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"I only meet single guys, but saying that. How would I know they weren't married or attached? Not all guys tell the truth. Quite a few lie to get a quickie.. If I was to meet a guy that weren't single, I wouldn't have a repeat that's for sure.." I don't meet in hotels, don't invite anyone into my home that doesn't accommodate, don't do quickies with men I don't know...pretty much rules out married men. | |||
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"I've met a lot of lads that have gf's, it doesn't bother me as long as they're honest about it, I hate liars :/" You really don't see the irony of your post do you? | |||
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"I've met a lot of lads that have gf's, it doesn't bother me as long as they're honest about it, I hate liars :/ You really don't see the irony of your post do you? " | |||
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"I only meet single guys, but saying that. How would I know they weren't married or attached? Not all guys tell the truth. Quite a few lie to get a quickie.. If I was to meet a guy that weren't single, I wouldn't have a repeat that's for sure.. I don't meet in hotels, don't invite anyone into my home that doesn't accommodate, don't do quickies with men I don't know...pretty much rules out married men." Not really. Few guys I have chatted to (not met) on here that are attached or married, but still accommodate. Yes they were honest enough to tell me they were but they don't tell all. Its none of my business to be honest. I've never met in a hotel and wouldn't, unless I've met them a few times already. And only met in my home if I've been to theirs.. as for quickies with men you don't know. (I don't do quickies myself) I thought we were all strangers till we get to know each other by chatting?? | |||
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"I only meet single guys, but saying that. How would I know they weren't married or attached? Not all guys tell the truth. Quite a few lie to get a quickie.. If I was to meet a guy that weren't single, I wouldn't have a repeat that's for sure.. I don't meet in hotels, don't invite anyone into my home that doesn't accommodate, don't do quickies with men I don't know...pretty much rules out married men. Not really. Few guys I have chatted to (not met) on here that are attached or married, but still accommodate. Yes they were honest enough to tell me they were but they don't tell all. Its none of my business to be honest. I've never met in a hotel and wouldn't, unless I've met them a few times already. And only met in my home if I've been to theirs.. as for quickies with men you don't know. (I don't do quickies myself) I thought we were all strangers till we get to know each other by chatting??" Thing is, I don't play "nice". I use paddles, whips, wax etc. I also like to shave playmates. I think a married man would have trouble explaining the marks on his body and disappearing pubic hair. I had no qualms about meeting married men initialy, but I'm here for my hedonistic pleasure and married men are not ideal playmates for me. I remember one asking me not to use scented candles, air freshner, perfume etc and have a specific shower gel...bless him trying to dictate to me in my house...nah...married men not playmates for me. | |||
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"In my nativity would it be fair to say a number of so called couple profiles are just a guy and his wife/ partner knows nothing about it. " depends a small amount are, but generally they are easy to spot ( no veri's, female cant talk on the phone, unwilling to meet ) its all about trusting your gut on these things. | |||
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"In my nativity would it be fair to say a number of so called couple profiles are just a guy and his wife/ partner knows nothing about it. depends a small amount are, but generally they are easy to spot ( no veri's, female cant talk on the phone, unwilling to meet ) its all about trusting your gut on these things." I'm sure you're right. I have come across guys wanting to break the ice on their own rather than with their partner | |||
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"I don't judge and I think people shouldn't but it's up to the other person to be honest.. " We ALL judge who we play with! | |||
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"I don't judge and I think people shouldn't but it's up to the other person to be honest.. We ALL judge who we play with!" | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. " So true | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. " | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. So true " NO ONE deserves to be cheated on. If a relationship is over at least show some respect and have the dignity to end it before persuing other avenue's | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. " you may be right but there is still no place in swinging for cheating. | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. you may be right but there is still no place in swinging for cheating." Cheating as in, their partner not knowing they swing even though they still love their partner. | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. you may be right but there is still no place in swinging for cheating." i don't think because your a bitch you need to be cheated on | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. So true " Wow..... Really????? Guess that Just shows your level of respect for others!!! | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. " Is this because the husbands have you told you " my wife doesn't understand me" No one deserves to be cheated on! In my _iew only cowards cheat as they don't have the balls to be honest with their partner!! | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. So true Wow..... Really????? Guess that Just shows your level of respect for others!!! " | |||
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"99.9% of men are cheating on here anyway " Really? Not sure that's true | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick?" Neither. If there was no obstacle in the way of shagging them (and I fancied them) I would shag them. Usually though they can only meet for 30 mins during the afternoon of the third Thursday after a full moon, so plenty of obstacles there! | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick?" Neither. It is not for me to judge what they choose to do. If there is a mutual attraction - I'm up for it... | |||
