FabSwingers.com > Forums > The Lounge > Children working for deliveroo
Children working for deliveroo
Jump to: Newest in thread
 |
By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
My niece, her boyfriend and a group of kids used to do this they were all really into the cycling & it was a bit of a subculture thing, not really about about the money but the distances and times |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *lan157Man
over a year ago
a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex |
Not read the article but I had a paper round at 13 and pulled golf trolleys on some Saturdays for tips . Gave me a lesson in the value of money and how to earn and save . |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will. "
Although it does seem as though the youth of today seen to take a few years longer to get their heads around working, I'm not sure I agree with your dystopian view of kids and their future.
Cal |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
I used to work 2 evenings a week doing pot wash at a local university from the age of 13.
Instilled a work ethic that has lasted a life time.
I think kids getting out on bikes, getting exercise and making a few quid is an excellent thing |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
Lincolnshire |
Before school I used to do two paper rounds aged, 13 I think.
After school I used to make shove ha'penny boards and sell them at Christmas.
Saturdays I used to wash cars for half a dozen neighbours.
I'm sure many of us buy things made by children from other countries.
K |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will. "
Blimey, really? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Difficult one! Needs looking into ! But as many have said alot of us had jobs that age! I used cycle 4 miles and back along country lanes washing up in a pub Saturday eves! But then again roads were far less busy 50 odd years ago! Tragic accident for the lad ! X |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will. "
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Its horrible that youngsters have died doing this. It seems that the practice of renting out deliveroo accounts is partially responsible for them working. The youngster illegally riding a motorbike, I'm not so sure about. Didn't their parents question what they were doing and how they were coming by so much money? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I don't like the concept of Deliveroo and other similar delivery services. It doesn't surprise that children are involved in some deliveries. It is an industry that needs further regulation to avoid exploitation of its workers
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Its horrible that youngsters have died doing this. It seems that the practice of renting out deliveroo accounts is partially responsible for them working. The youngster illegally riding a motorbike, I'm not so sure about. Didn't their parents question what they were doing and how they were coming by so much money?"
Some don't strangely across many parts of society, kids riding souped up e bikes is just 'progress' in the area of cos it's fun to do..
When they kill an elderly person, a young child or themselves tear arsing about it might get addressed by those in power..
A bit like the e cigs mess.. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ermite12ukMan
over a year ago
Solihull and Brentwood |
My parents knew that I worked on a milk round way back then. If they thought for one minute it was illegal. Grounded. Simple as.
The same here surely? If the parents know it's illegal by not paying any attention to the child and doing their own research. Then whatever happens to their offsprung is purely down to them? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
"
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing. "
Ditto on the humble beginnings and working as a child and success although that's a very subjective term..
Why are you embarrassed that 'lots' in your opinion will never travel?
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing. "
I disagree with your opinion.
There is some youth unemployment in this area but by far the majority are either in work, education or far more often both. The supermarkets are staffed by youngsters often students, especially the late shifts that nobody else wants to work, I see apprentices in shops, offices, garages etc and loads of polite, ordinary sized young people going about their business. I have high hopes for the upcoming generation |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *ullyMan
over a year ago
Near Clacton |
Age 8 I was driving round the orchards collecting the fruit for the farm shop did this for 4 years then got a Saturday job at a local butchers and went to market with him at a quarter past silly o'clock in the morning, did that for 3 years then worked 3 nights a week Saturdays and Sundays at a little firm packing cat litter and straw, left school at 15 1/2 and started an apprenticeship but kept the factory job going as the money was way more than the apprenticeship. Saved like crazy had a huge black china pig stuffed with cash, then my "mother" stole the lot of it!! I left home!! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
Having read the article, teenagers are submitting Deliveroo accounts from adults for a fee. The story in question is very sad.
