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It would be about the only brexit 'benefit', though I wouldn't count your chickens too early, as it would mean startup costs of new bottles and production etc and it's going to depend on the demand. It's probably going to be better value to buy in current volumes. Did anyone vote leave, for the likes of this bonus?  |
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Look everyone, wine in pints! Look over here! Don't look over there at the failing NHS or the cost of living crisis! LOOK OVER HERE DAMMIT!!!
Glad to see the Government have got their priorities straight.....
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"Look everyone, wine in pints! Look over here! Don't look over there at the failing NHS or the cost of living crisis! LOOK OVER HERE DAMMIT!!!
Glad to see the Government have got their priorities straight.....
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They actually do this already..
If you read the labels you will find that alcohol percentages vary. It varies between countries too and Argentina wines are stronger than Italian. German wines are by far the weakest |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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"It comes in pints!? I'm getting one"
It currently comes in a bottle just over 1.3 pints. If you like a lot of wine, why go for the smaller option? Why will you be getting one?
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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Here's a cut and paste from the UK government's own website.
"The results of our analysis showed that 98.7% of respondents were in favour of using metric units when buying or selling product, either as the primary unit of sale (maintaining status quo) or as the sole unit of sale (purely metric). 1.3% of respondents were in favour of increased use of imperial units when buying or selling products, either by increased choice between using metric and imperial units or moving to a purely imperial system."
Nice to see the will of the people taking precedence.
Sounds like more choice for people who are happy with the current choices as they are.
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"Here's a cut and paste from the UK government's own website.
"The results of our analysis showed that 98.7% of respondents were in favour of using metric units when buying or selling product, either as the primary unit of sale (maintaining status quo) or as the sole unit of sale (purely metric). 1.3% of respondents were in favour of increased use of imperial units when buying or selling products, either by increased choice between using metric and imperial units or moving to a purely imperial system."
Nice to see the will of the people taking precedence.
Sounds like more choice for people who are happy with the current choices as they are.
Gbat "
And not the usual negative Batty |
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By *phroditeWoman 48 weeks ago
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"Here's a cut and paste from the UK government's own website.
"The results of our analysis showed that 98.7% of respondents were in favour of using metric units when buying or selling product, either as the primary unit of sale (maintaining status quo) or as the sole unit of sale (purely metric). 1.3% of respondents were in favour of increased use of imperial units when buying or selling products, either by increased choice between using metric and imperial units or moving to a purely imperial system."
Nice to see the will of the people taking precedence.
Sounds like more choice for people who are happy with the current choices as they are.
Gbat "
Let's hope it stays that way - I really do not want to go back to imperial when so many people struggle with the maths. Decimal is so much easier. |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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Read it more carefully Tom, if you could hear my voice you'd realise it's dripping with contempt for the UK government and their stupid distraction.
I can only think this Pint of wine shit is to keep their UKIP fringe onside and distract from the real business of the day.
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By *phroditeWoman 48 weeks ago
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"Read it more carefully Tom, if you could hear my voice you'd realise it's dripping with contempt for the UK government and their stupid distraction.
I can only think this Pint of wine shit is to keep their UKIP fringe onside and distract from the real business of the day.
Gbat "
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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" I really do not want to go back to imperial when so many people struggle with the maths. Decimal is so much easier. "
The preamble on the Gov.uk website even tries to big up the use of imperial units saying how it's culturally important to Brits.
We still use miles on the roads because no government has ever bothered to change it. The UK's national mapping agency have been using only metric for years.
People still use old imperial stuff not because it's more culturally acceptable, it's because that's the norm. I'm sure making those final changes would take very little time to embed.
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By *phroditeWoman 48 weeks ago
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" I really do not want to go back to imperial when so many people struggle with the maths. Decimal is so much easier.
The preamble on the Gov.uk website even tries to big up the use of imperial units saying how it's culturally important to Brits.
We still use miles on the roads because no government has ever bothered to change it. The UK's national mapping agency have been using only metric for years.
People still use old imperial stuff not because it's more culturally acceptable, it's because that's the norm. I'm sure making those final changes would take very little time to embed.
