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"Are there really hoops? All I want is to feel respected and liked for being a human, and to have some things in common with potential play mates. And not to be objectified as some kind of animated fleshlight. The bar is really not so high IMO." OK so, I'd respect you and want to get to know you genuinely. Why if I messaged and came across like that would you choose to either respond or ignore my message | |||
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"We don't get a chance sometimes because of some of the abuse the females get because they turn a man down, some just can't take no for an answer, so its just easier to not reply for most, but we're not all the same. And the hoop thing is real, I wonder how many people have missed out on what they actually want because of a technicality lol. My opinion " Couldn't agree more | |||
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"We don't get a chance sometimes because of some of the abuse the females get because they turn a man down, some just can't take no for an answer, so its just easier to not reply for most, but we're not all the same. And the hoop thing is real, I wonder how many people have missed out on what they actually want because of a technicality lol. My opinion " Is your preference for women over men just a technicality that you could ostensibly overlook to avoid missing out? Genuine question. | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination?" nope they get a lot more messages than we do and so therefore have choice | |||
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"We don't get a chance sometimes because of some of the abuse the females get because they turn a man down, some just can't take no for an answer, so its just easier to not reply for most, but we're not all the same. And the hoop thing is real, I wonder how many people have missed out on what they actually want because of a technicality lol. My opinion Is your preference for women over men just a technicality that you could ostensibly overlook to avoid missing out? Genuine question." No I just think it makes it a lot harder, and I dont place all my time here, I like it here and I'm here for a reason, but I won't put all my eggs in one basket. And I appreciate you asking, that really made me think that it was my experience, but I don't think it is. | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination?" Women are so fussy. They all want dick right. Age range, sexuality, location, all to be ignored by men. Men just want a wet hole because their wife won't fuck them... and fill their profiles with useless legal warnings. | |||
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"Scrap all the hoops and should be called Blind Fab ......Right oh .. Normal humans here for the exact reason choice and preference and fantasy ......fab world ... All about RESPECT ..... " I want whatever medication you're on. | |||
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"Women don't have the same "any holes a goal" motto that many younger men do. I like a women with lots of preferences on her profile, it makes it easier for me to know if I have what she's looking for before even sending 1 message " I'd say it's more older men that have that view! | |||
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"Women don't have the same "any holes a goal" motto that many younger men do. I like a women with lots of preferences on her profile, it makes it easier for me to know if I have what she's looking for before even sending 1 message I'd say it's more older men that have that view! " Really? I'm only going by the friends I kept when I was younger, and how they've matured as they got older and aren't just out to shag anyone anymore. Totally believe you though | |||
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"Women don't have the same "any holes a goal" motto that many younger men do. I like a women with lots of preferences on her profile, it makes it easier for me to know if I have what she's looking for before even sending 1 message I'd say it's more older men that have that view! Really? I'm only going by the friends I kept when I was younger, and how they've matured as they got older and aren't just out to shag anyone anymore. Totally believe you though " Normal men maybe, men on here? Definitely not. | |||
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"Women don't have the same "any holes a goal" motto that many younger men do. I like a women with lots of preferences on her profile, it makes it easier for me to know if I have what she's looking for before even sending 1 message I'd say it's more older men that have that view! Really? I'm only going by the friends I kept when I was younger, and how they've matured as they got older and aren't just out to shag anyone anymore. Totally believe you though Normal men maybe, men on here? Definitely not. " I can believe that for sure | |||
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"Yes. Women want what they are attracted to. Men want sex. " This | |||
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"Yes. Women want what they are attracted to. Men want sex. This " ...yeah but not this at all though really, is it? There are no hoops, OP. If I see a profile that is overly critical, or negative, or... y'know, list-y, my first and last thought is 'why would I ever want to spend time with someone like that?' Maybe one day I'll be able to blindly fuck like all the real men I hear about in anecdotes on this forum. Hope not, though! | |||
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"Are they hoops? Or are they reasonable expectations set out by the individual to make THEIR fab experience better work for them? " Exactly this! Plus as others have said, I don’t just want to ‘fuck’ - easier and (often) better using toys! If I’m going to play with someone on here I like chemistry, fantasy, something different - an experience as such! | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination?" What kind of hoops? | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? What kind of hoops?" Fiery ones that lead into a vat of treacle | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? What kind of hoops? Fiery ones that lead into a vat of treacle " Mmmmm sticky lube | |||
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"Some people like to ignore the entitled women on here but it's true that it happens. Some women behave in a way they never would in the real world and enjoy having that power over men, making them jump through hoops and earning whatever amazing thing they think they got. Men allow this behaviour by putting us on a pedestal and doing anything to get the sex so it's partly their fault too. I'm not bashing all women but some of them really need an attitude and reality check." Omg #sisterhood | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination?" It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day " Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.." Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke " I'd say your profile pic tells another story | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story " So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart " I said it tells another story - presents a different picture than the one you're saying here. A profile cock pic = "any hole is a goal" to many people. It doesn't seem very astute if you're trying to present yourself another way. | |||
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"Women have always been more selective than men for good reason though - for 99.9% of human history (i.e. before contraception was invented) if she chooses to sleep with someone there's a reasonable chance she'll be lumbered with a child for the next 20 years. So women evolved to make damn well sure that person was 'right'. The fact that it's less relevant for the past hundred years can't overcome hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. For a guy the consequences of sleeping with a poor choice of partner are much lower so men have evolved to be way less selective. It's not just on fab though it's the same everywhere - in bars, dating sites etc. you've always got to stand out in some way and be better looking, funnier or have a decent amount in common. So I don't think there are any more 'hoops' here than any other place, they're just more clearly stated because on fab you can be totally open with your desires rather than beating (off) around the bush Hope that made sense!" Very well said! So refreshing to see a man on here who understands why women are "picky". | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart " Some people might think that people with profile genital pics are the same as dirty mac flashers. Zero care for consent. | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart I said it tells another story - presents a different picture than the one you're saying here. A profile cock pic = "any hole is a goal" to many people. It doesn't seem very astute if you're trying to present yourself another way. " It’s a site based on people looking for sexual adventures mainly. So a cock is pretty much very fitting isn’t it | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart I said it tells another story - presents a different picture than the one you're saying here. A profile cock pic = "any hole is a goal" to many people. It doesn't seem very astute if you're trying to present yourself another way. It’s a site based on people looking for sexual adventures mainly. So a cock is pretty much very fitting isn’t it " You do you. Personally I don't want to talk to cocks. Free choice. | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart I said it tells another story - presents a different picture than the one you're saying here. A profile cock pic = "any hole is a goal" to many people. It doesn't seem very astute if you're trying to present yourself another way. It’s a site based on people looking for sexual adventures mainly. So a cock is pretty much very fitting isn’t it You do you. Personally I don't want to talk to cocks. Free choice. " That’s fair enough. I still love you | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart Some people might think that people with profile genital pics are the same as dirty mac flashers. Zero care for consent. " If those pictures break people's consent, why aren't they reported? | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart Some people might think that people with profile genital pics are the same as dirty mac flashers. Zero care for consent. If those pictures break people's consent, why aren't they reported?" The site is full of pussy and dick pics | |||