Deliveroo should definitely tighten up their policies but the thread title is incorrect, and so is the statement |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing. "
Wow!! As a fairly successful guy as well from a humble working class background who worked as a child/teen I can assure you most of us who came this route would not want to see anything like that!! It sounds more like you grew up incredibly privileged. We have seen first hand the hardship caused by removal of even just a few quid from benefits, we have seen families with young children unable to feed and water them while working full time, so if you truly came from a humble back ground you would not think like that, ever. I would also point to the fact that university intake has never been higher, the 45+ age range are the biggest benefit claimants in this country and those 45-75 are the ones causing the obesity epidemic. It would appear to me you fit in to all those categories so not sure why your hating on the younger ones for it. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
We encourage our kids to work, one does baby sitting, one is a grifter and washes cars, tidys gardens and walks dogs for cash and the last has an online shop. The eldest is 13.
We both had jobs as kids so although we do spoil them, they also know how hard it is to earn every pound. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing. "
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking "
Whilst I agree with some of what you say we didn't pull the ladder up behind us, if it was pulled up it was done so by the powers that be not the man on the Clapham omnibus just trying to live his life in accordance with the times |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking
Whilst I agree with some of what you say we didn't pull the ladder up behind us, if it was pulled up it was done so by the powers that be not the man on the Clapham omnibus just trying to live his life in accordance with the times "
I think it’s a bit of both. People voted for things that pulled the ladder up behind them
They also benefitted from a huge explosion is house prices. Partly not their fault, partly voting for people/ policies that didn’t want to fix housing shortages, because it kept prices up |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *an hjCouple
over a year ago
Stowmarket |
"Not read the article but I had a paper round at 13 and pulled golf trolleys on some Saturdays for tips . Gave me a lesson in the value of money and how to earn and save . "
I agree, M, had a butchers round, taught me if you want something, work for it and save. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking "
You don’t sound rude you sound like you don’t know your facts. When I left school at 15 interest rates were 9% versus today @ 5.25% The unemployment was close to 12% versus the 4% today. All I see are jobs and opportunities everywhere yet I observe many young people doing f()c7 all. We do have a generation of people unwilling and seemingly unable to achieve. Saying I was lucky is nonsense looking back, I’m still hungry to outperform everyone in my company work and generally do. I was a rum lad when younger but then made a decision to turn my life around and did. And continue to do so, working throughout my school life and every weekend as a teenager did me no harm  |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
Children.... They are 16/17!
When I was a teenager I worked in a clothes shop after scoring the job from work experience at 14. I also worked in my mum and dad's pub on Saturday mornings restocking the shelves and bottling up from 8 years of age! It was installed in me to work! My eldest had a job from 16 in a restaurant clearing tables too and is now at uni and holding down a part time job paying well which means he's in a good financial position to go on holidays abroad while studying- how many students manage that?!
I'm all for anyone taking a job if they are able and are not being taken advantage of and are paid correctly. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I think all teenagers should be allowed to do part time jobs to keep them occupied and learn new skills. My pocket money stopped at aged 12 and i worked doing various jobs for the next 5yrs.Great way to learn new life skills and budget money. If I wanted clothes I saved and bought my own. My brother and sister did the same. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking
You don’t sound rude you sound like you don’t know your facts. When I left school at 15 interest rates were 9% versus today @ 5.25% The unemployment was close to 12% versus the 4% today. All I see are jobs and opportunities everywhere yet I observe many young people doing f()c7 all. We do have a generation of people unwilling and seemingly unable to achieve. Saying I was lucky is nonsense looking back, I’m still hungry to outperform everyone in my company work and generally do. I was a rum lad when younger but then made a decision to turn my life around and did. And continue to do so, working throughout my school life and every weekend as a teenager did me no harm "
You realise a 9% interest rate when the house is 2-3x your salary is more affordable 4% @ 10-15x your salary right?
Maybe you should have stayed on at school and finished maths |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I think all teenagers should be allowed to do part time jobs to keep them occupied and learn new skills. My pocket money stopped at aged 12 and i worked doing various jobs for the next 5yrs.Great way to learn new life skills and budget money. If I wanted clothes I saved and bought my own. My brother and sister did the same."
