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Kind of know who the majority will choose.
Probably even Bruce Dickinson would disagree with it.
I like more Iron Maiden songs, but Helloween (M.Kiske era) was better musically in my opinion.
There were rumors about Kiske will be the new singer when Dickinson left, but they were false according to Kiske. |
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Maidens first few albums. Lost a bit of interest after Live After Death. Helloweens singer has a better voice than Dickenson after Number of the Beast. I think that tour took a bit out of Dickensons voice. |
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"Maidens first few albums. Lost a bit of interest after Live After Death. Helloweens singer has a better voice than Dickenson after Number of the Beast. I think that tour took a bit out of Dickensons voice."
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He was always struggling with high notes, but it was a good fit to most Maiden songs.
Kiske was 19 when they recorded the Keepers album.
He's now better than ever at 55.
Best metal singer ever.
Even better than my favourite Tobias Sammet.
Crystal clear really low and really high range.
Makes me laugh when I see articles on the internet about Axl Rose has the biggest range.
He has the biggest rage probably.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Iron Maiden are still huge although sometimes I feel they go on a bit too much
I used to have Live After Death on “video” but felt that after that they, for me, weren’t so good
Paul Di’Anno had a great voice, I think Dickinson had great range |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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Maiden are the first band I got into and I've only listened to one Halloween album (Pink Bubbles) so I've gotta say Maiden.
Thanks to this thread though I now have Helloweens greatest hits playing 
Iced Earth are ok too, although a bit formulaic |
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"Maiden are the first band I got into and I've only listened to one Halloween album (Pink Bubbles) so I've gotta say Maiden.
Thanks to this thread though I now have Helloweens greatest hits playing
Iced Earth are ok too, although a bit formulaic "
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"Also, now would be a good time to mention The Iron Maidens- the worlds number one female Iron Maiden tribute act"
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It was going to be more of a Helloween tribute thread rather than Iron Maiden.
I knew most people would say Iron Maiden straight away, but I was expecting more than 1 person checking out Helloween.
Obviously Iron Maiden is British and more famous than Helloween.
Iron Maiden would be different without Helloween.
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"Also, now would be a good time to mention The Iron Maidens- the worlds number one female Iron Maiden tribute act
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It was going to be more of a Helloween tribute thread rather than Iron Maiden.
I knew most people would say Iron Maiden straight away, but I was expecting more than 1 person checking out Helloween.
Obviously Iron Maiden is British and more famous than Helloween.
Iron Maiden would be different without Helloween.
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Well, Maiden started out as a punk(ish) band! |
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"Also, now would be a good time to mention The Iron Maidens- the worlds number one female Iron Maiden tribute act
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It was going to be more of a Helloween tribute thread rather than Iron Maiden.
I knew most people would say Iron Maiden straight away, but I was expecting more than 1 person checking out Helloween.
Obviously Iron Maiden is British and more famous than Helloween.
Iron Maiden would be different without Helloween.
Well, Maiden started out as a punk(ish) band!"
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Maiden was part of the NWOBHM era.
Most of those bands played rock/hard rock that time.
Interesting fact is, that 70's Scorpions is in the NWOBHM genre/category.
Anyway, Helloween sounded more Maiden before Maiden did.
Do not misunderstand me please, I love Maiden. |
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"I've never liked iron maiden..apart from the first album..I like far more by Helloween..."
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Which one?
I preferred them with M.Kiske, but I liked K.Hasen as a singer too.
A.Deris not that much.
The new Helloween with all 3 singers is quite good, even with A.Deris in it. |
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Iron Maiden up to Seventh Son great, after that is all so so, Helloween, Walls of Jericho and Keeper of the 7 Keys are the essentials, after that there is some good and some ok, When Kai Hansen formed Gamma Ray Helloween lost a lot. Grab a listen to Powerplant and No World Order |
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There is also the issue that the two band play different genres of metal.
Maiden move between hard rock, heavy rock and heavy metal, with an occasional foray into the power metal genre, whereas Helloween are all power metal.
