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Hoping the ABs win as sa had 2 tough games and nz had a cruise. But also hoping the ref and tmo is fair to both sides this time and doesn't spoil the game. Calls crooked line outs and calls forward passes.... |
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over a year ago
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"Never a yellow he fell down the side of the ruck
The law now protects the lower limbs at the ruck. Absolutely yellow and probably red"
Only got away with it as the tmo reckons he landed on his leg by accident
Bollocks |
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Fucking ridiculous imo, it wasn't deliberate. We take people off for 10 mins now.
How to ruin a World Cup Final! I hope it doesn't, but honesly.
Would anyone have complained if this remained yellow? He'd be off for 10 mins ffs.
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"2nd yellow will be a red all day long
Go Bokke!!
I think it will be a red,
I’m surprised it was a review and not straight red"
Doesn't matter, he was off the field any way.
Don't underestimate the AB being a man down |
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"2nd yellow will be a red all day long
Go Bokke!!
I think it will be a red,
I’m surprised it was a review and not straight red"
I might be wrong but I don’t think there’s been a straight red in the whole tournament? Every red has been called from the bunker? |
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"2nd yellow will be a red all day long
Go Bokke!!
I think it will be a red,
I’m surprised it was a review and not straight red
I might be wrong but I don’t think there’s been a straight red in the whole tournament? Every red has been called from the bunker?"
I get why they do it from the bunker - just to be sure, but when it’s clear, why waste the time imo |
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"2nd yellow will be a red all day long
Go Bokke!!
I think it will be a red,
I’m surprised it was a review and not straight red"
Was a straight red... Shoulder to head, clear line of sight, High degree of danger no mitigation... Spoils the final but at least consistent with the other reds in the tournament. |
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Maybe I need to see it more but I don't really get it. I doesn't happen often maybe, but why would the captain of NZ want to do this? Kriel wasn't full height and Cane failed to get down and caught his head. Yes it was a dangerous situation, but now he's off. Surely 10 mins and the penalty is a better punishment?
If it was clearly intentional I'd understand, it's just the time people have to react - if your body doesn't do it for you it seems as if that's it, in this case anyway.
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"Kick & clap: nearly as exciting as watching paint dry. Watch proper rugby ffs. "
I watch both mate. It’s possible to find both thrilling in their own way, also possible to enjoy one without shitting on the other |
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"Gawd what a game. My nerves are jangling and my team isn't playing. "
I have English and South African family. Was hoping for a repeat of last years final so I could be happy either way  I’m Boks all the way usually though |
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"Kick & clap: nearly as exciting as watching paint dry. Watch proper rugby ffs.
I watch both mate. It’s possible to find both thrilling in their own way, also possible to enjoy one without shitting on the other"
This^ |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I moved countries just so I don’t have to watch it every Sat of my life! Watched last weekend and found it so frustrating, stop start stop start with the scrums. Definitely turned into a football fan instead. Doesn’t mean I don’t want the Bokke too win but so glad I don’t watch it more than every 4 years! |
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"I moved countries just so I don’t have to watch it every Sat of my life! Watched last weekend and found it so frustrating, stop start stop start with the scrums. Definitely turned into a football fan instead. Doesn’t mean I don’t want the Bokke too win but so glad I don’t watch it more than every 4 years!"
I’m more of a football fan definitely, but I do watch the RWC every 4 years and some other internationals. Think the family would disown me if I didn’t |
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By *mf123Man
over a year ago
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Zzzz zzzz zzzz up there with the dullest sporting finals iv ever seen how do you score 70s 80s 90s 100s all way thru the groups then 23 between both finalists thats like badminton where everyone misses the shuttlecock with every swing |
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Well done SA, they kept hold of their lead. The first knock-out onwards game that went slightly the wrong way in terms of gameplay imo, but you can't argue with the final scoreline.
It was always asking a lot to expect the game to be as good as the KO's tbh. pt |
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"Absolutely amazing. First team to ever win the RWC twice on the bounce. Sia Kolisi take a bow kid   "
Nope not the first team, New Zealand won it 2011 and 2015. |
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"Another word cup win and no tries... Not a great showpiece. But they know how to grind out games for results"
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They are a much better watch when they are behind this South Africa. Probably any South Africa!
It's hard to say they didn't deserve to win though. It's just a shame NZ didn't manage to get ahead in the game at any point.
