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"As a white, middle aged man, who is probably in the group that is the most privileged in our society, it's difficult to respond to a post like this without sounding like the problem. Be yourself, be strong, be enough. " Please do respond, debate nutures change | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever " What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime? | |||
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"I watched it again the other day "It’s beautiful isn’t it | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘" Nice tits. | |||
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"As a white, middle aged man, who is probably in the group that is the most privileged in our society, it's difficult to respond to a post like this without sounding like the problem. Be yourself, be strong, be enough. Please do respond, debate nutures change "OK. Men and their thinking dominate the society in which we currently live, and therefore some women are put under pressure to be as society except, however not all pressure is caused by society, women compete with women in many ways to conform, whether that be in fashion, health, fitness etc. Also not all men have the same views on their own domestic, work and socitorial roles. | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime? "what is this nonsense? we are genetically engineered with Chanel No 5 coming from our armpits and there are teeny tiny wipers cleaning our bodies at all times | |||
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"I watched it again the other day
It’s beautiful isn’t it "I always feel the excessive maternal vibe in the last flashbacks undermine it some, but it's still a work of art | |||
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"As a white, middle aged man, who is probably in the group that is the most privileged in our society, it's difficult to respond to a post like this without sounding like the problem. Be yourself, be strong, be enough. Please do respond, debate nutures change
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Men and their thinking dominate the society in which we currently live, and therefore some women are put under pressure to be as society except, however not all pressure is caused by society, women compete with women in many ways to conform, whether that be in fashion, health, fitness etc.
Also not all men have the same views on their own domestic, work and socitorial roles."Interesting point  I’d argue that men and their thinking don’t currently dominate society but the remnants of when they did are still very influential. Women’s views on women can be just as, if not more, damaging to women’s liberation | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime?
what is this nonsense? we are genetically engineered with Chanel No 5 coming from our armpits and there are teeny tiny wipers cleaning our bodies at all times"I fucking hate Chanel No. 5! | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime? "Oh you can, I just will less likely have sex with you. Which ain't a bad thing, can't be having me all over you all the time right?! | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime?
what is this nonsense? we are genetically engineered with Chanel No 5 coming from our armpits and there are teeny tiny wipers cleaning our bodies at all times
I fucking hate Chanel No. 5! "This is not permitted. You are a member of the borg. you will be assimilated | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime?
Oh you can, I just will less likely have sex with you. Which ain't a bad thing, can't be having me all over you all the time right?!"But brucey babes, our sole purpose isn’t to get you to want to have sex with us all the time | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime?
Oh you can, I just will less likely have sex with you. Which ain't a bad thing, can't be having me all over you all the time right?!
But brucey babes, our sole purpose isn’t to get you to want to have sex with us all the time "Exactly, which is why I said you can and it's absolutely fine! I don't want to have sex ALL the time. My balls would be the most painful of sun dried tomatoes | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is." I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man  | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man "
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man "well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead? | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man "Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman "And therefore women are just as bad. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman "Not all men, yes all women?  | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?"Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman "If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?
Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim "More importantly... you can't avoid the bitch/deserved it division. If you take care you're mean to innocent men. If bad things happened to you you deserved it. It's always your fault. Hurrah!  | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘" Can I see a copy of this rule book which mandates all of the above please? | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?
Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim
More importantly... you can't avoid the bitch/deserved it division.
If you take care you're mean to innocent men. If bad things happened to you you deserved it.
It's always your fault. Hurrah! "Victim blaming 101. She shouldn’t have been there/worn that/said that/done that  | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘ Can I see a copy of this rule book which mandates all of the above please?" Did you watch the Barbie movie? | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning "Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny! | |||
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"This is a quote, what’s it from? " Barbie | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny! "Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain) | |||
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"This is a quote, what’s it from? Barbie "Ahhhh! Gotcha! I really need to watch it | |||
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"Women see men as the enemy of change, I think the biggest challenge women have to change, is other women. " *some women  | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime?
what is this nonsense? we are genetically engineered with Chanel No 5 coming from our armpits and there are teeny tiny wipers cleaning our bodies at all times
I fucking hate Chanel No. 5! "Haven't watched it in years  | |||
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"Women see men as the enemy of change, I think the biggest challenge women have to change, is other women. *some women "The women that have internalised misogyny issues maybe? | |||
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"Women see men as the enemy of change, I think the biggest challenge women have to change, is other women. " It’s definitely men though high key. Like if we’re keeping it a buck | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime?
what is this nonsense? we are genetically engineered with Chanel No 5 coming from our armpits and there are teeny tiny wipers cleaning our bodies at all times
I fucking hate Chanel No. 5!
Haven't watched it in years "Oi there’s some banging documentaries on there! | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?
Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim "All genders, kill all other genders. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)"As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘" Frickin' love that film, I was in bits at the end of that scene | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?
Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim
More importantly... you can't avoid the bitch/deserved it division.
If you take care you're mean to innocent men. If bad things happened to you you deserved it.
It's always your fault. Hurrah!