Same here. I couldn’t wait to be old enough for a paper round. Then I got a Saturday job. I’ve always worked and I think I’ve passed this attitude to my kids. You want something you work for it. Don’t expect anything handed to you on a plate. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking
You don’t sound rude you sound like you don’t know your facts. When I left school at 15 interest rates were 9% versus today @ 5.25% The unemployment was close to 12% versus the 4% today. All I see are jobs and opportunities everywhere yet I observe many young people doing f()c7 all. We do have a generation of people unwilling and seemingly unable to achieve. Saying I was lucky is nonsense looking back, I’m still hungry to outperform everyone in my company work and generally do. I was a rum lad when younger but then made a decision to turn my life around and did. And continue to do so, working throughout my school life and every weekend as a teenager did me no harm "
You got a mortgage at age 15? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking
You don’t sound rude you sound like you don’t know your facts. When I left school at 15 interest rates were 9% versus today @ 5.25% The unemployment was close to 12% versus the 4% today. All I see are jobs and opportunities everywhere yet I observe many young people doing f()c7 all. We do have a generation of people unwilling and seemingly unable to achieve. Saying I was lucky is nonsense looking back, I’m still hungry to outperform everyone in my company work and generally do. I was a rum lad when younger but then made a decision to turn my life around and did. And continue to do so, working throughout my school life and every weekend as a teenager did me no harm "
The thing I take from this is at some point you realised you had to change whatever the reason was..
And yet your not accepting that those you've grossly condemned might also do so at some point ..
People who do make life changes as you did are often supported in doing so, perhaps you may have been but your writing off others when you were most likely also written off by some..
That's a strange outlook..
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Not read the article but I had a paper round at 13 and pulled golf trolleys on some Saturdays for tips . Gave me a lesson in the value of money and how to earn and save . "
The article is about a kid who was working as a delivery driver and died at the age of 17, having been doing deliveries for 2 years.
Deliveroo (and others) get their delivery drivers to make sure they are over 18, have no convictions etc, but there is a process whereby approved drivers can then rent their licenses on to others and this is how kids are ending up doing deliveries.
Deliveroo feel they are protected because they did the initial screening.
The mother of the kid involved said deliveroo haven’t even contacted her, but also pointed out why would they, they didn’t even know he existed. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
The point here isn't about under 18s working in general, but a loophole that allows under 18s to "work" a job that is against the regulations of that particular company |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
The article isn’t about kids having part time jobs, which most of us see as a positive thing.
It’s about kids being out on the roads, doing deliveries, and centres on a 17 year old who died on a borrowed motorbike, having been doing deliveries since he was 15. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Having read the article, teenagers are submitting Deliveroo accounts from adults for a fee. The story in question is very sad.
Deliveroo should definitely tighten up their policies but the thread title is incorrect, and so is the statement "
Agreed. The kids are not working for deliveroo.
But deliveroo seem to have set up a very weak process which allows licenses to be “substituted”, so must take some accountability for the fact that their controls are so weak.
If they abolished their “substitute” scheme the scope for abuse of the system would be reduced |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking
You don’t sound rude you sound like you don’t know your facts. When I left school at 15 interest rates were 9% versus today @ 5.25% The unemployment was close to 12% versus the 4% today. All I see are jobs and opportunities everywhere yet I observe many young people doing f()c7 all. We do have a generation of people unwilling and seemingly unable to achieve. Saying I was lucky is nonsense looking back, I’m still hungry to outperform everyone in my company work and generally do. I was a rum lad when younger but then made a decision to turn my life around and did. And continue to do so, working throughout my school life and every weekend as a teenager did me no harm "
Your generalisation about an entire generation of people who don’t want to work doesn’t stand up to any level of scrutiny.
Every bar, restaurant, shop and supermarket in my town has teenagers and people in early 20’s working in them. And a large pop-up restaurant that has run for the past 2 summers is run by a 20 year old.
These kids are part of the entire generation that don’t want to work, are they?
And the kids that go on to higher education, thru don’t want to work either?
Do you have any stats (youth unemployment trends for example) to back up your generalisation? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will. "
I hear you. Its a crazy world, kids literally bred into poverty and by parents who claim because that's what they were born into..