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"After reading this got my little grey cells thinking, I wonder if anyone has ever had it where they are attached and they got a profile chat too lots of people but don't display their picture, get chatting to someone decide to swop pictures and it's their partner so their both lying and cheating. If you not happy in a relationship leave and let them find someone who appreciates them and wants them I say but that's my opinion. And if people stay together for their kids or situation then don't coz it doesn't in long run make life any easier. " I've never cheated, I'm single now. So can't but in relationships I wouldn't, if I wanted to I'd think there were something wrong.. | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick?" We wouldn't rush into it as irate partners phoning you up on his or her phone as happened to our friend is a pain. We wouldn't loose sleep though if we found out after a meet someone was attached as its their business not ours. What I would say though is we would rather meet a polite charming well mannered married person than a arsy egotistical single one. | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick? We wouldn't rush into it as irate partners phoning you up on his or her phone as happened to our friend is a pain. We wouldn't loose sleep though if we found out after a meet someone was attached as its their business not ours. What I would say though is we would rather meet a polite charming well mannered married person than a arsy egotistical single one. " That makes a lot if sense too | |||
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"99.9% of men are cheating on here anyway " Is that an admission that you're cheating then? Or are you one of the 0.1%? | |||
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"I'm a cheat, I'll not live the rest of my life in enforced celibacy nor will I destroy my family and live as a single man in some garret feeling bitter about what might have been. If I play at a club non one asks me if I'm married first. If you don't want to meet a cheat that's fine by me. I'll not set out to lie my way into the arms of a girl who s not interested " So if ur found out to be a cheat will that not destroy and break up your family in a far more bitter way than just ending things amicabally.. Vows are for better or worse, not for better and better for me | |||
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"Not just the guys people, plenty of women cheat too.......and not every thing is black and white, as much as they shouldn't be doing it until we walk in their shoes for a few days I wouldn't judge them, just take the decision weather to meet them or not. A" We have met with 2 fems who were married, 1 plays with permission and the other behind hubbies back as he doesn't fulfill all her needs. We don't judge we just make a decision on how well we get on, so yes its not just men who do it | |||
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"I've met a lot of lads that have gf's, it doesn't bother me as long as they're honest about it, I hate liars :/ You really don't see the irony of your post do you? " | |||
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"I'm a cheat, I'll not live the rest of my life in enforced celibacy nor will I destroy my family and live as a single man in some garret feeling bitter about what might have been. If I play at a club non one asks me if I'm married first. If you don't want to meet a cheat that's fine by me. I'll not set out to lie my way into the arms of a girl who s not interested So if ur found out to be a cheat will that not destroy and break up your family in a far more bitter way than just ending things amicabally.. Vows are for better or worse, not for better and better for me" Totally agree with you. The thing is the come back will be " oh i wont ever get caught" Really !!!!!! you think not !!! | |||
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"99.9% of men are cheating on here anyway " Are we bollocks | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick?" Personally i think the one who is being the "cheat" is the one who has a problem. | |||
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"I've met a lot of lads that have gf's, it doesn't bother me as long as they're honest about it, I hate liars :/ You really don't see the irony of your post do you? " I was just thinking the same!! | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick? Personally i think the one who is being the "cheat" is the one who has a problem." just sometimes though maybe the wife should take a look at herself instead of blaming the cheating hubby. | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. So true " No!! If they are that much of a bitch then leave! Honestly some comments on here baffle me. | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick? Personally i think the one who is being the "cheat" is the one who has a problem. just sometimes though maybe the wife should take a look at herself instead of blaming the cheating hubby." Then it still stands of why would the guy wanna be with her then! Leave.. | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick? Personally i think the one who is being the "cheat" is the one who has a problem. just sometimes though maybe the wife should take a look at herself instead of blaming the cheating hubby." Or maybe the woman meeting the cheating hubby shouldn't necessarily believe his 'oh, woe is me, my wife's such a bitch' spiel that he's probably spinning to get his leg over! | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. " Some women are right bitches, agreed. How that correlates with being cheated on escapes me. | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick? Personally i think the one who is being the "cheat" is the one who has a problem. just sometimes though maybe the wife should take a look at herself instead of blaming the cheating hubby." People are responsible for their own actions. They aren't forced or told to do it by their partners. Its a decesion they make themselves. | |||
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"I guess I started the post to get a general response to how people feel about cheating on here. Very mixed replies. I personally am a cheat, I'm not proud of it but its not because I or she has any problems. We tried swinging before, it wasn't her thing. She couldn't bare the thought of seeing me with another woman. I tried to reassure her, that others would just be sex and thrills, she would always come first and be the one woman I made love to. I'm not looking for a way out or for something I'm lacking, I'm just intrested in this scene. If I get caught out, ill tell her how I feel, til then I don't see the point causing tension." And by the time ur caught out u will have destroyed the woman u claim to love.. Tell her now! Then choose which is more important to u, her or the swinging scene U can't have ur cake and eat it! | |||
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"I guess I started the post to get a general response to how people feel about cheating on here. Very mixed replies. I personally am a cheat, I'm not proud of it but its not because I or she has any problems. We tried swinging before, it wasn't her thing. She couldn't bare the thought of seeing me with another woman. I tried to reassure her, that others would just be sex and thrills, she would always come first and be the one woman I made love to. I'm not looking for a way out or for something I'm lacking, I'm just intrested in this scene. If I get caught out, ill tell her how I feel, til then I don't see the point causing tension." Oh dear, Im not judging, just dont get you at all. You say you love your wife to bits, .... if she finds out, the hurt will destroy her, she will never never trust you again and your relationship will never ever be the same. Im speaking from experience. You are not cheating because of a need for sex that you are not getting at home. So therefore she will see it purely as her fault. Please dont see this as judgemental, its just my _iew of your situation. I wish you good luck . x | |||
