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Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought |
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By *ruceyyMan
over a year ago
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"Yeah true that.
Bit like paying women less in jobs innit  "
Oh SHNAP.
To be fair if I had to pay anymore for this site I would....decline. and leave.
Wasn't anything else to say there really was there |
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought "
Yes disgraceful! I usually buddy up with someone as the ones near me women are free couples are think e0 ish and single men 50ish! Not fair! And as I don't drive I pay the entrance as they driving me there win win x |
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Not all clubs overcharge men, but as said above it is supply and demand because of the volume of men to the volume of women.
I think the issue I have with charging men more is the entitlement it can give, some men do have the attitude of thinking that sex should be a right because they've paid |
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought "
Do you have an alternative suggestion that would keep clubs funded and help balance the men:women ratio? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I actually posted this on another thread today.
Women who attend swingers club may well have paided to get hair/nails/body wax for the event. They spend probably 4xs the single man entrance fee on treatments,lingerie, make up outfit and heels. Often the lingerie is lost or damaged during the evening.
Most (not all) single guys rock up in a polo shirt and jeans and just pop their cocks out of their flies as they follow the women around wanking. |
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"I actually posted this on another thread today.
Women who attend swingers club may well have paided to get hair/nails/body wax for the event. They spend probably 4xs the single man entrance fee on treatments,lingerie, make up outfit and heels. Often the lingerie is lost or damaged during the evening.
Most (not all) single guys rock up in a polo shirt and jeans and just pop their cocks out of their flies as they follow the women around wanking. "
I don't mind paying. I generally dress up and prefer that it's not a sausage fest. I'm an older gentleman, so I like a chat first |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah true that.
Bit like paying women less in jobs innit "
Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism
As for the clubs, it’s a private club, no covered under the equality act I believe |
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought "
Supply and demand tho. The beauty of a free market economy. But please feel free to challenge this one legally through the courts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I actually posted this on another thread today.
Women who attend swingers club may well have paided to get hair/nails/body wax for the event. They spend probably 4xs the single man entrance fee on treatments,lingerie, make up outfit and heels. Often the lingerie is lost or damaged during the evening.
Most (not all) single guys rock up in a polo shirt and jeans and just pop their cocks out of their flies as they follow the women around wanking. "
So true also the time consuming can’t just jump in a shower and go
It’s like a day and hafe or so prep time before the event |
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By (user no longer on site)
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My thought on the clubs is this
Most good guys are going to be put off by the extra cost.
What you end up with is a lot of guts so desperate there’ll pay the extra cost
So you end up with the opposite effect, you drive away normal, sane guys that’ll just go to a normal pub/club instead, and are left with the desperate creeps
I dunno what the fix for that is. I’ve been invited to some invite only things where you have to be vetter, but that’s not realistic for most clubs, they’d run out of business |
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One other solution is to charge everyone equally, and permit equal numbers of attendees. 30 single females, 30 single guys, 30 couples. Advance ticket sales only.
Thing is, would there then just be single guys complaining they can't get tickets.
I also don't agree with the difference in price, but it's supply and demand sadly. |
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"Not all clubs overcharge men, but as said above it is supply and demand because of the volume of men to the volume of women.
I think the issue I have with charging men more is the entitlement it can give, some men do have the attitude of thinking that sex should be a right because they've paid "
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought
Do you have an alternative suggestion that would keep clubs funded and help balance the men:women ratio? "
Membership and entry by reservation only |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah true that.
Bit like paying women less in jobs innit
It would be if such things happened..
They do"
I have had 7 full time employments in my 43 years of working, both private and public sector. In all of them I had female colleagues doing the same jobs as me. They received exactly the same salary as me, in fact in two jobs they attracted extra payments and concessions because they were women.
If you are talking about executive type positions where salaries are influenced by far more than just gender you may have some argument, for the miniscule number of women that actually affects. |
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought "
I like this post. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think it’s supply and demand, but maybe charge guys extra- but not crazy amounts more and limit how many singles go in due to ratios, I wouldn’t mind paying extra but I don’t want to be ripped off! |
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Not all clubs charge men much more.
