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How do I ask the wife?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So yes I swing, but the wife does not know. (Cheating some may say)Yes I think you are correct. Anyway I have a feeling that my wife has or had a bi side to her. So that got me thinking can I get her in to this? I open this to the floor, and I may get a hard time from some of you. But 99% of you have never met or know me nor likely too. So please go ahead with your good bad and if it calls for it ugly replies. Love to all xx |
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By *anictechCouple
over a year ago
Glasgow - ish ;-) |
Ultimately, you risk losing her.
This scene is fraught with life choices, Ultimately if your relationship is secure your probaly fine, but if its not? She may well find the man of her dreams in a meet. Are you prepared for that? XxX MT |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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do you have open chat about all things sexual - or is it kept under the bedclothes so to speak - just wondered as it would make a difference to how you approach this |
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I think there is a big difference between finding out if she is bi, and getting her into swinging. If she did say yes she was bi, how would that help you? except if you fancy watching?? Not sure how the 2 link to be honest.  |
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"I think there is a big difference between finding out if she is bi, and getting her into swinging. If she did say yes she was bi, how would that help you? except if you fancy watching?? Not sure how the 2 link to be honest. "
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"I think there is a big difference between finding out if she is bi, and getting her into swinging. If she did say yes she was bi, how would that help you? except if you fancy watching?? Not sure how the 2 link to be honest. "
Very correct, I just put that in as away of thinking it may be the idea that gets her thinking about having fun. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"i would just ask her outright to be honest .. my bloke brought it into the conversation and I was immediately interested .. hope all works out for you both what ever you dicide to do  "
Did he swing before you met him or after you met? |
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"I think there is a big difference between finding out if she is bi, and getting her into swinging. If she did say yes she was bi, how would that help you? except if you fancy watching?? Not sure how the 2 link to be honest.
Very correct, I just put that in as away of thinking it may be the idea that gets her thinking about having fun. "
She may already be having bi fun...... us ladies do you know.....and some do it without their partner/hubby knowing. Also called cheating I guess, but whats good for the goose etc |
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"I think there is a big difference between finding out if she is bi, and getting her into swinging. If she did say yes she was bi, how would that help you? except if you fancy watching?? Not sure how the 2 link to be honest.
Very correct, I just put that in as away of thinking it may be the idea that gets her thinking about having fun.
She may already be having bi fun...... us ladies do you know.....and some do it without their partner/hubby knowing. Also called cheating I guess, but whats good for the goose etc "
Very true, but very hard to do with her life, work kids grandson etc, but you never know. |
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Good luck here mate. I spent nearly 20 years with my ex wife. Mainly back in the day before internet and like you I cheated a bit. I bet you are feeling pretty bad about the cheating and wouldn't be great if she could just see your side of it without blowing her top and getting all silly about it.
Swinging is all about trust and the one cardinal rule you may have already broken is the trust thing. Anyway I tried to get her to swing I told her outright about my Bi side and how I was happy for her to meet other men. Before I knew what the term meant, I guess I wanted to be a cuck. She just told me I was the only one she wanted and that I should stop asking. Porno is disgusting and depraved too. In the end I decided I couldn't stand it any more. I didn't want to carry on cheating and asked her for a trial separation.
Best thing to do is to be brave. Bring the subject up somehow and then decide if you like the answer she gives you or not. One of the things you should respect her for is that your cheating is not fair at all because of the health risks you are exposing her too. You can even get nasty things if you use rubbers so I personally don't think cheating is right for that reason.
Once again good luck with whatever the answer is. I now live with a fantastic person that indulges us both in many of our inner most fantasies and we are happy with the consequences. Let's hope your wife already is that person. |
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"i would just ask her outright to be honest .. my bloke brought it into the conversation and I was immediately interested .. hope all works out for you both what ever you dicide to do
Did he swing before you met him or after you met?"
He had never done it before but I'd told him previously that an ex and me used to have a male friend join us quite often and he had obviously gone on to check out some websites as a result .. happy days ! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"i would just ask her outright to be honest .. my bloke brought it into the conversation and I was immediately interested .. hope all works out for you both what ever you dicide to do
Did he swing before you met him or after you met?