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"I guess I started the post to get a general response to how people feel about cheating on here. Very mixed replies. I personally am a cheat, I'm not proud of it but its not because I or she has any problems. We tried swinging before, it wasn't her thing. She couldn't bare the thought of seeing me with another woman. I tried to reassure her, that others would just be sex and thrills, she would always come first and be the one woman I made love to. I'm not looking for a way out or for something I'm lacking, I'm just intrested in this scene. If I get caught out, ill tell her how I feel, til then I don't see the point causing tension. And by the time ur caught out u will have destroyed the woman u claim to love.. Tell her now! Then choose which is more important to u, her or the swinging scene U can't have ur cake and eat it!" Personally I don't think anyone has the right to dictate how others live their lives; we each take responsibility for our own actions. All I ask is married men respect my wishes not to meet them and recognise I'm not their wives, I don't find their bullshit endearing, won't change my mind so leave me alone. | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick? Personally i think the one who is being the "cheat" is the one who has a problem. just sometimes though maybe the wife should take a look at herself instead of blaming the cheating hubby. Or maybe the woman meeting the cheating hubby shouldn't necessarily believe his 'oh, woe is me, my wife's such a bitch' spiel that he's probably spinning to get his leg over! " i meet men who i think are suitable for me, they dont usually even mention their wives, i am not interested either. | |||
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"I guess I started the post to get a general response to how people feel about cheating on here. Very mixed replies. I personally am a cheat, I'm not proud of it but its not because I or she has any problems. We tried swinging before, it wasn't her thing. She couldn't bare the thought of seeing me with another woman. I tried to reassure her, that others would just be sex and thrills, she would always come first and be the one woman I made love to. I'm not looking for a way out or for something I'm lacking, I'm just intrested in this scene. If I get caught out, ill tell her how I feel, til then I don't see the point causing tension." This can only end badly I fear, agree with the others that if she didn't want to swing because she couldn't bear the thought of you being with other woman then when she finds out you've carried on behind her back the damage will be irreparable and the woman you love so much won't want to be with you any more. I'd have a serious think if its worth losing her over? | |||
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"I guess I started the post to get a general response to how people feel about cheating on here. Very mixed replies. I personally am a cheat, I'm not proud of it but its not because I or she has any problems. We tried swinging before, it wasn't her thing. She couldn't bare the thought of seeing me with another woman. I tried to reassure her, that others would just be sex and thrills, she would always come first and be the one woman I made love to. I'm not looking for a way out or for something I'm lacking, I'm just intrested in this scene. If I get caught out, ill tell her how I feel, til then I don't see the point causing tension." So there is nothing lacking in your relationship your totally happy togther. I was of the understanding that "swinging" was something that was ventured into by couples as a couple. Well that's where it originally started. Nowadays its just a mask. What's more important to you? Your relationship which has no problems, which isnt lacking in any way or, getting your rocks off elsewhere. | |||
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"I guess I started the post to get a general response to how people feel about cheating on here. Very mixed replies. I personally am a cheat, I'm not proud of it but its not because I or she has any problems. We tried swinging before, it wasn't her thing. She couldn't bare the thought of seeing me with another woman. I tried to reassure her, that others would just be sex and thrills, she would always come first and be the one woman I made love to. I'm not looking for a way out or for something I'm lacking, I'm just intrested in this scene. If I get caught out, ill tell her how I feel, til then I don't see the point causing tension. And by the time ur caught out u will have destroyed the woman u claim to love.. Tell her now! Then choose which is more important to u, her or the swinging scene U can't have ur cake and eat it! Personally I don't think anyone has the right to dictate how others live their lives; we each take responsibility for our own actions. All I ask is married men respect my wishes not to meet them and recognise I'm not their wives, I don't find their bullshit endearing, won't change my mind so leave me alone." Totally agree and if my actions of going with a cheat will lead upset for someone else then I'm not doing it! I'm not selfish enough to hurt others | |||
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"some women are right bitches who realy quite deserve to be cheated on. you may be right but there is still no place in swinging for cheating. Cheating as in, their partner not knowing they swing even though they still love their partner. " yes thats cheating and its nothing to do with swinging, also i said maybe they were right with the bitch comment i did not agree. | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick? Personally i think the one who is being the "cheat" is the one who has a problem. just sometimes though maybe the wife should take a look at herself instead of blaming the cheating hubby." Good God! I cannot believe you really believe that. Absolutely appalling comment - you are clearly a woman who's never been betrayed, had your trust ruined and your confidence shattered by a man who has cheated. | |||
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"The thing is she knows I'm on here, she is absolutely fine with me going with men, its just women she has a problem with. She knows I could never have feelings for a guy, but she doesn't understand whilst she is my woman I couldn't have feelings for anyone else, period." Your profile clearly states she DOESNT know you are on here. ???? | |||