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"Instead of commenting and helping OP by saying something like “yeah, show up to clubs and mingle, it’ll increase your chances of you getting to know people”. We got a bit of negativity instead and I got assassinated for sharing my opinion. Stay positive OP and everyone else " Assassinated? Your opinion is gently challenged and you call that assassination? | |||
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"So many hoops... like a well trained circus animal please! I'm happily demanding, I'm unapologetically here for me first and foremost, do I think anyone owes me their time.. absolutely not. If I'm too much like hard work.. you're not for me anyway. No loss. " Pretty much this | |||
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"We don't get a chance sometimes because of some of the abuse the females get because they turn a man down, some just can't take no for an answer, so its just easier to not reply for most, but we're not all the same. And the hoop thing is real, I wonder how many people have missed out on what they actually want because of a technicality lol. My opinion " Women are quite capable of judging what is offered and deciding if it's what they want. Just as men are. I doubt they feel they've missed out by making choices. | |||
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"Instead of commenting and helping OP by saying something like “yeah, show up to clubs and mingle, it’ll increase your chances of you getting to know people”. We got a bit of negativity instead and I got assassinated for sharing my opinion. Stay positive OP and everyone else Assassinated? Your opinion is gently challenged and you call that assassination? " Negative again. Don’t focus on me, guide the OP | |||
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"A lot of women probably start out with a simple profile but then over time have to amend it because of the actions of men. The experience of a single woman on here is vastly different to that of a single man they are literally hounded and sadly a lot of the interactions aren’t positive. I can’t blame them for getting dismayed and becoming more specific. " this about sums it up , nicely put | |||
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"We don't get a chance sometimes because of some of the abuse the females get because they turn a man down, some just can't take no for an answer, so its just easier to not reply for most, but we're not all the same. And the hoop thing is real, I wonder how many people have missed out on what they actually want because of a technicality lol. My opinion " Yeah the rejection rage is real and exhausting (and sometimes violent and terrifying). And not just here, everywhere we go where men are also. What's right for me won't miss me but I'm wondering what you guys are considering as hoops here? | |||
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"Yeah most guys on here are 99% up to shag anything that responds to their huge net thrown. And that mentality is what makes women raise their standards. And quite rightly so. Why do you see it as an obstacle to find a woman with similar interests, similar outlooks and similar likes. That and messaging an interesting message and chatting away isn’t an obstacle. It’s getting to know someone. Enjoy getting to know someone and see where it leads, " He gets it | |||
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"Are there really hoops? All I want is to feel respected and liked for being a human, and to have some things in common with potential play mates. And not to be objectified as some kind of animated fleshlight. The bar is really not so high IMO. OK so, I'd respect you and want to get to know you genuinely. Why if I messaged and came across like that would you choose to either respond or ignore my message " We look at a person’s profile before even opening the message, LOTS of men fall at that step because they can’t be bothered to make an effort to stand out. | |||
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"I've always found this counterintuitive. Yes, I understand the reasons why some women have such specific profiles. But personally, when I was looking to meet, I purposefully left my profile vague about what I was looking for...I certainly wasn't going to give anyone the tools to aid duplicitousness so they could pretend to be what I wanted in the hopes of getting their dick wet. " | |||
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"We don't get a chance sometimes because of some of the abuse the females get because they turn a man down, some just can't take no for an answer, so its just easier to not reply for most, but we're not all the same. And the hoop thing is real, I wonder how many people have missed out on what they actually want because of a technicality lol. My opinion Yeah the rejection rage is real and exhausting (and sometimes violent and terrifying). And not just here, everywhere we go where men are also. What's right for me won't miss me but I'm wondering what you guys are considering as hoops here?" "Must be a decent human being' | |||
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"If you could have any flavour of ice cream with whipped cream and sprinkles and cherries on top, why would you go and settle for a choc ice out the back of the freezer?" Hey no need to diss the choc ice! They are my favourite ice cream MrsAbz | |||
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"Instead of commenting and helping OP by saying something like “yeah, show up to clubs and mingle, it’ll increase your chances of you getting to know people”. We got a bit of negativity instead and I got assassinated for sharing my opinion. Stay positive OP and everyone else " success here isn't measured by the foumites its measured by the rest of the site just do you and don't pay too much mind to whats said here | |||
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"Instead of commenting and helping OP by saying something like “yeah, show up to clubs and mingle, it’ll increase your chances of you getting to know people”. We got a bit of negativity instead and I got assassinated for sharing my opinion. Stay positive OP and everyone else success here isn't measured by the foumites its measured by the rest of the site just do you and don't pay too much mind to whats said here " forumites | |||
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"Are there really hoops? All I want is to feel respected and liked for being a human, and to have some things in common with potential play mates. And not to be objectified as some kind of animated fleshlight. The bar is really not so high IMO." I so much agree with you hun I don’t think it’s the hard to be respectful too, | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart I said it tells another story - presents a different picture than the one you're saying here. A profile cock pic = "any hole is a goal" to many people. It doesn't seem very astute if you're trying to present yourself another way. It’s a site based on people looking for sexual adventures mainly. So a cock is pretty much very fitting isn’t it " For other men it is, not women. Here lies one difference. | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart I said it tells another story - presents a different picture than the one you're saying here. A profile cock pic = "any hole is a goal" to many people. It doesn't seem very astute if you're trying to present yourself another way. It’s a site based on people looking for sexual adventures mainly. So a cock is pretty much very fitting isn’t it For other men it is, not women. Here lies one difference." Loads of women show pussy on here and loads of men show cock. You speak for all ‘women’ or just yourself | |||
