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Surge in London Tube Crime

By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

Reports of crime on the tube, which is London's underground passenger network are up 25% on last year. Not as safe as it was a year ago and is yet again Sadiq Khan fiddling while London burns. Knife crime reports are 40 every day and reports that ULEZ cameras are being protected by masked men who resemble Dick Turpin rather than security officers. What's going on here guys? It's all over the news

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

I'm so glad I don't live in a city. Although we had a fatal stabbing here a couple of years ago

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By *eordieJeansCouple over a year ago

Newcastle upon Tyne

It’s all over the choo choos

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Good on the ulez stoppers

Don’t see why it’s sadiq khans fault, is he committing the crimes?

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By *lowhands7Man over a year ago

South Leicestershire (willing to travel)

Being the mayor of London, it's in his job description, so I'd say it definitely does lay with him.

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied. "

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"Good on the ulez stoppers

Don’t see why it’s sadiq khans fault, is he committing the crimes?"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Being the mayor of London, it's in his job description, so I'd say it definitely does lay with him."

What’s in his job description?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Being the mayor of London, it's in his job description, so I'd say it definitely does lay with him."

Do you know who could really help Londoners? The government. Cuts and policies impacts Londoners too. I know it’s hard to comprehend because we’re all the metropolitan elite but it’s true.

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By *4bimMan over a year ago

Farnborough Hampshire

the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here"

I understand where you are coming from.

That said, I still prefer the UK way of life to the American gun-carrying culture.

There is definitely room for improvement overhere though.

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By *ou only live onceMan over a year ago

London

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here"

We have self defence laws here. But most crime on the tube is theft/robbery, so you might not even know you're a victim at the time, so really don't think this is the reason here.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here"

That’s just a really uneducated opinion to hold sadly

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By *ony 2016Man over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

"Reports of crime on the tube, which is London's underground passenger network are up 25% on last year. Not as safe as it was a year ago and is yet again Sadiq Khan fiddling while London burns. Knife crime reports are 40 every day and reports that ULEZ cameras are being protected by masked men who resemble Dick Turpin rather than security officers. What's going on here guys? It's all over the news"

Although according to the Conservative Candidate to be the next London Mayor , when you have possessions taken on The Underground you belongings are returned to you "in full"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied. "

You don’t have to live in London to care for it or for the people who live there. It’s our capital city.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Was in london last week for two days and never again . NOT safe anymore .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here"

Doesn’t work in America so why would it work here?

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By *ou only live onceMan over a year ago

London

"Was in london last week for two days and never again . NOT safe anymore . "

What happened?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied.

You don’t have to live in London to care for it or for the people who live there. It’s our capital city."

I promise, hating on sadiq Khan won’t fix the issues people complain about.

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS over a year ago

Newquay

I Go to London every week with work & use the tube to move around - feel safer in London than where I live in Cornwall

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

I've lived here 20 years, mostly in brixton.

Feel safer walking round here than were I grew up in Belfast

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

The ULEZ has really helped people and their health

. Central government should have managed funding much better

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By *ik MMan over a year ago

Lancashire

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here"

A race to the bottom is fool's gold

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied.

You don’t have to live in London to care for it or for the people who live there. It’s our capital city.

I promise, hating on sadiq Khan won’t fix the issues people complain about.

And making out the mayor of London is a flawless saint definitely won’t fix anything.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied.

You don’t have to live in London to care for it or for the people who live there. It’s our capital city.

I promise, hating on sadiq Khan won’t fix the issues people complain about.

And making out the mayor of London is a flawless saint definitely won’t fix anything. "

Nobody does that. We’re just not blaming every single thing on him. Someone could be shot in Spain and people would blame Sadiq Khan.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied.

You don’t have to live in London to care for it or for the people who live there. It’s our capital city.

I promise, hating on sadiq Khan won’t fix the issues people complain about.

And making out the mayor of London is a flawless saint definitely won’t fix anything.

Nobody does that. We’re just not blaming every single thing on him. Someone could be shot in Spain and people would blame Sadiq Khan. "

The funniest thing is I don’t even like Khan like that. I didn’t even vote for him last time. But I’m also not going to blame things beyond him, on him.

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By *r_reusMan over a year ago

Coventry

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied. "

I often see that cop out from the left, yet their obsession with Israel and Palestine never comes under the same scrutiny, despite the geographical distance being considerably greater?

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By *ornucopiaMan over a year ago

Bexley

"Was in london last week for two days and never again . NOT safe anymore . "

Ghastly place. starts at the bottom of my road, which doesn't help.

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By *ornucopiaMan over a year ago

Bexley

"Was in london last week for two days and never again . NOT safe anymore . "

Ghastly place. starts at the bottom of my road, which doesn't help.

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

When he first ran for mayor he promised to freeze oyster fares and council tax for 4 years. Guess what? He kept good on that! He is from a working class family not Eton. He has been the mp for tooting for at least 25 years and has done so much for the people there. Tooting was once a deprived area but is now one of the most popular places to live.

I lived there for 2 years and loved it. The ulez scheme was put in place during Boriss term as part of the green agenda target of 2030. Obviously the daily hiel or daily excrement will rip him apart as he is labour.

So say in the next election a tory mayor gets in do you think they will reverse the ulez scheme? They'd probably increase the price.

Who does the ulez scheme affect? If you car was made on the last 15 years it will be complient.

The congestion charge went up as it was needed to fund tfl as Boris refused him a tfl bailout during covid. He in instead chose to give the Nissan power plant in Sunderland a 100 million bailout as they were going to close it and move to the EU due to increased costs after brexit.

80% of Sunderland voted leave yet the Nissan factory is one of its biggest employer's?????? Boris didn't want to lose the red wall vote.

Personally I'd have let the car factory close and told the unemployed workers "well you voted for it!"