Also, applying exactly the same logic that there should not be gender-based charges, look at hair cuts. Men go in looking all ragged, come out looking great and pay a tenner, maybe a bit more. Women go in and come out looking almost exactly the same and pay through the nose. Should we get equal charges here? And yes, I do know that female hairdressers normally use more products. |
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"Not all clubs charge men much more.
Also, applying exactly the same logic that there should not be gender-based charges, look at hair cuts. Men go in looking all ragged, come out looking great and pay a tenner, maybe a bit more. Women go in and come out looking almost exactly the same and pay through the nose. Should we get equal charges here? And yes, I do know that female hairdressers normally use more products. "
Not really a great example because women’s cuts tend to be more challenging, take longer and as you said, use more product
Nothing is stopping women going to the Turkish and getting a high fade for £12 |
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By *TG3Man
over a year ago
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought "
Yes but to make a profit its the only way, they have to charge less for women to make it attractive for them to go, do you want a club full of all men? Then the price would come down  |
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First visit is free with a conversation recorder, step counter and GPS tracker attached to your locker key. Future fees and memberships depends on your interactions.
This may or may not be a serious answer  
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah true that.
Bit like paying women less in jobs innit
Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism
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No she was awarded a Nobel prize for proving that there IS a gender pay gap.
"Harvard economist Claudia Goldin has been awarded the Nobel Prize in economics for her work examining the gender pay gap.
Goldin, 77, was recognised for her research showing that women are paid less than men on average despite having higher education levels and that most of the gap appears after childbirth." (source: Al Jazeera)
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"Yeah true that.
Bit like paying women less in jobs innit
It would be if such things happened..
They do
I have had 7 full time employments in my 43 years of working, both private and public sector. In all of them I had female colleagues doing the same jobs as me. They received exactly the same salary as me, in fact in two jobs they attracted extra payments and concessions because they were women.
If you are talking about executive type positions where salaries are influenced by far more than just gender you may have some argument, for the miniscule number of women that actually affects."
I really really really wish that men would do just the modicum of reading before starting on this topic. The gender pay gap is NOT about women earning less doing the precise same job as a male counterpart as ...of course ....that is illegal now. It's about structural sexism. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah true that.
Bit like paying women less in jobs innit
It would be if such things happened..
They do
I have had 7 full time employments in my 43 years of working, both private and public sector. In all of them I had female colleagues doing the same jobs as me. They received exactly the same salary as me, in fact in two jobs they attracted extra payments and concessions because they were women.
If you are talking about executive type positions where salaries are influenced by far more than just gender you may have some argument, for the miniscule number of women that actually affects.
I really really really wish that men would do just the modicum of reading before starting on this topic. The gender pay gap is NOT about women earning less doing the precise same job as a male counterpart as ...of course ....that is illegal now. It's about structural sexism. "
“ She ultimately concludes that the current wage gap is predominantly due to the impact of having children”
Seems it’s more about choices made, not sexism |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism
What about male and female footballers ?"
They have the fraction of the viewership and revenue, and get paid accordingly
Millions of men fill stadiums every week to watch other men play football and buy football related products. Once women start filling stadiums for the woman’s games I’m sure the pay will catch up |
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women? "
Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men
Very tempted to just find another single guy outside the venue and go in as a couple, although I don’t think we’d get away with it  |
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Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism
What about male and female footballers ?
They have the fraction of the viewership and revenue, and get paid accordingly
Millions of men fill stadiums every week to watch other men play football and buy football related products. Once women start filling stadiums for the woman’s games I’m sure the pay will catch up "
I totally agree with you. I was just giving it as an example that in some professions unequal pay certainly does exist so I'm suprised this woman got a Nobel Prize |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Weirdly enough I think a woman just won a Nobel prize for her work on proving women don’t get paid less due to sexism
What about male and female footballers ?