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"Another word cup win and no tries... Not a great showpiece. But they know how to grind out games for results.
NZ did! You must of been busy doing other stuff  "
No.. I meant sa.. Have won 4 world cups and not scored a try in 3 of them... I mean well done but fuck me that was dull rugby |
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"Zzzz zzzz zzzz up there with the dullest sporting finals iv ever seen how do you score 70s 80s 90s 100s all way thru the groups then 23 between both finalists thats like badminton where everyone misses the shuttlecock with every swing "
In the groups they’re playing games against farmers, accountants and police officers. Some complete amateur sides in the group stage |
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"That was an amazing game. It wasn't the most free flowing game but the physicality and fitness from both sides was amazing.
One of the best finals when it come to physical and fitness."
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It's frightening how fit they are, it felt like a a very stretched out tournament though this time I thought. pt |
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"Another word cup win and no tries... Not a great showpiece. But they know how to grind out games for results.
NZ did! You must of been busy doing other stuff
No.. I meant sa.. Have won 4 world cups and not scored a try in 3 of them... I mean well done but fuck me that was dull rugby "
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By *avie65Man
over a year ago
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"That was an amazing game. It wasn't the most free flowing game but the physicality and fitness from both sides was amazing.
One of the best finals when it come to physical and fitness.
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It's frightening how fit they are, it felt like a a very stretched out tournament though this time I thought. pt"
Yes it is and to keep that up over such a long time. It has been a long tournament but I think the breaks helped to produce good games.
It also meant most people could watch the games at the weekend. |
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"That was an amazing game. It wasn't the most free flowing game but the physicality and fitness from both sides was amazing.
One of the best finals when it come to physical and fitness.
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It's frightening how fit they are, it felt like a a very stretched out tournament though this time I thought. pt
Yes it is and to keep that up over such a long time. It has been a long tournament but I think the breaks helped to produce good games.
It also meant most people could watch the games at the weekend. "
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I found it hard to get into at first, but it did lead to an excellent knock out phase, no doubt about that. pt |
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"What a tournament.
Great games.
Up and coming teams.
Surprise results.
Retirements.
Debuts.
Surprise early departures.
Rugby families.
Well done South Africa
See you in 4yrs time!!"
True.
Portugal... Tonga... Fiji... Let's hope the 2nd tier get a faircrack |
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over a year ago
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I was worried it would turn into a one sided South African domination, when NZ went down to 14.
Hats of for giving it a good go. If not for better kicking, they might have pulled it off. |
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Great tournament, shite final.
Always gonna be cagey I suppose but it really was dull and again spoilt by inconsistent over officiating.
Really pleased the springboks triumphed, best team in the world for the last 5/6 years wins World Cup… shock.
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"Great tournament, shite final.
Always gonna be cagey I suppose but it really was dull and again spoilt by inconsistent over officiating.
Really pleased the springboks triumphed, best team in the world for the last 5/6 years wins World Cup… shock.
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Agree the officials have totally spoiled it. Some of it has become almost unrefereeable... When and how the tmo intervened very inconsistent and favoured tier 1 teams. ... Sa beat France thanks to some dodgy refereeing, England due to some dodgy refereeing and nz due to some dodgy refereeing... OK... Inconsistant application of the laws.
Forward pass is rarely applied as is non straight Lineouts and supporting your own body weight at a ruck... Tackling and playing while on the floor is also creeping in. Shame as it can be a magnificent sport.
The minnows played the most exciting rugby.
Still 6N next |
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The minnows played the most exciting rugby.
Still 6N next"
I’m actually excited to see how Borth and the coaches develop the team from this very encouraging start.
It’s the most positive I’ve felt about the national team since Clive stepped down.
Roll on the 6 nations |
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"Great tournament, shite final.
Always gonna be cagey I suppose but it really was dull and again spoilt by inconsistent over officiating.
Really pleased the springboks triumphed, best team in the world for the last 5/6 years wins World Cup… shock.
Agree the officials have totally spoiled it. Some of it has become almost unrefereeable... When and how the tmo intervened very inconsistent and favoured tier 1 teams. ... Sa beat France thanks to some dodgy refereeing, England due to some dodgy refereeing and nz due to some dodgy refereeing... OK... Inconsistant application of the laws.
