of the lie and where that sits - like the dementia examples above, I accept, but when we police what we’re willing to be truthful about and then wrap it up or actually no, *believe* it to be in the other’s best I retests to not know, aren’t we taking away their consent and autonomy?"
*interests |
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"I tell the truth no matter how brutal it may come across. Really catches people out which is quite satisfying
Would you really though? My mum has dementia and she’s forever saying “I’ve done that” “I’ve been there” etc etc. and for us to say no you haven’t mum really stresses her out. To just agree with her is easier and doesn’t harm anyone. "
Exactly this. I now lie to my Dad very often. I'm going to lie to him in the morning, probably the first thing we speak about. He'll be really surprised I'm there so early. He'll tell me I shouldn't have got up so early to drive over. I'll say "oh it's okay" when in reality I'll have stayed in a hotel. Why? Because if I say I've stayed in a hotel, he'll get all agitated and ask why I didn't stay at his house. His house with stairs. Whilst I'm sat in my wheelchair, having the conversation.
So yes, lying in certain circumstances is fine. |
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"I tell the truth no matter how brutal it may come across. Really catches people out which is quite satisfying
Would you really though? My mum has dementia and she’s forever saying “I’ve done that” “I’ve been there” etc etc. and for us to say no you haven’t mum really stresses her out. To just agree with her is easier and doesn’t harm anyone.
Exactly this. I now lie to my Dad very often. I'm going to lie to him in the morning, probably the first thing we speak about. He'll be really surprised I'm there so early. He'll tell me I shouldn't have got up so early to drive over. I'll say "oh it's okay" when in reality I'll have stayed in a hotel. Why? Because if I say I've stayed in a hotel, he'll get all agitated and ask why I didn't stay at his house. His house with stairs. Whilst I'm sat in my wheelchair, having the conversation.
So yes, lying in certain circumstances is fine. "
It really is x |
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By *stella OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I tell the truth no matter how brutal it may come across. Really catches people out which is quite satisfying
Would you really though? My mum has dementia and she’s forever saying “I’ve done that” “I’ve been there” etc etc. and for us to say no you haven’t mum really stresses her out. To just agree with her is easier and doesn’t harm anyone.
Exactly this. I now lie to my Dad very often. I'm going to lie to him in the morning, probably the first thing we speak about. He'll be really surprised I'm there so early. He'll tell me I shouldn't have got up so early to drive over. I'll say "oh it's okay" when in reality I'll have stayed in a hotel. Why? Because if I say I've stayed in a hotel, he'll get all agitated and ask why I didn't stay at his house. His house with stairs. Whilst I'm sat in my wheelchair, having the conversation.
So yes, lying in certain circumstances is fine. "
Totally agree in these types of situations. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Some white lies are ok imo if they're said to protect someone....I have told a few but it was only to protect someone from news that would greatly upset them.... |
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Always thought that when people described themselves as "brutally honest", one could safely assume that they meant "unkind or actively bullying".
Good intentions require tact. Which is not to say that bad intentions require honesty. |
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By *stella OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Is it ever okay to lie?
As with all things there is a sliding scale with extremes at both end... Was there a specific example /situation you were thinking of?
No just thinking. Guess I was thinking about the shadowy line of when we take over getting to decide what’s in someone else’s best interest or not as justification of the lie and where that sits - like the dementia examples above, I accept, but when we police what we’re willing to be truthful about and then wrap it up or actually no, *believe* it to be in the other’s best I retests to not know, aren’t we taking away their consent and autonomy?
*interests"
For those with partners, have you talked openly about what constitutes acceptable lying? |
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