Victim blaming 101. She shouldn’t have been there/worn that/said that/done that "Schroedinger's victim/ bitch. I think | |||
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"This is a quote, what’s it from? Barbie "Just as a side note, it was co written by a guy, so there’s a 50/50 likelihood that this speech was at least partly written by a man. Does that change its resonance? | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘ Can I see a copy of this rule book which mandates all of the above please? Did you watch the Barbie movie? "No, I have 10,000 better things to engage with | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?
Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim
All genders, kill all other genders.
"The overwhelming perpetrators of violence are men. The overwhelming victims of violence are women statistics matter | |||
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"This is a quote, what’s it from? Barbie
Just as a side note, it was co written by a guy, so there’s a 50/50 likelihood that this speech was at least partly written by a man. Does that change its resonance? "Fuck no. In a way, if that is the case, it makes it even better because it shows that at least one man gets it | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘ Can I see a copy of this rule book which mandates all of the above please? Did you watch the Barbie movie? "one of the worst films ever. the mesaage seemed to be all men bad, men terrible, best without men. Then Barbie moves to earth properly and the fitst thing she does is get a vagina. Why if men are so horrible and bad? Btw she dont move here for lady on lady live. the movie is so twisted i wish my daughter never seen it. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?
Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim
All genders, kill all other genders.
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"This is a quote, what’s it from? Barbie
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man "I haven't suffered with most of the struggles mentioned in your post, maybe because I was raised with low expectations on my shoulders & have not expected very much of myself throughout my life ever since. I also consider myself to be lucky that I don't really give two shifts what people think of me. I'm a realist- a very average nearly 51 year old with an average job, average looks & average outlook on life. I've had tough times which I'm proud to have overcome, good friends who care & a wonderful kid who's smashing life & acredits me with his positive upbringing. Oh, and regularly walk home a bit worse for wear at 2am without even considering that anyone (male or female) might hurt me. I really do feel sorry for women carrying the weight of these expectations & feel very lucky that I haven't felt the need to try and measure myself against these standards | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘ Can I see a copy of this rule book which mandates all of the above please? Did you watch the Barbie movie?
one of the worst films ever.
the mesaage seemed to be all men bad, men terrible, best without men.
Then Barbie moves to earth properly and the fitst thing she does is get a vagina.
Why if men are so horrible and bad? Btw she dont move here for lady on lady live.
the movie is so twisted i wish my daughter never seen it."This makes me think ‘man cannot untie himself from his gender and takes umbrage to any and all criticism of his gender because deep down he knows his gender is shit and therefore he is shit by association’ | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?
Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim
All genders, kill all other genders.
The overwhelming perpetrators of violence are men. The overwhelming victims of violence are women statistics matter "https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/women-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2021/women-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2021#victims “Males maintain higher risk of being victim to personal crime than females. In 2021/22, 3.3% of males were victim to personal crime, compared to 2.9% of females. In 2020/21, 594 homicides were recorded; 70% of victims were male and 30% female.” The stats clearly show that males are both the causes and victims of the majority of violent crime. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
I haven't suffered with most of the struggles mentioned in your post, maybe because I was raised with low expectations on my shoulders & have not expected very much of myself throughout my life ever since. I also consider myself to be lucky that I don't really give two shifts what people think of me. I'm a realist- a very average nearly 51 year old with an average job, average looks & average outlook on life. I've had tough times which I'm proud to have overcome, good friends who care & a wonderful kid who's smashing life & acredits me with his positive upbringing.
Oh, and regularly walk home a bit worse for wear at 2am without even considering that anyone (male or female) might hurt me.
I really do feel sorry for women carrying the weight of these expectations & feel very lucky that I haven't felt the need to try and measure myself against these standards " you’ve got it! | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?
Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim
All genders, kill all other genders.
The overwhelming perpetrators of violence are men. The overwhelming victims of violence are women statistics matter "This.. (Sadly) | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?
Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim
All genders, kill all other genders.
The overwhelming perpetrators of violence are men. The overwhelming victims of violence are women statistics matter
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/women-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2021/women-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2021#victims
“Males maintain higher risk of being victim to personal crime than females.
In 2021/22, 3.3% of males were victim to personal crime, compared to 2.9% of females.
In 2020/21, 594 homicides were recorded; 70% of victims were male and 30% female.”
The stats clearly show that males are both the causes and victims of the majority of violent crime.
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
well. that's inconvenient for power structures. can we scream culture war platitudes instead?
Hmm. Power structures. I can fix stuff. I can work. I can do all the things. But I can’t stop myself from being a murder victim
All genders, kill all other genders.
The overwhelming perpetrators of violence are men. The overwhelming victims of violence are women statistics matter
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/women-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2021/women-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2021#victims
“Males maintain higher risk of being victim to personal crime than females.
In 2021/22, 3.3% of males were victim to personal crime, compared to 2.9% of females.
In 2020/21, 594 homicides were recorded; 70% of victims were male and 30% female.”
The stats clearly show that males are both the causes and victims of the majority of violent crime.