They have the fraction of the viewership and revenue, and get paid accordingly
Millions of men fill stadiums every week to watch other men play football and buy football related products. Once women start filling stadiums for the woman’s games I’m sure the pay will catch up
I totally agree with you. I was just giving it as an example that in some professions unequal pay certainly does exist so I'm suprised this woman got a Nobel Prize"
She’s not saying the gender gap doesn’t exist, she’s dismissed the idea that it’s largely based on sexism and is instead largely based around choices made about children
For the longest time it’s been said women get paid less got the same job because of sexism and slowly the evidence has been showing otherwise |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought "
We as a couple actually agree with you.. I as a male wouldn't entertain the entrance fee if I was a single male and the wife wouldn't freeload to get in if she was a single fem, she likes to pay her way. |
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women?
Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men
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So people here are whining about £10 to £30 for the opportunity to scratch their itch?
Christ on a dildo. I hate humans.
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women?
Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men
Very tempted to just find another single guy outside the venue and go in as a couple, although I don’t think we’d get away with it "
Couples normally pay more than women, usually closer to single man's rate. At my local club, it's £15 for single lady, £35 for a couple and £45 for a single man, for most events. With £20 lifetime membership. |
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women?
Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men
Very tempted to just find another single guy outside the venue and go in as a couple, although I don’t think we’d get away with it
Couples normally pay more than women, usually closer to single man's rate. At my local club, it's £15 for single lady, £35 for a couple and £45 for a single man, for most events. With £20 lifetime membership. "
So that’s £17.50 each for the couple, not closer to the single guys rate
Do they apply the same cost to any couple? I get the feeling 2 guys might get charged as 2 singles instead of a couple |
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I understand
If their was no deterrent, your club would be a total Sausage Fest & would die.
I’m there to “get some”, I don’t give a crap about gender equality in this instance.
In fact, they made a song about it...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4zSAGBDdCfU
Everybody sing!
WE NEED SOME MORE GIRLS IN HERE!
WE NEED SOME MORE GIRLS IN HERE! |
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"Paying over the odds to enter a club for a chance to be called a wanker.
Me thinks not."
My local club Quest charges single men £20 for daytime and £25 evenings except Greedy Girls events are £30.
I don't consider that extortionate |
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women?
Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men
Very tempted to just find another single guy outside the venue and go in as a couple, although I don’t think we’d get away with it
Couples normally pay more than women, usually closer to single man's rate. At my local club, it's £15 for single lady, £35 for a couple and £45 for a single man, for most events. With £20 lifetime membership.
So that’s £17.50 each for the couple, not closer to the single guys rate
Do they apply the same cost to any couple? I get the feeling 2 guys might get charged as 2 singles instead of a couple "
I'm afraid for the purpose of swingers club entry, a "couple" is defined as a man and a woman. But I'd guess some clubs or events may consider a "couple" a man and a TV? |
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"Yeah true that.
Bit like paying women less in jobs innit
It would be if such things happened..
They do
I have had 7 full time employments in my 43 years of working, both private and public sector. In all of them I had female colleagues doing the same jobs as me. They received exactly the same salary as me, in fact in two jobs they attracted extra payments and concessions because they were women.
If you are talking about executive type positions where salaries are influenced by far more than just gender you may have some argument, for the miniscule number of women that actually affects.
I really really really wish that men would do just the modicum of reading before starting on this topic. The gender pay gap is NOT about women earning less doing the precise same job as a male counterpart as ...of course ....that is illegal now. It's about structural sexism.
“ She ultimately concludes that the current wage gap is predominantly due to the impact of having children”
Seems it’s more about choices made, not sexism "
She analysed 200 years of data. Looked at the structural reasons that exist which perpetuate a gender pay gap. Won the Nobel Prize for Economics.
But Wokingham on Fab has all the answers. |
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"How much are we talking about here? What’s the typical entry fee to a club for single men compared to women?
Depends on the club but typically I’ve seen 10-20 for women and couples and 30-50 for single men
Very tempted to just find another single guy outside the venue and go in as a couple, although I don’t think we’d get away with it
Couples normally pay more than women, usually closer to single man's rate. At my local club, it's £15 for single lady, £35 for a couple and £45 for a single man, for most events. With £20 lifetime membership.
