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Reports that parking on the pavements will cost Scottish drivers a £100 fine.
If the building developers made the roads wider instead of cramming as many houses per hectare in as possible then we would not have the problem |
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Good luck to the emergency services getting up and down my road. With cars pavement parking it's not a problem. Lucky for me I'm not in Scotland. I'm sorry to say that the Scottish government aren't great they are almost as bad the the UK government  |
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By (user no longer on site) 52 weeks ago
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if cars park on the road. emergency services can't get through. they tried to do this in certain London boroughs 10 odd years ago. Day 2.. fire at end of road. engine couldn't get up there |
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By (user no longer on site) 52 weeks ago
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Only in Edinburgh so far - local bylaw, not Scottish Govt, btw.
Pavement parking is dangerous - I've got friends who are blind, having to navigate around cars can put them in the way of traffic. They've had some near misses in the past. |
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Its one of those things in that it's a problem that does need fixing but it causes other issues.
It's a band-aid instead of an actual solution.
Pavement parking more often than not causes issues and dangers for pedestrians, especially those with prams, wheelchairs, or the blind.
However as others have stated above, some roads are so narrow that pavement parking is the only way for emergency services to get down the road.
The problem is infrastructure and road design, which of course is a much larger issue to tackle, so instead this is why we get the band-aid solutions. |
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"Oh well that makes a point I had not thought of. But still a rroad safety issue for people on foot. "
Wheelchairs and pushchairs - it's a nightmare where I live, and some people drive like hooligans down my suburban street with several primary schools. Someone's going to get killed for just trying to get around  |
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"Reports that parking on the pavements will cost Scottish drivers a £100 fine.
If the building developers made the roads wider instead of cramming as many houses per hectare in as possible then we would not have the problem "
Shows how little you know about highway and property development. Before a developer can build a road on a housing estate the highway design has to be approved by the local authority highways department before planning permission is granted, and a section 38 road bond agreement or APC sum lodged with the local authority to ensure that the highway is constructed to the approved plans, and to adoptable standard. It's not us the property developers that are at fault, we only do what is acceptable to local authorities. |
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I just scrape the pram past the cars who park on the pavement they soon stop, they can piss off if they think I'm pushing the pram around them.
(To note everyone here has a drive most CBA to use it)
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By *wcdfor2TV/TS 52 weeks ago
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There is a moron on my estate who parks in front of the Emergeny services throughfare.
These are locked bollards which he uses for as his personal space.
People with prams cannot get past.
The fire brigade have been to see him, but he carries on.
I hope a stray firework doesn't go off near his precious Audi on N.Y.E
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By *orny-DJMan 52 weeks ago
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Since 1974, Highway Code rule 244 has stated that drivers "MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it."
A lot of areas are covered by local bylaws which means that in a lot of places you'll end up with a fine for doing so.
For instance, Essex County Council has bylaws in place concerning parking on the verge (any area adjacent to the carriage way, including pavements), but this does not apply in the Southend area because that is a different authority and Southend city council is based on a road by road basis - so there will be signs up alerting drivers to the restirctions - for example, in my street. |
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By (user no longer on site) 52 weeks ago
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We had a socket catch on fire. Fire engine couldn't get through because of parked cars. Had to go back in and put it out myself. Old people across the road called an ambulance because she was unwell. They had to push the trolly around the corner because they couldn't get through. The street here is very narrow but you would think people might have the decency to think for a moment.  |
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"Since 1974, Highway Code rule 244 has stated that drivers "MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it."
A lot of areas are covered by local bylaws which means that in a lot of places you'll end up with a fine for doing so.
For instance, Essex County Council has bylaws in place concerning parking on the verge (any area adjacent to the carriage way, including pavements), but this does not apply in the Southend area because that is a different authority and Southend city council is based on a road by road basis - so there will be signs up alerting drivers to the restirctions - for example, in my street."
I thought that parking on the pavement was generally against the law.
I understand the issue that emergency vehicles have in narrow streets but the flip side of that is that if is too narrow for an emergency vehicle then there is likely to be even less space on the pavement for people who need it - those physically less able, with prams etc.