With crazy zero hour contracts and some quite hard work only very poorly paid the economy is structured to have to accept top ups etc, then there are those who are genuinely forced to claim due to circumstances but I hear you as to the others .. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
Lincolnshire |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking
You don’t sound rude you sound like you don’t know your facts. When I left school at 15 interest rates were 9% versus today @ 5.25% The unemployment was close to 12% versus the 4% today. All I see are jobs and opportunities everywhere yet I observe many young people doing f()c7 all. We do have a generation of people unwilling and seemingly unable to achieve. Saying I was lucky is nonsense looking back, I’m still hungry to outperform everyone in my company work and generally do. I was a rum lad when younger but then made a decision to turn my life around and did. And continue to do so, working throughout my school life and every weekend as a teenager did me no harm
You realise a 9% interest rate when the house is 2-3x your salary is more affordable 4% @ 10-15x your salary right?
Maybe you should have stayed on at school and finished maths "
You do realise that in some parts of the country you can buy a house for £30,000 - I think its you that can't do maths! |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
I had a paper round from about 13 years of age, mornings and evenings. The Sunday papers weighed a ton back then, though I suppose they still do. I was payed the princely sum of twelve and a tanner a week.
After I had finished my morning paper rounds on Saturday and Sunday, I used to go to The local golf club to caddy. I used to get paid 5 bob per 18 holes for that but on the Sunday my 5 bob didn't last very long as it payed for my horse riding lessons on the Sunday afternoon.
That was back in the early sixties, I grew up on a new council estate and my mum was a widow with two kids and was a dinner lady at the local secondary school.
I left school at 15, served a 6 year apprenticeship in the construction industry and continued to work until I finally retired at the age of 71. That was classed as the norm for most of my generation but I have to admit, I have seen a lot of changes in my time. Society has changed, attitudes have changed, the world has changed and the country itself has changed. Not all for the better. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
|
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking
You don’t sound rude you sound like you don’t know your facts. When I left school at 15 interest rates were 9% versus today @ 5.25% The unemployment was close to 12% versus the 4% today. All I see are jobs and opportunities everywhere yet I observe many young people doing f()c7 all. We do have a generation of people unwilling and seemingly unable to achieve. Saying I was lucky is nonsense looking back, I’m still hungry to outperform everyone in my company work and generally do. I was a rum lad when younger but then made a decision to turn my life around and did. And continue to do so, working throughout my school life and every weekend as a teenager did me no harm
You realise a 9% interest rate when the house is 2-3x your salary is more affordable 4% @ 10-15x your salary right?
Maybe you should have stayed on at school and finished maths
You do realise that in some parts of the country you can buy a house for £30,000 - I think its you that can't do maths!"
Please share a turnkey house within close proximity to amenities that's £30k. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking
You don’t sound rude you sound like you don’t know your facts. When I left school at 15 interest rates were 9% versus today @ 5.25% The unemployment was close to 12% versus the 4% today. All I see are jobs and opportunities everywhere yet I observe many young people doing f()c7 all. We do have a generation of people unwilling and seemingly unable to achieve. Saying I was lucky is nonsense looking back, I’m still hungry to outperform everyone in my company work and generally do. I was a rum lad when younger but then made a decision to turn my life around and did. And continue to do so, working throughout my school life and every weekend as a teenager did me no harm "
I'd be interested to know the area in which you're looking if all you see are jobs and opportunities everywhere but young people not taking advantage of it while a 4% unemployment rate exists. Are there a disproportionate number of youth unemployed where you're looking? |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking
You don’t sound rude you sound like you don’t know your facts. When I left school at 15 interest rates were 9% versus today @ 5.25% The unemployment was close to 12% versus the 4% today. All I see are jobs and opportunities everywhere yet I observe many young people doing f()c7 all. We do have a generation of people unwilling and seemingly unable to achieve. Saying I was lucky is nonsense looking back, I’m still hungry to outperform everyone in my company work and generally do. I was a rum lad when younger but then made a decision to turn my life around and did. And continue to do so, working throughout my school life and every weekend as a teenager did me no harm
You realise a 9% interest rate when the house is 2-3x your salary is more affordable 4% @ 10-15x your salary right?
Maybe you should have stayed on at school and finished maths
You do realise that in some parts of the country you can buy a house for £30,000 - I think its you that can't do maths!"