So that’s £17.50 each for the couple, not closer to the single guys rate
Do they apply the same cost to any couple? I get the feeling 2 guys might get charged as 2 singles instead of a couple
I'm afraid for the purpose of swingers club entry, a "couple" is defined as a man and a woman. But I'd guess some clubs or events may consider a "couple" a man and a TV? "
In that case I’ll just identify as a woman for the day
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In my local kink scene, there is nothing like this at all. Everyone pays their way equally and affordably to all events. The difference is, the community works on vetting people through a network of socials and having dedicated hosting and staff teams at socials and events. Events also typically have more formal, kinky, or smart-casual dress codes. This helps to keep the numbers of bad men down by a lot because they know they have to put in actual time and effort rather than opening their wallets for access
I go to FemDom events. FemDom sort of suffers with the same problem. Flooded with men with bad attitudes, low standards, fake subs, and the like
FemDom events typically put these men off by throwing them with a big list of rules and minor protocols before they even sign up. Dommes get priority on seating. Dommes get first pick of the buffet. One I go to has an area where subs are only allowed to crawl. And it feels like these actually work because it makes the fakers show that they aren't actually interested in making themselves lesser to women on the women's terms. It also gives the genuine subs an environment where they can go to and not be automatically treated with suspicion
These things are never foolproof but they do definitely seem to cut out a lot of the bad ones from attending just generally
So maybe single guys in swingers clubs/events could also be hit with a list of rules and protocols? Because then it could potentially keep away the wrong ones. And those of us who are genuine would have no issue with adhereing to them out of respect
Not that I'm saying the swingers scene should start promoting FemDom but I certainly wouldn't mind lol
I'm not saying any of what I just said is an alternative answer to the Single Guy Tax™. Those things cost time, effort, and money. I'm hoping it will be regarded as food for thought. Men with low standards and bad attitudes need more deterrents so they can identify the problems within themselves and change. Otherwise they can all just sod off to Incel Land and stay there forever for all I care |
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"If I have missed the point here, I apologise. That was just my opinion on it"
I thought it was a great point. Ultimately single guy taxes won’t limit the number of guys trying to attend, or increase the quality of the type of guy coming. |
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"Just a thought. We all agree that a club, in order to commercially survive should keep the ratio men women to a acceptable level but dont you think that charging single men 3/4 times more than women because of their gender, could be seen as a breach of the equality act 2010? As i said it is just a thought
Do you have an alternative suggestion that would keep clubs funded and help balance the men:women ratio? "
Clubs obviously need income and guys want to go because of the prospect of single ladies and couples. I suppose you could limit the number of single men and make this list exclusive. Charge everyone the same with the hope single ladies and couples will pay more for an environment with favorable ratios and hope of a better quality of etiquette, behaviour and quality. However I don't see how fixing the ratio will help the situation for the majority of single guys as they find themselves either excluded due to numbers or still paying the say if they get on the list?
Not a situation we'd favour btw, just playing devil's advocate. |
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"If I have missed the point here, I apologise. That was just my opinion on it
I thought it was a great point. Ultimately single guy taxes won’t limit the number of guys trying to attend, or increase the quality of the type of guy coming."
It won't. If you look at the prices of some clubs guys will fork out whatever if they think there is good prospect of getting laid or seeing some great action at a club. However couples and single ladies tend to be less hungry or driven by the same drive towards clubs. So they are less likely to pay high prices or if they will pay higher prices less likely to go as frequently.
So regardless of if you charge £5 or £50 entry guys will come if your club has a good reputation for a good numbers of females and action (single or as part of couples). However you may find your club lacking in everything if you don't incentify women into a club. Likewise you may find a club pretty broke if you don't bring in enough revenue and that probably won't work if you charge couples and single ladies high prices when there is plenty of other clubs who won't. |
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"Paying over the odds to enter a club for a chance to be called a wanker.
Me thinks not.
My local club Quest charges single men £20 for daytime and £25 evenings except Greedy Girls events are £30.
I don't consider that extortionate"
To be fair Club Uniquez (formally Amigos) Leicester City Centre has always had fairly even pricing since its been open.