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"I set it up differently in front of her and gradually changed it." In a week? you have only been on here a week! I smell a rat | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick? Personally i think the one who is being the "cheat" is the one who has a problem. just sometimes though maybe the wife should take a look at herself instead of blaming the cheating hubby. Good God! I cannot believe you really believe that. Absolutely appalling comment - you are clearly a woman who's never been betrayed, had your trust ruined and your confidence shattered by a man who has cheated. " | |||
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"The thing is she knows I'm on here, she is absolutely fine with me going with men, its just women she has a problem with. She knows I could never have feelings for a guy, but she doesn't understand whilst she is my woman I couldn't have feelings for anyone else, period. Your profile clearly states she DOESNT know you are on here. ????" You expect him to be honest and consistent?!! | |||
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"The thing is she knows I'm on here, she is absolutely fine with me going with men, its just women she has a problem with. She knows I could never have feelings for a guy, but she doesn't understand whilst she is my woman I couldn't have feelings for anyone else, period. Your profile clearly states she DOESNT know you are on here. ???? You expect him to be honest and consistent?!! " Im obviously too trusting, bit like his wife ! My whole _iew of the discussion changed in his last 2 posts. | |||
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"The op wasn't necessarily about me, it was just a general scenario to see reactions. Depends on the nature of the affair, if it was purely a sexual thing then id be fine with it, as long as she was safe. But if was more emotional.. yeah that would hurt, I'd either have to step up my game or step off. Ain't really thought about it." Your profile says she doesn't know either. If she doesn't mind you meeting men then why not just meet men and just sleep with her not other woman? That way you get to enjoy your bi side, still have a bit of fun and don't run the risk of upsetting her? | |||
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" I'd either have to step up my game or step off. " An affair is nothing to do with the other person needing to step their game up. My ex had a 2 year affair and the only thing that changed was my working hours. If he hadn't been fucking her behind my back we would have had time to see each other and do things. The icing on the cake for me was him ruining a day out to "go and watch the football" I left him a few days later. | |||
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" I'd either have to step up my game or step off. An affair is nothing to do with the other person needing to step their game up. My ex had a 2 year affair and the only thing that changed was my working hours. If he hadn't been fucking her behind my back we would have had time to see each other and do things. The icing on the cake for me was him ruining a day out to "go and watch the football" I left him a few days later. " Sorry to hear that. Well if it was something I was doing wrong or not.doing enough of, I'd step up. If she fell for someone else, I'd be gutted but would just have to wish her the best and let her know I'd be there if she needed anything. | |||
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"Got to be honest if a woman was married I wouldn't care if I fancied her and she was up for it. Not my fault if her partner cant keep her happy is it. " If that's how you think, when you meet couples do you also assume you're there because the husband can't satisfy his wife alone? | |||
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" I'd either have to step up my game or step off. An affair is nothing to do with the other person needing to step their game up. My ex had a 2 year affair and the only thing that changed was my working hours. If he hadn't been fucking her behind my back we would have had time to see each other and do things. The icing on the cake for me was him ruining a day out to "go and watch the football" I left him a few days later. Sorry to hear that. Well if it was something I was doing wrong or not.doing enough of, I'd step up. If she fell for someone else, I'd be gutted but would just have to wish her the best and let her know I'd be there if she needed anything." This is the point I'm making - it wasn't my short falling that broke our relationship, it was his inability to keep his cock in his pants. It wasn't that I wasn't a supportive girlfriend, it was that he was a twat who was flattered by a 21 year old throwing herself at him and was too cowardly to sort the situation in the way he should have done. | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick? Personally i think the one who is being the "cheat" is the one who has a problem. just sometimes though maybe the wife should take a look at herself instead of blaming the cheating hubby. Good God! I cannot believe you really believe that. Absolutely appalling comment - you are clearly a woman who's never been betrayed, had your trust ruined and your confidence shattered by a man who has cheated. " Luckily she'll meet people no matter what their circumstance because if she were in a relationship no doubt she'd get cheated on, being a bitch and all! | |||
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"I see your points. Yes my relationship is very important to me, but in the same breath its my life and ill only get one so I'd like to do the things I want. I know the response will be leave her, but I do think the world of her. I'd love to just talk to her about how I feel but I really don't think shed accept it." That seems rather selfish. Surely in a relationship that is important to you then you wouldn't go out of your way to hurt to lie and potentially hurt someone that you think the world of. | |||
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"It is selfish but as we all know relationships come and go, people fall in love and fall out of love, the only consistent thing in my life will always me." sounds to me like you need to look at your relationship before complicating things and hurting your girlfriend by cheating on her. That would be the unselfish thing to do... | |||
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"I've met a lot of lads that have gf's, it doesn't bother me as long as they're honest about it, I hate liars :/" This for me. Xx | |||
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"I've met a lot of lads that have gf's, it doesn't bother me as long as they're honest about it, I hate liars :/ This for me. Xx " They are liars tho! Lol. Just not lying to you. | |||
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"Anyway thank you everyone for your inputs, I posted here because I'm truly at a struggle with myself. I want to tell her and her to accept it and possibly join in, but I'm just worried shell say no and it cause tension. I know I'm taking the cowards route out... And putting all this into words has made me feel guilty.... I have to try talk to her at least." I think your right. Good luck x | |||