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By *inaTitzTV/TS over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I once heard that Sadiq Khan is the baby eating bishop of Bath and Wells

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Obviously innocent people get caught in the crossfire and mugging takes place. But to make put that London is riddled with Stabbings of innocent people is as true as the tabloids reporting that brick Lane is a no go area unless you are Muslim??? Yes people believe that

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"Being the mayor of London, it's in his job description, so I'd say it definitely does lay with him.

Do you know who could really help Londoners? The government. Cuts and policies impacts Londoners too. I know it’s hard to comprehend because we’re all the metropolitan elite but it’s true. "
. I agree the government could do more to help with crime in London. I am not sure if it is you or someone else who said this but if the Conservatives really cared about London they would put up a stronger candidate than Susan Hall.

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

The daily hiel are already having a go at Khan for the poor fireworks display last night.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours?

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"The daily hiel are already having a go at Khan for the poor fireworks display last night. "

They are having a go about the commentary ...

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

Possession of a weapons was the least prevalent of reported crimes last year, at 0.57% of the total.

Anti social behaviour at 28.55% was most reported crime.

Violent crime and sexual offences were close behind.

You have to remember that each offence has different severities.

A knife crime can be someone waving a butter knife in your face because you knocked to moan about their cat shitting in your garden.

A comb can be considered an offensive weapon.

Not all crimes are at the top end of severity, and more people might feel empowered to report something now.

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours? "

Actually most people join gangs because they don't have a father figure and come from a broken home. Everybody needs somebody that cares about them in there life and want to fit in. If they don't get that at home they will turn to gangs. So yes my comments may have been a bit hastey, it's the result of many social and poverty issues.

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

It's not as black and white as joining a gang.

Their way of recruiting is coercion and then threats.

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

"The daily hiel are already having a go at Khan for the poor fireworks display last night.

They are having a go about the commentary ..."

Yeah, woke, lefty, taking away our British culture etc. I don't need to read the article or comments to work that out

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

It's not as black and white as joining a gang.

Their way of recruiting is coercion and then threats."

Well there are many factors nothing is ever black and white

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By *ik MMan over a year ago

Lancashire

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

I got stabbed and mugged in Brixton - apparently it was my own fault for being in an area I had no right to be (according to the police)

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

I got stabbed and mugged in Brixton - apparently it was my own fault for being in an area I had no right to be (according to the police) "

When was this?

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By *ik MMan over a year ago

Lancashire

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

I got stabbed and mugged in Brixton - apparently it was my own fault for being in an area I had no right to be (according to the police)

When was this?"

When I lived there. The day after I handed my notice in and moved back north

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

It's not as black and white as joining a gang.

Their way of recruiting is coercion and then threats."

Gangs essentially [redacted] kids is easy when they’re poor and vulnerable.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours?

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning.

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By *ealMissShadyWoman over a year ago

St Albans/ North Welsh Borders

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

It's not as black and white as joining a gang.

Their way of recruiting is coercion and then threats."

They are clever, grooming by offering gifts and rewards making them feel part of their 'family' very often they will either alienate them against their own family or infiltrate the homes by befriending (cuckooing)

Despite living in a predominantly rural area my area is rife in drug and weapons dealing as gangs from the city recruit runners from the outer towns.

I live an hour south of Liverpool and live directly on the Boris county line...It's scary how gang culture works and it's hard to crack because of the net being spread out wider, they're clever

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

I got stabbed and mugged in Brixton - apparently it was my own fault for being in an area I had no right to be (according to the police)

When was this?

When I lived there. The day after I handed my notice in and moved back north "

I meant when as in what year?

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By *TG3Man over a year ago

Dorchester

Well its the under ground

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

When people are poor, crime increases. This is not rocket science. If you seek someone to blame then look at the people who have spent the last 13 years making the rich richer and the poor poorer, not the bloke who has to then try and deal with the results.

Also, ULEZ was forced on London by the government, not the mayor.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied. "

I can’t think what it is about Sadiq Khan that inspires such intensely negative feelings in people who don’t live in London.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied.

I can’t think what it is about Sadiq Khan that inspires such intensely negative feelings in people who don’t live in London."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours?

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning. "

Probably not directly but I bet not having a father figure in a lads life increases the chances of all the things that also leads to joining a gang

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

"When people are poor, crime increases. This is not rocket science. If you seek someone to blame then look at the people who have spent the last 13 years making the rich richer and the poor poorer, not the bloke who has to then try and deal with the results.

Also, ULEZ was forced on London by the government, not the mayor."

Exactly! It's been well proven that if somebody has a job and money in their pocket to spend they are a lot less likely to commit crime

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Also, ULEZ was forced on London by the government, not the mayor.

Exactly! It's been well proven that if somebody has a job and money in their pocket to spend they are a lot less likely to commit crime"

It’s also proven that if you can make money from crime, you’re less likely to get a job.

What’s your point?

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS over a year ago

Newquay

"I've lived here 20 years, mostly in brixton.

Feel safer walking round here than were I grew up in Belfast

It's Brixton I stay in when I'm in London - feel as safe there as I do back home in Cornwall - in fact when I go out "dressed" I feel safer in Brixton than Cornwall

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

Also, ULEZ was forced on London by the government, not the mayor.

Exactly! It's been well proven that if somebody has a job and money in their pocket to spend they are a lot less likely to commit crime

It’s also proven that if you can make money from crime, you’re less likely to get a job.

What’s your point?"

Well if you come from a broken home, don't attend school, fall in with the wrong crowd you end up dealing drugs. Yeah you may make more money buy sooner or later you'll get caught.

My point is nothing is black and white. I'm not getting dragged in any further. I'm bowing out

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By *ealMissShadyWoman over a year ago

St Albans/ North Welsh Borders

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours?

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning.

Probably not directly but I bet not having a father figure in a lads life increases the chances of all the things that also leads to joining a gang "

Yep, it's a socio economic factor that renders children more vulnerable which means they are predisposed to the risks of being initiated into gangs because gangs offer a sense of belonging and security, something that could be lacking at home....along with poverty, peer pressure.

I work for a local College and the majority of the Children we see involved in gangs have some kind of vulnerability.