Currently
£10 membership for all
Entry price: (Afternoon until 4pm)
M/F Couples: £10
Females: £3
Men: £10
TV/TS: £10
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Entry price: (Evenings 4pm onwards)
M/F Couples: £12
Females: £5
Men: £15
TV/TS: £15
Which fairly reasonable for all really.
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"If I have missed the point here, I apologise. That was just my opinion on it
I thought it was a great point. Ultimately single guy taxes won’t limit the number of guys trying to attend, or increase the quality of the type of guy coming.
It won't. If you look at the prices of some clubs guys will fork out whatever if they think there is good prospect of getting laid or seeing some great action at a club. However couples and single ladies tend to be less hungry or driven by the same drive towards clubs. So they are less likely to pay high prices or if they will pay higher prices less likely to go as frequently.
So regardless of if you charge £5 or £50 entry guys will come if your club has a good reputation for a good numbers of females and action (single or as part of couples). However you may find your club lacking in everything if you don't incentify women into a club. Likewise you may find a club pretty broke if you don't bring in enough revenue and that probably won't work if you charge couples and single ladies high prices when there is plenty of other clubs who won't."
Absolutely, the question is how many good quality guys are going to be put off at £50 entry fee vs desperate creepy guys put off by it?
I’d guess quality guts don’t need to pay £50 to get a chance to get laid and so won’t, where as desperate creepy guys are desperate and will take the hit to their wallet
If your a good looking dude with some decent chat you can get laid in spoons with zero entry fee |
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"If I have missed the point here, I apologise. That was just my opinion on it
I thought it was a great point. Ultimately single guy taxes won’t limit the number of guys trying to attend, or increase the quality of the type of guy coming.
It won't. If you look at the prices of some clubs guys will fork out whatever if they think there is good prospect of getting laid or seeing some great action at a club. However couples and single ladies tend to be less hungry or driven by the same drive towards clubs. So they are less likely to pay high prices or if they will pay higher prices less likely to go as frequently.
So regardless of if you charge £5 or £50 entry guys will come if your club has a good reputation for a good numbers of females and action (single or as part of couples). However you may find your club lacking in everything if you don't incentify women into a club. Likewise you may find a club pretty broke if you don't bring in enough revenue and that probably won't work if you charge couples and single ladies high prices when there is plenty of other clubs who won't.
Absolutely, the question is how many good quality guys are going to be put off at £50 entry fee vs desperate creepy guys put off by it?
I’d guess quality guts don’t need to pay £50 to get a chance to get laid and so won’t, where as desperate creepy guys are desperate and will take the hit to their wallet
If your a good looking dude with some decent chat you can get laid in spoons with zero entry fee"
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"If I have missed the point here, I apologise. That was just my opinion on it
I thought it was a great point. Ultimately single guy taxes won’t limit the number of guys trying to attend, or increase the quality of the type of guy coming.
It won't. If you look at the prices of some clubs guys will fork out whatever if they think there is good prospect of getting laid or seeing some great action at a club. However couples and single ladies tend to be less hungry or driven by the same drive towards clubs. So they are less likely to pay high prices or if they will pay higher prices less likely to go as frequently.
So regardless of if you charge £5 or £50 entry guys will come if your club has a good reputation for a good numbers of females and action (single or as part of couples). However you may find your club lacking in everything if you don't incentify women into a club. Likewise you may find a club pretty broke if you don't bring in enough revenue and that probably won't work if you charge couples and single ladies high prices when there is plenty of other clubs who won't.
Absolutely, the question is how many good quality guys are going to be put off at £50 entry fee vs desperate creepy guys put off by it?
I’d guess quality guts don’t need to pay £50 to get a chance to get laid and so won’t, where as desperate creepy guys are desperate and will take the hit to their wallet
If your a good looking dude with some decent chat you can get laid in spoons with zero entry fee"
Wow!  I'm of to spoons tomoz for the pensioners coffee morning! They love them refill coffees! Will look out for anyone getting laid in there! x |
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supply/demand it’ll never change 