He had never done it before but I'd told him previously that an ex and me used to have a male friend join us quite often and he had obviously gone on to check out some websites as a result .. happy days ! "
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"Good luck here mate. I spent nearly 20 years with my ex wife. Mainly back in the day before internet and like you I cheated a bit. I bet you are feeling pretty bad about the cheating and wouldn't be great if she could just see your side of it without blowing her top and getting all silly about it.
Swinging is all about trust and the one cardinal rule you may have already broken is the trust thing. Anyway I tried to get her to swing I told her outright about my Bi side and how I was happy for her to meet other men. Before I knew what the term meant, I guess I wanted to be a cuck. She just told me I was the only one she wanted and that I should stop asking. Porno is disgusting and depraved too. In the end I decided I couldn't stand it any more. I didn't want to carry on cheating and asked her for a trial separation.
Best thing to do is to be brave. Bring the subject up somehow and then decide if you like the answer she gives you or not. One of the things you should respect her for is that your cheating is not fair at all because of the health risks you are exposing her too. You can even get nasty things if you use rubbers so I personally don't think cheating is right for that reason.
Once again good luck with whatever the answer is. I now live with a fantastic person that indulges us both in many of our inner most fantasies and we are happy with the consequences. Let's hope your wife already is that person."
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It's a tricky one. If you'd both been on an even keel (ie you'd not been doing it behind her back) it would probably be a lot more simple, but because you already have the knowledge, you know the ropes, and don't be under any illusion - unless you're a very clever fella, she'll soon pick up that you know about it, you're in a tricky situation.
Had you both been equal, I'd have suggested watching a couple of pornos, a few drinks then asking if she'd like what he's having bla bla bla bla bla ... then the conversation either picks up momentum or it's dead in the water, either way you could blame the drink in the morning if it fell flat but if it was met with approval, take it forward. Bottom line is this - it all depends upon how open minded your Mrs is .... Mrs Red and I both started by camming on a stupid site, then tried dogging, then tried swinging where I only watched or played with Mrs Red, then we went on to the full thing, and even now, we are still morphing and developing the lifestyle, so there's another angle to look at - don't go in all guns blazing, take it a step at a time and maybe in 12months you'll both be comfortable doing what you do .. |
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"So yes I swing, but the wife does not know. (Cheating some may say)Yes I think you are correct. Anyway I have a feeling that my wife has or had a bi side to her. So that got me thinking can I get her in to this? I open this to the floor, and I may get a hard time from some of you. But 99% of you have never met or know me nor likely too. So please go ahead with your good bad and if it calls for it ugly replies. Love to all xx "
Honesty, first last and foremost.
It is no good at all saying to a bunch of internet strangers that you "have a feeling" that she is or was bi...you need to be asking her. My advice, turn your lap top off and spend some time talking to your wife, don't discuss her with strangers and show her enough respect to discuss your sex life with her.
The common theme with all these threads is that the guy seems to want a magic fix to get his wife involved in swinging without actually having to have the awkward conversation. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So yes I swing, but the wife does not know. (Cheating some may say)Yes I think you are correct. Anyway I have a feeling that my wife has or had a bi side to her. So that got me thinking can I get her in to this? I open this to the floor, and I may get a hard time from some of you. But 99% of you have never met or know me nor likely too. So please go ahead with your good bad and if it calls for it ugly replies. Love to all xx
Honesty, first last and foremost.
It is no good at all saying to a bunch of internet strangers that you "have a feeling" that she is or was bi...you need to be asking her. My advice, turn your lap top off and spend some time talking to your wife, don't discuss her with strangers and show her enough respect to discuss your sex life with her.
The common theme with all these threads is that the guy seems to want a magic fix to get his wife involved in swinging without actually having to have the awkward conversation."
Thank you for that, as I said the good bad and ugly replies. Not sure which one yours is, but thank you once again, you’re correct in what you say. xx |
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The common theme with all these threads is that the guy seems to want a magic fix to get his wife involved in swinging without actually having to have the awkward conversation."
i never read it like that at all .. i read it that the guy would like to engage his wife in a conversation about this but is unsure of the best way forward to do that and is asking for feed back from people who have already ventured down this road |
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"These threads are always dynamite. Getting the popcorn and settling down for this one...."