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

"I've lived here 20 years, mostly in brixton.

Feel safer walking round here than were I grew up in Belfast

It's Brixton I stay in when I'm in London - feel as safe there as I do back home in Cornwall - in fact when I go out "dressed" I feel safer in Brixton than Cornwall

Which part?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've lived here 20 years, mostly in brixton.

Feel safer walking round here than were I grew up in Belfast

It's Brixton I stay in when I'm in London - feel as safe there as I do back home in Cornwall - in fact when I go out "dressed" I feel safer in Brixton than Cornwall

Do your feelings align with reality though?

Brixton has a crime rate of “231.7 per thousand population”

Cornwall has “ 49.2 crimes per. 1000 ”

I dunno if I’d prefer to feel safer over actually being safer

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

Also, ULEZ was forced on London by the government, not the mayor.

Exactly! It's been well proven that if somebody has a job and money in their pocket to spend they are a lot less likely to commit crime

It’s also proven that if you can make money from crime, you’re less likely to get a job.

What’s your point?"

It is? I haven’t read that study, do you have a link?

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By *r_reusMan over a year ago

Coventry

"When people are poor, crime increases. This is not rocket science."

As someone who sadly lives in the inner city I can tell you first hand that this is bullshit. I see the kind of people I live around, are there decent people here? Sure, but there's no shortage of scum either, it's not lack of wealth that turns neighbourhoods into shit, it's the people who live there.

Case in point, my grandparent's generation had to struggle for every penny, yet they were a better class of people.

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By *itonthesideWoman over a year ago

Glasgow

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here"

That doesnt sound like fear of punishment, it sounds like fear of retaliation. Surely if lack of punishment is the issue it is tougher policing that is needed, not some new law to stand your ground or whatever (which by your logic we could do now because we are not scared of being punished for crime anyway)

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours?

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning.

Probably not directly but I bet not having a father figure in a lads life increases the chances of all the things that also leads to joining a gang

I work for a local College and the majority of the Children we see involved in gangs have some kind of vulnerability. "

Boom! Somebody else with experience and FACTS ??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When people are poor, crime increases. This is not rocket science.

Case in point, my grandparent's generation had to struggle for every penny, yet they were a better class of people."

Poverty effects people though

To say poverty isn’t a leading factor in crime is to just pretend decades of research and statistics on the matter don’t exist

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Also, ULEZ was forced on London by the government, not the mayor.

Exactly! It's been well proven that if somebody has a job and money in their pocket to spend they are a lot less likely to commit crime

It’s also proven that if you can make money from crime, you’re less likely to get a job.

What’s your point?"

That sounds like you’ve made it up

Purely because there’s no interview process for crime. It’s available to anyone, at any time.

What do you mean by proven?

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

Also, ULEZ was forced on London by the government, not the mayor.

Exactly! It's been well proven that if somebody has a job and money in their pocket to spend they are a lot less likely to commit crime

It’s also proven that if you can make money from crime, you’re less likely to get a job.

What’s your point?

It is? I haven’t read that study, do you have a link?"

Yeah Google and patience

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When people are poor, crime increases. This is not rocket science.

Case in point, my grandparent's generation had to struggle for every penny, yet they were a better class of people."

No the gangsters back then were c*nts too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours?

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning.

Probably not directly but I bet not having a father figure in a lads life increases the chances of all the things that also leads to joining a gang

I work for a local College and the majority of the Children we see involved in gangs have some kind of vulnerability. "

That’s not the same as kids joining gangs because they don’t have dads as was suggested above.

Of course, being in single parent families makes you more likely to suffer poverty for example which makes you more vulnerable. But literally A Level sociology students I’ve worked with could see that the claim above is false. It’s a lazy unproven claim that is predominantly used to suggest particular groups of people are more likely to be criminals because of their own doing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning.

Probably not directly but I bet not having a father figure in a lads life increases the chances of all the things that also leads to joining a gang

I work for a local College and the majority of the Children we see involved in gangs have some kind of vulnerability.

That’s not the same as kids joining gangs because they don’t have dads as was suggested above.

It’s also used to reaffirm racist stereotypes.

My experience? Also working with vulnerable young people and of course studying.

(Not aimed at you shady)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours?

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning.

Probably not directly but I bet not having a father figure in a lads life increases the chances of all the things that also leads to joining a gang

I work for a local College and the majority of the Children we see involved in gangs have some kind of vulnerability.

That’s not the same as kids joining gangs because they don’t have dads as was suggested above.

I think more likely it wad just a very lazy way of saying what we already know

Fatherlessness can lead to a bunch of negatives, and those negatives can increase the chances of being in a gang

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity (Or laziness in this context)

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By *r_reusMan over a year ago

Coventry

"When people are poor, crime increases. This is not rocket science.

Case in point, my grandparent's generation had to struggle for every penny, yet they were a better class of people.

Poverty effects people though

To say poverty isn’t a leading factor in crime is to just pretend decades of research and statistics on the matter don’t exist "

Depends on where that research and those statistics come from doesn't it, have you ever actually studied them and understood them for yourself, or just swept over article and believed what was in it without ever thinking if the person presenting had a motive?

It's poverty of character which causes crime, not money, and I base this on what I've seen and experienced first hand, not on a spreadsheet.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Also, ULEZ was forced on London by the government, not the mayor."

This. Poverty is up, petty crimes are up. Poverty is increasing because 13 years of Tory austerity and fraudulent siphoning of taxes to their Eton buddies.

The tube is an easy place to lift phones and wallets out of people's pockets. It's crowded and people knock in to each other all the time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When people are poor, crime increases. This is not rocket science.

Case in point, my grandparent's generation had to struggle for every penny, yet they were a better class of people.

Poverty effects people though

To say poverty isn’t a leading factor in crime is to just pretend decades of research and statistics on the matter don’t exist

It's poverty of character which causes crime, not money, and I base this on what I've seen and experienced first hand, not on a spreadsheet."