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"So many people seem to believe that life on fab is somehow different to life out there in the real world. People, men and women, are complex! The alchemy of attraction is neither specific nor ubiquitous. It changes, evolves, ebbs and flows, from one moment to the next, inside all of us. The attributes that ought to be standard for all parties, respect, kindness, curtesy, patience, maturity, empathy, will increase your changes of making a connection, but it guarantees you nothing. Treating somebody appropriately does not mean they will fuck you, just as being polite to people in the real world doesn’t mean you get to go home with them. All it does is raise your chances from absolute zero. Showing some basic decency towards other people shouldn’t be an effort, and if it is, you’re in the wrong place. Fab is just a platform for people with an open and healthy interest in sex to meet and connect. Being here doesn’t entitle anyone to anything x " Nailed it in one | |||
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"So many people seem to believe that life on fab is somehow different to life out there in the real world. People, men and women, are complex! The alchemy of attraction is neither specific nor ubiquitous. It changes, evolves, ebbs and flows, from one moment to the next, inside all of us. The attributes that ought to be standard for all parties, respect, kindness, curtesy, patience, maturity, empathy, will increase your changes of making a connection, but it guarantees you nothing. Treating somebody appropriately does not mean they will fuck you, just as being polite to people in the real world doesn’t mean you get to go home with them. All it does is raise your chances from absolute zero. Showing some basic decency towards other people shouldn’t be an effort, and if it is, you’re in the wrong place. Fab is just a platform for people with an open and healthy interest in sex to meet and connect. Being here doesn’t entitle anyone to anything x " | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. " Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me | |||
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"A lot of women probably start out with a simple profile but then over time have to amend it because of the actions of men. The experience of a single woman on here is vastly different to that of a single man they are literally hounded and sadly a lot of the interactions aren’t positive. I can’t blame them for getting dismayed and becoming more specific. " Exactly this. And I find a profile is an indication of effort generally… if a guy can’t be arsed to write a paragraph or two and take a couple of half decent pictures in an attempt to get laid… he’s probably not going to manage my needs | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me " Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz " Yes. A lot of the complaints seem to boil down to "women aren't good enough for me" Then don't say yes to things that aren't good enough? That's not hard. | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Yes, the more supply there are, one can be more specific too about it." Or...more men could have standards and stop criticising women for having some? I respect men with standards. Men with statuses like "anyone want their pussy licked?" - not so much. | |||
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"What seems to come through are a couple of things, 1) men have unrealistic expectations of both the website and the women on it, and 2) a lot of men don’t like having to work for what they seem to think should be theirs by right. This leads me to believe that there are a lot of men on here who either have little respect for women, or don’t have the first clue what women want. Mr DD" I don't believe this can be true. | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz Yes. A lot of the complaints seem to boil down to "women aren't good enough for me" Then don't say yes to things that aren't good enough? That's not hard." I do find it baffling really. Any person is free to say no to another... so what is the problem? Have your standards, don't go for anyone with "hoops" you do not wish to jump through, say no to anyone who doesn't meet your requirements. Easy MrsAbz | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? It’s because women don’t give it away so easy mate. Plus they don’t really know us sitting behind our phones, we know we’re decent blokes but they don’t. I guess going the clubs helps with that. Seems to me if you go there a few times and mingle, get to know people you’ll be fine. I can’t go there yet but maybe one day Women and men have different opinions on what 'decent' means.. Well I speak for myself then, I know I’m a decent bloke I'd say your profile pic tells another story So anyone that shows a cock isn’t a decent person, wow. Smart I said it tells another story - presents a different picture than the one you're saying here. A profile cock pic = "any hole is a goal" to many people. It doesn't seem very astute if you're trying to present yourself another way. It’s a site based on people looking for sexual adventures mainly. So a cock is pretty much very fitting isn’t it For other men it is, not women. Here lies one difference. Loads of women show pussy on here and loads of men show cock. You speak for all ‘women’ or just yourself " From experience. Men get more turned on by just photo's, I'm sure other men enjoy looking at cock. | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Yes, the more supply there are, one can be more specific too about it. Or...more men could have standards and stop criticising women for having some? I respect men with standards. Men with statuses like "anyone want their pussy licked?" - not so much. " What’s that’s got to do with what I typed? | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Yes, the more supply there are, one can be more specific too about it. Or...more men could have standards and stop criticising women for having some? I respect men with standards. Men with statuses like "anyone want their pussy licked?" - not so much. What’s that’s got to do with what I typed? I wasn't replying to you" Gotcha, don’t hit reply to my comment would make that more clear but | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Yes, the more supply there are, one can be more specific too about it. Or...more men could have standards and stop criticising women for having some? I respect men with standards. Men with statuses like "anyone want their pussy licked?" - not so much. What’s that’s got to do with what I typed? I wasn't replying to you Gotcha, don’t hit reply to my comment would make that more clear but " I didn't. I replied to the guy who replied to your comment. | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz " I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz Yes. A lot of the complaints seem to boil down to "women aren't good enough for me" Then don't say yes to things that aren't good enough? That's not hard. I do find it baffling really. Any person is free to say no to another... so what is the problem? Have your standards, don't go for anyone with "hoops" you do not wish to jump through, say no to anyone who doesn't meet your requirements. Easy MrsAbz " Quite. I've throttled my meets in the last few years. Do I meet someone below the standards I set for myself, or do I have a wank? Wanking is better than a bad meet | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion " I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz Yes. A lot of the complaints seem to boil down to "women aren't good enough for me" Then don't say yes to things that aren't good enough? That's not hard. I do find it baffling really. Any person is free to say no to another... so what is the problem? Have your standards, don't go for anyone with "hoops" you do not wish to jump through, say no to anyone who doesn't meet your requirements. Easy MrsAbz Quite. I've throttled my meets in the last few years. Do I meet someone below the standards I set for myself, or do I have a wank? Wanking is better than a bad meet" Infinetly better MrsAbz | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz " I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s " But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) " Men keeping up their standards won’t fix the issue of low effort women and couples putting off the type of guy they’d wanna meet | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) Men keeping up their standards won’t fix the issue of low effort women and couples putting off the type of guy they’d wanna meet " There would be alot of lonely woman on here if the guys upped there standards even just a lil | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) Men keeping up their standards won’t fix the issue of low effort women and couples putting off the type of guy they’d wanna meet " I disagree. If they were getting no offers with their low effort, then they would have to up their game or accept defeat and give up. The incentive to do more would be there. MrsAbz | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz Yes. A lot of the complaints seem to boil down to "women aren't good enough for me" Then don't say yes to things that aren't good enough? That's not hard. I do find it baffling really. Any person is free to say no to another... so what is the problem? Have your standards, don't go for anyone with "hoops" you do not wish to jump through, say no to anyone who doesn't meet your requirements. Easy MrsAbz Quite. I've throttled my meets in the last few years. Do I meet someone below the standards I set for myself, or do I have a wank? Wanking is better than a bad meet" Your patio must be huge! | |||