There are so many of these threads every day. If the authors really gave a shit they'd read the other advice on similar threads...but no.
I'm not going to reply...ooh...  |
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The common theme with all these threads is that the guy seems to want a magic fix to get his wife involved in swinging without actually having to have the awkward conversation.
i never read it like that at all .. i read it that the guy would like to engage his wife in a conversation about this but is unsure of the best way forward to do that and is asking for feed back from people who have already ventured down this road "
Possibly but if he truly wanted to engage her in conversation he would already know if she was bi rather than "have a feeling". Read his profile, he describes himself as a true gent yet find it perfectly acceptable to discuss his wife with strangers without her knowledge. |
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"So yes I swing, but the wife does not know. (Cheating some may say)Yes I think you are correct. Anyway I have a feeling that my wife has or had a bi side to her. So that got me thinking can I get her in to this? I open this to the floor, and I may get a hard time from some of you. But 99% of you have never met or know me nor likely too. So please go ahead with your good bad and if it calls for it ugly replies. Love to all xx
Honesty, first last and foremost.
It is no good at all saying to a bunch of internet strangers that you "have a feeling" that she is or was bi...you need to be asking her. My advice, turn your lap top off and spend some time talking to your wife, don't discuss her with strangers and show her enough respect to discuss your sex life with her.
The common theme with all these threads is that the guy seems to want a magic fix to get his wife involved in swinging without actually having to have the awkward conversation.
Thank you for that, as I said the good bad and ugly replies. Not sure which one yours is, but thank you once again, you’re correct in what you say. xx"
It was none of the above it was just my honest opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So yes I swing, but the wife does not know. (Cheating some may say)Yes I think you are correct. Anyway I have a feeling that my wife has or had a bi side to her. So that got me thinking can I get her in to this? I open this to the floor, and I may get a hard time from some of you. But 99% of you have never met or know me nor likely too. So please go ahead with your good bad and if it calls for it ugly replies. Love to all xx
Honesty, first last and foremost.
It is no good at all saying to a bunch of internet strangers that you "have a feeling" that she is or was bi...you need to be asking her. My advice, turn your lap top off and spend some time talking to your wife, don't discuss her with strangers and show her enough respect to discuss your sex life with her.
The common theme with all these threads is that the guy seems to want a magic fix to get his wife involved in swinging without actually having to have the awkward conversation.
Thank you for that, as I said the good bad and ugly replies. Not sure which one yours is, but thank you once again, you’re correct in what you say. xx"
You asked for advice....and got advice....
Have to agree, how would you feel if your wife was posting threads about you on here? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Let your wife set the pace.
Talk to her about her fantasies, and if she really has a bi-curious side ... DON'T EVER TELL HER that you're on here.
Tell her "I've heard about a site called FabSwingers, maybe it will be a good thing for US to explore?".
Delete your old profile, and start again as a newbie couple.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good luck here mate. I spent nearly 20 years with my ex wife. Mainly back in the day before internet and like you I cheated a bit. I bet you are feeling pretty bad about the cheating and wouldn't be great if she could just see your side of it without blowing her top and getting all silly about it.
Swinging is all about trust and the one cardinal rule you may have already broken is the trust thing. Anyway I tried to get her to swing I told her outright about my Bi side and how I was happy for her to meet other men. Before I knew what the term meant, I guess I wanted to be a cuck. She just told me I was the only one she wanted and that I should stop asking. Porno is disgusting and depraved too. In the end I decided I couldn't stand it any more. I didn't want to carry on cheating and asked her for a trial separation.
Best thing to do is to be brave. Bring the subject up somehow and then decide if you like the answer she gives you or not. One of the things you should respect her for is that your cheating is not fair at all because of the health risks you are exposing her too. You can even get nasty things if you use rubbers so I personally don't think cheating is right for that reason.