Gbat "
I think you are spot on, a smoke screen to distract from what is really going on and an appeasement to the likes of the Reform party. It may work, temporarily.... |
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"Look everyone, wine in pints! Look over here! Don't look over there at the failing NHS or the cost of living crisis! LOOK OVER HERE DAMMIT!!!
Glad to see the Government have got their priorities straight.....
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By (user no longer on site) 48 weeks ago
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"Dunno if I’m new here or what but haven’t we always been able to buy wine in bottles?
Why does the carrier matter
We will soon be able to buy it in pints.. "
Just like you can buy it in bottles?
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By *phroditeWoman 48 weeks ago
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"Dunno if I’m new here or what but haven’t we always been able to buy wine in bottles?
Why does the carrier matter "
It does not really matter, I agree. Some get it in cartons, some in massive Magnum bottles, who cares.
What does matter more is the fact we are being told it will be available going back to imperial measures (pint =568 millilitres) and that is a nod towards the right wing people who want to enforce anything and everything that separates the UK from the European Community. It is a bit like saying lets bring back gallons to the petrol stations....
Now decimal is much easier to work with, mathematically, for the majority of people, especially the younger generation who grew up with it. And there is the concern that people will get confused with comparing a pint of something with 750 ml because they may not easily convert a pint into ml. Therefore, people may think that a pint is "almost as much" as the wine bottle they are used to but in fact it is nearly a third less. Hope that makes sense . |
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"Dunno if I’m new here or what but haven’t we always been able to buy wine in bottles?
Why does the carrier matter
It does not really matter, I agree. Some get it in cartons, some in massive Magnum bottles, who cares.
What does matter more is the fact we are being told it will be available going back to imperial measures (pint =568 millilitres) and that is a nod towards the right wing people who want to enforce anything and everything that separates the UK from the European Community. It is a bit like saying lets bring back gallons to the petrol stations....
Now decimal is much easier to work with, mathematically, for the majority of people, especially the younger generation who grew up with it. And there is the concern that people will get confused with comparing a pint of something with 750 ml because they may not easily convert a pint into ml. Therefore, people may think that a pint is "almost as much" as the wine bottle they are used to but in fact it is nearly a third less. Hope that makes sense ."
Ah yes, the right wing
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By *phroditeWoman 48 weeks ago
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"Dunno if I’m new here or what but haven’t we always been able to buy wine in bottles?
Why does the carrier matter
It does not really matter, I agree. Some get it in cartons, some in massive Magnum bottles, who cares.
What does matter more is the fact we are being told it will be available going back to imperial measures (pint =568 millilitres) and that is a nod towards the right wing people who want to enforce anything and everything that separates the UK from the European Community. It is a bit like saying lets bring back gallons to the petrol stations....
Now decimal is much easier to work with, mathematically, for the majority of people, especially the younger generation who grew up with it. And there is the concern that people will get confused with comparing a pint of something with 750 ml because they may not easily convert a pint into ml. Therefore, people may think that a pint is "almost as much" as the wine bottle they are used to but in fact it is nearly a third less. Hope that makes sense .
Ah yes, the right wing
It’s always the right wing "
lol, not always but in this specific case it is a nod to the right wing of the tories... ERG etc.  |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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"Ah yes, the right wing
It’s always the right wing. "
This is being brought in by the current government. Are you arguing that they aren't right wing?
What do you personally think the driving force is for bringing this in? Why a pint and not say, 600ml?
What's wrong with decimal measurements that we need to bring in something else?
Will this "extra choice" be worth the effort, or is it just a nod to this much touted idea of exercising sovereignty?
I'm genuinely interested in what YOU think the drivers are for this and whether it's worth it.
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"Ah yes, the right wing
It’s always the right wing.
This is being brought in by the current government. Are you arguing that they aren't right wing?
What do you personally think the driving force is for bringing this in? Why a pint and not say, 600ml?
What's wrong with decimal measurements that we need to bring in something else?
Will this "extra choice" be worth the effort, or is it just a nod to this much touted idea of exercising sovereignty?
I'm genuinely interested in what YOU think the drivers are for this and whether it's worth it.
Gbat "
More options at the pub and we already sell stuff in pints so just copying that
Or maybe it is a bug right wing conspired, who knows |
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By *phroditeWoman 48 weeks ago
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"Ah yes, the right wing
It’s always the right wing.