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"Bob Marley once said... "The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively" But that has fuck all to do with this post! He also said... "If she's amazing, she won't be easy. If she's easy, she won't be amazing. If she's worth it, you wont give up. If you give up, you're not worthy. ... Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for". So put all your effort into 1 woman you really like on here, lots of thought, tap into what you have compatible and go for it. Then sit back and relax and wait as fuck all happens because some guy has a bigger schlong than you or ripped abs, or a dad bod or something else she prefers over you. Then cry on your pillow. Wake up and repeat, but put less effort in and send to 1000s in a cut and paste. Works for me. Not. I'm going gay in 2024. New year's resolution and all that. " Cock for the win.. | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz Yes. A lot of the complaints seem to boil down to "women aren't good enough for me" Then don't say yes to things that aren't good enough? That's not hard. I do find it baffling really. Any person is free to say no to another... so what is the problem? Have your standards, don't go for anyone with "hoops" you do not wish to jump through, say no to anyone who doesn't meet your requirements. Easy MrsAbz Quite. I've throttled my meets in the last few years. Do I meet someone below the standards I set for myself, or do I have a wank? Wanking is better than a bad meet Your patio must be huge! " | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) Men keeping up their standards won’t fix the issue of low effort women and couples putting off the type of guy they’d wanna meet There would be alot of lonely woman on here if the guys upped there standards even just a lil " There wouldn’t be, because the type of guy women want to meet already has standards Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not That’s why fabs lacks an abundance of quality guys. The environment repels them | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) " The way I look at this is that a lazy profile is a lazy profile regardless of who is behind it. There are weekly threads offering unsolicited advice to men about what they are doing wrong and how to improve their chances on here. I've never seen one advising women and couples despite the fact in many cases they are guilty of all the things men get criticised for, including poor or no pics, one line bios, ignorant messages and so on. Of course they will always get more messages and more attention regardless but for those who complain about the quality of messages they receive it's obviously not the attention they are seeking. Just like those who complain about being inundated with messages and have an inbox filled with hundreds of unread correspondence. When they're advised to use the available filters the reply is always to ask "why should I have to?" Again it's a simple fix and would immediately sort out all those broken and mouldy biscuits and give them the chance to choose a better biscuit but anyone suggesting such a thing is derided for having the cheek to say so. I've made an effort with my profile. Some will like it and some won't but anyone getting in touch with one syllable messages or lists of instructions and demands will be ignored or responded to in a similar disrespectful manner. | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) Men keeping up their standards won’t fix the issue of low effort women and couples putting off the type of guy they’d wanna meet There would be alot of lonely woman on here if the guys upped there standards even just a lil There wouldn’t be, because the type of guy women want to meet already has standards Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not That’s why fabs lacks an abundance of quality guys. The environment repels them " So your solution to men being desperate and validating women who apparently aren't good enough is that women should change? Funny how that works. It's always someone else's fault | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Yes, the more supply there are, one can be more specific too about it. Or...more men could have standards and stop criticising women for having some? I respect men with standards. Men with statuses like "anyone want their pussy licked?" - not so much. " Yes, they could have that, but they would have wait longer to find one too. | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) Men keeping up their standards won’t fix the issue of low effort women and couples putting off the type of guy they’d wanna meet There would be alot of lonely woman on here if the guys upped there standards even just a lil There wouldn’t be, because the type of guy women want to meet already has standards Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not That’s why fabs lacks an abundance of quality guys. The environment repels them So your solution to men being desperate and validating women who apparently aren't good enough is that women should change? Funny how that works. It's always someone else's fault " If you read further up I said “And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. ” | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination?" If there are too many "hoops" I move on, I'm not gonna be that guy. I'm here hoping to meet a lady with a similar outlook to me only hoop I jump to/set is we find each other mutually attractive | |||
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" Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not " Um. If a guy is looking to swing, on a swinging site, fab is probably the place to be. This is where I need a shrug emoji. Mrs TMN | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination?" They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? If there are too many "hoops" I move on, I'm not gonna be that guy. I'm here hoping to meet a lady with a similar outlook to me only hoop I jump to/set is we find each other mutually attractive" See, the way I see hoops is, "this is what I'm likely to find attractive". That way, if you've got an 80s tash and I hate that shit, you don't waste your time messaging me. (random example) That or reducing Fabmin. "Guys, I get umpty billion messages a day*, if you've done me the basic courtesy of reading my profile, show it some way so I don't spend hours doing admin on something that should be fun" * not me. I do not get umpty billion messages a day. | |||
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"Bob Marley once said... "The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively" But that has fuck all to do with this post! He also said... "If she's amazing, she won't be easy. If she's easy, she won't be amazing. If she's worth it, you wont give up. If you give up, you're not worthy. ... Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for". So put all your effort into 1 woman you really like on here, lots of thought, tap into what you have compatible and go for it. Then sit back and relax and wait as fuck all happens because some guy has a bigger schlong than you or ripped abs, or a dad bod or something else she prefers over you. Then cry on your pillow. Wake up and repeat, but put less effort in and send to 1000s in a cut and paste. Works for me. Not. I'm going gay in 2024. New year's resolution and all that. Cock for the win.. " Absofuckinglutely. Or I could grow tits instead lol. I'm halfway there already. | |||
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" Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not Um. If a guy is looking to swing, on a swinging site, fab is probably the place to be. This is where I need a shrug emoji. Mrs TMN " I am currently looking for biscuits... MrsAbz | |||
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"Bob Marley once said... "The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively" But that has fuck all to do with this post! He also said... "If she's amazing, she won't be easy. If she's easy, she won't be amazing. If she's worth it, you wont give up. If you give up, you're not worthy. ... Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for". So put all your effort into 1 woman you really like on here, lots of thought, tap into what you have compatible and go for it. Then sit back and relax and wait as fuck all happens because some guy has a bigger schlong than you or ripped abs, or a dad bod or something else she prefers over you. Then cry on your pillow. Wake up and repeat, but put less effort in and send to 1000s in a cut and paste. Works for me. Not. I'm going gay in 2024. New year's resolution and all that. Cock for the win.. Absofuckinglutely. Or I could grow tits instead lol. I'm halfway there already." living on a prayer? | |||
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" Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not Um. If a guy is looking to swing, on a swinging site, fab is probably the place to be. This is where I need a shrug emoji. Mrs TMN I am currently looking for biscuits... MrsAbz " Ooh, any wagon wheels? | |||
