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63 years old and put out to pasture
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is it just me ,just after menopause
Wife went totally off sex
Which I understand totally
But obviously I still enjoy sex
But at 63 like being put back in box .
Plenty bi guys about and I've had odd couple meets
But where are the mature ladies must be some in fab world
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By *oontzMan 51 weeks ago
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I find that women generally place a higher value on intimate relationships and need
to be emotionally supported. Whereas men place a much higher value on sexual intimacy than women and as a consequence, and in answer to your question, mature women are less likely to seek out sex with a man (stranger) just to gratify some sexual urge. I think that's why so many men in your (our) position seek sexual intimacy with other other men to satisfy some kind of primal urge that has existed since time began. We want the sex without the emotional baggage and commitment. I doubt that you'll ever find what you're looking for but good luck anyway.... |
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"I find that women generally place a higher value on intimate relationships and need
to be emotionally supported. Whereas men place a much higher value on sexual intimacy than women and as a consequence, and in answer to your question, mature women are less likely to seek out sex with a man (stranger) just to gratify some sexual urge. I think that's why so many men in your (our) position seek sexual intimacy with other other men to satisfy some kind of primal urge that has existed since time began. We want the sex without the emotional baggage and commitment. I doubt that you'll ever find what you're looking for but good luck anyway.... "
I’d be quite happy with intimacy and no sex, maybe even some hugs and cuddles. But despite us getting on better than we ever have, we do none of these, even a kiss is a rarity |
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"I find that women generally place a higher value on intimate relationships and need
to be emotionally supported. Whereas men place a much higher value on sexual intimacy than women and as a consequence, and in answer to your question, mature women are less likely to seek out sex with a man (stranger) just to gratify some sexual urge. I think that's why so many men in your (our) position seek sexual intimacy with other other men to satisfy some kind of primal urge that has existed since time began. We want the sex without the emotional baggage and commitment. I doubt that you'll ever find what you're looking for but good luck anyway.... "
I was with you up until the word 'baggage' ....
What most seem to need here is a pro ztitute... So pay ffs.... no one will blame you for it.
But NOOOOOOOOOOO men don't want to pay. They want the woman to 'want' them .... funny old world - a world full of rotating tables it seems....
It was the word baggage that caught my eye. It's only baggage when women want it. |
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"I find that women generally place a higher value on intimate relationships and need
to be emotionally supported. Whereas men place a much higher value on sexual intimacy than women and as a consequence, and in answer to your question, mature women are less likely to seek out sex with a man (stranger) just to gratify some sexual urge. I think that's why so many men in your (our) position seek sexual intimacy with other other men to satisfy some kind of primal urge that has existed since time began. We want the sex without the emotional baggage and commitment. I doubt that you'll ever find what you're looking for but good luck anyway.... "
My thought on this . I read profiles and not all mature females . But a very high percentage on their profile want younger than them . Even if their age range is say open to include me . Plus females which in posts by others many times in forums state. Females can choose as males outnumber females many times over. |
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By *phroditeWoman 51 weeks ago
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Struggling to see how lack of libido equals emotional baggage - it could be down to a range of things including hormonal imbalance, stress etc but also the specific man.
I am not sure it necessarily applies to mature women (whatever age that is meant to include) as women can be mature at 20 and immature at 60.
I would want a connection with a man to fully enjoy intimacy - not love, long term commitment but at the very least respect and an affinity. And.... I have always sought more than a quick shag behind the bike shed.  |
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"I find that women generally place a higher value on intimate relationships and need
to be emotionally supported. Whereas men place a much higher value on sexual intimacy than women and as a consequence, and in answer to your question, mature women are less likely to seek out sex with a man (stranger) just to gratify some sexual urge. I think that's why so many men in your (our) position seek sexual intimacy with other other men to satisfy some kind of primal urge that has existed since time began. We want the sex without the emotional baggage and commitment. I doubt that you'll ever find what you're looking for but good luck anyway.... "
Would say not all men and not all women fit that assumption..
The Op mentioned menopause which is a time of change of course but like all the things couples/partners go through in life it's about open and honest understanding what the other half is going through..
It seems to be some sort of an excuse with some men when women go through that, do wonder how much a lack of communication plays in such reasoning.. |
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"I always wonder what the spouse being spoken about would say about the situations being portrayed.
Is it an unwillingness to discuss things openly that leads people to points like this? "
Yes.
I was going to type a lot but it's not anyone's business. But yes, and if you're lucky you can start to communicate openly and honestly before you reach the point of no return.
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By (user no longer on site) 51 weeks ago
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"I always wonder what the spouse being spoken about would say about the situations being portrayed.
Is it an unwillingness to discuss things openly that leads people to points like this?
Yes.
I was going to type a lot but it's not anyone's business. But yes, and if you're lucky you can start to communicate openly and honestly before you reach the point of no return.