Once again good luck with whatever the answer is. I now live with a fantastic person that indulges us both in many of our inner most fantasies and we are happy with the consequences. Let's hope your wife already is that person.
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Can't add anything to the above other than too.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Thanks again guys for all your replies. Its as I expected some good ones. and some from people who seem to like to judge people. As I said 99% of you dont know me, and If you did maybe you would understand what I was asking, some of you did. I had PM's from a couple of you that really did understand, thanks to you xxx.
As some of you have said I should have looked at other posts with the same subject, I could have, but remember we our all differant, and have differant lives. And my work and life is not the norm by a long way. As I said you do not know me and what I do as a job, so some of you may need to just chill a wee bit. Love to all, take care and play safe I do. xxxx |
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Why do you want your wife into swinging, is it because you feel guilty about doing it behind her back?
Is it because you want to see her with other men or women?
Is it that you think you may get more meets as a couple?
Ask yourself, honestly, why do you want her to swing and for who's benefit? |
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"Why do you want your wife into swinging, is it because you feel guilty about doing it behind her back?
Is it because you want to see her with other men or women?
Is it that you think you may get more meets as a couple?
Ask yourself, honestly, why do you want her to swing and for who's benefit? "
I have no guilt in doing what you all do.
I may be wrong, but hoping it may be something she would like!!!
That’s why I asked the question, to see if people on here have had the same dilemma.
With ref meets I do ok thank you.
So why do you swing?
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Let's not try and pull the wool over anyone's eyes here. You already know how to lie as you've been here for five months, and you have four verifications on your profile (and that's only the ones you're prepared to admit to). I'm sure you'll come up with a valid reason for being here for five months that your wife will believe (you could probably say you wanted to check the scene out first before telling her about it, but you will have to delete your profile and start again as she's sure to find out eventually).
Your problem lies in not broaching the subject with her, that's the easy part, but what will you do if she agrees and you go into swinging together and start meeting people? I'm sure you'll take great care to monitor messages carefully and intercept messages from people you've already had sex with but that's not going to be so easy to do if you decide to go to a club and one of them is there. How will you explain that someone knows you intimately is telling your wife what a great lover you are etc etc?
As Red said above, if you'd gone into this together it would be plain sailing and all above board and honest, but you didn't, so now you face the prospect of living a lie for the rest of your marriage regardless of whether she agrees to swing or not.
You could, of course, fess up and take whatever comes, but I suspect that's not an option for you. |
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"Why do you want your wife into swinging, is it because you feel guilty about doing it behind her back?
Is it because you want to see her with other men or women?
Is it that you think you may get more meets as a couple?
Ask yourself, honestly, why do you want her to swing and for who's benefit?
I have no guilt in doing what you all do.
I may be wrong, but hoping it may be something she would like!!!
That’s why I asked the question, to see if people on here have had the same dilemma.
With ref meets I do ok thank you.
So why do you swing?
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I was widowed, loved my partner dearly and couldn't love another as I did him. I swing because I like sex without any relationship.
It's purely a physical thing and therefor doesn't diminish the love I still feel for my deceased partner. |
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"And my work and life is not the norm by a long way. As I said you do not know me and what I do as a job, so some of you may need to just chill a wee bit. Love to all, take care and play safe I do. xxxx "
Come off it! It is very pretentious in the least to suggest that because you have a stressful job that it somehow excuses what you've been doing. If you want honest and frank advice please don't play the "but I'm a special case" card, as it won't wash, not on here. |
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"And my work and life is not the norm by a long way. As I said you do not know me and what I do as a job, so some of you may need to just chill a wee bit. Love to all, take care and play safe I do. xxxx
Come off it! It is very pretentious in the least to suggest that because you have a stressful job that it somehow excuses what you've been doing. If you want honest and frank advice please don't play the "but I'm a special case" card, as it won't wash, not on here."
Please forgive me I’m not a special case not one bit. But some of you guys are so judgemental. I do not know you, and would never judge or pass comment on your life, so please do not do the same to me. |
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"Thanks again guys for all your replies. Its as I expected some good ones. and some from people who seem to like to judge people. As I said 99% of you dont know me, and If you did maybe you would understand what I was asking, some of you did. I had PM's from a couple of you that really did understand, thanks to you xxx.