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" Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not Um. If a guy is looking to swing, on a swinging site, fab is probably the place to be. This is where I need a shrug emoji. Mrs TMN I am currently looking for biscuits... MrsAbz Ooh, any wagon wheels? " I'd love one but the gremlins who persist in living in my house have eaten everything Today is a sad biscuitless day MrsAbz | |||
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" Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not Um. If a guy is looking to swing, on a swinging site, fab is probably the place to be. This is where I need a shrug emoji. Mrs TMN I am currently looking for biscuits... MrsAbz Ooh, any wagon wheels? I'd love one but the gremlins who persist in living in my house have eaten everything Today is a sad biscuitless day MrsAbz" Give them the dunt! That is unacceptable. | |||
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"What seems to come through are a couple of things, 1) men have unrealistic expectations of both the website and the women on it, and 2) a lot of men don’t like having to work for what they seem to think should be theirs by right. This leads me to believe that there are a lot of men on here who either have little respect for women, or don’t have the first clue what women want. Mr DD" Oh and 3) it’s always the fault of women and couples. | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) Men keeping up their standards won’t fix the issue of low effort women and couples putting off the type of guy they’d wanna meet There would be alot of lonely woman on here if the guys upped there standards even just a lil There wouldn’t be, because the type of guy women want to meet already has standards Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not That’s why fabs lacks an abundance of quality guys. The environment repels them " Can someone please elaborate on what these "hoops" actually are you're all being made to jump through that are so repellent? | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Yes, the more supply there are, one can be more specific too about it. Or...more men could have standards and stop criticising women for having some? I respect men with standards. Men with statuses like "anyone want their pussy licked?" - not so much. " Exactly, many ask to meet without ever seeing what we look like & send messages saying they're in town for a couple of hours and are horny. Like anyone will do. | |||
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" Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not Um. If a guy is looking to swing, on a swinging site, fab is probably the place to be. This is where I need a shrug emoji. Mrs TMN I am currently looking for biscuits... MrsAbz Ooh, any wagon wheels? I'd love one but the gremlins who persist in living in my house have eaten everything Today is a sad biscuitless day MrsAbz Give them the dunt! That is unacceptable. " I keep trying but they refuse to go. Excuses like "er, you're our mum you have to feed us and house us" get thrown around. Just rude if you ask me MrsAbz | |||
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" Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not Um. If a guy is looking to swing, on a swinging site, fab is probably the place to be. This is where I need a shrug emoji. Mrs TMN I am currently looking for biscuits... MrsAbz Ooh, any wagon wheels? I'd love one but the gremlins who persist in living in my house have eaten everything Today is a sad biscuitless day MrsAbz Give them the dunt! That is unacceptable. I keep trying but they refuse to go. Excuses like "er, you're our mum you have to feed us and house us" get thrown around. Just rude if you ask me MrsAbz " Honestly. The world's gone mad. Bloody entitled biscuit eaters. | |||
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"What seems to come through are a couple of things, 1) men have unrealistic expectations of both the website and the women on it, and 2) a lot of men don’t like having to work for what they seem to think should be theirs by right. This leads me to believe that there are a lot of men on here who either have little respect for women, or don’t have the first clue what women want. Mr DD Oh and 3) it’s always the fault of women and couples." just spread 'em luv it'll be over soon I'll accept that for a pap smear? | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want " The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity " There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity " In my experience it’s usually when guys are loud about their preferences it’s not very kind and sometimes from a bitter place Very rarely will you see someone complaining about a respectfully expressed preference, and the few that do get shitty about that, as the forumites like to say, is a great filter | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) Men keeping up their standards won’t fix the issue of low effort women and couples putting off the type of guy they’d wanna meet There would be alot of lonely woman on here if the guys upped there standards even just a lil There wouldn’t be, because the type of guy women want to meet already has standards Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not That’s why fabs lacks an abundance of quality guys. The environment repels them Can someone please elaborate on what these "hoops" actually are you're all being made to jump through that are so repellent?" I can't comment on hoops on profiles because I read those as preferences and just pass on by. I can however comment on hoops in messages because those preferences suddenly become entitled and disrespectful. I've had messages from people I've never spoken to telling me to lose the beard or I'll never get to fuck them, get a room sorted for the next day and make sure it's close to their location and I've also been told I'm too old and too straight to ever be successful here. If I agree to play bi and also bring a sexy lady they will consider adding me to their to-do lists for future events. If the roles were reversed and I sent messages like that to others out of the blue I would be ignored or told to go fuck myself. These were all very well verified people, in some cases with 100+ veries and when challenged if this approach ever worked I was told yes every time. The inevitable happened when I told them not this time. Then it was my loss, I was asked if I was an idiot, did I not know who they were and their standing in the community and as such could end my journey? Very different to reading and choosing to ignore on a profile but it sums up how some people see others as chattel. | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? If there are too many "hoops" I move on, I'm not gonna be that guy. I'm here hoping to meet a lady with a similar outlook to me only hoop I jump to/set is we find each other mutually attractive See, the way I see hoops is, "this is what I'm likely to find attractive". That way, if you've got an 80s tash and I hate that shit, you don't waste your time messaging me. (random example) That or reducing Fabmin. "Guys, I get umpty billion messages a day*, if you've done me the basic courtesy of reading my profile, show it some way so I don't spend hours doing admin on something that should be fun" * not me. I do not get umpty billion messages a day." My definition of a hoop maybe different to yours, your hoop ^ is what i'd call preference , I see some that want pictures with objects of their choosing in pictures so they know you're genuine etc, I'm not gonna be that guy | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) Men keeping up their standards won’t fix the issue of low effort women and couples putting off the type of guy they’d wanna meet There would be alot of lonely woman on here if the guys upped there standards even just a lil There wouldn’t be, because the type of guy women want to meet already has standards Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not That’s why fabs lacks an abundance of quality guys. The environment repels them Can someone please elaborate on what these "hoops" actually are you're all being made to jump through that are so repellent? I can't comment on hoops on profiles because I read those as preferences and just pass on by. I can however comment on hoops in messages because those preferences suddenly become entitled and disrespectful. I've had messages from people I've never spoken to telling me to lose the beard or I'll never get to fuck them, get a room sorted for the next day and make sure it's close to their location and I've also been told I'm too old and too straight to ever be successful here. If I agree to play bi and also bring a sexy lady they will consider adding me to their to-do lists for future events. If the roles were reversed and I sent messages like that to others out of the blue I would be ignored or told to go fuck myself. These were all very well verified people, in some cases with 100+ veries and when challenged if this approach ever worked I was told yes every time. The inevitable happened when I told them not this time. Then it was my loss, I was asked if I was an idiot, did I not know who they were and their standing in the community and as such could end my journey? Very different to reading and choosing to ignore on a profile but it sums up how some people see others as chattel. " I always admire your stance on things like this RB, People including men have a choice to jump through these so called hoops or they can say no ta, not for me. The demands you've mentioned are unreasonable & show massive entitlement. Some other things on profiles aren't so much ie no smokers or men just in town for a night. | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz " A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards | |||