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime? "We can. I mean, I do, sometimes...? | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘" Maybe stop trying to be liked? | |||
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"That’s didn’t take long to go exactly as imagine Guys, if your afraid of being murdered on the way home, none of you mentioned that in the men’s thread Weird that you left it for this one " Dude | |||
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"Interesting that this thread is more about women and their interaction with men than what being a woman is. Not the same for the mirror thread. " It’s because fragile masculinity  | |||
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"Interesting that this thread is more about women and their interaction with men than what being a woman is. Not the same for the mirror thread. " I haven't looked at the other thread. Most of my problems with being a woman are about the expectations that are placed on me by a system that is led by male expectations (and their female allies/ enforcers). Being a woman just is. | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘" As a previous poster said, being a straight, white man has me in the most privileged position. I’ve worked on talking to people who have a different experience of life and to try to gain an understanding of what it’s like. In my own, admittedly humble and limited opinion, society is changing slowly (far too slowly) but we are in a transition phase where everyone’s role is evolving. This means that many parts of society are expected to be conflicting things. From discussions with others, I’m very aware that Cis men have the easiest ride on this journey. I’m not referring to individuals as I think everyone has their own journey, hardships and issues to contend with. Most people are deserving of love, support and sympathy. I don’t envy the position of women. I’m lucky in the fact that the profession I’ve chosen to go into will give me the opportunity to help educate the next generations. While trying to avoid getting deeper, we aren’t going to solve the global issues we have with the same demographic applying the same solutions that have caused the status quo. Also. Good morning Fluffy, I hope you’re having a good Sunday | |||
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"Interesting that this thread is more about women and their interaction with men than what being a woman is. Not the same for the mirror thread. It’s because fragile masculinity "Perhaps a lot of men and quite a few women only see women in terms of their value to men. On Fab certainly but also in society. | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘ As a previous poster said, being a straight, white man has me in the most privileged position. I’ve worked on talking to people who have a different experience of life and to try to gain an understanding of what it’s like. In my own, admittedly humble and limited opinion, society is changing slowly (far too slowly) but we are in a transition phase where everyone’s role is evolving. This means that many parts of society are expected to be conflicting things. From discussions with others, I’m very aware that Cis men have the easiest ride on this journey. I’m not referring to individuals as I think everyone has their own journey, hardships and issues to contend with. Most people are deserving of love, support and sympathy. I don’t envy the position of women. I’m lucky in the fact that the profession I’ve chosen to go into will give me the opportunity to help educate the next generations. While trying to avoid getting deeper, we aren’t going to solve the global issues we have with the same demographic applying the same solutions that have caused the status quo. Also. Good morning Fluffy, I hope you’re having a good Sunday "Good morning hello I love you | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘" the only person you have to please is yourself look after and love the people in your circle you don’t have to please everyone | |||
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"‘It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful, and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother, but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know.‘ Can I see a copy of this rule book which mandates all of the above please? Did you watch the Barbie movie?
one of the worst films ever.
the mesaage seemed to be all men bad, men terrible, best without men.
Then Barbie moves to earth properly and the fitst thing she does is get a vagina.
Why if men are so horrible and bad? Btw she dont move here for lady on lady live.
the movie is so twisted i wish my daughter never seen it."Or Barbie was trying to conform in a patriarchal society.....Women have a lot of expectations on them in society as a whole and the movie highlights that. In Barbies world the Kens sole role is living for Barbie, he sees that the real world isn't like that...I feel it broke the barriers of gender expectations, however the film isn't anti men, it is exploring the detrimental effects patriarchy has on both genders. My Son went to see it with his Wife and they both dressed up as Ken and Barbie, I was proud that he 'got' and embraced the message, he was the one who told me I should watch it | |||
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"Don't live with s man. Simples. I'm going to slob about all day and not bathe until tonight. And I'm FAT." I’ve got this far through the day but I really feel disgusting so I’m gonna bath. But fuck makeup | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)
As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve "I can attest to this theory. I fight dirty. | |||
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"I watched it again the other day
It’s beautiful isn’t it "I hate Barbie dolls. But I fucking loved that film. I was ready to shout "AMEN" out loud after that, true happy-clappy style. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)
As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve
I can attest to this theory. I fight dirty."My advice to women would be to never rely on fighting, even Your at a huge disadvantage Please don’t believe this “I’m tough and crafty, I know their weak spots, I fight dirty” mentality. You will get hurt Such a bad mentality that leads to a false sense of security. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)
As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve
I can attest to this theory. I fight dirty.
My advice to women would be to never rely on fighting, even
Your at a huge disadvantage
Please don’t believe this “I’m tough and crafty, I know their weak spots, I fight dirty” mentality. You will get hurt
Such a bad mentality that leads to a false sense of security."My advice would be fight. Elbow to the throat. Knee in the bollocks. Run like fuck. That’s a good mentality. A bad mentality is telling women they’re weak and they’ll get hurt. I’ll fight and take a black eye or broken nose, leave the cunt with his bollocks in his chest and struggling to breathe on the floor over lying back and letting it happen | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)
As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve
I can attest to this theory. I fight dirty.