J
Is the point of NO return when you whinge about your wife on a swinger site whilst looking for casual sex? "
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"I always wonder what the spouse being spoken about would say about the situations being portrayed.
Is it an unwillingness to discuss things openly that leads people to points like this?
Yes.
I was going to type a lot but it's not anyone's business. But yes, and if you're lucky you can start to communicate openly and honestly before you reach the point of no return.
J
Is the point of NO return when you whinge about your wife on a swinger site whilst looking for casual sex? "
It's got to be pretty close. But it would depend on the woman and whether both parties can be honest with themselves and each other about what has brought them to that point. And whether both parties are prepared to put in the hard work to repair things.
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By (user no longer on site) 51 weeks ago
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"I always wonder what the spouse being spoken about would say about the situations being portrayed.
Is it an unwillingness to discuss things openly that leads people to points like this?
Yes.
I was going to type a lot but it's not anyone's business. But yes, and if you're lucky you can start to communicate openly and honestly before you reach the point of no return.
J
Is the point of NO return when you whinge about your wife on a swinger site whilst looking for casual sex?
It's got to be pretty close. But it would depend on the woman and whether both parties can be honest with themselves and each other about what has brought them to that point. And whether both parties are prepared to put in the hard work to repair things.
J"
I think we can safely say the male party isn't putting in the hard work as he's here without her knowledge. Same would go for cheating women before anyone comes for me! |
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"I always wonder what the spouse being spoken about would say about the situations being portrayed.
Is it an unwillingness to discuss things openly that leads people to points like this?
Yes.
I was going to type a lot but it's not anyone's business. But yes, and if you're lucky you can start to communicate openly and honestly before you reach the point of no return.
J
Is the point of NO return when you whinge about your wife on a swinger site whilst looking for casual sex?
It's got to be pretty close. But it would depend on the woman and whether both parties can be honest with themselves and each other about what has brought them to that point. And whether both parties are prepared to put in the hard work to repair things.
J"
Yes. I think these hard conversations are often explosive and disrupt the relationship. But stuff like this thread are corrosive and also bring the stability of a relationship down. |
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By (user no longer on site) 32 weeks ago
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"I find that women generally place a higher value on intimate relationships and need
to be emotionally supported. Whereas men place a much higher value on sexual intimacy than women and as a consequence, and in answer to your question, mature women are less likely to seek out sex with a man (stranger) just to gratify some sexual urge. I think that's why so many men in your (our) position seek sexual intimacy with other other men to satisfy some kind of primal urge that has existed since time began. We want the sex without the emotional baggage and commitment. I doubt that you'll ever find what you're looking for but good luck anyway....
I was with you up until the word 'baggage' ....
What most seem to need here is a pro ztitute... So pay ffs.... no one will blame you for it.
But NOOOOOOOOOOO men don't want to pay. They want the woman to 'want' them .... funny old world - a world full of rotating tables it seems....
It was the word baggage that caught my eye. It's only baggage when women want it."
I couldn’t agree more with the comment above.
Being ‘mature’ ladies sometimes equates to not accepting 2nd best and putting yourself first.
If the males emotional commitment and connection is already elsewhere, what’s in it for me; absolutely nothing! |
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By *arkus1812Man 32 weeks ago
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I was doing fine in my 70s both on here and in the real world, but now in my mid 80s not so good.
Will keep persevering however, nothing ventured, nothing gained.  |
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By *unchalMan 32 weeks ago
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"…I think that's why so many men in your (our) position seek sexual intimacy with other other men to satisfy some kind of primal urge that has existed since time began…"
That is a very reductive way of thinking about bisexuality. I don’t have sex with men because I can’t find a woman. And I would be very surprised if there are many men who have sex with other men because they don’t have an available woman. |
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By *arkus1812Man 32 weeks ago
Lifes departure lounge NN9 Northamptonshire East not West MidlandsMidlands |
"…I think that's why so many men in your (our) position seek sexual intimacy with other other men to satisfy some kind of primal urge that has existed since time began…
That is a very reductive way of thinking about bisexuality. I don’t have sex with men because I can’t find a woman. And I would be very surprised if there are many men who have sex with other men because they don’t have an available woman. "
Never, even as a last resort, would I contemplate having sex with another male. |
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By *unchalMan 32 weeks ago
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"…I think that's why so many men in your (our) position seek sexual intimacy with other other men to satisfy some kind of primal urge that has existed since time began…
That is a very reductive way of thinking about bisexuality. I don’t have sex with men because I can’t find a woman. And I would be very surprised if there are many men who have sex with other men because they don’t have an available woman.
Never, even as a last resort, would I contemplate having sex with another male."
I guess the thinking might go along the lines of ‘I’m not a pervert, I’m only doing because I have to, not because I want to…’ |
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