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" I can't comment on hoops on profiles because I read those as preferences and just pass on by. I can however comment on hoops in messages because those preferences suddenly become entitled and disrespectful. I've had messages from people I've never spoken to telling me to lose the beard or I'll never get to fuck them, get a room sorted for the next day and make sure it's close to their location and I've also been told I'm too old and too straight to ever be successful here. If I agree to play bi and also bring a sexy lady they will consider adding me to their to-do lists for future events. If the roles were reversed and I sent messages like that to others out of the blue I would be ignored or told to go fuck myself. These were all very well verified people, in some cases with 100+ veries and when challenged if this approach ever worked I was told yes every time. The inevitable happened when I told them not this time. Then it was my loss, I was asked if I was an idiot, did I not know who they were and their standing in the community and as such could end my journey? Very different to reading and choosing to ignore on a profile but it sums up how some people see others as chattel. " The hoops for me are being expected to put up with double standards Poor profiles with no pictures expecting me to have a great profile and tonnes of pics People demanding engaging, funny and witty messages, but replying with very little themselves Some people are just outright demanding and rude, and expect you to just take it because they know even getting a reply is considered a privilege for guys on here And I only say these are hoops because they are treated as such, because most women and couples fully understand that if you don’t jump these hoops, they have 100 other people that will, and they know men know that too. In a way, your often forced to either play the game, or accept you’ll have a really low level of success on here Which is why I think there’s a lacking of quality guys. They don’t need to play the game on fabs, there’s far more rewarding options that don’t require you to put up with such terrible behaviour | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards" I don't think stating you prefer a gym bod etc would cause outrage at all. There is a difference in stating "Atheltic body type preferred" to "no chunky monkeys" It really doesn't offend anyone to state a preferrence nicely. MrsAbz | |||
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"So many hoops... like a well trained circus animal please! I'm happily demanding, I'm unapologetically here for me first and foremost, do I think anyone owes me their time.. absolutely not. If I'm too much like hard work.. you're not for me anyway. No loss. " Couldn't agree more... | |||
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" The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards" Men are perfectly entitled to have whatever they want on their profiles. I often see them looking for BBW for example, or submissive women. No harm in that at all. | |||
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"Some people like to ignore the entitled women on here but it's true that it happens. Some women behave in a way they never would in the real world and enjoy having that power over men, making them jump through hoops and earning whatever amazing thing they think they got. Men allow this behaviour by putting us on a pedestal and doing anything to get the sex so it's partly their fault too. I'm not bashing all women but some of them really need an attitude and reality check." I do fully agree with this. But it’s not just women, this applies to couples also. I don’t want to be put onto a pedestal. I just like to find others with the same interests and there be an attraction there. | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards" Think your way off buddy, I think most women appreciate a guy with real preferences, what they don’t like is guts expressing that as a negative towards people that aren’t there preference Who’s been nasty to you for respectfully expressing a preference? Are they here in the room with us now? | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards I don't think stating you prefer a gym bod etc would cause outrage at all. There is a difference in stating "Atheltic body type preferred" to "no chunky monkeys" It really doesn't offend anyone to state a preferrence nicely. MrsAbz " Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority | |||
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"Bob Marley once said... "The greatness of a man is not in how much wealth he acquires, but in his integrity and his ability to affect those around him positively" But that has fuck all to do with this post! He also said... "If she's amazing, she won't be easy. If she's easy, she won't be amazing. If she's worth it, you wont give up. If you give up, you're not worthy. ... Truth is, everybody is going to hurt you; you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for". So put all your effort into 1 woman you really like on here, lots of thought, tap into what you have compatible and go for it. Then sit back and relax and wait as fuck all happens because some guy has a bigger schlong than you or ripped abs, or a dad bod or something else she prefers over you. Then cry on your pillow. Wake up and repeat, but put less effort in and send to 1000s in a cut and paste. Works for me. Not. I'm going gay in 2024. New year's resolution and all that. Cock for the win.. Absofuckinglutely. Or I could grow tits instead lol. I'm halfway there already. living on a prayer?" Thanks now I can't get the song outta my head! | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards I don't think stating you prefer a gym bod etc would cause outrage at all. There is a difference in stating "Atheltic body type preferred" to "no chunky monkeys" It really doesn't offend anyone to state a preferrence nicely. MrsAbz Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority " Maybe the majority on here but not in the real world. I know a hell of a lot of people and have a 26 and a 15 year old and know most of their mates and not once in my life have I ever met someone who wants to be referred to as “they/them”. | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards I don't think stating you prefer a gym bod etc would cause outrage at all. There is a difference in stating "Atheltic body type preferred" to "no chunky monkeys" It really doesn't offend anyone to state a preferrence nicely. MrsAbz Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority " Ok well pronoun usage is a completely different topic to stating a preference on body type. As noted above, who has actually complained about a nicely stated preference on a male profile? No women I know (nor have I seen on here) has an issue with male preferences. Where is it you are seeing these women objecting to it? MrsAbz | |||
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" Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority " Peoples preferred gender is silly nonsense? Wow... | |||
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" Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority Peoples preferred gender is silly nonsense? Wow... " I’ve only ever met one they/them. Took me all of 5 minutes to get used to using their preferred pronouns. I didn’t die either | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards Think your way off buddy, I think most women appreciate a guy with real preferences, what they don’t like is guts expressing that as a negative towards people that aren’t there preference Who’s been nasty to you for respectfully expressing a preference? Are they here in the room with us now? " The woman only appreciate it when it matchs there's if it doesn't then there's a problem And no one I don't have a list of must haves or most dos you could end up missing out on some that ticks most your boxes buts they faulted in one other box every one deserves the opportunity and not get written just because they struggle for words in a text in person they might end up being the best conversation you could ever have | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards Think your way off buddy, I think most women appreciate a guy with real preferences, what they don’t like is guts expressing that as a negative towards people that aren’t there preference Who’s been nasty to you for respectfully expressing a preference? Are they here in the room with us now? The woman only appreciate it when it matchs there's if it doesn't then there's a problem And no one I don't have a list of must haves or most dos you could end up missing out on some that ticks most your boxes buts they faulted in one other box every one deserves the opportunity and not get written just because they struggle for words in a text in person they might end up being the best conversation you could ever have " I partly agree, everyone loses out on fabs because the medium isn’t great for matchmaking I don’t however think the answer is that women should give even Tom dick and harry that says “hey” a chance to showcase their personality. It’s not realistic, or fair. If people want fabs to be better, we already know what everyone needs to do “You get out what you put in” If men, women and couples put in more effort, they’d all have a better time | |||