My advice to women would be to never rely on fighting, even
Your at a huge disadvantage
Please don’t believe this “I’m tough and crafty, I know their weak spots, I fight dirty” mentality. You will get hurt
Such a bad mentality that leads to a false sense of security."I'm on wheels. I've had people grab the handles and move me without my consent, several times. On one occasion, it was when I was out with people from Fab and it took a very tall male Fabber to threaten violence before the individual would release me. I'm well aware that I am super vulnerable and that's why if anyone, ANYONE comes up and starts pushing or touching my chair without my consent, I will shout out loud and made a scene. I don't care if you are "just trying" to help a poor, feeble disabled woman on a slope, if you don't get my permission first, I'm gonna make a fuss. People don't like that. Apparently that makes me ungrateful etc. No, it makes me sensible. I don't know which person wants to help (that I don't need) and which one wants to mug me or otherwise harm me. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)
As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve
I can attest to this theory. I fight dirty.
My advice to women would be to never rely on fighting, even
Your at a huge disadvantage
Please don’t believe this “I’m tough and crafty, I know their weak spots, I fight dirty” mentality. You will get hurt
Such a bad mentality that leads to a false sense of security.
My advice would be fight. Elbow to the throat. Knee in the bollocks. Run like fuck. That’s a good mentality. A bad mentality is telling women they’re weak and they’ll get hurt. I’ll fight and take a black eye or broken nose, leave the cunt with his bollocks in his chest and struggling to breathe on the floor over lying back and letting it happen "Just to explain myself I mean don’t walk the street thinking “I’m tough I fight dirty I can handle myself” You can’t against a guy and that mentality will put you in danger. Never rely on fighting to ensure your safety. You are weak and helpless against 99.9% of men if they want to hurt you Obviously when the time comes, fight for your life | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)
As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve
I can attest to this theory. I fight dirty.
My advice to women would be to never rely on fighting, even
Your at a huge disadvantage
Please don’t believe this “I’m tough and crafty, I know their weak spots, I fight dirty” mentality. You will get hurt
Such a bad mentality that leads to a false sense of security."I box and damn straight I would use those skills against anyone I was under attack from. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)
As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve
I can attest to this theory. I fight dirty.
My advice to women would be to never rely on fighting, even
Your at a huge disadvantage
Please don’t believe this “I’m tough and crafty, I know their weak spots, I fight dirty” mentality. You will get hurt
Such a bad mentality that leads to a false sense of security."Sometimes you don’t have a choice!!! It’s not my default setting, sadly one that many of us women have to have as back up. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)
As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve
I can attest to this theory. I fight dirty.
My advice to women would be to never rely on fighting, even
Your at a huge disadvantage
Please don’t believe this “I’m tough and crafty, I know their weak spots, I fight dirty” mentality. You will get hurt
Such a bad mentality that leads to a false sense of security.
My advice would be fight. Elbow to the throat. Knee in the bollocks. Run like fuck. That’s a good mentality. A bad mentality is telling women they’re weak and they’ll get hurt. I’ll fight and take a black eye or broken nose, leave the cunt with his bollocks in his chest and struggling to breathe on the floor over lying back and letting it happen
Just to explain myself
I mean don’t walk the street thinking “I’m tough I fight dirty I can handle myself”
You can’t against a guy and that mentality will put you in danger. Never rely on fighting to ensure your safety. You are weak and helpless against 99.9% of men if they want to hurt you
Obviously when the time comes, fight for your life "It’s more ensuring you stay alive | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)
As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve
I can attest to this theory. I fight dirty.
My advice to women would be to never rely on fighting, even
Your at a huge disadvantage
Please don’t believe this “I’m tough and crafty, I know their weak spots, I fight dirty” mentality. You will get hurt
Such a bad mentality that leads to a false sense of security.
I'm on wheels. I've had people grab the handles and move me without my consent, several times. On one occasion, it was when I was out with people from Fab and it took a very tall male Fabber to threaten violence before the individual would release me. I'm well aware that I am super vulnerable and that's why if anyone, ANYONE comes up and starts pushing or touching my chair without my consent, I will shout out loud and made a scene. I don't care if you are "just trying" to help a poor, feeble disabled woman on a slope, if you don't get my permission first, I'm gonna make a fuss. People don't like that. Apparently that makes me ungrateful etc. No, it makes me sensible. I don't know which person wants to help (that I don't need) and which one wants to mug me or otherwise harm me. " | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman
If it was a woman I’d have a much better chance at winning
Assuming women are weaker. Misogyny!
Haha but prey, most of them are! (Side note, some of us can kick arse pretty fucking well. I’d not want to be the man who attacks me on a walk home in the dark because he’d get pain)
As a general rule, with less bulk and strength to rely on, the worst people to face that way are people that have to employ craftier methods. One big bloke relying on brute strength is generally predictable and has the usual weak spots. Some tiny looks like no threat person generally has a lot more tricks up their sleeve
I can attest to this theory. I fight dirty.
My advice to women would be to never rely on fighting, even
Your at a huge disadvantage
Please don’t believe this “I’m tough and crafty, I know their weak spots, I fight dirty” mentality. You will get hurt
Such a bad mentality that leads to a false sense of security.