Maiden got airplay so people heard their music, in the 80s there was no way Helloween were going to get airplay on Uk mainstream radio |
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"Iron Maiden up to Seventh Son great, after that is all so so, Helloween, Walls of Jericho and Keeper of the 7 Keys are the essentials, after that there is some good and some ok, When Kai Hansen formed Gamma Ray Helloween lost a lot. Grab a listen to Powerplant and No World Order "
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I do listen to Gamma Ray, but I prefered Kai in Helloween.
Funnily he could manage to be lead singer and lead guitarist in Gamma Ray.
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"There is also the issue that the two band play different genres of metal.
Maiden move between hard rock, heavy rock and heavy metal, with an occasional foray into the power metal genre, whereas Helloween are all power metal.
Maiden got airplay so people heard their music, in the 80s there was no way Helloween were going to get airplay on Uk mainstream radio"
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Helloween songs aren't all power metal either, but yes you have a point there.
Helloween had only "I want out" played on MTV.
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"I've never liked iron maiden..apart from the first album..I like far more by Helloween...
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Which one?
I preferred them with M.Kiske, but I liked K.Hasen as a singer too.
A.Deris not that much.
The new Helloween with all 3 singers is quite good, even with A.Deris in it."
I'm talking early Halloween...up to keeper of the 7 keys..I have a compilation treasure chest and best of the noise years..to tell the truth I find some of the later stuff horrendous..far too nice.. I'm more into heavier stuff on the whole.. |
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Maiden edge it on sheer amount of great songs.
Helloween are a phenomenal band. Live, both bands ate brilliant. Maiden edge it on staging.
Musicianship. Helloween possibly edge it. Keeper part two is my fave by Helloween.
But.
Power*ave
Piece Of Time
Number Of The Beast
Killers
Iron Maiden
Are still amongst my top 100 albums of all time.
Helloween as brilliant as they are are not even close to my top 100.
So for me. MAIDEN all day long.
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"Lost respect for maiden when they shafted blaze Bailey.. who I thought did a good job filling Bruce's shoes!!"
Apart from the fact that Blaze shafted his so called "best mates" in Wolfesbane. Terrible singer and in my opinion from personal interactions. A bit of a twat. Dickinson, however, along with the other Maiden boys. Lovely chaps, and really good at pool |
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"Lost respect for maiden when they shafted blaze Bailey.. who I thought did a good job filling Bruce's shoes!!
Apart from the fact that Blaze shafted his so called "best mates" in Wolfesbane. Terrible singer and in my opinion from personal interactions. A bit of a twat. Dickinson, however, along with the other Maiden boys. Lovely chaps, and really good at pool "
So much so they’re touring again? There’s really not that much bad blood there and the others knew he had to do it. If you were a true friend, you too, wouldnt let your mates not take up that opportunity. Agree though. Not the greatest of singers. R |
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"Lost respect for maiden when they shafted blaze Bailey.. who I thought did a good job filling Bruce's shoes!!
Apart from the fact that Blaze shafted his so called "best mates" in Wolfesbane. Terrible singer and in my opinion from personal interactions. A bit of a twat. Dickinson, however, along with the other Maiden boys. Lovely chaps, and really good at pool
So much so they’re touring again? There’s really not that much bad blood there and the others knew he had to do it. If you were a true friend, you too, wouldnt let your mates not take up that opportunity. Agree though. Not the greatest of singers. R"
Despite all the bad blood over their careers bands across the board get back together to tour. SABBATH a prime example. The fact remains though that Blaze on more than one occasion categorically denied he was heading for Maiden, insisting that he would never split Wolfesbane up as they were his "best mates and the band was his life"...
The whole episode left a bad taste in the mouth, and a dark dark period in Maidens career in my opinion (I'm sure many loved Blaze era Maiden.. not me)
Never much a fan of Wolfesbane, certainly not a fan of Blaze. And that's more to do with personal experience. And I will never pay for Blaze/Maiden output. |
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I thinks its fair to say Iron Maiden influenced Helloween.
80's Iron Maiden was stronger, early 90's (before Kiske left) was Helloween.
Maiden have gone all Prog-Rock now, not heard much new Helloween so can't comment now.
Bruce Dickinson's solo stuff has been much better than the same era Maiden equivalent. |
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"Love both.