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" Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority Peoples preferred gender is silly nonsense? Wow... " preferred gender my point exactly it's being made more and more complicated no wonder men struggle with what is expected of them | |||
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" Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority Peoples preferred gender is silly nonsense? Wow... preferred gender my point exactly it's being made more and more complicated no wonder men struggle with what is expected of them " Ok, now you are taking the biscuit. Does it matter to you what pronoun someone uses - how many times has that been an actual issue to you? I'm willing to bet that it has never, ever come up as an actual issue at all MrsAbz | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards Think your way off buddy, I think most women appreciate a guy with real preferences, what they don’t like is guts expressing that as a negative towards people that aren’t there preference Who’s been nasty to you for respectfully expressing a preference? Are they here in the room with us now? The woman only appreciate it when it matchs there's if it doesn't then there's a problem And no one I don't have a list of must haves or most dos you could end up missing out on some that ticks most your boxes buts they faulted in one other box every one deserves the opportunity and not get written just because they struggle for words in a text in person they might end up being the best conversation you could ever have I partly agree, everyone loses out on fabs because the medium isn’t great for matchmaking I don’t however think the answer is that women should give even Tom dick and harry that says “hey” a chance to showcase their personality. It’s not realistic, or fair. If people want fabs to be better, we already know what everyone needs to do “You get out what you put in” If men, women and couples put in more effort, they’d all have a better time " I mean chance by no just having there message flat out deleted because they haven't written a paragraph or sumin silly obviously more then just hey thou lol alot of guys try with proper opening message and then they get judged on appearance which is why they just get shunned with no response | |||
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" Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority Peoples preferred gender is silly nonsense? Wow... preferred gender my point exactly it's being made more and more complicated no wonder men struggle with what is expected of them " What is expected of men? Shall we make a list? Turn up. Look like your pics. String a sentence together. Don’t be creepy. Take no for an answer. Be respectful. Ya know, basic human decency? Now, how do other peoples preferred pronouns stop you as a man from doing any or all of the above? | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards Think your way off buddy, I think most women appreciate a guy with real preferences, what they don’t like is guts expressing that as a negative towards people that aren’t there preference Who’s been nasty to you for respectfully expressing a preference? Are they here in the room with us now? The woman only appreciate it when it matchs there's if it doesn't then there's a problem And no one I don't have a list of must haves or most dos you could end up missing out on some that ticks most your boxes buts they faulted in one other box every one deserves the opportunity and not get written just because they struggle for words in a text in person they might end up being the best conversation you could ever have I partly agree, everyone loses out on fabs because the medium isn’t great for matchmaking I don’t however think the answer is that women should give even Tom dick and harry that says “hey” a chance to showcase their personality. It’s not realistic, or fair. If people want fabs to be better, we already know what everyone needs to do “You get out what you put in” If men, women and couples put in more effort, they’d all have a better time I mean chance by no just having there message flat out deleted because they haven't written a paragraph or sumin silly obviously more then just hey thou lol alot of guys try with proper opening message and then they get judged on appearance which is why they just get shunned with no response " The problem is, I dunno what you expect them to do Message with no pics, they get 1000s of them, they can’t reply to them all Message with pics but they aren’t attracted? Again, what do you want them to do? Seems like your hyper focused on women giving low effort guys more effort, which isn’t fair How about we all put in more effort? | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards Think your way off buddy, I think most women appreciate a guy with real preferences, what they don’t like is guts expressing that as a negative towards people that aren’t there preference Who’s been nasty to you for respectfully expressing a preference? Are they here in the room with us now? The woman only appreciate it when it matchs there's if it doesn't then there's a problem And no one I don't have a list of must haves or most dos you could end up missing out on some that ticks most your boxes buts they faulted in one other box every one deserves the opportunity and not get written just because they struggle for words in a text in person they might end up being the best conversation you could ever have I partly agree, everyone loses out on fabs because the medium isn’t great for matchmaking I don’t however think the answer is that women should give even Tom dick and harry that says “hey” a chance to showcase their personality. It’s not realistic, or fair. If people want fabs to be better, we already know what everyone needs to do “You get out what you put in” If men, women and couples put in more effort, they’d all have a better time I mean chance by no just having there message flat out deleted because they haven't written a paragraph or sumin silly obviously more then just hey thou lol alot of guys try with proper opening message and then they get judged on appearance which is why they just get shunned with no response " And? You need to be attracted to them do you not? Nothing wrong with that at all | |||
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" Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority Peoples preferred gender is silly nonsense? Wow... preferred gender my point exactly it's being made more and more complicated no wonder men struggle with what is expected of them What is expected of men? Shall we make a list? Turn up. Look like your pics. String a sentence together. Don’t be creepy. Take no for an answer. Be respectful. Ya know, basic human decency? Now, how do other peoples preferred pronouns stop you as a man from doing any or all of the above?" I never like answers like this either because it’s disingenuous That’s not the list that guys needs to do. You all have 100 guys in your inbox right now that would do all that, but arent getting replies Be honest about what you want and you might actually get it | |||
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"have any of you noticed the difference in what a Woman wants as against a Man in the bio pages on Fab. So many hoops to have to jump through with the Ladies?....is it my imagination? They know what they want Also there’s that many guys on here they can afford to filter what / who they don’t want The difference Is tho when woman set these standards guys gotta be this guys gotta have that it's ok coz it's knowing what they want soon as men start saying she can't be this or gotta have that we are body shaming or branded toxic masculinity There is ways of saying what you prefer without being rude to others though. Men often fail at that point. Plus, men struggle because if they say "I want this particular set of parameters" and they don't get that, no woman outside of those parameters is going to then be interested (which is absolutely acceptable). MrsAbz A man can't say it any way without it be offensive Woman has on her profile you have gotta go gym and have gym bod total acceptable coz that's they want now imagine a bloke has that on his profile the outrage it would cause Double standards Think your way off buddy, I think most women appreciate a guy with real preferences, what they don’t like is guts expressing that as a negative towards people that aren’t there preference Who’s been nasty to you for respectfully expressing a preference? Are they here in the room with us now? The woman only appreciate it when it matchs there's if it doesn't then there's a problem And no one I don't have a list of must haves or most dos you could end up missing out on some that ticks most your boxes buts they faulted in one other box every one deserves the opportunity and not get written just because they struggle for words in a text in person they might end up being the best conversation you could ever have I partly agree, everyone loses out on fabs because the medium isn’t great for matchmaking I don’t however think the answer is that women should give even Tom dick and harry that says “hey” a chance to showcase their personality. It’s not realistic, or fair. If people want fabs to be better, we already know what everyone needs to do “You get out what you put in” If men, women and couples put in more effort, they’d all have a better time I mean chance by no just having there message flat out deleted because they haven't written a paragraph or sumin silly obviously more then just hey thou lol alot of guys try with proper opening message and then they get judged on appearance which is why they just get shunned with no response " No it doesn't matter to me at all it's just confusing remember men are simple creatures nd we all of a sudden have start thinking and understanding all these new things that 90% of womam are wanting from there men it's no wonder our grandparents are the last generation of true love and happiness they kept it simple | |||