Feels pointless you asking me if I’ve read the studies

Only for you to say you haven’t, your just going off your personal N=1 experiences

But yes, the studies and statistics are decades in volume and well understood. Poverty breeds conditions that cause crime

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours?

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning.

Probably not directly but I bet not having a father figure in a lads life increases the chances of all the things that also leads to joining a gang

I work for a local College and the majority of the Children we see involved in gangs have some kind of vulnerability.

That’s not the same as kids joining gangs because they don’t have dads as was suggested above.

I think more likely it wad just a very lazy way of saying what we already know

Fatherlessness can lead to a bunch of negatives, and those negatives can increase the chances of being in a gang

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity (Or laziness in this context)"

But also it’s suggested that it is the lack of specifically a male role model that leads to these things. MPs and other academics have suggested it before. I don’t know what the poster meant but I know what they said, if that makes sense?

Fatherlessness is no more a cause in these instances than motherlessness. The factors are actually not to much to due with absent parents and I’d anis mentioning it because factors like poverty transcends that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours?

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning.

Probably not directly but I bet not having a father figure in a lads life increases the chances of all the things that also leads to joining a gang

I work for a local College and the majority of the Children we see involved in gangs have some kind of vulnerability.

That’s not the same as kids joining gangs because they don’t have dads as was suggested above.

I think more likely it wad just a very lazy way of saying what we already know

Fatherlessness can lead to a bunch of negatives, and those negatives can increase the chances of being in a gang

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity (Or laziness in this context)

Can’t really comment on that because our info on motherlessness is a fraction of what we have on fatherlessness, purely because in most cases the father is missing, not the mother

But I do agree, fatherlessness is probably equal to just a good male role model. We shouldn’t undermine the importing of a strong male presence in any form. Whether that be brothers or others in your close community

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By *ealMissShadyWoman over a year ago

St Albans/ North Welsh Borders

"On the subject of knife crime, most of it is all gang related. One gang steps on the other gangs turf etc etc.

Stabbings are frequent in Brixton but its gang related. Ok its not nice to have it on your doorstep but hey you join a gang accept the consequences

Knife Crime may often be gang related but every victim has a mother, a father, possibly siblings. Is it callous to describe it in that way?

Is there life lesser than yours?

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning.

Probably not directly but I bet not having a father figure in a lads life increases the chances of all the things that also leads to joining a gang

I work for a local College and the majority of the Children we see involved in gangs have some kind of vulnerability.

Boom! Somebody else with experience and FACTS ??"

And it's not just Children who are at risk

I work in early years and one of my Parents was jailed earlier this year because she was caught running drugs across the Boris line

She wasn't even recruited, she started 'dating' a gang member...it started with her dropping off and collecting parcels, she trusted him so didn't ask questions, she got used to having access to drugs and money for herself it was too late.

She used drop the kid off and she'd be wasted, messy, dirty. We started seeing behaviour changes in her and the little boy, I called it, had a support meeting with her and monitoring in place. Other stuff happened but it ended in a section 42 and her being stopped as she was driving through the Mersey Tunnel with her latest delivery.

7 years and the little lad lives with his Dad now, he'll be 10 when she is released.

So it's not always noticeable at first, it's a gradual process. These people are clever.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

...

To say poverty isn’t a leading factor in crime is to just pretend decades of research and statistics on the matter don’t exist

It's poverty of character which causes crime, not money, and I base this on what I've seen and experienced first hand, not on a spreadsheet."

The OP is about petty crime on the tube - pick pockets and opportunists. Those types of crimes are absolutely related to poverty.

The biggest criminals in the world are also some of the richest folk. Hell, some of them run our country and break our own laws openly.

Both things can be true at the same time.

Poverty is absolutely a factor in crime rates, but it's not the only one.

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

"When people are poor, crime increases. This is not rocket science.

Case in point, my grandparent's generation had to struggle for every penny, yet they were a better class of people."

Yes but that generation was a lot less materialistic. So why burgle a house when they have nothing to steal.

Today's kids want iPhone, paystations and the latest cool trainers. Don't have a job or money then steal

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

...

To say poverty isn’t a leading factor in crime is to just pretend decades of research and statistics on the matter don’t exist

It's poverty of character which causes crime, not money, and I base this on what I've seen and experienced first hand, not on a spreadsheet.

The OP is about petty crime on the tube - pick pockets and opportunists. Those types of crimes are absolutely related to poverty.

The biggest criminals in the world are also some of the richest folk. Hell, some of them run our country and break our own laws openly.

Both things can be true at the same time.

Poverty is absolutely a factor in crime rates, but it's not the only one."

Yeah this has gone waaaaay off topic. I'm out and I mean it this time. One of my new years resolutions was to not get involved in political arguments online as it winds me up. That lasted long!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

...

To say poverty isn’t a leading factor in crime is to just pretend decades of research and statistics on the matter don’t exist

It's poverty of character which causes crime, not money, and I base this on what I've seen and experienced first hand, not on a spreadsheet.

The OP is about petty crime on the tube - pick pockets and opportunists. Those types of crimes are absolutely related to poverty.

The biggest criminals in the world are also some of the richest folk. Hell, some of them run our country and break our own laws openly.

Both things can be true at the same time.

Poverty is absolutely a factor in crime rates, but it's not the only one.

Yeah this has gone waaaaay off topic. I'm out and I mean it this time. One of my new years resolutions was to not get involved in political arguments online as it winds me up. That lasted long! "

The trick is to stop looking at it as an argument and start looking at it as a discussion with an open mind, ready to learn something new

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS over a year ago

Newquay

"I've lived here 20 years, mostly in brixton.

Feel safer walking round here than were I grew up in Belfast

It's Brixton I stay in when I'm in London - feel as safe there as I do back home in Cornwall - in fact when I go out "dressed" I feel safer in Brixton than Cornwall

Which part?"

Stay in The premier inn - cold harbour lane, eat out in many of the pubs / restaurants while there

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS over a year ago

Newquay

"I've lived here 20 years, mostly in brixton.