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" And the comments about women who 'deserve' to be cheated on...seriously! No one deserves to be deceived by their other half regardless of how much of a 'bitch' they may be. Why marry someone you have no respect for? " Plus there's just as many bastards as there are bitches, assuming they deserve it too in that case? | |||
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"Cheating? Cheating! Guess I dislike that word more than anything on this site because it is invariably used by some to point fingers at others and to judge them for what they believe they are doing. Point 1 : We never know the whole story of a relationship. Point 2 : If we did, we still would not be able to know what it feels like to be that person. Point 3 : I dont see the need to judge others for what they are doing (mainly because of point 1 and 2) Point 4 : It is not my business what others do. Point 5 : I have a choice to meet/ or not to meet people who are in a relationship. Nobody forces me. Point 6 : I do not wish/ intend to upset anybody directly or indirectly by the above statements - I am coming from a general perspective. Point 7 : "Cheating" is by definition a word with negative connotations in the swinging world. That is why I dislike it. " PS I forgot point 8 Point 8 : In my world people do not get what they deserve. I would like to qualify this as I do believe in karma and things coming round to us, good and bad. But assuming that every "cheater" should be punished is agreeing to say that they are all guilty of some crime in the first place. Not all are. Why do we as humans have this need to see others punished even when it hsa nothing to do with us? | |||
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"Cheating? Cheating! Guess I dislike that word more than anything on this site because it is invariably used by some to point fingers at others and to judge them for what they believe they are doing. Point 1 : We never know the whole story of a relationship. Point 2 : If we did, we still would not be able to know what it feels like to be that person. Point 3 : I dont see the need to judge others for what they are doing (mainly because of point 1 and 2) Point 4 : It is not my business what others do. Point 5 : I have a choice to meet/ or not to meet people who are in a relationship. Nobody forces me. Point 6 : I do not wish/ intend to upset anybody directly or indirectly by the above statements - I am coming from a general perspective. Point 7 : "Cheating" is by definition a word with negative connotations in the swinging world. That is why I dislike it. " Excellent points | |||
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"Cheating? Cheating! Guess I dislike that word more than anything on this site because it is invariably used by some to point fingers at others and to judge them for what they believe they are doing. Point 1 : We never know the whole story of a relationship. Point 2 : If we did, we still would not be able to know what it feels like to be that person. Point 3 : I dont see the need to judge others for what they are doing (mainly because of point 1 and 2) Point 4 : It is not my business what others do. Point 5 : I have a choice to meet/ or not to meet people who are in a relationship. Nobody forces me. Point 6 : I do not wish/ intend to upset anybody directly or indirectly by the above statements - I am coming from a general perspective. Point 7 : "Cheating" is by definition a word with negative connotations in the swinging world. That is why I dislike it. PS I forgot point 8 Point 8 : In my world people do not get what they deserve. I would like to qualify this as I do believe in karma and things coming round to us, good and bad. But assuming that every "cheater" should be punished is agreeing to say that they are all guilty of some crime in the first place. Not all are. Why do we as humans have this need to see others punished even when it hsa nothing to do with us? " pompous anger and a condescending outlook perhaps..? but maybe not applied to ones own self..? | |||
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"I think we should all live like the Polynesians, all live in one BIG HUT and move about a lot. Loads of guys see me when they say they are straight I also see lots of married guys and that's not a problem for me, I even state that in my profile. If someone can't keep a leash on their partner don't expect me to do it for them. Jenny" | |||
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"Cheating? Cheating! Guess I dislike that word more than anything on this site because it is invariably used by some to point fingers at others and to judge them for what they believe they are doing. Point 1 : We never know the whole story of a relationship. Point 2 : If we did, we still would not be able to know what it feels like to be that person. Point 3 : I dont see the need to judge others for what they are doing (mainly because of point 1 and 2) Point 4 : It is not my business what others do. Point 5 : I have a choice to meet/ or not to meet people who are in a relationship. Nobody forces me. Point 6 : I do not wish/ intend to upset anybody directly or indirectly by the above statements - I am coming from a general perspective. Point 7 : "Cheating" is by definition a word with negative connotations in the swinging world. That is why I dislike it. PS I forgot point 8 Point 8 : In my world people do not get what they deserve. I would like to qualify this as I do believe in karma and things coming round to us, good and bad. But assuming that every "cheater" should be punished is agreeing to say that they are all guilty of some crime in the first place. Not all are. Why do we as humans have this need to see others punished even when it hsa nothing to do with us? " points 1 & 2 are very much covered by the vows of marriage of the basis of commitment.. also covered by the fact that if their relationship is that bad why be in it? all cheaters are lying and decieving.. if u lie and decieve someone to gain money is that not a crime? people lie and decieve for personal gain of something.. selfish actions. selfishness in my books is a bad trait. just saying | |||
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"Cheating? Cheating! Guess I dislike that word more than anything on this site because it is invariably used by some to point fingers at others and to judge them for what they believe they are doing. Point 1 : We never know the whole story of a relationship. Point 2 : If we did, we still would not be able to know what it feels like to be that person. Point 3 : I dont see the need to judge others for what they are doing (mainly because of point 1 and 2) Point 4 : It is not my business what others do. Point 5 : I have a choice to meet/ or not to meet people who are in a relationship. Nobody forces me. Point 6 : I do not wish/ intend to upset anybody directly or indirectly by the above statements - I am coming from a general perspective. Point 7 : "Cheating" is by definition a word with negative connotations in the swinging world. That is why I dislike it. PS I forgot point 8 Point 8 : In my world people do not get what they deserve. I would like to qualify this as I do believe in karma and things coming round to us, good and bad. But assuming that every "cheater" should be punished is agreeing to say that they are all guilty of some crime in the first place. Not all are. Why do we as humans have this need to see others punished even when it hsa nothing to do with us? points 1 & 2 are very much covered by the vows of marriage of the basis of commitment.. also covered by the fact that if their relationship is that bad why be in it? all cheaters are lying and decieving.. if u lie and decieve someone to gain money is that not a crime? people lie and decieve for personal gain of something.. selfish actions. selfishness in my books is a bad trait. just saying " oh and point 3 - not judging someone to be able to see their actions are selfish.. unless you can give me a valid reason for a person to cheat that is not a selfish one..?? | |||