Keeper 1 & 2 albums are just amazing and Michael Kiske kicks Bruce's arsenal with vocals.
Maiden better band though...."
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Kiske kicks most metal singers arse.
He's not even in my top 3 favourite singers list, but he was and he is still probably the best.
He made some bad choices after leaving Helloween.
Avantasia put him to shine again.
Now Helloween again, but none of them really commercial bands.
Iron Maiden probably has the most radio friendly metal songs compared to others.
I prefer the ones too heavy for commercial radio play. |
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"I thinks its fair to say Iron Maiden influenced Helloween.
80's Iron Maiden was stronger, early 90's (before Kiske left) was Helloween.
Maiden have gone all Prog-Rock now, not heard much new Helloween so can't comment now.
Bruce Dickinson's solo stuff has been much better than the same era Maiden equivalent. "
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I think it was the other way, but...
They were definitely some kind of rivals in the 80's.
Obviously Iron Maiden enjoyed more commercial success.
I think at some point they were in the same record label, but Helloween was held back by a previous record label contract. |
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"I thinks its fair to say Iron Maiden influenced Helloween.
80's Iron Maiden was stronger, early 90's (before Kiske left) was Helloween.
Maiden have gone all Prog-Rock now, not heard much new Helloween so can't comment now.
Bruce Dickinson's solo stuff has been much better than the same era Maiden equivalent.
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I think it was the other way, but...
They were definitely some kind of rivals in the 80's.
Obviously Iron Maiden enjoyed more commercial success.
I think at some point they were in the same record label, but Helloween was held back by a previous record label contract. "
Same label and management, Maiden were the earlier band and pretty sure were listed as one of Helloween's influences.
The first Helloween slums were almost thrash metal before Kiske joined. |
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"I thinks its fair to say Iron Maiden influenced Helloween.
80's Iron Maiden was stronger, early 90's (before Kiske left) was Helloween.
Maiden have gone all Prog-Rock now, not heard much new Helloween so can't comment now.
Bruce Dickinson's solo stuff has been much better than the same era Maiden equivalent.
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I think it was the other way, but...
They were definitely some kind of rivals in the 80's.
Obviously Iron Maiden enjoyed more commercial success.
I think at some point they were in the same record label, but Helloween was held back by a previous record label contract.
Same label and management, Maiden were the earlier band and pretty sure were listed as one of Helloween's influences.
The first Helloween slums were almost thrash metal before Kiske joined."
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Kai Hansen Helloween was power metalISH, but quite heavy with a lot of tempo change.
Definitely not thrash metal, just listen to it.
Maiden had a different style first, even when Bruce joined.
I will check it out now when they started to sound similar. |
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"I thinks its fair to say Iron Maiden influenced Helloween.
80's Iron Maiden was stronger, early 90's (before Kiske left) was Helloween.
Maiden have gone all Prog-Rock now, not heard much new Helloween so can't comment now.
Bruce Dickinson's solo stuff has been much better than the same era Maiden equivalent.
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I think it was the other way, but...
They were definitely some kind of rivals in the 80's.
Obviously Iron Maiden enjoyed more commercial success.
I think at some point they were in the same record label, but Helloween was held back by a previous record label contract.
Same label and management, Maiden were the earlier band and pretty sure were listed as one of Helloween's influences.
The first Helloween slums were almost thrash metal before Kiske joined."
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" Iron Maiden are among the most important and influential metal bands. Kai said they were an influence. Kiske named Bruce as an influence. Markus named them and Steve Harris as an influence. Uli named Nicko as an influence. "
You were right.
Sorry!
https://www.givememetal.com/powermetaltrees/helloween-family-tree |
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By *luefire2Couple
over a year ago
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"Lost respect for maiden when they shafted blaze Bailey.. who I thought did a good job filling Bruce's shoes!!
Apart from the fact that Blaze shafted his so called "best mates" in Wolfesbane. Terrible singer and in my opinion from personal interactions. A bit of a twat. Dickinson, however, along with the other Maiden boys. Lovely chaps, and really good at pool "
Blaze is a nice guy, dealt with him on many occasions in the early 90s, he was awesome in Wolfsbane back then....sadly Maiden broke him |
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