As some of you have said I should have looked at other posts with the same subject, I could have, but remember we our all differant, and have differant lives. And my work and life is not the norm by a long way. As I said you do not know me and what I do as a job, so some of you may need to just chill a wee bit. Love to all, take care SMS play safe I do. xxxx "
Self indulgent twaddle, you're pulling the wool over your own eyes as well as your wifes.. Clearly you are looking for answers that back up and reinforce your own opinion that you're somehow exempt from accepted standards of loyalty within a relationship.
Go with the people who have sent you supportive private messages you won't listen to anyone giving you advice that might be in the best interests of your relationship with your wife which makes me wonder why you even posted.
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"And my work and life is not the norm by a long way. As I said you do not know me and what I do as a job, so some of you may need to just chill a wee bit. Love to all, take care and play safe I do. xxxx
Come off it! It is very pretentious in the least to suggest that because you have a stressful job that it somehow excuses what you've been doing. If you want honest and frank advice please don't play the "but I'm a special case" card, as it won't wash, not on here.
Please forgive me I’m not a special case not one bit. But some of you guys are so judgemental. I do not know you, and would never judge or pass comment on your life, so please do not do the same to me. "
You ASKED for our opinions. Sheesh!  |
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No one here can know your wife better than you do, unless of course she's playing the same game that you are.
Deep down you know what her reaction will be. If you thought for one minute that she'd be up for it, you'd already be here as a couple.
Best of luck |
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"Why do you want your wife into swinging, is it because you feel guilty about doing it behind her back?
Is it because you want to see her with other men or women?
Is it that you think you may get more meets as a couple?
Ask yourself, honestly, why do you want her to swing and for who's benefit?
I have no guilt in doing what you all do.
I may be wrong, but hoping it may be something she would like!!!
That’s why I asked the question, to see if people on here have had the same dilemma.
With ref meets I do ok thank you.
So why do you swing?
I was widowed, loved my partner dearly and couldn't love another as I did him. I swing because I like sex without any relationship.
It's purely a physical thing and therefor doesn't diminish the love I still feel for my deceased partner. "
I am in the same boat, I'm divorced but not by my choice. I just don't want the emotional side of a relationship but love my sex |
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"And my work and life is not the norm by a long way. As I said you do not know me and what I do as a job, so some of you may need to just chill a wee bit. Love to all, take care and play safe I do. xxxx
Come off it! It is very pretentious in the least to suggest that because you have a stressful job that it somehow excuses what you've been doing. If you want honest and frank advice please don't play the "but I'm a special case" card, as it won't wash, not on here.
Please forgive me I’m not a special case not one bit. But some of you guys are so judgemental. I do not know you, and would never judge or pass comment on your life, so please do not do the same to me. "
Aren't you judging us by assuming we are all cheating? |
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"No one here can know your wife better than you do, unless of course she's playing the same game that you are.
Deep down you know what her reaction will be. If you thought for one minute that she'd be up for it, you'd already be here as a couple.
Best of luck"
exactly this. |
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"No one here can know your wife better than you do, unless of course she's playing the same game that you are.
Deep down you know what her reaction will be. If you thought for one minute that she'd be up for it, you'd already be here as a couple.
Best of luck
exactly this."
so very very true, I'm betting you know whether she'd like it or not.. |
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You're definitely cheating big man. The question is..why. What's wrong in your relationship that caused you to cheat in the first place. I would begin by addressing this problem rather than trying to change someones way of thinking. Honesty is always the best solution. Even if it means you get your arse kicked and thrown out. Best of luck either way bud.,  |
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"And my work and life is not the norm by a long way. As I said you do not know me and what I do as a job, so some of you may need to just chill a wee bit. Love to all, take care and play safe I do. xxxx
Come off it! It is very pretentious in the least to suggest that because you have a stressful job that it somehow excuses what you've been doing. If you want honest and frank advice please don't play the "but I'm a special case" card, as it won't wash, not on here.
Please forgive me I’m not a special case not one bit. But some of you guys are so judgemental. I do not know you, and would never judge or pass comment on your life, so please do not do the same to me.