This is being brought in by the current government. Are you arguing that they aren't right wing?
What do you personally think the driving force is for bringing this in? Why a pint and not say, 600ml?
What's wrong with decimal measurements that we need to bring in something else?
Will this "extra choice" be worth the effort, or is it just a nod to this much touted idea of exercising sovereignty?
I'm genuinely interested in what YOU think the drivers are for this and whether it's worth it.
Gbat "
GBat, you put it very succinctly, absolutely. Why not say 568 ml bottle (like it does on some other beverage containers...)? I, too, would like to know if there is another... ANY other reason other for it... |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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"“pints are right wing” wasn’t on my bingo card though, so I am impressed there "
No one said that.
I think the introduction of selling wine in pint bottles is driven by a desire to satisfy the right wing of the Tory party and their fringe.
Bottled beer is sold in what sizes? I've never heard anyone moaning about bottled and canned beers. Until now, I'd never heard anybody moaning about bottles of wine in their many current and differing sizes.
My question to you (which I don't think you've answered) is what do YOU think the drivers are for this change. I've said what I think, I wonder if you'll say what you think?
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"“pints are right wing” wasn’t on my bingo card though, so I am impressed there
No one said that.
I think the introduction of selling wine in pint bottles is driven by a desire to satisfy the right wing of the Tory party and their fringe.
Bottled beer is sold in what sizes? I've never heard anyone moaning about bottled and canned beers. Until now, I'd never heard anybody moaning about bottles of wine in their many current and differing sizes.
My question to you (which I don't think you've answered) is what do YOU think the drivers are for this change. I've said what I think, I wonder if you'll say what you think?
Gbat "
I think that literally 0.0001% of people give a flying fuck or even think about it
So right wing or not, I don’t think it matters. We’re a weird country that still sells stuff in pints, measures in foot and weighs people by the stone. But we draw the line at wine in pints?
Personally, I think more choice for the consumer, the better. So why not |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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Read above and it will tell you what the consumer wants. That's a high percentage.
The UK economy is shit. People are living in tents that Braverman wants taken off them. The promised boost to the north with HS2 now stops in the south. The NHS is broken. Millionaires are getting richer.
So let's bring in a new sized bottle of wine. You're right. Most people won't think it's important. So why the fuck aren't they doing the important stuff instead of this?
The Tories are Right wing, you know that don't you?
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"Read above and it will tell you what the consumer wants. That's a high percentage.
The UK economy is shit. People are living in tents that Braverman wants taken off them. The promised boost to the north with HS2 now stops in the south. The NHS is broken. Millionaires are getting richer.
So let's bring in a new sized bottle of wine. You're right. Most people won't think it's important. So why the fuck aren't they doing the important stuff instead of this?
The Tories are Right wing, you know that don't you?
Gbat "
I’m so lost
What’s the negatives here?
Will bringing out this new measurement mean they aren’t fixing anything else?
Do you think if they didn’t bring out this new measurement, they’d instead fix homelessness tomorrow? Surely you understand that an issue like homelessness has been going on for centuries and takes quite a diverse level of effort to fix? And bringing out a new measurement for wine isn’t even comparable
To me, I don’t get why anyone gives a fuck
Oh I can buy a pint of wine now. Might be cool on a nice summer day. That’s it.
Why is anyone upset? |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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Because they are crowing about it like it’s some big coup.
And people are falling for it, some of them thinking that the UK is indeed flexing its independent political muscle. And all this despite their consultation survey saying “don’t do it please.”
That’s why it’s an issue for me.
Of course I understand the seriousness of the other issues I outlined. That’s why they should get on with trying to solve them.
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Well it not a phrase that Tom uses or likes but they are Picking the low hanging fruit or in this case, the lw hanging grapes. It was Winston Churchill, the great wartime leader, who is exhaled as saying. A pint of wine is perfect for two at lunchtime and the perfect measure for one in the evening.
Tom is often asked to go for a pint but never a 568. |
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"Because they are crowing about it like it’s some big coup.
And people are falling for it, some of them thinking that the UK is indeed flexing its independent political muscle. And all this despite their consultation survey saying “don’t do it please.”