If emergency access is critical then I would have thought that the solution was banning parking on one side of the road. Won’t happen because residents will be up in arms but pedestrians should always have priority over parked vehicles
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Just ridiculous and a scam, another way of making money out of the motorist. I have to park on the pavement on my side of the house because if we are parked on the road there is a definite possibility of damage to our vehicles.
I have already had to replace the drivers mirror twice and it still got hit and once by the bin men. WTF |
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"Just ridiculous and a scam, another way of making money out of the motorist. I have to park on the pavement on my side of the house because if we are parked on the road there is a definite possibility of damage to our vehicles.
I have already had to replace the drivers mirror twice and it still got hit and once by the bin men. WTF "
Its not a scam its in the highway code not to park on the curb.
Drivers are so ignorant and park on the curb whenever they feel like it with no concern for the pedestrian.
its bad enough for pedestrians you should try with a push chair or even a pram.
On about putting there lives at risk as they go out first into the rd.
To put it very bluntly an elderly lady with a walker fell due to having to go around a parked vehicle on the kurb.
What did it cost her 2 broken legs and a broken arm just to navigate an obnoxious idiot who thinks they have a right to park on the kerb.
They want fining only where the rd is too narrow for vehicles either side where vehicles are allowed to park on the kerb.
If you dont like that comment move.
either that or dig your garden up and park it on your own drive to park. |
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By *wcdfor2TV/TS 52 weeks ago
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If the pavement is blocked I will walk through someone's garden.
I have been challenged in the past.
"Why are you walking on my lawn ? "
"Would you be out shouting at me for being knocked down due to your parking" |
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By (user no longer on site) 51 weeks ago
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"We had a socket catch on fire. Fire engine couldn't get through because of parked cars. Had to go back in and put it out myself. Old people across the road called an ambulance because she was unwell. They had to push the trolly around the corner because they couldn't get through. The street here is very narrow but you would think people might have the decency to think for a moment. "
They should fit fire engines and ambulances with battering rams and steel spikes. Smash the cars out of the way.  |
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It just requires common sense. If you're parking on the path, it's usually because the road is too narrow. So when you park on the path, ensure there's enough room for prams, wheel chairs and enough room back on the road.
Just idiots park so far on the path to block it. |
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By *orny-DJMan 51 weeks ago
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"We had a socket catch on fire. Fire engine couldn't get through because of parked cars. Had to go back in and put it out myself. Old people across the road called an ambulance because she was unwell. They had to push the trolly around the corner because they couldn't get through. The street here is very narrow but you would think people might have the decency to think for a moment.
They should fit fire engines and ambulances with battering rams and steel spikes. Smash the cars out of the way. "
Actually, Fire Engines will smash vehicles out of the way if they're causing enough of an obstruction to them getting to the emergency, and on top of that will report any such offending vehicles, so not only will you have a damaged car, but you'll be prosecuted and have to pay for the damage to your car and the Fire appliance. |
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"It just requires common sense. If you're parking on the path, it's usually because the road is too narrow. So when you park on the path, ensure there's enough room for prams, wheel chairs and enough room back on the road.
Just idiots park so far on the path to block it. "
Common sense? It'll never take on |
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"I thought driving on a pavement was an offence already "
It is, so get bicycles and scooters off the pavement as well.
In Scotland this is simply another way of collecting revenue. The SNP led Devolved Government and councils are so far down the debt hole I would not be surprised if they produced a penalty for farting under the Anti Polution (Scotland) Act of 2023.  |
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By (user no longer on site) 51 weeks ago
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"We had a socket catch on fire. Fire engine couldn't get through because of parked cars. Had to go back in and put it out myself. Old people across the road called an ambulance because she was unwell. They had to push the trolly around the corner because they couldn't get through. The street here is very narrow but you would think people might have the decency to think for a moment.
They should fit fire engines and ambulances with battering rams and steel spikes. Smash the cars out of the way.
Actually, Fire Engines will smash vehicles out of the way if they're causing enough of an obstruction to them getting to the emergency, and on top of that will report any such offending vehicles, so not only will you have a damaged car, but you'll be prosecuted and have to pay for the damage to your car and the Fire appliance."
I hope this is true.
It might damage the fire engine though. |
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I have to work in the streets opening manholes etc..
We HAVE to leave a minimum of 1m which allows wheelchairs and prams etc to pass. Whenever I park half on the lwrb and half on the road, I ALWAYS make sure that I leave more than 1m, and it really winds me up when cockwombles park and completely block off the footpath.