An actual liveable house, or a shell/shack? You can buy a tumbledown pile of bricks here for £50-60k. You wouldn't house a cow in them though.
Not everyone can just live in any old hovel either. We've recently maxed our finances to the limit because we now need a wheelchair accessible bungalow for my needs. Despite popular opinion, there are no handouts, no help, no assistance, for people stuck living in completely unsuitable accommodation after they acquire disability. Our mortgage has gone from £650-700 a month (it was variable) to £1500 a month. The square footage of the new house is smaller. The only reason for moving was to enable me to actually LIVE in the house, not exist stuffed in an upstairs bedroom. Moving house now means I have to keep working FT, irrespective of my health and really, I could do with finding an even better paying job. I am the main income earner and always have been. I'm also the one falling to bits but who cannot get wheelchair services to fund mobility equipment etc.
Cheap housing is often very poor housing and is not suitable for all needs. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Just looked at the BBC report, this child was 17 years old, that makes him old enough to drive himself to work as an apprentice, but not old enough to deliver a pizza."
if you read the article, you will also have read that he has been doing deliveries since he was 15 |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Just looked at the BBC report, this child was 17 years old, that makes him old enough to drive himself to work as an apprentice, but not old enough to deliver a pizza."
I didn't take the substance of the article to be the age but more the practise of illegally selling deliveroo licenses to underage. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
"Just looked at the BBC report, this child was 17 years old, that makes him old enough to drive himself to work as an apprentice, but not old enough to deliver a pizza.
I didn't take the substance of the article to be the age but more the practise of illegally selling deliveroo licenses to underage. "
Same here … and deliveroo distancing themselves from the fact that they have kids on the road.
|
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
|
By *AYENCouple
over a year ago
Lincolnshire |
"I wish all kids worked and grew up understanding how nice it is to have a few quid. Mostly I see third and fourth generations of people breeding and claiming with zero life ambitions. They have never worked and never will.
Is this your punt in case Sunak wants a new Minister for Empathy and Understanding?
Potentially yes, I’m a successful guy that comes from a very humble background in the north west. I always worked as a child and it served me well later in life and still does. I would cease all benefits for young people unless unwell or with disabilities and make them work. Large parts of the country are full of uneducated lazy young people, who seem destined never to work. Lots will never travel, obesity is an epidemic with this group, I find it rather embarrassing.
I think it’s worth pointing out your age.
Your from a time where a working class guy with a working class job could get a mortgage and 2 kids with the wife staying at home by leaving school early and starting work in a factory or something
That’s not the reality today and if kids want a chance at owning property or even living comfortably they need to stay in school and seriously apply them and learn
Working in childhood isn’t going to make that happen
Your experience doesn’t translate to world that’s changed so much since you were a kid.
Without sounding rude, your from the generation that had it the easiest then pulled the ladder up behind them. But as usual, your naive enough to think it was everything to do with how hard you worked, nothing to do with how lucky you were to born that time, and everyone else is clearly just slacking
You don’t sound rude you sound like you don’t know your facts. When I left school at 15 interest rates were 9% versus today @ 5.25% The unemployment was close to 12% versus the 4% today. All I see are jobs and opportunities everywhere yet I observe many young people doing f()c7 all. We do have a generation of people unwilling and seemingly unable to achieve. Saying I was lucky is nonsense looking back, I’m still hungry to outperform everyone in my company work and generally do. I was a rum lad when younger but then made a decision to turn my life around and did. And continue to do so, working throughout my school life and every weekend as a teenager did me no harm
You realise a 9% interest rate when the house is 2-3x your salary is more affordable 4% @ 10-15x your salary right?
Maybe you should have stayed on at school and finished maths
You do realise that in some parts of the country you can buy a house for £30,000 - I think its you that can't do maths!
Please share a turnkey house within close proximity to amenities that's £30k."
I didn't say it would be a turnkey property, but certainly livable and ready for a young person to do up and get themselves on the property ladder, just as I did when I was 20. It takes a bit of motivation, hard work and determination, but still as doable today as it's ever been. |
Reply privately, Reply in forum +quote
or View forums list | |
» Add a new message to this topic