Feel safer walking round here than were I grew up in Belfast

It's Brixton I stay in when I'm in London - feel as safe there as I do back home in Cornwall - in fact when I go out "dressed" I feel safer in Brixton than Cornwall

Do your feelings align with reality though?

Brixton has a crime rate of “231.7 per thousand population”

Cornwall has “ 49.2 crimes per. 1000 ”

I dunno if I’d prefer to feel safer over actually being safer

The feeling safer comment is relating to when out dressed - in Cornish towns I often get abuse / rude comments etc when I'm out - in Brixton (or London in general) you don't a second look - & certainly no nasty comments

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied. "

London belongs to the nation, not to Londoners. Sadiq Khan is simply the unfortunate incumbent. It could have happened under any Mayor as society spirals down the drain.

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By *hawn ScottMan over a year ago

london Brixton

"I've lived here 20 years, mostly in brixton.

Feel safer walking round here than were I grew up in Belfast

It's Brixton I stay in when I'm in London - feel as safe there as I do back home in Cornwall - in fact when I go out "dressed" I feel safer in Brixton than Cornwall

Do your feelings align with reality though?

Brixton has a crime rate of “231.7 per thousand population”

Cornwall has “ 49.2 crimes per. 1000 ”

I dunno if I’d prefer to feel safer over actually being safer

Yeah being TV you're more likely to get abuse in small backwards towns. It London nobody cares and wouldn't bat an eyelid. Yeah I know the hotel. Some great restaurants, I love turtle Bay

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But yet Sadiq Khan wants more people to use the unsafe, expensive and in certain scenarios dirty public transport by pricing people out their cars. This guy cannot be Mayor come May 2024

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By *TG3Man over a year ago

Dorchester

"I've lived here 20 years, mostly in brixton.

Feel safer walking round here than were I grew up in Belfast

It's Brixton I stay in when I'm in London - feel as safe there as I do back home in Cornwall - in fact when I go out "dressed" I feel safer in Brixton than Cornwall

Do your feelings align with reality though?

Brixton has a crime rate of “231.7 per thousand population”

Cornwall has “ 49.2 crimes per. 1000 ”

I dunno if I’d prefer to feel safer over actually being safer

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yes but population of Cornwall much smaller and london a much bigger space

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"When people are poor, crime increases. This is not rocket science.

Case in point, my grandparent's generation had to struggle for every penny, yet they were a better class of people.

No the gangsters back then were c*nts too. "

Yes your right people like the Krays, Mad Frankie Fraser - this guys nickname was The axeman, wonder why?

The Chelsea Smile was started in The 60's where you cut some one from mouth to ear.

Anyone seen Peaky Blinders?

Well that's based on true events in the early 1900's in Birmingham.

Then the football hooligans in the 80's. That was so bad English clubs were banned from playing in Europe for years.

There's always been crime in city's.

I've lived in West London all my life. I think it's a lot safer now.

That's not to say there isn't crime now, but it's magnified more.

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By *ndycoinsMan over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here

Doesn’t work in America so why would it work here?"

Stand your ground laws do work in the states

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've lived here 20 years, mostly in brixton.

Feel safer walking round here than were I grew up in Belfast

It's Brixton I stay in when I'm in London - feel as safe there as I do back home in Cornwall - in fact when I go out "dressed" I feel safer in Brixton than Cornwall

Do your feelings align with reality though?

Brixton has a crime rate of “231.7 per thousand population”

Cornwall has “ 49.2 crimes per. 1000 ”

I dunno if I’d prefer to feel safer over actually being safer

yes but population of Cornwall much smaller and london a much bigger space

It’s per 1000 people. That’s how you standardise statistics with big population differences

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here

Doesn’t work in America so why would it work here?

Stand your ground laws do work in the states"

They work in what sense?

In the sense that much more people carry weapons so they can stand their ground, which means up massive increase in violent crime with weapons?

If you introduce stand your ground here, you also have to make it legal to carry the weapon you want to stand your ground with

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here

Doesn’t work in America so why would it work here?

Stand your ground laws do work in the states"

For George Zimmerman

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

Also, ULEZ was forced on London by the government, not the mayor.

Exactly! It's been well proven that if somebody has a job and money in their pocket to spend they are a lot less likely to commit crime

It’s also proven that if you can make money from crime, you’re less likely to get a job.

What’s your point?

Well if you come from a broken home, don't attend school, fall in with the wrong crowd you end up dealing drugs. Yeah you may make more money buy sooner or later you'll get caught.

My point is nothing is black and white. I'm not getting dragged in any further. I'm bowing out "

With his tail between his legs..

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

They don’t join gangs because they don’t have a father figure that’s seriously lazy reasoning.

Probably not directly but I bet not having a father figure in a lads life increases the chances of all the things that also leads to joining a gang

I work for a local College and the majority of the Children we see involved in gangs have some kind of vulnerability.

That’s not the same as kids joining gangs because they don’t have dads as was suggested above.

It’s also used to reaffirm racist stereotypes.

My experience? Also working with vulnerable young people and of course studying.

(Not aimed at you shady)"

Studying what ? The Beano ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Studying what ? The Beano ?"

Don’t be silly. YouTube videos that only confirm your own biases is a great form of study

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By *heGateKeeperMan over a year ago

Stratford

I have an interesting perspective on Mayor Khan because he came to my old work when we hosted a meeting where he, Minister Zahawi and a number of other leading political figures at the time.

I spent a fair bit of time with his head of security and to receive death threats from the right and the left is some skill

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Don’t be silly. YouTube videos that only confirm your own biases is a great form of study "

Time to tear up my sociology degree

Tbh it’s only an ology. Not a real subject

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My experience? Also working with vulnerable young people and of course studying.

(Not aimed at you shady)

Studying what ? The Beano ?"

Tom, I just remembered, I did go to a Beano exhibition at Somerset house a while back. What fun! But no, I haven’t ever studied it.