My advice would be fight. Elbow to the throat. Knee in the bollocks. Run like fuck. That’s a good mentality. A bad mentality is telling women they’re weak and they’ll get hurt. I’ll fight and take a black eye or broken nose, leave the cunt with his bollocks in his chest and struggling to breathe on the floor over lying back and letting it happen
Just to explain myself
I mean don’t walk the street thinking “I’m tough I fight dirty I can handle myself”
You can’t against a guy and that mentality will put you in danger. Never rely on fighting to ensure your safety. You are weak and helpless against 99.9% of men if they want to hurt you
Obviously when the time comes, fight for your life "Weak & helpless? You actually were doing better before you “explained yourself” | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man "Nor are we allowed to go to the pub on your own and have a drink at the bar on your own or people will accuse you of trying to hook up men. Sometimes we or I anyway, want a quiet drink. | |||
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Nor are we allowed to go to the pub on your own and have a drink at the bar on your own or people will accuse you of trying to hook up men. Sometimes we or I anyway, want a quiet drink. "I go to the pub all the time by myself. I always have. | |||
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"Can I throw “Being a woman of colour” into the mix… *takes cover*. Such a great film! " You can! Please do share and contribute your lived experience. | |||
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" Weak & helpless? You actually were doing better before you “explained yourself”" Hey, if you wanna live in a fantasy world where you can fight off men, that’s on you. It’s not gonna go down like it does in Charlie’s Angels I’d always tell the women in my life to run, scream, beg, anything to keep you safe and out of harms way Fighting should always be the last resort, especially for women. The reality of life is that in most cases, you can’t protect yourself I dunno the legality of pepper spray in this country, but that would be a better equaliser | |||
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" Weak & helpless? You actually were doing better before you “explained yourself” Hey, if you wanna live in a fantasy world where you can fight off men, that’s on you. It’s not gonna go down like it does in Charlie’s Angels I’d always tell the women in my life to run, scream, beg, anything to keep you safe and out of harms way Fighting should always be the last resort, especially for women. The reality of life is that in most cases, you can’t protect yourself I dunno the legality of pepper spray in this country, but that would be a better equaliser " Pepper spray and other incapacitants are not legal. | |||
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"Can I throw “Being a woman of colour” into the mix… *takes cover*. Such a great film! " Of course! | |||
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"As a side note some interesting comments which are irrelevant to the thread such as 'nice tits' and 'coffee time' which aren't mirrored in the male thread... " Very true. Because whether people like to admit it or not, misogyny is alive and well. Especially on here | |||
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Nor are we allowed to go to the pub on your own and have a drink at the bar on your own or people will accuse you of trying to hook up men. Sometimes we or I anyway, want a quiet drink. "I didn't get that memo | |||
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"As a side note some interesting comments which are irrelevant to the thread such as 'nice tits' and 'coffee time' which aren't mirrored in the male thread. Very true. Because whether people like to admit it or not, misogyny is alive and well. Especially on here "Its Absofuckinglutely thriving. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Nor are we allowed to go to the pub on your own and have a drink at the bar on your own or people will accuse you of trying to hook up men. Sometimes we or I anyway, want a quiet drink.
I didn't get that memo"I've been accused of that or a staff member asks me 'why are you here drinking on your own again' that coming from a female staff member. | |||
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" Weak & helpless? You actually were doing better before you “explained yourself” Hey, if you wanna live in a fantasy world where you can fight off men, that’s on you. It’s not gonna go down like it does in Charlie’s Angels I’d always tell the women in my life to run, scream, beg, anything to keep you safe and out of harms way Fighting should always be the last resort, especially for women. The reality of life is that in most cases, you can’t protect yourself I dunno the legality of pepper spray in this country, but that would be a better equaliser " I’m also not stupid. I don’t envisage myself as Black Widow or something. My go to is obviously run/scream. I’m fully aware that I am at a physical disadvantage. But I have (and will again) fight when I have no way out. And I do fight dirty and for my life. Not a fantasy - sadly a fact. So don’t you ever dare tell me that I’m weak or helpless. | |||
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"As a side note some interesting comments which are irrelevant to the thread such as 'nice tits' and 'coffee time' which aren't mirrored in the male thread. Very true. Because whether people like to admit it or not, misogyny is alive and well. Especially on here
Its Absofuckinglutely thriving. "God I love that word. Absofuckinglutely that is. Not misogyny | |||
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"And fighting should not be a last resort. Women should be situationally aware (sadly). And should be able to defend themselves enough to get away from an unsafe situation. These are taught skills, which whilst aren't foolproof, are useful. Learning how being attacked feels like and how to respond are helpful. Then these skills could be used if needed. Boys learn to fight naturally, this should be extended to girls too. It's society that suppresses this. Whilst girls are supposed to be nice and ladylike, we're not helping ourselves. Sexual attacks are about power not sex. " I fucking love you sprockett | |||
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"And fighting should not be a last resort. Women should be situationally aware (sadly). And should be able to defend themselves enough to get away from an unsafe situation. These are taught skills, which whilst aren't foolproof, are useful. Learning how being attacked feels like and how to respond are helpful. Then these skills could be used if needed. Boys learn to fight naturally, this should be extended to girls too. It's society that suppresses this. Whilst girls are supposed to be nice and ladylike, we're not helping ourselves. Sexual attacks are about power not sex. " Spot on. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Nor are we allowed to go to the pub on your own and have a drink at the bar on your own or people will accuse you of trying to hook up men. Sometimes we or I anyway, want a quiet drink.