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"it is selfish to have sex with a bloke who is married but we are all selfish in one way or another. just because my partner hasnt cheated on me, that i know of doesnt mean i dont know what it would feel like either. doesnt mean to say i have to feel sorry for everyone who its happened too. these things happen and sometimes people get what they deserve, what goes around comes round." This is the second time you have said that some people deserve to be cheated on. I really don't understand this, perhaps you could explain what people deserve this? | |||
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"I see your points. Yes my relationship is very important to me, but in the same breath its my life and ill only get one so I'd like to do the things I want. I know the response will be leave her, but I do think the world of her. I'd love to just talk to her about how I feel but I really don't think shed accept it." how ideal would life be if we could have everything we wanted! sadly that is a very unrealistic _iew and also a very selfish _iew to say its your life.. if you choose to share your life then that doesnt apply anymore entirely!! | |||
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"It is selfish but as we all know relationships come and go, people fall in love and fall out of love, the only consistent thing in my life will always me." yopur being very confusing, first f all u talk about the girl u love madly and her not knowing ur on here.. then she knows ur on here and now she doesnt mean that much to u as relationships come and go.. | |||
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"The whole scenario is very confusing. He says she knew he was making a profile to meet men and didnt mind. He changed this gradually, cos he was innundated with messages from guys and is losing interest in guys. He has now ended up with profile to meet women. Which his gf doesnt know about. A gf who he adores. Its a hell of a lot of action for 1 week on the site. Call me shallow but I feel the word 'b*llsh*t' coming. " you dont think that that reason he has created to allow himself to cheat has been shattered with logic and reality that he just comes up with another reason to ok it? | |||
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"The whole scenario is very confusing. He says she knew he was making a profile to meet men and didnt mind. He changed this gradually, cos he was innundated with messages from guys and is losing interest in guys. He has now ended up with profile to meet women. Which his gf doesnt know about. A gf who he adores. Its a hell of a lot of action for 1 week on the site. Call me shallow but I feel the word 'b*llsh*t' coming. you dont think that that reason he has created to allow himself to cheat has been shattered with logic and reality that he just comes up with another reason to ok it? " Very possibly, .......... and if she knows he is on here, see's his new profile and he cant deny it ( as his face is very clear in his pics) then it will be whole new thread.....'my gf doesnt understand me' | |||
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"Well we spoke at length. I told her how I felt and that this is something I want to do but I don't want to go behind her back. She told me she was worried that I would want to spend more and more time with the same person, go out on nights out and stay and develop feelings. I explained its not the case, shell always come first, I wouldn't cancel plans or put her off for this. She thought she was doing something wrong causing me to go elsewhere but she isn't. She's agreed to try it as long as it doesn't change us, with a few ground rules. I feel kinda shitty for telling her as she was upset but I do feel releived as I don't have to sneak about anymore." You've had time to hold an in depth discussion about something so important whilst typing on here?!! Yeah...right!!! | |||
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"Well we spoke at length. I told her how I felt and that this is something I want to do but I don't want to go behind her back. She told me she was worried that I would want to spend more and more time with the same person, go out on nights out and stay and develop feelings. I explained its not the case, shell always come first, I wouldn't cancel plans or put her off for this. She thought she was doing something wrong causing me to go elsewhere but she isn't. She's agreed to try it as long as it doesn't change us, with a few ground rules. I feel kinda shitty for telling her as she was upset but I do feel releived as I don't have to sneak about anymore." So if we said we'd be interested in meeting you she'sd be happy to speak on the phone to confirm all that? | |||
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"Well we spoke at length. I told her how I felt and that this is something I want to do but I don't want to go behind her back. She told me she was worried that I would want to spend more and more time with the same person, go out on nights out and stay and develop feelings. I explained its not the case, shell always come first, I wouldn't cancel plans or put her off for this. She thought she was doing something wrong causing me to go elsewhere but she isn't. She's agreed to try it as long as it doesn't change us, with a few ground rules. I feel kinda shitty for telling her as she was upset but I do feel releived as I don't have to sneak about anymore. So if we said we'd be interested in meeting you she'sd be happy to speak on the phone to confirm all that?" | |||
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" Id have to speak to her crystal wheels but I don't see why it would be a problem. We did speak months back when me and her where trying couples but I beleive we never went through with it because of the woman issue." The woman issue? As I recall, we swapped a few (at most) messages and then you described her more like a possession than a person and we stopped messaging you as we weren't interesting in someone who appeared to lack respect for their partner. In all honesty our gut instinct back then appears to have been correct. | |||