Get back to me about your studies via PM. Would love to chat civilly if you can manage. X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Don’t be silly. YouTube videos that only confirm your own biases is a great form of study

Time to tear up my sociology degree

Tbh it’s only an ology. Not a real subject"

Ah shite. That means mine are worthless too?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Don’t be silly. YouTube videos that only confirm your own biases is a great form of study

Time to tear up my sociology degree

Tbh it’s only an ology. Not a real subject

Ah shite. That means mine are worthless too?

"
idk. Maybe they’ll reply and let us know

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Don’t be silly. YouTube videos that only confirm your own biases is a great form of study

Time to tear up my sociology degree

Tbh it’s only an ology. Not a real subject

Ah shite. That means mine are worthless too?

idk. Maybe they’ll reply and let us know

Mind you, if they’re a pile of crusty wank we might get away with not paying back our student loans!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Don’t be silly. YouTube videos that only confirm your own biases is a great form of study

Time to tear up my sociology degree

Tbh it’s only an ology. Not a real subject

Ah shite. That means mine are worthless too?

idk. Maybe they’ll reply and let us know

Mind you, if they’re a pile of crusty wank we might get away with not paying back our student loans!"

Makes you wonder, if we don’t pay them back, would that be Khan’s fault?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Don’t be silly. YouTube videos that only confirm your own biases is a great form of study

Time to tear up my sociology degree

Tbh it’s only an ology. Not a real subject

Ah shite. That means mine are worthless too?

idk. Maybe they’ll reply and let us know

Mind you, if they’re a pile of crusty wank we might get away with not paying back our student loans!

Makes you wonder, if we don’t pay them back, would that be Khan’s fault?

Of course. He’s responsible for all our personal decisions, especially which crimes we commit

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here

We have self defence laws here. But most crime on the tube is theft/robbery, so you might not even know you're a victim at the time, so really don't think this is the reason here. "

Thankfully all tubes and tube stations have cctv so that's OK. It's serving its purpose.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied.

You don’t have to live in London to care for it or for the people who live there. It’s our capital city.

I promise, hating on sadiq Khan won’t fix the issues people complain about.

Interested to understand what the mayor of London is responsible for

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"Being the mayor of London, it's in his job description, so I'd say it definitely does lay with him."

Presumably, he gets credit for the previous year then? When knife crime was 25% less?

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"I've lived here 20 years, mostly in brixton.

Feel safer walking round here than were I grew up in Belfast

It's interesting I was having just this conversation with someone today... About the 16 year old kid who was stabbed to death at the NYE party.

It's hard to judge unless your personal experiences include London life. Perception and the role of the media is so important in this... Pretty much everyday someone is reported to be stabbed in London. But does that make it more or less safe than other places? And the inaccurate and agenda led reporting of crimes lead to innacurate perceptions. Then you have the lack of accurate verified and truthful crime stats, so it's hard to tell... Certainly the bbc likes a good... "be afraid" story.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied.

You don’t have to live in London to care for it or for the people who live there. It’s our capital city.

I promise, hating on sadiq Khan won’t fix the issues people complain about.

Interested to understand what the mayor of London is responsible for "

Well that woke firework display for starters...

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By *penbicoupleCouple over a year ago

Northampton

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied.

You don’t have to live in London to care for it or for the people who live there. It’s our capital city.

I promise, hating on sadiq Khan won’t fix the issues people complain about.

Interested to understand what the mayor of London is responsible for

Well that woke firework display for starters..."

You used the word 'woke!

. Gawd bless ya!

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

My experience? Also working with vulnerable young people and of course studying.

(Not aimed at you shady)

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Tom, I just remembered, I did go to a Beano exhibition at Somerset house a while back. What fun! But no, I haven’t ever studied it.

Get back to me about your studies via PM. Would love to chat civilly if you can manage. X"

The School of Hard Knocks and the University of Life are the premier educational establishments of the fab forums.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My experience? Also working with vulnerable young people and of course studying.

(Not aimed at you shady)

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Tom, I just remembered, I did go to a Beano exhibition at Somerset house a while back. What fun! But no, I haven’t ever studied it.

Get back to me about your studies via PM. Would love to chat civilly if you can manage. X

The School of Hard Knocks and the University of Life are the premier educational establishments of the fab forums."

I would say Jay Z would love it here but the forum only rates his wife a 6

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By *ad NannaWoman over a year ago

East London

My experience? Also working with vulnerable young people and of course studying.

(Not aimed at you shady)

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Tom, I just remembered, I did go to a Beano exhibition at Somerset house a while back. What fun! But no, I haven’t ever studied it.

Get back to me about your studies via PM. Would love to chat civilly if you can manage. X

The School of Hard Knocks and the University of Life are the premier educational establishments of the fab forums.

I would say Jay Z would love it here but the forum only rates his wife a 6"

Bee is a 6??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

"I may not be Sadiq Khan biggest fan either but I dont want him assassinated. Just don't want him to be Mayor any longer but I hold whoever voted for him last time to take some accountability as they they're just as complicit"

Should we bring back Boris as Mayor of London. ?

Surely we been leadership

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

may not be Sadiq Khan biggest fan either but I dont want him assassinated. I just don't want him to be Mayor any longer but I hold whoever voted for him the last time to take some accountability as they're just as complicit

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Should we bring back Boris as Mayor of London. ?

Surely we been leadership "
I actually didnt have a problem of Boris being Mayor of London. Just didnt feel he was suited to be Prime Minister but I would welcome him back if he decided to run as Mayor again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My experience? Also working with vulnerable young people and of course studying.

(Not aimed at you shady)

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Tom, I just remembered, I did go to a Beano exhibition at Somerset house a while back. What fun! But no, I haven’t ever studied it.

Get back to me about your studies via PM. Would love to chat civilly if you can manage. X

The School of Hard Knocks and the University of Life are the premier educational establishments of the fab forums.

I would say Jay Z would love it here but the forum only rates his wife a 6

Bee is a 6??

that was a very funny thread! During your sabbatical

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My experience? Also working with vulnerable young people and of course studying.

(Not aimed at you shady)

Studying what ? The Beano ?