That’s why it’s an issue for me.
Of course I understand the seriousness of the other issues I outlined. That’s why they should get on with trying to solve them.
Gbat "
Batty, In a few months there will be a change of government and the only thing different will be a different set of noses in the trough or troff. It matters not about the spelling but there will just be a different set of pigs just like in animal farm |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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"Batty, In a few months there will be a change of government and the only thing different will be a different set of noses in the trough or troff. It matters not about the spelling but there will just be a different set of pigs just like in animal farm "
Let's see. I'm sure no new government will be perfect, but if the current rascals are the best the UK can do, then you lot are fucked.
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I'm not sure it is necessarily a "right wing" thing - Brexit was voted for by a lot of people in traditional Labour strongholds - but the tendency to think Imperial measures are superior to metric ones does smack of populism, isolationism and exceptionalism harking back to past glories - none of which necessarily addressing some of the real issues that are affecting the country currently, and like many policies belching out of the death-throes of this government appear to be more aimed at winning votes than making life better for as many people as possible.
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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I think most people realise that, yes.
We should put furlongs onto all the road signs as well as miles and that pesky modern Kilometre. That way people have more choice.
I'm also looking forward to a Firkin or Hogshead of ale.
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"I think most people realise that, yes.
We should put furlongs onto all the road signs as well as miles and that pesky modern Kilometre. That way people have more choice.
I'm also looking forward to a Firkin or Hogshead of ale.
Gbat
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Given that you’ve fled to Spain why do you give a fat rats ass? |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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Because .....
I'm forced to pay taxes in the UK.
My parents live there.
My children live there.
Many friends and wider family live there.
People here know I used to live in the UK and I'm ashamed of what goes on there.
By the way, I didn't flee. I ambled over and can choose if and when I ever go back to the UK. At the moment, I can't see that ever happening. I didn't even renew my UK passport and rely on my other (dual) nationality.
Like many people, I take an interest in other parts of the world and can see how what goes on in one place can have an effect in other places.
What about you?
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"Because .....
I'm forced to pay taxes in the UK.
My parents live there.
My children live there.
Many friends and wider family live there.
People here know I used to live in the UK and I'm ashamed of what goes on there.
By the way, I didn't flee. I ambled over and can choose if and when I ever go back to the UK. At the moment, I can't see that ever happening. I didn't even renew my UK passport and rely on my other (dual) nationality.
Like many people, I take an interest in other parts of the world and can see how what goes on in one place can have an effect in other places.
What about you?
Gbat "
So you have a foot in both camps just in case the UK becomes the land of milk and honey again? Not entirely sure what you mean by what about you?! |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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"So you have a foot in both camps just in case the UK becomes the land of milk and honey again? "
No, I can go back if I want, but I don't think I ever will. I love my life here. Because I'm both an EU citizen and a UK national, I can do that. So could all UK nationals until recently.
I have a foot in both camps purely because of my tax situation and family connections.
"Not entirely sure what you mean by what about you?!"
What are your thoughts on the matter? Do you/Don't you give a rat's arse?
Why do you think the UK government is making a big thing about Pint Bottles of wine? To give consumer's more choice (that the survey said they didn't want) or to pander to their UKIP toadies or Jacob Rees Smug and his ilk?
Personally I don't care about what size wine you buy, but I do care about this rose tinted harkening back to adventures with Enid Blyton and Pints of Wine at the Mayor's ball.
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By *rs spicyCouple 48 weeks ago
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"I think most people realise that, yes.
We should put furlongs onto all the road signs as well as miles and that pesky modern Kilometre. That way people have more choice.
I'm also looking forward to a Firkin or Hogshead of ale.
Gbat
I hope you get all those but at the moment it only seems to be you that wants them.
Good luck though.
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"So you have a foot in both camps just in case the UK becomes the land of milk and honey again?
No, I can go back if I want, but I don't think I ever will. I love my life here. Because I'm both an EU citizen and a UK national, I can do that. So could all UK nationals until recently.
I have a foot in both camps purely because of my tax situation and family connections.
Not entirely sure what you mean by what about you?!
What are your thoughts on the matter? Do you/Don't you give a rat's arse?