I go to the pub all the time by myself. I always have. "Glad I'm not the only one who would go to the pub on their own.   | |||
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"And fighting should not be a last resort. Women should be situationally aware (sadly). And should be able to defend themselves enough to get away from an unsafe situation. These are taught skills, which whilst aren't foolproof, are useful. Learning how being attacked feels like and how to respond are helpful. Then these skills could be used if needed. Boys learn to fight naturally, this should be extended to girls too. It's society that suppresses this. Whilst girls are supposed to be nice and ladylike, we're not helping ourselves. Sexual attacks are about power not sex. I fucking love you sprockett "I'm very pleased you do FC. 
The whole subject has riled me up.
Society and People really make me cross.
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"And fighting should not be a last resort. Women should be situationally aware (sadly). And should be able to defend themselves enough to get away from an unsafe situation. These are taught skills, which whilst aren't foolproof, are useful. Learning how being attacked feels like and how to respond are helpful. Then these skills could be used if needed. Boys learn to fight naturally, this should be extended to girls too. It's society that suppresses this. Whilst girls are supposed to be nice and ladylike, we're not helping ourselves. Sexual attacks are about power not sex. I fucking love you sprockett
I'm very pleased you do FC.
The whole subject has riled me up.
Society and People really make me cross.
Can we not develop sufficiently to stop sexual violence and murder against any human? "And that’s why we fight, we argue, we keep going until it stops! | |||
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"And fighting should not be a last resort. Women should be situationally aware (sadly). And should be able to defend themselves enough to get away from an unsafe situation. These are taught skills, which whilst aren't foolproof, are useful. Learning how being attacked feels like and how to respond are helpful. Then these skills could be used if needed. Boys learn to fight naturally, this should be extended to girls too. It's society that suppresses this. Whilst girls are supposed to be nice and ladylike, we're not helping ourselves. Sexual attacks are about power not sex. " That last line is probably the most powerful statement in the entire thread | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is." It really isn't. | |||
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"Can always count on men. " Or women if you run out of fingers | |||
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"Can always count on men. " I just can't count! | |||
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"Can always count on men. I just can't count!" that's the ladybrain for you | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. It really isn't. " Really, you don't find it strange that few it any will give a legal definition of the word? | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. It really isn't. Really, you don't find it strange that few it any will give a legal definition of the word?" I can assure you, no women walking alone at night are worried about the definition of their gender That’s culture war bullshit you’ve fallen for | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. It really isn't. Really, you don't find it strange that few it any will give a legal definition of the word?" I didn't know there were legal definitions for any gender. How does the law define "man" and can you please point me to a Act of Parliament or Amendment that defines as such? Thank you. | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. It really isn't. Really, you don't find it strange that few it any will give a legal definition of the word? I can assure you, no women walking alone at night are worried about the definition of their gender That’s culture war bullshit you’ve fallen for " I tell you what WG, normally I don’t like your posts but every so often I do | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. It really isn't. Really, you don't find it strange that few it any will give a legal definition of the word? Wtf are you talking about ?" Culture war bullshit. Distraction from real issues. | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime? "Ha ha... Currently in this state. I honestly care less and less about what people "expect" from me, being a woman. I've ticked the child bearing box, never really had a long term relationship, but I don't need someone else to "complete me". I think too many people place far too much importance on someone else to validate them. | |||
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"That’s didn’t take long to go exactly as imagine Guys, if your afraid of being murdered on the way home, none of you mentioned that in the men’s thread Weird that you left it for this one " You know we sometimes have those threads about realising you were maybe wrong about someone. Hands up, I think I was wrong. J | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. It really isn't. Really, you don't find it strange that few it any will give a legal definition of the word?" Nope. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. It definitely isn't the most difficult part of being a woman for me. | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. " I think a lot of issues are "in relation" to others. Like, being in a wheelchair isn't a problem if everywhere has adequate stable ramps, clean safe toilets, lifts that are working and will accommodate them, people who keep their hands to themselves, etc. A wheelchair is a means of transportation. But because people are chucklefucks and the system is not set up to allow people in wheelchairs to get around safely, it becomes a problem. Similarly, being a woman isn't a problem. There are problems that make being a woman more difficult. | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. " The words you've used to describe the women in your life are all the typical "emotion" type words that are considered positive attributes for women. I find that interesting in itself. Honestly, I don't have that many women in my life. My mother is estranged (my choice) and I don't have any other female relatives. My female friends and colleagues are all highly intelligent, hard working in their respective fields and very independently minded. As a linked thing, it's been interesting for me as the parent of a female child after having a male child first. The "praise" that many people default to about our daughter is how she looks. Not anything else. I find that frustrating. No-one started with "oh, how lovely your outfit is" to my son, when he was 6. | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. I think a lot of issues are "in relation" to others. Like, being in a wheelchair isn't a problem if everywhere has adequate stable ramps, clean safe toilets, lifts that are working and will accommodate them, people who keep their hands to themselves, etc. A wheelchair is a means of transportation. But because people are chucklefucks and the system is not set up to allow people in wheelchairs to get around safely, it becomes a problem. Similarly, being a woman isn't a problem. There are problems that make being a woman more difficult. " That wasn't really my point. My point was that of all the things women choose to bring up for a thread about being a woman - it's all about dealing with men. I don't deny the problems that exist. | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. The words you've used to describe the women in your life are all the typical "emotion" type words that are considered positive