Forward pass is rarely applied as is non straight Lineouts and supporting your own body weight at a ruck... Tackling and playing while on the floor is also creeping in. Shame as it can be a magnificent sport.
The minnows played the most exciting rugby.
Still 6N next"
Totally agree, the game is becoming a wash with problems. They seem so hot on this and that, yet are missing obvious infringements here and there. So quick to pull it back for one thing yet happy to let others slide. There is no consistency at all, and we though football had problems.
SA can tip one large drink towards a lot of luck in this world cup. |
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By *os19Man
over a year ago
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My knowledge on rugby union is limited but I always enjoy watching the knockout games of a World Cup.Congratulations to South Africa they won their 3 knockout games by the smallest of margins which to me shows what a fine line there is between success and failure. |
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The minnows played the most exciting rugby.
Still 6N next
I’m actually excited to see how Borth and the coaches develop the team from this very encouraging start.
It’s the most positive I’ve felt about the national team since Clive stepped down.
Roll on the 6 nations "
I don't share your optimism sadly. Far from convinced by wiggy as attack coach. We often look clueless with ball in hand unless Smith is on the pitch and struggling to think of the last time we unlocked a defence with craft.
Apart from that.. Unless we find some decent props we can't do anything... Marler and Cole will go... Sinckler and rodd have gone backwards... Genge is a bit hot and cold... Stuart is doing well...George hasnt ripped up any trees for a while... We progressed from a really low base in the last few months but... As much as I love rugby watching us kick the ball away all the time is hard graft. |
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The minnows played the most exciting rugby.
Still 6N next
I’m actually excited to see how Borth and the coaches develop the team from this very encouraging start.
It’s the most positive I’ve felt about the national team since Clive stepped down.
Roll on the 6 nations "
What have you seen to make you feel such optimism? |
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"Great tournament, shite final.
Always gonna be cagey I suppose but it really was dull and again spoilt by inconsistent over officiating.
Really pleased the springboks triumphed, best team in the world for the last 5/6 years wins World Cup… shock.
Agree the officials have totally spoiled it. Some of it has become almost unrefereeable... When and how the tmo intervened very inconsistent and favoured tier 1 teams. ... Sa beat France thanks to some dodgy refereeing, England due to some dodgy refereeing and nz due to some dodgy refereeing... OK... Inconsistant application of the laws.
Forward pass is rarely applied as is non straight Lineouts and supporting your own body weight at a ruck... Tackling and playing while on the floor is also creeping in. Shame as it can be a magnificent sport.
The minnows played the most exciting rugby.
Still 6N next
Totally agree, the game is becoming a wash with problems. They seem so hot on this and that, yet are missing obvious infringements here and there. So quick to pull it back for one thing yet happy to let others slide. There is no consistency at all, and we though football had problems.
SA can tip one large drink towards a lot of luck in this world cup. "
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Sorry, I was too busy getting the Braai ready before the game to comment.
Objectively Sam Can was unlucky and Siya Kolisi was lucky.
The game was so tight that if NZ had played with a full squad, I think it would have been enough to lift the trophy… they also left 2 & 3 points on the field which would have made the difference.
Having said that, we had a few tough games with both France and England being very competitive and you could see the exhaustion at the end of the game.
Very chuffed that we have 4 wins… maybe we can do something in the cricket too?  |
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"Sorry, I was too busy getting the Braai ready before the game to comment.
Objectively Sam Can was unlucky and Siya Kolisi was lucky.
The game was so tight that if NZ had played with a full squad, I think it would have been enough to lift the trophy… they also left 2 & 3 points on the field which would have made the difference.
Having said that, we had a few tough games with both France and England being very competitive and you could see the exhaustion at the end of the game.
Very chuffed that we have 4 wins… maybe we can do something in the cricket too? "
Just watching us getting dicked by India so.... Let's hope we take home the women's wxv... |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
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"Sorry, I was too busy getting the Braai ready before the game to comment.
Objectively Sam Can was unlucky and Siya Kolisi was lucky.
The game was so tight that if NZ had played with a full squad, I think it would have been enough to lift the trophy… they also left 2 & 3 points on the field which would have made the difference.
Having said that, we had a few tough games with both France and England being very competitive and you could see the exhaustion at the end of the game.
Very chuffed that we have 4 wins… maybe we can do something in the cricket too? "
I think RSA played well and NZ made a few mistakes and had a bit of bad luck. Pretty even game other than that.