Why do you think the UK government is making a big thing about Pint Bottles of wine? To give consumer's more choice (that the survey said they didn't want) or to pander to their UKIP toadies or Jacob Rees Smug and his ilk?
Personally I don't care about what size wine you buy, but I do care about this rose tinted harkening back to adventures with Enid Blyton and Pints of Wine at the Mayor's ball.
Gbat "
Oh Dear Batty..
Despite you living in the land of milk and honey..
Why the bitternes ,?
Assuming you believe in democracy..
The majority voted leave..
It's so easy to understand..
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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Were they voting for a regression to pints of wine? Do we start paying in shillings next?
Bitterness? Because the UK are still beating themselves to death figuratively speaking.
Why do you think a pint of wine is important Piperson?
Assuming you believe in democracy, why didn't the government follow their own survey results? What next? A Tory peer happens to own a Pint Bottle factory??
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By *rs spicyCouple 48 weeks ago
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"Apparently it's not about what people want. The governments own survey said the UK public didn't want this.
Gbat "
And if you don't want it you are under no obligation to buy it. You can continue buying your preferred measure.
I honestly can't see what you're getting so angry about. |
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Gbat
I think that literally 0.0001% of people give a flying fuck or even think about it
So right wing or not, I don’t think it matters. We’re a weird country that still sells stuff in pints, measures in foot and weighs people by the stone. But we draw the line at wine in pints?
Personally, I think more choice for the consumer, the better. So why not "
We've been measuring and manufacturing in metres for years now. We've been weighing people in kgs for years now. We've been selling milk and beer in pints.Unless you are american it makes no sense; even having said that it makes no sense because american measures are different again.
Good old brexit before that our offspring had a choice of 27 countries to go and work in by right. Good old brexit now they aren't spoiled for choice having only 4.
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Assuming you believe in democracy..
The majority voted leave..
It's so easy to understand..
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Voted for after a campaign of lies and misinformation. Let's not truth and facts cloud our understanding eh? |
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By *ornLordMan 48 weeks ago
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Assuming you believe in democracy..
The majority voted leave..
It's so easy to understand..
Voted for after a campaign of lies and misinformation. Let's not truth and facts cloud our understanding eh?"
No, let's not. That 'advisory referendum' that our cowardly politicians allowed to be hijacked after a campaign of lies and misinformation that the blukip government pursues to the present day. |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
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"And if you don't want it you are under no obligation to buy it. You can continue buying your preferred measure.
I honestly can't see what you're getting so angry about. "
Sigh .... I'm not angry about it. My comments aren't about the size of wine bottles, they are about the bigger picture.
I live in Spain and will continue to buy wine in the same size bottle that I've always bought.
I'm just so disappointed that the UK, that I still have ties to, is regressing.
I don't care what size wine you buy, but I do care that a failing government is wasting time and money on this and some people are making a big deal out of it as if it's some major political coup.
Do you actually want to buy smaller bottles of wine?
Do you care if it's a pint or a half litre?
Would you prefer 600ml or 568ml?
Do you think that the bottling companies won't pass the extra start up costs on to you?
It's as if a trickster is waving shiny things and everyone is looking in the wrong direction.
But I'm not actually angry.
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By *rs spicyCouple 48 weeks ago
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"And if you don't want it you are under no obligation to buy it. You can continue buying your preferred measure.
I honestly can't see what you're getting so angry about.
Sigh .... I'm not angry about it. My comments aren't about the size of wine bottles, they are about the bigger picture.
I live in Spain and will continue to buy wine in the same size bottle that I've always bought.
I'm just so disappointed that the UK, that I still have ties to, is regressing.
I don't care what size wine you buy, but I do care that a failing government is wasting time and money on this and some people are making a big deal out of it as if it's some major political coup.
Do you actually want to buy smaller bottles of wine?
Do you care if it's a pint or a half litre?
Would you prefer 600ml or 568ml?
Do you think that the bottling companies won't pass the extra start up costs on to you?
It's as if a trickster is waving shiny things and everyone is looking in the wrong direction.
But I'm not actually angry.
Gbat "
It's as if a trickster us showing you shiny things and you're mesmerised by them. You're not seeing the bigger picture.