I've personally seen prams get clipped by passing cars when mothers are forced into the road by knob heads blocking the pavements.
If people park and think of others it's fine, but unfortunately people thinking about anybody but themselves these days is becoming as rare as hens teeth. |
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By *orny-DJMan 51 weeks ago
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"We had a socket catch on fire. Fire engine couldn't get through because of parked cars. Had to go back in and put it out myself. Old people across the road called an ambulance because she was unwell. They had to push the trolly around the corner because they couldn't get through. The street here is very narrow but you would think people might have the decency to think for a moment.
They should fit fire engines and ambulances with battering rams and steel spikes. Smash the cars out of the way.
Actually, Fire Engines will smash vehicles out of the way if they're causing enough of an obstruction to them getting to the emergency, and on top of that will report any such offending vehicles, so not only will you have a damaged car, but you'll be prosecuted and have to pay for the damage to your car and the Fire appliance.
I hope this is true.
It might damage the fire engine though. "
A cousin of mine is a retired Fire Chief and I know other retired Fire fighters. |
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Tom is not a firefighter but was twice told that he would of been a good one. Once at a career event and another at a dinner party attended by some important people. They said that Tom has the potential to be a senior fire officer. It will never happen but Tom would make important changes |
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"I have to work in the streets opening manholes etc..
We HAVE to leave a minimum of 1m which allows wheelchairs and prams etc to pass. Whenever I park half on the lwrb and half on the road, I ALWAYS make sure that I leave more than 1m, and it really winds me up when cockwombles park and completely block off the footpath.
I've personally seen prams get clipped by passing cars when mothers are forced into the road by knob heads blocking the pavements.
If people park and think of others it's fine, but unfortunately people thinking about anybody but themselves these days is becoming as rare as hens teeth. "
As a frequent pedestrian, I thoroughly agree. |
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I live in England and twice have had parking tickets for parking on a kerb, not obstructing the pathway for anything to get through... So I already thought it was law here. But apparently not.. So was I fined wrongly.. |
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By *orny-DJMan 51 weeks ago
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"I live in England and twice have had parking tickets for parking on a kerb, not obstructing the pathway for anything to get through... So I already thought it was law here. But apparently not.. So was I fined wrongly.. "
It depends on the local authority.
For example, it is prohibbited throughout Essex, however, the Southend area is a separate authority and they do it slightly differently and on a street by street basis and signpost where it is prohibited |
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"Reports that parking on the pavements will cost Scottish drivers a £100 fine.
If the building developers made the roads wider instead of cramming as many houses per hectare in as possible then we would not have the problem "
?? good. |
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"Tom is not a firefighter but was twice told that he would of been a good one. Once at a career event and another at a dinner party attended by some important people. They said that Tom has the potential to be a senior fire officer. It will never happen but Tom would make important changes "
Would you bring back the fireman’s pole Tom? I always wanted to slide down one of those. |
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"I don't drive but kind of in support of this. As often the car is so on the pavement, I have had to walk on the road to get past it. As no room between the car and wall/fence."
i know what you mean.as i have had to do same when cars are on pavement.
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By *CBoyTV/TS 51 weeks ago
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Problem is that there must be thousands of streets that were built in UK before cars were invented and designed with expectations of use by pedestrians and horse traffic and so too narrow for cars to park on the road without blocking it. Now with car ownership being so high its a big dilemma. |
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"Problem is that there must be thousands of streets that were built in UK before cars were invented and designed with expectations of use by pedestrians and horse traffic and so too narrow for cars to park on the road without blocking it. Now with car ownership being so high its a big dilemma. "
If you don't have off road parking you shouldn't be allowed to have a car. No cars should be parked on the road or pavement at all. |
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My father was a fireman in Scotland and drove the fire engines. One day on the way to a fire his path was blocked by a badly parked Jaguar, he pushed past it taking the car wing off in the process! The driver called the police who then arrested the car driver for causing an obstruction. My dad never heard anything more about it. |
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"Problem is that there must be thousands of streets that were built in UK before cars were invented and designed with expectations of use by pedestrians and horse traffic and so too narrow for cars to park on the road without blocking it. Now with car ownership being so high its a big dilemma. "
It's the population which is the problem.