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"Cheating? Cheating! Guess I dislike that word more than anything on this site because it is invariably used by some to point fingers at others and to judge them for what they believe they are doing. Point 1 : We never know the whole story of a relationship. Point 2 : If we did, we still would not be able to know what it feels like to be that person. Point 3 : I dont see the need to judge others for what they are doing (mainly because of point 1 and 2) Point 4 : It is not my business what others do. Point 5 : I have a choice to meet/ or not to meet people who are in a relationship. Nobody forces me. Point 6 : I do not wish/ intend to upset anybody directly or indirectly by the above statements - I am coming from a general perspective. Point 7 : "Cheating" is by definition a word with negative connotations in the swinging world. That is why I dislike it. PS I forgot point 8 Point 8 : In my world people do not get what they deserve. I would like to qualify this as I do believe in karma and things coming round to us, good and bad. But assuming that every "cheater" should be punished is agreeing to say that they are all guilty of some crime in the first place. Not all are. Why do we as humans have this need to see others punished even when it hsa nothing to do with us? points 1 & 2 are very much covered by the vows of marriage of the basis of commitment.. also covered by the fact that if their relationship is that bad why be in it? all cheaters are lying and decieving.. if u lie and decieve someone to gain money is that not a crime? people lie and decieve for personal gain of something.. selfish actions. selfishness in my books is a bad trait. just saying oh and point 3 - not judging someone to be able to see their actions are selfish.. unless you can give me a valid reason for a person to cheat that is not a selfish one..??" I do understand where you are coming from,honestly I do. I just feel it is not my life and therefore I dont have the right to judge those people. | |||
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"Well we spoke at length. I told her how I felt and that this is something I want to do but I don't want to go behind her back. She told me she was worried that I would want to spend more and more time with the same person, go out on nights out and stay and develop feelings. I explained its not the case, shell always come first, I wouldn't cancel plans or put her off for this. She thought she was doing something wrong causing me to go elsewhere but she isn't. She's agreed to try it as long as it doesn't change us, with a few ground rules. I feel kinda shitty for telling her as she was upset but I do feel releived as I don't have to sneak about anymore." let me take out the words which are the most important "she was upset"....... and now you know why a lot of people won't consider playing with you...... me, personally, if i was hurting the person I profess to love move than any other.... and I know it is something I had a choice in whether to do or not.... I know what I would do.... | |||
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"Am I the only women who's hubby does not know there here?" I've seen a few profile from woman who are playing without their husbands knowledge x | |||
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"Am I the only women who's hubby does not know there here?" No, you are not. There are others. | |||
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"So glad it not just me" Why? Does it make you feel better knowing there are other cheating women on here? | |||
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"So glad it not just me" There are so many different profiles on here, some attached people are on here with their partner's knowledge and even consent, others have their own story and reasons. Either way, the site is open to all | |||
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"The whole scenario is very confusing. He says she knew he was making a profile to meet men and didnt mind. He changed this gradually, cos he was innundated with messages from guys and is losing interest in guys. He has now ended up with profile to meet women. Which his gf doesnt know about. A gf who he adores. Its a hell of a lot of action for 1 week on the site. Call me shallow but I feel the word 'b*llsh*t' coming. " Add to the above....... has spent time telling his lady and she now accepts it and he feels better. Double 'b*llsh*t. | |||
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"So glad it not just me There are so many different profiles on here, some attached people are on here with their partner's knowledge and even consent, others have their own story and reasons. Either way, the site is open to all " | |||
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"Louise and Scorpiogirl - all I am saying is this ; I dont believe you need to even explain why you are on here and what you are missing in your other relaitonship. I believe you (and everybody else on this site) has the right not to be judged. " | |||
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"We are all for a bit of extra fun, no one should judge anyone else.....each to there own I say" Thats fine, and I hope you continue to feel like that if it happens to you. Actually what i mean is, I hope it never happens to you . x | |||
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" Add to the above....... has spent time telling his lady and she now accepts it and he feels better. Double 'b*llsh*t. " I never said she felt better, that would just be silly. I'm going to play by her rules and see how it goes. I get the impression you think I'm lying about speaking to my partner, which would kinda defeat the whole point of me starting this post, as you have said yourself the majority of people don't care if someone has a partner or not. Surely id just seek out those people? | |||
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"each to their own, but I reserve the right to judge anyone on here. and them me... " Thank you! Judging others is human nature and it's interesting that the ones who claim they don't judge are usually the most judgemental of all | |||
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"each to their own, but I reserve the right to judge anyone on here. and them me... " I dont have a problem with people having different opinions, contrary opinions...people even judging. What I am really struggling with is the hostile attacks that sometimes happen not just in here but everywhere. | |||
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"each to their own, but I reserve the right to judge anyone on here. and them me... I dont have a problem with people having different opinions, contrary opinions...people even judging. What I am really struggling with is the hostile attacks that sometimes happen not just in here but everywhere. " a lot of the hostile attacks are nothing more than bluster to self elevate, get noticed, fit into the pack, get a leg over AND HURT from previous experiences/relationships | |||
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"each to their own, but I reserve the right to judge anyone on here. and them me... I dont have a problem with people having different opinions, contrary opinions...people even judging. What I am really struggling with is the hostile attacks that sometimes happen not just in here but everywhere. a lot of the hostile attacks are nothing more than bluster to self elevate, get noticed, fit into the pack, get a leg over AND HURT from previous experiences/relationships" | |||