When the pints come in there will be more consumer choice. The price of bottles are priced into the price on all bottled products, so I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make there, if any.
It also seems to be that no one is making a big deal of it apart from you. Again, there is no compulsion to buy your wine in pints, you can still buy your preferred measure.
I honestly can't see any reason for you to get angry about this. |
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"And if you don't want it you are under no obligation to buy it. You can continue buying your preferred measure.
I honestly can't see what you're getting so angry about.
Sigh .... I'm not angry about it. My comments aren't about the size of wine bottles, they are about the bigger picture.
I live in Spain and will continue to buy wine in the same size bottle that I've always bought.
I'm just so disappointed that the UK, that I still have ties to, is regressing.
I don't care what size wine you buy, but I do care that a failing government is wasting time and money on this and some people are making a big deal out of it as if it's some major political coup.
Do you actually want to buy smaller bottles of wine?
Do you care if it's a pint or a half litre?
Would you prefer 600ml or 568ml?
Do you think that the bottling companies won't pass the extra start up costs on to you?
It's as if a trickster is waving shiny things and everyone is looking in the wrong direction.
But I'm not actually angry.
Gbat "
But you sound angry Batty |
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"Were they voting for a regression to pints of wine? Do we start paying in shillings next?
Bitterness? Because the UK are still beating themselves to death figuratively speaking.
Why do you think a pint of wine is important Piperson?
Assuming you believe in democracy, why didn't the government follow their own survey results? What next? A Tory peer happens to own a Pint Bottle factory??
Gbat "
The grapes in Alicante appear to be sour Batty.... |
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"Watch out for wine coming to our shelves in pints. Is this another Brexit benefit?
It's all over the news "
Will they be sold in pint glasses like the glasses of wine you can buy in the shops already? |
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
" The price of bottles are priced into the price on all bottled products, so I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make there, if any. "
Which company already produces wine bottles in pint sizes? If there aren't any, then somebody will have to pay to make them. Change doesn't come for free. There'll be a set up price won't there?
" It also seems to be that no one is making a big deal of it apart from you. "
Well, me and you. And all the other posters.
" I honestly can't see any reason for you to get angry about this. "
I can't say it too many times. I'm not angry about it. Why do you keep saying that? Why do you think me having a firm opinion is somehow expressing anger?
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" The price of bottles are priced into the price on all bottled products, so I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make there, if any.
Which company already produces wine bottles in pint sizes? If there aren't any, then somebody will have to pay to make them. Change doesn't come for free. There'll be a set up price won't there?
It also seems to be that no one is making a big deal of it apart from you.
Well, me and you. And all the other posters.
I honestly can't see any reason for you to get angry about this.
I can't say it too many times. I'm not angry about it. Why do you keep saying that? Why do you think me having a firm opinion is somehow expressing anger?
Gbat "
You seem so angry tho Batty
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
" You seem so angry tho Batty
Chillax"
One of the signs of autism is an inability to decipher other people’s emotions.
Are you struggling with this Tom? It’s always harder with the written word.
Don’t worry though, many of us who use the forum actually celebrate diversity and you are always welcome here.
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By *rs spicyCouple 48 weeks ago
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" The price of bottles are priced into the price on all bottled products, so I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to make there, if any.
Which company already produces wine bottles in pint sizes? If there aren't any, then somebody will have to pay to make them. Change doesn't come for free. There'll be a set up price won't there?
It also seems to be that no one is making a big deal of it apart from you.
Well, me and you. And all the other posters.
I honestly can't see any reason for you to get angry about this.
I can't say it too many times. I'm not angry about it. Why do you keep saying that? Why do you think me having a firm opinion is somehow expressing anger?
Gbat "
Bottle producing companies will produce pint bottles for about the same price as bottles they already produce. All companies in that field will try to undercut others in order to get orders. It's very basic business and no big deal. If the price of pint bottles is too much, wine producers will not use them as they are NOT compulsory.
Again, very simple and nothing to make an issue of or get angry about.
There is only you getting angry about consumer choice being expanded. I'm only trying to point out that it is no big deal. If you don't want to buy a pint of wine you really don't have to.
Again, very basic and nothing to get angry about.