Poor FAF De Clerk. Who names their baby FAF ?  |
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Roll on the 6 nations
What have you seen to make you feel such optimism? "
Steady improvements in performance.
A squad that clearly wants to leave everything out on the field for the coaches and teammates.
A togetherness that hasn’t really been seen for years.
A selection policy that can see past the sarries squad of premadonnas.
Ben earl… Theo Dan to name just two that I think are absolutely world class prospects.
English national rugby looks extremely similar exciting for me.
The professional game and especially grass roots are a completely different story and those at the top of the controlling panel RFU should be publicly hung for what they’ve done in the last 10-20 years, they are a fucking disgrace.
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Roll on the 6 nations
What have you seen to make you feel such optimism?
Steady improvements in performance.
A squad that clearly wants to leave everything out on the field for the coaches and teammates.
A togetherness that hasn’t really been seen for years.
A selection policy that can see past the sarries squad of premadonnas.
Ben earl… Theo Dan to name just two that I think are absolutely world class prospects.
English national rugby looks extremely similar exciting for me.
The professional game and especially grass roots are a completely different story and those at the top of the controlling panel RFU should be publicly hung for what they’ve done in the last 10-20 years, they are a fucking disgrace.
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I do appreciate the irony in naming two young sarries players there  |
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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago
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can someone explain fairly briefly wtf goes on in rugby, I get it that a guy runs with the ball and touches it down over the line at the opponents end or he kicks it over the cross bar but between the posts, what is all the other stuff about like they have a mass cuddle then the ball is thrown in the middle etc. |
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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago
Dubai & Nottingham |
"can someone explain fairly briefly wtf goes on in rugby, I get it that a guy runs with the ball and touches it down over the line at the opponents end or he kicks it over the cross bar but between the posts, what is all the other stuff about like they have a mass cuddle then the ball is thrown in the middle etc."
Who knows but it’s great to watch in the pub , it’s the best thing about the pub. |
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"can someone explain fairly briefly wtf goes on in rugby, I get it that a guy runs with the ball and touches it down over the line at the opponents end or he kicks it over the cross bar but between the posts, what is all the other stuff about like they have a mass cuddle then the ball is thrown in the middle etc."
Think you nailed it but if you do manage to find out the other stuff, be sure and let world rugby know |
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Roll on the 6 nations
What have you seen to make you feel such optimism?
Steady improvements in performance.
A squad that clearly wants to leave everything out on the field for the coaches and teammates.
A togetherness that hasn’t really been seen for years.
A selection policy that can see past the sarries squad of premadonnas.
Ben earl… Theo Dan to name just two that I think are absolutely world class prospects.
English national rugby looks extremely similar exciting for me.
The professional game and especially grass roots are a completely different story and those at the top of the controlling panel RFU should be publicly hung for what they’ve done in the last 10-20 years, they are a fucking disgrace.
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I agree with a lot of the sentiment but... The prem isn't churning out quality players able to make the step up. Who knows if the next generation has what it takes to replace the spaces left by the retirees... Earl was a revelation but at openside. Mercer arundell murley can poortfliet Stuart may or not have what takes.. Martin and chessum looked impressive. Faz can't be the answer at 10...weve tried that for 6 years and it's madness to thibk he's suddenly going to spark the backs into life.
With the players off to France and the reduced salary cap I think it's going to a lot more pain before any gain.
Personally think the worst thing that could happen is think the England game us in clover... Its in a lot of trouble... But let's see if we can do anything in the 6n |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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6nations….
The lions tour to Australia (lions will win the series 3-0, hardest game my be the “combined oz/nz team… which is going to be the all black team in all but name)
And the world champion series where they basically screwed the tier 2 teams! The one thing I really liked about this World Cup was the rise of the tier 2 countries |
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"6nations….
The lions tour to Australia (lions will win the series 3-0, hardest game my be the “combined oz/nz team… which is going to be the all black team in all but name)
And the world champion series where they basically screwed the tier 2 teams! The one thing I really liked about this World Cup was the rise of the tier 2 countries "
Agree about the tier 2 nations. They lit the place up except Romania... Tried to play some rugby too. You can see the existing tier 1 clinging onto their exclusive club but Georgia, Portugal, Namibia, Tonga, Samoa,even Uruguay all deserve a bit more exposure. Here's hoping. |
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