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" Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority Peoples preferred gender is silly nonsense? Wow... preferred gender my point exactly it's being made more and more complicated no wonder men struggle with what is expected of them What is expected of men? Shall we make a list? Turn up. Look like your pics. String a sentence together. Don’t be creepy. Take no for an answer. Be respectful. Ya know, basic human decency? Now, how do other peoples preferred pronouns stop you as a man from doing any or all of the above? I never like answers like this either because it’s disingenuous That’s not the list that guys needs to do. You all have 100 guys in your inbox right now that would do all that, but arent getting replies Be honest about what you want and you might actually get it " Okay fine mr arguepants, obviously I couldn’t be fucked to list everything so I went for the short version And far be it from me to disagree with you about what ‘I’ want, but yes, I do actually want the above as a basic starter package. That’s being honest. | |||
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" Maybe 20years ago not today now men gotta ask if it's ok to call you a lady or she/her they r what silly ever nonsense has been invented that week so not to cause offence it don't matter how men word it it will always be offensive to the majority Peoples preferred gender is silly nonsense? Wow... preferred gender my point exactly it's being made more and more complicated no wonder men struggle with what is expected of them What is expected of men? Shall we make a list? Turn up. Look like your pics. String a sentence together. Don’t be creepy. Take no for an answer. Be respectful. Ya know, basic human decency? Now, how do other peoples preferred pronouns stop you as a man from doing any or all of the above? I never like answers like this either because it’s disingenuous That’s not the list that guys needs to do. You all have 100 guys in your inbox right now that would do all that, but arent getting replies Be honest about what you want and you might actually get it " But then women are honest and state their preferences and we are right back at the beginning of "hoops to jump through" being moaned at! Women will still get messages from those who do not fit their requirements and those people will still be annoyed they weren't given a chance, despite not being suitable. MrsAbz | |||
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"Okay fine mr arguepants, obviously I couldn’t be fucked to list everything so I went for the short version And far be it from me to disagree with you about what ‘I’ want, but yes, I do actually want the above as a basic starter package. That’s being honest. " That’s part of the problem though isn’t it. Your saying you want a really basic list of things, and tonnes of guys that offer all that aren’t even getting replies and then they don’t understand And it’s so common. “I just want someone nice and respectful” - no you don’t, there’s 100 other things they need to be, just be honest The issue is the list you offer makes it sound like it’s so easy and men just aren’t living up to an extremely basic list, when that’s not the case. A little honesty on both sides goes a long way | |||
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"Are they hoops or preferences though?. We are all entitled to ask for whatever we want on our profiles op. Why should women meet or choose just anyone on here, to save some men getting the hump. I'm very clear on my profile, it does deter some people, which he how I like it. Call it what you want, the fact that many couples and women on here demand maximum efforts from guys while offering very little themselves, all while knowing they won’t be held to a standard because men outnumber them 100 to 1 seems more like a hoop than a standard to me Prehaps the solution is that men have standards in place then? If all the single men had standards and preferences clearly stated and held to, surely then you would see the result you want? I don't think it would lead to more men getting what they want but prehaps fewer others having what they want or having to do a little more work to get there? MrsAbz I think it would result in both sides getting more of what they want in my opinion I don't think it would but it doesn't matter really Men should just have their standards and stick to them, same as the majority of women do, it would stop the same old complaints coming up all the time MrsAbz I agree, it just means both sides won’t have as much fun The type of guy most women want to meet won’t put up with low effort, demanding woman. So when women say they struggle to find a suitable meet on here when there’s 100 men to every woman, it’s most likely not down to no men meeting her standards, it’s that the men that she would be interested in don’t get much past the overly demanding bio or low effort first few messages And it’s not just women either, low effort on both sides ruins the experience. The issue is that men feel the consequences of low effort by getting zero replies, and either learn to fix it and accept defeat. Women and couples continue to get endless messages and assume it’s not their low effort that’s hurting them, it’s everyone else’s But surely the solution is, again, that men keep to there standards? If women and couples are inundated with offers, there is no incentive to change the way things are done. Its like if I can eat a thousand biscuits a day without exercising and I don't put on weight, why would I make the effort to exercise? If I then discover I am putting on weight eating a thousand biscuits, I will have to make the effort to exercise because there is incentive to do so. I will make the change because it is needed. MrsAbz (who may be slightly hungry and wants a biscuit) Men keeping up their standards won’t fix the issue of low effort women and couples putting off the type of guy they’d wanna meet There would be alot of lonely woman on here if the guys upped there standards even just a lil There wouldn’t be, because the type of guy women want to meet already has standards Do you really think quality guy that can pull on a night out or on the apps is going to stick around on fabs where 99% of first messages go unopened and most women/couples treat guys as disposable until they’ve jumped through 20 hoops for them? Obviously not That’s why fabs lacks an abundance of quality guys. The environment repels them Can someone please elaborate on what these "hoops" actually are you're all being made to jump through that are so repellent? I can't comment on hoops on profiles because I read those as preferences and just pass on by. I can however comment on hoops in messages because those preferences suddenly become entitled and disrespectful. I've had messages from people I've never spoken to telling me to lose the beard or I'll never get to fuck them, get a room sorted for the next day and make sure it's close to their location and I've also been told I'm too old and too straight to ever be successful here. If I agree to play bi and also bring a sexy lady they will consider adding me to their to-do lists for future events. If the roles were reversed and I sent messages like that to others out of the blue I would be ignored or told to go fuck myself. These were all very well verified people, in some cases with 100+ veries and when challenged if this approach ever worked I was told yes every time. The inevitable happened when I told them not this time. Then it was my loss, I was asked if I was an idiot, did I not know who they were and their standing in the community and as such could end my journey? Very different to reading and choosing to ignore on a profile but it sums up how some people see others as chattel. " Thanks for this perspective. Those people sound awful. Are you not grateful they cockblocked themselves out of a meet with you though? I would be. | |||
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