Tom, I just remembered, I did go to a Beano exhibition at Somerset house a while back. What fun! But no, I haven’t ever studied it.

Get back to me about your studies via PM. Would love to chat civilly if you can manage. X

The School of Hard Knocks and the University of Life are the premier educational establishments of the fab forums.

I would say Jay Z would love it here but the forum only rates his wife a 6

Bee is a 6??

that was a very funny thread! During your sabbatical

I had her at a 9

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By *ichaelsmyMan over a year ago

douglas

ulez, smells of a money grab for the coffers of the mayor.

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By *ou only live onceMan over a year ago

London

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"ulez, smells of a money grab for the coffers of the mayor."

Was it his idea then? Someone above said it wasn’t

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

Boris did the bikes which was a Triumph

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By *ndycoinsMan over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"ulez, smells of a money grab for the coffers of the mayor."

If it was genuinely about pollution,all polluting vehicles would be stopped,not a "pay to pollute" scheme also known as a cash grab.If Khan stopped interfering with Policing knife crime would fall.The mayor of Manchester lets the experts (the Police) do something called "Policing",end result = knife crime down 16%,Midlands mayor the same,knife crime down 5%.Khan = 40% increase.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

No Khan Do..

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By *ndycoinsMan over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"No Khan Do..

A legend in his own mind

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Boris did the bikes which was a Triumph "
Man like Bor.. bojo Johns.. what’s his name? Not really sure what they’re doing. Fair enough they got the bikes and that. But…. I got bikes. I give youngers bikes.

https://youtu.be/165R9OWugAk?si=fb1YeGHlcDJfCL9I

Go to 2:33

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By *ndycoinsMan over a year ago

Whaley Bridge,Nr Buxton,

"Have you paid the ULEZ charge"? asked Big Ears

"Khan can fuck off" replied Noddy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not just ULEZ but because of Khan his made most roads 20mph even on quiet evenings, restricted right and left turns on side roads and bought in the LTN scheme which seems to do more harm then good for the sake of "pollution"

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"ulez, smells of a money grab for the coffers of the mayor.

But it's not the responsibility of the mayor... Give him a free ride... Its all someone else's fault

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"Unfortunately sadique kahn is just doing what the Tory's do , lining their own pockets with our hard worked money , sooner he's assassinated the better , same with that Michelle mone ,scumbags "

That's an embarrassing shameful thing to write. Grow up

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sadiq Khan is not the main reason why we have crime, specifically knife crime in London. However since his being Mayor it has gone worse. Cares more about green schemes then actually using measures to stop kids from carrying weapons in the first place

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By *un Rugby playerMan over a year ago

village near hatfield

“ Khant “

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well I hope some of you will find the common sense NOT to vote for Sadiq Khan at this year London Mayoral Election

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

"Boris did the bikes which was a Triumph "

And the garden bridge, and the estuary airport.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

Sadiq blaming knife crime on mobile phones now ...

Clueless Khan

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

https://www-express-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1850667/sadiq-khan-knife-crime-london/amp?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"https://www-express-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1850667/sadiq-khan-knife-crime-london/amp?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D"

Nice. The express.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I never feel safe on the tube. I absolutely detest it. Luckily I only end up in London once every 10 years or so.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I never feel safe on the tube. I absolutely detest it. Luckily I only end up in London once every 10 years or so."
lucky for you. Unlucky for us

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So who are you guys looking to vote for to replace Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral Election?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who are you guys looking to vote for to replace Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral Election?"
most of the people on this thread don’t even live in London so they won’t be voting

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

If you talking about transport for Londons issues remember that their revenue has plummeted since the pandemic…

Also with more people working from home, they haven’t got back to where they were….to the point that they needed to be bailed out by the government, and the government have put in stringent restrictions on what can be spent

This is one of the things you can’t really blame Sadiq Khan for…

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By *restonCouple555Couple over a year ago

preston

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice."

Literally 100% of the data says the opposite.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"I never feel safe on the tube. I absolutely detest it. Luckily I only end up in London once every 10 years or so."

Why? What's going on that makes you detest it?

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

"If you talking about transport for Londons issues remember that their revenue has plummeted since the pandemic…

This is one of the things you can’t really blame Sadiq Khan for…

ULEZ, for instance, was a Boris Johnson idea that was imposed by the government as a condition for bailing out TfL.

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By *oinerbillMan over a year ago

warrington

"the reason crime is up is because there is no fear of punishment.

you dont have stand your ground laws here where if someone even threatens you , you then have the right to defend yourself.

soon as people are allowed to legally protect themselves and use deadly force against criminals then the fear will make them think twice.

but this is britain, you have no rights here"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is Sadiq Khan looking to charge people who drive to use the Blackwall Tunnel? If so get him out ASAP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I never feel safe on the tube. I absolutely detest it. Luckily I only end up in London once every 10 years or so.

Why? What's going on that makes you detest it? "

Too many people, too much traffic, too much noise, too many buildings, too many people living in one area, no green fields, no fresh country air. Yeah I'm a proper country girl

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"So who are you guys looking to vote for to replace Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral Election? most of the people on this thread don’t even live in London so they won’t be voting

"
. I live in London I will be voting for Sadiq Khan as I believe it is a better / stronger candidate than the Conservative candidate Susan Hall.