attributes for women. I find that interesting in itself. Honestly, I don't have that many women in my life. My mother is estranged (my choice) and I don't have any other female relatives. My female friends and colleagues are all highly intelligent, hard working in their respective fields and very independently minded. As a linked thing, it's been interesting for me as the parent of a female child after having a male child first. The "praise" that many people default to about our daughter is how she looks. Not anything else. I find that frustrating. No-one started with "oh, how lovely your outfit is" to my son, when he was 6. " oh eww (about compliments to your daughter). what century is this? | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime? "But if your single , why can't you wake up on a Sunday and stay in PJ's and not have a bath until bedtime ? ..I am just retired and always in pjs until lunchtime most days...it's one of the joys of not rushing out to work om a dark cold morning... | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. I think a lot of issues are "in relation" to others. Like, being in a wheelchair isn't a problem if everywhere has adequate stable ramps, clean safe toilets, lifts that are working and will accommodate them, people who keep their hands to themselves, etc. A wheelchair is a means of transportation. But because people are chucklefucks and the system is not set up to allow people in wheelchairs to get around safely, it becomes a problem. Similarly, being a woman isn't a problem. There are problems that make being a woman more difficult. That wasn't really my point. My point was that of all the things women choose to bring up for a thread about being a woman - it's all about dealing with men. I don't deny the problems that exist. " I mean, it does tend to be men who uphold the systems we have problems with? (some women too. pick me/ not like other girls etc) | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. The words you've used to describe the women in your life are all the typical "emotion" type words that are considered positive attributes for women. I find that interesting in itself. Honestly, I don't have that many women in my life. My mother is estranged (my choice) and I don't have any other female relatives. My female friends and colleagues are all highly intelligent, hard working in their respective fields and very independently minded. As a linked thing, it's been interesting for me as the parent of a female child after having a male child first. The "praise" that many people default to about our daughter is how she looks. Not anything else. I find that frustrating. No-one started with "oh, how lovely your outfit is" to my son, when he was 6. " Id use some of those words for the men in my life too. I think they reflect what's important to me. I've got kids of both sexes and have gone out of my way to be equal in terms of compliments and avoid talking to my daughter only about her looks. I know it's an easy trap! I was very sad when my adult son asked recently if he was handsome. He thought he was ugly. I clearly didn't do my job.  | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. I think a lot of issues are "in relation" to others. Like, being in a wheelchair isn't a problem if everywhere has adequate stable ramps, clean safe toilets, lifts that are working and will accommodate them, people who keep their hands to themselves, etc. A wheelchair is a means of transportation. But because people are chucklefucks and the system is not set up to allow people in wheelchairs to get around safely, it becomes a problem. Similarly, being a woman isn't a problem. There are problems that make being a woman more difficult. That wasn't really my point. My point was that of all the things women choose to bring up for a thread about being a woman - it's all about dealing with men. I don't deny the problems that exist. I mean, it does tend to be men who uphold the systems we have problems with? (some women too. pick me/ not like other girls etc)" It doesn't matter. I'm clearly not explaining myself if my point isn't clear. | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. The words you've used to describe the women in your life are all the typical "emotion" type words that are considered positive attributes for women. I find that interesting in itself. Honestly, I don't have that many women in my life. My mother is estranged (my choice) and I don't have any other female relatives. My female friends and colleagues are all highly intelligent, hard working in their respective fields and very independently minded. As a linked thing, it's been interesting for me as the parent of a female child after having a male child first. The "praise" that many people default to about our daughter is how she looks. Not anything else. I find that frustrating. No-one started with "oh, how lovely your outfit is" to my son, when he was 6. Id use some of those words for the men in my life too. I think they reflect what's important to me. I've got kids of both sexes and have gone out of my way to be equal in terms of compliments and avoid talking to my daughter only about her looks. I know it's an easy trap! I was very sad when my adult son asked recently if he was handsome. He thought he was ugly. I clearly didn't do my job. "I don't never say anything to my children about appearance, to be clear. It's just interesting that for complete strangers, the most common "off the cuff" comments to our daughter are something like "oh, doesn't she look beautiful" or something about her clothes, whereas for our son, it might have been "gosh, isn't he so polite" or "how kind of him to do XYZ". Both my children are/were kind and polite. Both are/were well turned out. It's just curious to me. (I say "were" for my son because he's now an adult) | |||
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"Only read the op and not the comments but you don’t have to be anything. I never even think about anything of that. I just get on and do me. Maybe it’s my age or I just don't overthink. I don’t know. " I have not read it either but will agree whether a man or a woman you can only be yourself, not try to conform to stereotypes or expectations of others. Look after yourself, respect others and be the best you can in whatever you do in a comfortable, realistic and happy manner. Life is hard as it is. Why make it harder by trying to be anything else than just you and remembering that you will never meet the expectations of everybody else. If you try to, life will be even harder than already is. That's my mantra but of course evrryone is different. | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. The words you've used to describe the women in your life are all the typical "emotion" type words that are considered positive attributes for women. I find that interesting in itself. Honestly, I don't have that many women in my life. My mother is estranged (my choice) and I don't have any other female relatives. My female friends and colleagues are all highly intelligent, hard working in their respective fields and very independently minded. As a linked thing, it's been interesting for me as the parent of a female child after having a male child first. The "praise" that many people default to about our daughter is how she looks. Not anything else. I find that frustrating. No-one started with "oh, how lovely your outfit is" to my son, when he was 6. Id use some of those words for the men in my life too. I think they reflect what's important to me. I've got kids of both sexes and have gone out of my way to be equal in terms of compliments and avoid talking to my daughter only about her looks. I know it's an easy trap! I was very sad when my adult son asked recently if he was handsome. He thought he was ugly. I clearly didn't do my job.