Cars tend to be used by people. |
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"Tom is not a firefighter but was twice told that he would of been a good one. Once at a career event and another at a dinner party attended by some important people. They said that Tom has the potential to be a senior fire officer. It will never happen but Tom would make important changes
Would you bring back the fireman’s pole Tom? I always wanted to slide down one of those."
Tom loves those poles.Fo they still have them in new fire stations or has health and safety banned them ? |
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"Problem is that there must be thousands of streets that were built in UK before cars were invented and designed with expectations of use by pedestrians and horse traffic and so too narrow for cars to park on the road without blocking it. Now with car ownership being so high its a big dilemma.
If you don't have off road parking you shouldn't be allowed to have a car. No cars should be parked on the road or pavement at all."
that can't be a serious comment surely... I have a huge drive but my car lives on the road outside my house 99% of the time.. as easier to not get blocked in |
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"Problem is that there must be thousands of streets that were built in UK before cars were invented and designed with expectations of use by pedestrians and horse traffic and so too narrow for cars to park on the road without blocking it. Now with car ownership being so high its a big dilemma.
If you don't have off road parking you shouldn't be allowed to have a car. No cars should be parked on the road or pavement at all. that can't be a serious comment surely... I have a huge drive but my car lives on the road outside my house 99% of the time.. as easier to not get blocked in"
Of course it is serious.
Every house in our street has a driveway for at least 2 cars but so many people insist on parking on the road it is difficult to get past.
They think it is acceptable to have more vehicles than they can park, or park one on the road so they don't have to move it to get the other out. People living on the main road park in our street instead of on their drive so they don't have to get out into traffic. Random people also park here and continue their journey in one car.
Etc.
Why choose to park on the street not on the drive? If you tell your insurance company then the premium is higher. Also much more chance of the car being damaged.
If someone blocks your drive, report them and get the car towed away for causing an obstruction. |
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"Problem is that there must be thousands of streets that were built in UK before cars were invented and designed with expectations of use by pedestrians and horse traffic and so too narrow for cars to park on the road without blocking it. Now with car ownership being so high its a big dilemma.
If you don't have off road parking you shouldn't be allowed to have a car. No cars should be parked on the road or pavement at all. that can't be a serious comment surely... I have a huge drive but my car lives on the road outside my house 99% of the time.. as easier to not get blocked in
Of course it is serious.
Every house in our street has a driveway for at least 2 cars but so many people insist on parking on the road it is difficult to get past.
They think it is acceptable to have more vehicles than they can park, or park one on the road so they don't have to move it to get the other out. People living on the main road park in our street instead of on their drive so they don't have to get out into traffic. Random people also park here and continue their journey in one car.
Etc.
Why choose to park on the street not on the drive? If you tell your insurance company then the premium is higher. Also much more chance of the car being damaged.
If someone blocks your drive, report them and get the car towed away for causing an obstruction."
I haven't got time to wait and to be fair the front of the house is easier. I guess I'm lucky where I live as even with cars parked both sides you can get cars through.
But i Park on the road most places to be fair. At least where I live now I could park all the cars in the drive.. I juat choose to leave the daily drive on the street for a multitude or reasons. 1) would have to let my daughter out first ... take her into the house.. then park the car on the drive and squeeze out the door. Repeat the same for getting in.
2. As I said about getting blocked in..and reporting does nothing.
3. It doesn't block the road or pavement and I can
I am never an arse with my parking as aware of how hard it is getting past things with a wheelchair... ( blue badge holder nearly always in the car) |
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"Problem is that there must be thousands of streets that were built in UK before cars were invented and designed with expectations of use by pedestrians and horse traffic and so too narrow for cars to park on the road without blocking it. Now with car ownership being so high its a big dilemma.
If you don't have off road parking you shouldn't be allowed to have a car. No cars should be parked on the road or pavement at all."
Why aren't all the roads double yellow then? |
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"Problem is that there must be thousands of streets that were built in UK before cars were invented and designed with expectations of use by pedestrians and horse traffic and so too narrow for cars to park on the road without blocking it. Now with car ownership being so high its a big dilemma.
If you don't have off road parking you shouldn't be allowed to have a car. No cars should be parked on the road or pavement at all.