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By *phroditeWoman over a year ago

(She/ her) in Sensualityland

"So who are you guys looking to vote for to replace Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral Election? most of the people on this thread don’t even live in London so they won’t be voting

. I live in London I will be voting for Sadiq Khan as I believe it is a better / stronger candidate than the Conservative candidate Susan Hall."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who are you guys looking to vote for to replace Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral Election? most of the people on this thread don’t even live in London so they won’t be voting

. I live in London I will be voting for Sadiq Khan as I believe it is a better / stronger candidate than the Conservative candidate Susan Hall."
Oh so your happy with that crimes been going up in London since his been Mayor, that most roads are now 20mph, happy with LTNs causing more traffic on roads, ULEZ being expanded when the least well off can afford to change their car to be compliant to avoid the charge, looking to charge people to use the Blackwall Tunnel, hasnt met house building targets, council tax going up every year since his been Mayor. I mean if you're happy with that record then I will respect your decision to vote for him

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So who are you guys looking to vote for to replace Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral Election? most of the people on this thread don’t even live in London so they won’t be voting

. I live in London I will be voting for Sadiq Khan as I believe it is a better / stronger candidate than the Conservative candidate Susan Hall."
ah banaiamou re

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By *os19Man over a year ago

Edmonton

"So who are you guys looking to vote for to replace Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral Election? most of the people on this thread don’t even live in London so they won’t be voting

. I live in London I will be voting for Sadiq Khan as I believe it is a better / stronger candidate than the Conservative candidate Susan Hall. Oh so your happy with that crimes been going up in London since his been Mayor, that most roads are now 20mph, happy with LTNs causing more traffic on roads, ULEZ being expanded when the least well off can afford to change their car to be compliant to avoid the charge, looking to charge people to use the Blackwall Tunnel, hasnt met house building targets, council tax going up every year since his been Mayor. I mean if you're happy with that record then I will respect your decision to vote for him "
. No I am not happy with all you have said. However I am less convinced that Susan Hall is the answer.So for me it’s a case of better the devil you know.Maybe in the lead up to the elections depending on what she has to say there is a possibility I may change my mind.Thanks for respecting my decision to vote for him as I respect your decision not to vote for him.

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By *ovelifelovefuntimesMan over a year ago

Where ever I lay my hat

London has changed and will continue to change. Felt like a city full of optimism when we got the Olympics but the legacy has been a lack of central funding leading to most local authorities on the verge or bankruptcy with cuts to many services and Met police force that felt the brunt of the huge reduction on officers. Needs a Mayor who can be honest about the issues the city faces, get the central funding which is desperately needed and provide inclusive leadership to turn around what has been a pretty disastrous decline

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"London has changed and will continue to change. Felt like a city full of optimism when we got the Olympics but the legacy has been a lack of central funding leading to most local authorities on the verge or bankruptcy with cuts to many services and Met police force that felt the brunt of the huge reduction on officers. Needs a Mayor who can be honest about the issues the city faces, get the central funding which is desperately needed and provide inclusive leadership to turn around what has been a pretty disastrous decline"

But none of that is khans fault. He's a good egg. It's everyone else.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"I never feel safe on the tube. I absolutely detest it. Luckily I only end up in London once every 10 years or so.

Why? What's going on that makes you detest it?

Too many people, too much traffic, too much noise, too many buildings, too many people living in one area, no green fields, no fresh country air. Yeah I'm a proper country girl

I can understand that. But is your 10 yearly visit and feeling unsafe because of perception or because you have seen stuff or experienced stuff to be fearful of.? My point many people say stuff like you've said but have no evidence or substance to support it other than scare stories the media pedal

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man over a year ago

BRIDPORT

I went on the tube once, 1983, I didn’t like it.

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

"I went on the tube once, 1983, I didn’t like it. "

Ah 1983 was a good year...

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By *crumdiddlyumptiousMan over a year ago

"The obsession with Sadiq Khan from people that don’t live in London needs to be studied.

I can’t think what it is about Sadiq Khan that inspires such intensely negative feelings in people who don’t live in London."

Maybe because its the Capital ? or because every time something happens in London its headline news

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By *a LunaWoman over a year ago

South Wales

"I went on the tube once, 1983, I didn’t like it. "

Were you interviewed by Paula Yates?

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man over a year ago

BRIDPORT

"I went on the tube once, 1983, I didn’t like it.

Were you interviewed by Paula Yates?

Sadly not, it may have been a better experience if I had been.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

"So who are you guys looking to vote for to replace Sadiq Khan in the London Mayoral Election? most of the people on this thread don’t even live in London so they won’t be voting

Again… the expansion of the ULEZ was NOT a sadiq khan decision… that was for him by the DFT as part of the bail out of TfL by the then minister of state for transport Grant Shapps!

This is why I hate the (mis/dis)information put out where the Labour mayor is getting the blame for what is/was a conservative government decision …..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Right your correct, the Government did tell the Mayor to expand the ULEZ zone the first time in 2021 to inner parts of London around the South and North Circular for that bailout but Sadiq Khan said himself when he decided to expand it again last year that it was the "hardest decision he had to make" why he expanded it to all of London.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I never feel safe on the tube. I absolutely detest it. Luckily I only end up in London once every 10 years or so.

Why? What's going on that makes you detest it?

Too many people, too much traffic, too much noise, too many buildings, too many people living in one area, no green fields, no fresh country air. Yeah I'm a proper country girl

I feel very scared and vulnerable when in London and encountered trouble when using the underground. I also had my purse sto-len from my handbag whilst walking along the street. I am very justified in my reasons for detesting London.

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By *ssex_tom OP Man over a year ago

Colchester

Tom is no fan of London..

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

Public spending per person on London is already 15% higher than the national average.

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By *restonCouple555Couple over a year ago

preston

Public spending per person on London is already 15% higher than the national average."

Yeah, but there's per capita a lot more stuff in London that the government spend money on. It's not like London residents individually are getting looked after 15% better.

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By *ebauchedDeviantsPt2Couple over a year ago

Cumbria

Public spending per person on London is already 15% higher than the national average.

Yeah, but there's per capita a lot more stuff in London that the government spend money on. It's not like London residents individually are getting looked after 15% better."

No, but there’s a lot more stuff because there has been massive public investment in London. Infrastructure in the north has been left to rot, while London sucks in all the cash. £18.9 billion on the Elizabeth line alone!

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By *ackformore100Man over a year ago

Tin town

Public spending per person on London is already 15% higher than the national average.

Yeah, but there's per capita a lot more stuff in London that the government spend money on. It's not like London residents individually are getting looked after 15% better.

It's OK... Its as shit when they are on strike as anywhere else in the country

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sadiq Khan must not be Mayor at the next London Election at any cost

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