You having a firm opinion about not giving people the option of buying a pint of wine is fine. Illogical but fine. The way you're expressing that opinion is in a very angry manner.
Relax, calm down and have some wine. You choose how much.
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
Mrs Spicy,
I'll try one last time.
(Imagine me saying this in a calm, slightly jocular manner)
I'm not saying there shouldn't be a choice of buying wine by the pint. I don't care what size wine people buy.
What I do care about is this ...
This is what happened ...
The UK government undertook a survey asking if people wanted to use imperial measurements rather than metric.
Here's a cut and paste of the result.
"The consultation was published in June 2022 and received over 100,000 responses. Analysis showed 98.7% of respondents were in favour of using metric units when buying or selling products, either as the primary unit of sale (as currently) or as the sole unit of sale (purely metric). After careful consideration, the Government has decided not to introduce any new legislation at this time."
Having done their research, they then went on to champion selling wine by the pint as if it was some great triumph.
On the UK governments website, they even talk about the cultural importance of imperial measurements.
"The UK has a long and proud history of using imperial measures and their use is closely associated with our culture and language. [ ... ] Imperial units therefore continue to play a role in our everyday shared experience."
This is where I have an issue. This seeming idealogical desire to recreate a UK that never really existed.
Personally I think it's been done not to give consumers more choice, but as a sop to the ERG and UKIPers within the Tory orbit. Is this really what Brexit meant to people?
Just so I'm clear. I'm not angry about pints of wine, I'm just constantly disappointed in the UK government. I feel strongly about it.
Cheers,
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"Mrs Spicy,
I'll try one last time.
(Imagine me saying this in a calm, slightly jocular manner)
I'm not saying there shouldn't be a choice of buying wine by the pint. I don't care what size wine people buy.
What I do care about is this ...
This is what happened ...
The UK government undertook a survey asking if people wanted to use imperial measurements rather than metric.
Here's a cut and paste of the result.
"The consultation was published in June 2022 and received over 100,000 responses. Analysis showed 98.7% of respondents were in favour of using metric units when buying or selling products, either as the primary unit of sale (as currently) or as the sole unit of sale (purely metric). After careful consideration, the Government has decided not to introduce any new legislation at this time."
Having done their research, they then went on to champion selling wine by the pint as if it was some great triumph.
On the UK governments website, they even talk about the cultural importance of imperial measurements.
"The UK has a long and proud history of using imperial measures and their use is closely associated with our culture and language. [ ... ] Imperial units therefore continue to play a role in our everyday shared experience."
This is where I have an issue. This seeming idealogical desire to recreate a UK that never really existed.
Personally I think it's been done not to give consumers more choice, but as a sop to the ERG and UKIPers within the Tory orbit. Is this really what Brexit meant to people?
Just so I'm clear. I'm not angry about pints of wine, I'm just constantly disappointed in the UK government. I feel strongly about it.
Cheers,
Gbat "
yes
GBAT. Your posts are always well considered, and on a personal level Tom welcomes them.
Tom wishes you a happy new year and more debate
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By *lan157Man 48 weeks ago
a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex |
You can buy wine in " half bottles" if you can find them stocked anywhere as they are not popular . I see the same thing with wine bottles in one pint sizes . You don't drink wine " by the pint" in a pint glass . It's not a relevant measure so will fail. |
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Inshort... less wine for the same price. Because we all know there won't be a decrease. It'll work like council tax, goes up every year but you don't get a better service for it.
Fantastic diversion from everything else that's actually important though. There's always something ridiculous at the top of the news, it was rotten turkeys (same as every year) afew days ago |
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"Britain must lead the way for mega boozers.. "
I wouldn't say that,but we certainly lead the way for binge drinking assholes who can't handle it and act like animals.
We are world number 1 at that. |
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By *rs spicyCouple 48 weeks ago
Chesterfield near centre |
"Mrs Spicy,
I'll try one last time.
(Imagine me saying this in a calm, slightly jocular manner)
I'm not saying there shouldn't be a choice of buying wine by the pint. I don't care what size wine people buy.
What I do care about is this ...
This is what happened ...
The UK government undertook a survey asking if people wanted to use imperial measurements rather than metric.
Here's a cut and paste of the result.