I don't never say anything to my children about appearance, to be clear. It's just interesting that for complete strangers, the most common "off the cuff" comments to our daughter are something like "oh, doesn't she look beautiful" or something about her clothes, whereas for our son, it might have been "gosh, isn't he so polite" or "how kind of him to do XYZ".
Both my children are/were kind and polite. Both are/were well turned out.
It's just curious to me.
(I say "were" for my son because he's now an adult)"I found this to be the case with mine too | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. " It was a female bar staff member(not a male staff member) who questioned me as to why I'm sitting at the bar on my own. | |||
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"I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men. How we protect ourselves, fight, go to the pub on our own. I find that a real shame because women are amazing just as they are without any reference to men. The women in my life are emotionally strong, resilient, caring, supportive, thoughtful and loving. Those aren't traits that only women possess, but that's what stands out for me and I aspire to. It was a female bar staff member(not a male staff member) who questioned me as to why I'm sitting at the bar on my own. "Social conditioning innit | |||
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""I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men". Because men perpetute the issues women suffer from. Sexual violence. Unfair pay. Harassment. Misogyny. Bloody unfair pension decisions List goes on." Bang on. Appearance. Behaviour. Know your place | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime?
But if your single , why can't you wake up on a Sunday and stay in PJ's and not have a bath until bedtime ? ..I am just retired and always in pjs until lunchtime most days...it's one of the joys of not rushing out to work om a dark cold morning..."Why does one have to be single to do these things? | |||
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"The most difficult part is, in 2024 legally no one can define what a woman is. I disagree. As a woman, I’d argue the most difficult part is still not being able to walk home in the dark on your own in case you get murdered by a man
Hey now. Violent crime is like 9:1 for perpetrators, so there's a 10% chance it could be by a woman "I'll argue that it's highly unlikely a woman out on her own will be stalked and attacked by a woman. I didn't specifically state at night because we've had women and girls attacked in broad daylight local to me in the past few years. I think crimes should be put into subdivisions when being used as data for statistics. | |||
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""I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men". Because men perpetute the issues women suffer from. Sexual violence. Unfair pay. Harassment. Misogyny. Bloody unfair pension decisions List goes on. Bang on. Appearance. Behaviour. Know your place " Don't get me started on 'nice lady'. | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime?
But if your single , why can't you wake up on a Sunday and stay in PJ's and not have a bath until bedtime ? ..I am just retired and always in pjs until lunchtime most days...it's one of the joys of not rushing out to work om a dark cold morning...
Why does one have to be single to do these things?"I'm not single and still in my PJs! I'm about to have a shower | |||
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""I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men". Because men perpetute the issues women suffer from. Sexual violence. Unfair pay. Harassment. Misogyny. Bloody unfair pension decisions List goes on." We're not just a group of people who're victims of things men perpetuate. | |||
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"Is this the speech from Barbie? I’ve still not watched it - maybe I’ll rectify that today! "I didn’t like the film. I did like that speech though. | |||
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"It ain't easy for you ladies! I respect you and the battle alot. You look good, smell good, I like being near you alot. Near/inside etc whatever What about when we don’t wanna look good or smell good? Why can’t we wake up on a Sunday and slob about with no makeup in our pjs and not have a bath until bedtime?
But if your single , why can't you wake up on a Sunday and stay in PJ's and not have a bath until bedtime ? ..I am just retired and always in pjs until lunchtime most days...it's one of the joys of not rushing out to work om a dark cold morning...
Why does one have to be single to do these things?"One has to not have small people to do these things in my experience of life MrsAbz | |||
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""I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men". Because men perpetute the issues women suffer from. Sexual violence. Unfair pay. Harassment. Misogyny. Bloody unfair pension decisions List goes on. We're not just a group of people who're victims of things men perpetuate. "Neither does it mean they don't happen. | |||
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""I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men". Because men perpetute the issues women suffer from. Sexual violence. Unfair pay. Harassment. Misogyny. Bloody unfair pension decisions List goes on. We're not just a group of people who're victims of things men perpetuate. "And I wouldn't choose to use the word Victim either. | |||
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""I still think this thread is mostly about women in relation to men". Because men perpetute the issues women suffer from. Sexual violence. Unfair pay. Harassment. Misogyny. Bloody unfair pension decisions List goes on. We're not just a group of people who're victims of things men perpetuate.
Neither does it mean they don't happen. ""What does it mean to be a woman" "violence and misogyny" Where please did I say they don't happen. I'm a woman and I am MUCH more than the things that a patriarchal society inflicts on me. You do you. | |||
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