You ASKED for our opinions. Sheesh! "
I did and it’s not a problem with your replies. But some of you guys just need to chill. You all have valid points but why are some of you so OTT. Just chill it’s not as if I'm going be hide your back. And I'm not slagging my wife off. Just asking a few questions. Chill the sun is out here in the Dessert. |
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I must admit the OP has me laughng out loud with his supercilious attitude!
Anyway at least we can all rest safe in the knowledge that he isn't going behind our backs, what a relief! Shame he doesn't afford his wife thh same opportunity ...oh but wait we don't know anything about him or his "special" circumstances.
I get the whiff of wind up here!
To the OP I wish you luck and joy I wish your wife luck, joy and respect. |
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"And my work and life is not the norm by a long way. As I said you do not know me and what I do as a job, so some of you may need to just chill a wee bit. Love to all, take care and play safe I do. xxxx
Come off it! It is very pretentious in the least to suggest that because you have a stressful job that it somehow excuses what you've been doing. If you want honest and frank advice please don't play the "but I'm a special case" card, as it won't wash, not on here.
Please forgive me I’m not a special case not one bit. But some of you guys are so judgemental. I do not know you, and would never judge or pass comment on your life, so please do not do the same to me. "
We do not know you and any judgement is based on what you are posting... |
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"So yes I swing, but the wife does not know. (Cheating some may say)Yes I think you are correct. Anyway I have a feeling that my wife has or had a bi side to her. So that got me thinking can I get her in to this? I open this to the floor, and I may get a hard time from some of you. But 99% of you have never met or know me nor likely too. So please go ahead with your good bad and if it calls for it ugly replies. Love to all xx "
The answer to that is carefully, when she is sober and not in the kitchen near any knifes! |
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On another thread like this I made the point that swining almost certainly won;t fix a failling relationship.
OP, why have you chosen to swing alone? And equally why do you think your wife would want to swing, and if she does what do you think that that would bring to your relationship? |
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"And my work and life is not the norm by a long way. As I said you do not know me and what I do as a job, so some of you may need to just chill a wee bit. Love to all, take care and play safe I do. xxxx
Come off it! It is very pretentious in the least to suggest that because you have a stressful job that it somehow excuses what you've been doing. If you want honest and frank advice please don't play the "but I'm a special case" card, as it won't wash, not on here.
Please forgive me I’m not a special case not one bit. But some of you guys are so judgemental. I do not know you, and would never judge or pass comment on your life, so please do not do the same to me. "
Easy to avoid: don't post pretending to seek advice, just continue doing what you're doing. |
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"So yes I swing, but the wife does not know. (Cheating some may say)Yes I think you are correct. Anyway I have a feeling that my wife has or had a bi side to her. So that got me thinking can I get her in to this? I open this to the floor, and I may get a hard time from some of you. But 99% of you have never met or know me nor likely too. So please go ahead with your good bad and if it calls for it ugly replies. Love to all xx "
I have no idea how you will do it but would gladly pat for the privilege of coming down to watch you do it if thats at all possible. |
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"Seriously, you might want to reconsider your last post Cheeky, no one wants time in the cooler do they?"
lol I didnt swear at anyone? And im not trying to insult anyone.... Just felt like swearing..... |
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"Seriously, you might want to reconsider your last post Cheeky, no one wants time in the cooler do they?
lol I didnt swear at anyone? And im not trying to insult anyone.... Just felt like swearing..... "
so two guys on the same thread who don't liek to take advice |
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"So yes I swing, but the wife does not know. (Cheating some may say)Yes I think you are correct. Anyway I have a feeling that my wife has or had a bi side to her. So that got me thinking can I get her in to this? I open this to the floor, and I may get a hard time from some of you. But 99% of you have never met or know me nor likely too. So please go ahead with your good bad and if it calls for it ugly replies. Love to all xx "
It may have been better to have mentioned swinging to your wife before you decided to join and meet on own!
Only you know if your wife would be into swinging!
Maybe sit down with her and have an open honest conversation about your fantasies and hers. |
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