Why aren't all the roads double yellow then?"
exactly. I used to live in an area that was all old mining houses... there is only on road parking. To suggest no one in that area should have a car is ridiculous |
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If someone blocks your drive, report them and get the car towed away for causing an obstruction.
They might want the obstruction dealt with on the same day...!"
My local plod don't turn out for a burglary so not much chance if a car blocks your drive. |
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If someone blocks your drive, report them and get the car towed away for causing an obstruction.
They might want the obstruction dealt with on the same day...!"
they also wont tow a car or come out for an obstruction |
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"Problem is that there must be thousands of streets that were built in UK before cars were invented and designed with expectations of use by pedestrians and horse traffic and so too narrow for cars to park on the road without blocking it. Now with car ownership being so high its a big dilemma.
If you don't have off road parking you shouldn't be allowed to have a car. No cars should be parked on the road or pavement at all.
Why aren't all the roads double yellow then?"
We live close to the station so all the roads on our estate have yellow lines to stop the London commuters parking here. They still do but the council does nothing about it! We also get blocked with parents doing the school run every day as there are two schools just up the road. They're worse than the commuters. Mostly mum dumping the car and walking the sprogs the last few hundred yards in case their little darlings legs can't manage it !
Rant over, off to let someone's tyres down |
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Thanks for the heads up on
that.
The next time I take a pavement home and need to find somewhere to park the pavement, I'll be sure to remember this advice.
ps I once went to a car boot sale and came home with the boot of an Austin Allegro.....  |
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"Rant over, off to let someone's tyres down "
Be careful, I was once advised that doing this could be classed as manslaughter at the best.
Loctite in any keyhole is more fun, as is loctite dribbled around the fuel filler cap. |
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"Reports that parking on the pavements will cost Scottish drivers a £100 fine.
If the building developers made the roads wider instead of cramming as many houses per hectare in as possible then we would not have the problem ?? good."
Once again, we only build what the local authorities will allow. Very recently I had my architect draw up plans for four executive homes on a small brown field site, then I had my planning consultant, who is himself an ex town planner, put forward the planning application, only to be told that we should withdraw the application because, it would be declined on the basis of not meeting the local authority density requirements as the site was capable of taking twelve houses which in turn would enable the local authority to insist on up to 40% affordable housing. It's not us that's try to squeeze a quart into a pint pot, its what the local authorities are insisting on. |
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"Reports that parking on the pavements will cost Scottish drivers a £100 fine.
If the building developers made the roads wider instead of cramming as many houses per hectare in as possible then we would not have the problem ?? good.
Once again, we only build what the local authorities will allow. Very recently I had my architect draw up plans for four executive homes on a small brown field site, then I had my planning consultant, who is himself an ex town planner, put forward the planning application, only to be told that we should withdraw the application because, it would be declined on the basis of not meeting the local authority density requirements as the site was capable of taking twelve houses which in turn would enable the local authority to insist on up to 40% affordable housing. It's not us that's try to squeeze a quart into a pint pot, its what the local authorities are insisting on."
It's widely acknowledged that the planning system is just not fit for purpose any more. It needs to be abandoned and rebuild from scratch. Preferably without constant meddling from government which has put it in the mess its currently in!
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By *i1971Man 51 weeks ago
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Should be all over the UK, some absolute bell-ends parking near me, to the point they'll see cars legitimately parked up and park immediately opposite. Zero chance of a large car getting through sometimes let alone emergency services (without doing damage)
People with prams or wheel chairs also really disadvantaged with some stretches of pavement so restricted they can't get through, having to walk out into the road.
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"Should be all over the UK, some absolute bell-ends parking near me, to the point they'll see cars legitimately parked up and park immediately opposite. Zero chance of a large car getting through sometimes let alone emergency services (without doing damage)
People with prams or wheel chairs also really disadvantaged with some stretches of pavement so restricted they can't get through, having to walk out into the road.
Rant over "
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People with prams or wheel chairs also really disadvantaged with some stretches of pavement so restricted they can't get through, having to walk out into the road.
Rant over "
I will be intrigued to find out how prams and wheelchairs cope with the telephone poles in my road which are the same distance in from the kerb as a car would be when parked (with the collusion of the council) partly on the pavement! |
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