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"each to their own, but I reserve the right to judge anyone on here. and them me... I dont have a problem with people having different opinions, contrary opinions...people even judging. What I am really struggling with is the hostile attacks that sometimes happen not just in here but everywhere. a lot of the hostile attacks are nothing more than bluster to self elevate, get noticed, fit into the pack, get a leg over AND HURT from previous experiences/relationships" Fair point | |||
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"each to their own, but I reserve the right to judge anyone on here. and them me... I dont have a problem with people having different opinions, contrary opinions...people even judging. What I am really struggling with is the hostile attacks that sometimes happen not just in here but everywhere. a lot of the hostile attacks are nothing more than bluster to self elevate, get noticed, fit into the pack, get a leg over AND HURT from previous experiences/relationships" Ain't that the truth!..... | |||
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"Im cheating when I meet someone because I have been married for a long time and we havent had sex for years. Its not the only reason, there are also no cuddles, kisses or even sitting with each other on sofa anymore. I met a man recently who I failed to notice on his profile that he was married wasnt till I was in his car going to hotel that I saw the ring and he showed me it in hotel room. Well, I was already there we had a great chat then went on to have some fun. Originally, I would refuse married men but had a blip this time. My fault not his. Lovely guy, if he wants to meet me again I wont say no but leaving it up to him. Also, is another married guy on here Id love to meet up with - he has couples profile with his wife, also single one too. We chat through that one, but not at the mo. " Why stay married if ur not getting what u want out of it? And why's everyone going on about judging all the time.. I said cheating is a selfish act unless someone can proove otherwise.. Noone has.. So I stand by the FACT cheaters are selfish | |||
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"Everyone's a little selfish don't you think?" In what way? | |||
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"The reason people are constantly judged on threads like this is because they choose to seek approval for their actions and decisions. " | |||
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"Everyone's a little selfish don't you think?" Yh I guess everyone has to be as part of natural instinct to survive.. But complete self centredness is a whole different matter.. So let me rephrase.. Cheaters are self centred. | |||
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"each to their own, but I reserve the right to judge anyone on here. and them me... I dont have a problem with people having different opinions, contrary opinions...people even judging. What I am really struggling with is the hostile attacks that sometimes happen not just in here but everywhere. a lot of the hostile attacks are nothing more than bluster to self elevate, get noticed, fit into the pack, get a leg over AND HURT from previous experiences/relationships" people may see them as hostile... others will see them as forthright... and I don't get the notion that because people are swingers, they should leave the moral compass they live by behind.... | |||
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"Everyone's a little selfish don't you think? Yh I guess everyone has to be as part of natural instinct to survive.. But complete self centredness is a whole different matter.. So let me rephrase.. Cheaters are self centred." I really don't think you can argue with that. | |||
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"Im cheating when I meet someone because I have been married for a long time and we havent had sex for years. Its not the only reason, there are also no cuddles, kisses or even sitting with each other on sofa anymore. I met a man recently who I failed to notice on his profile that he was married wasnt till I was in his car going to hotel that I saw the ring and he showed me it in hotel room. Well, I was already there we had a great chat then went on to have some fun. Originally, I would refuse married men but had a blip this time. My fault not his. Lovely guy, if he wants to meet me again I wont say no but leaving it up to him. Also, is another married guy on here Id love to meet up with - he has couples profile with his wife, also single one too. We chat through that one, but not at the mo. Why stay married if ur not getting what u want out of it? And why's everyone going on about judging all the time.. I said cheating is a selfish act unless someone can proove otherwise.. Noone has.. So I stand by the FACT cheaters are selfish" | |||
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"each to their own, but I reserve the right to judge anyone on here. and them me... I dont have a problem with people having different opinions, contrary opinions...people even judging. What I am really struggling with is the hostile attacks that sometimes happen not just in here but everywhere. a lot of the hostile attacks are nothing more than bluster to self elevate, get noticed, fit into the pack, get a leg over AND HURT from previous experiences/relatrionships." I have no desire to self elevate, get noticed, get my leg over, certainly don't foloow a pack and def never been cheated on to my knowledge. What I am is very protected over the vulnerable and the innocent.. Children and people who are happy living in a world of deciet and who will end up very hurt. So yh I have a strong opinion on this as I hate to see people become victims. | |||
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"each to their own, but I reserve the right to judge anyone on here. and them me... I dont have a problem with people having different opinions, contrary opinions...people even judging. What I am really struggling with is the hostile attacks that sometimes happen not just in here but everywhere. a lot of the hostile attacks are nothing more than bluster to self elevate, get noticed, fit into the pack, get a leg over AND HURT from previous experiences/relatrionships. I have no desire to self elevate, get noticed, get my leg over, certainly don't foloow a pack and def never been cheated on to my knowledge. What I am is very protected over the vulnerable and the innocent.. Children and people who are happy living in a world of deciet and who will end up very hurt. So yh I have a strong opinion on this as I hate to see people become victims." that's why I said a lot, not all. | |||
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"If someone approached you on fabs that had a partner that didn't know they where here, would it be a problem or an extra kick?" Depends how good looking they was | |||
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