"The consultation was published in June 2022 and received over 100,000 responses. Analysis showed 98.7% of respondents were in favour of using metric units when buying or selling products, either as the primary unit of sale (as currently) or as the sole unit of sale (purely metric). After careful consideration, the Government has decided not to introduce any new legislation at this time."
Having done their research, they then went on to champion selling wine by the pint as if it was some great triumph.
On the UK governments website, they even talk about the cultural importance of imperial measurements.
"The UK has a long and proud history of using imperial measures and their use is closely associated with our culture and language. [ ... ] Imperial units therefore continue to play a role in our everyday shared experience."
This is where I have an issue. This seeming idealogical desire to recreate a UK that never really existed.
Personally I think it's been done not to give consumers more choice, but as a sop to the ERG and UKIPers within the Tory orbit. Is this really what Brexit meant to people?
Just so I'm clear. I'm not angry about pints of wine, I'm just constantly disappointed in the UK government. I feel strongly about it.
Cheers,
Gbat "
Brilliant!
So you don't care that people can now buy wine by the pint.
Well done! We got there eventually.
The face saving was a little embarrassing but well done you!
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By *batMan 48 weeks ago
Alicante, Spain. (Sometimes in Wales) |
"So you don't care that people can now buy wine by the pint.
Well done! We got there eventually. "
Pay attention, I'd already said it twice above in previous posts. Perhaps you should cut back on your wine sizes?
Face saving? I was just spelling it out for those of you that don't read what's written and project non existent emotions onto someone else's written word.
Why would I need to save face? Neither of us cares what the other person thinks about us.
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"Britain must lead the way for mega boozers..
I wouldn't say that,but we certainly lead the way for binge drinking assholes who can't handle it and act like animals.
We are world number 1 at that."
Yes that's more what I meant... |
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By *phroditeWoman 48 weeks ago
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Not sure how others feel but let lone the Brexit connotation in this discussion, to me there is something intrinsically wrong with buying a pint of wine should that ever be allowed in a pub.
Wine is something to be enjoyed in smaller quantities, it is different from lager and cider in that it contains more alcohol.
To be it would feel a bit unsophisticated to order a pint of wine (unlike a pint of lager).
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"Not sure how others feel but let lone the Brexit connotation in this discussion, to me there is something intrinsically wrong with buying a pint of wine should that ever be allowed in a pub.
Wine is something to be enjoyed in smaller quantities, it is different from lager and cider in that it contains more alcohol.
To be it would feel a bit unsophisticated to order a pint of wine (unlike a pint of lager).
Thoughts? "
It's not about selling pints of wine in pubs. It's about selling wine in shops in pint containers.
Of course you can already buy bottles of wine in many pubs and even wine on draught. A pint of wine will be sold in containers also marked 568mls.
It's just one example of the freedoms we have gained since we left Europe. |
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By *phroditeWoman 47 weeks ago
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"Not sure how others feel but let lone the Brexit connotation in this discussion, to me there is something intrinsically wrong with buying a pint of wine should that ever be allowed in a pub.
Wine is something to be enjoyed in smaller quantities, it is different from lager and cider in that it contains more alcohol.
To be it would feel a bit unsophisticated to order a pint of wine (unlike a pint of lager).
Thoughts?
It's not about selling pints of wine in pubs. It's about selling wine in shops in pint containers.
Of course you can already buy bottles of wine in many pubs and even wine on draught. A pint of wine will be sold in containers also marked 568mls.
It's just one example of the freedoms we have gained since we left Europe. "
I understand and hear what you are saying. Tbh I really am not bothered how wine is bottled/ sold but I very much doubt it will be a benefit to the British people.
Having worked in the packaging industry I am acutely aware that changing the tooling to fill a non standard bottle line is very expensive and it will ultimately be charged to the customer...the British people.
Also I do not understand how this can be celebrated as a Brexit success where are the other freedoms?? But maybe that is a different thread altogether.
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By (user no longer on site) 47 weeks ago
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"Watch out for wine coming to our shelves in pints. Is this another Brexit benefit?
It's all over the news "
Two bottles and I’m done. Now I need to do maths to work out how many pint bottles to get me the right amount d*unk. |
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