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"People of all genders lie. Obviously you've had some bad experiences dating (which is common for everyone) and you're right to be annoyed, but directing your angst at *women* - and not, y'know, the person who deceived you - is emotionally immature." Not directing any anger towards women I’m a straight man who is interested in women if this was a guy I’d say the exact same thing but it’s not so it’s not really emotionally immature I mean I’ve had women many times agree to meet then an hour later they block you a lot just want the attention like a drug to them | |||
"I agree you are making some generalisations, might be worth reflecting on. Otherwise you are going into future engagements with preconceived ideas. You asked her to be straight with you looks like you are saying she wasn't. She doesn't meet your threshold for honesty. Better now than later. She was open with you about her issues and I can tell you that PTSD is not easy to live with. If I feel like someone doesn't really get it, I pull away. I'd still say something if asked for a straight answer. Having to explain to someone why your PTSD would be an issue with them to the nth degree can be very unpleasant and quite distressing. Those moments can sting pretty hard. I can understand the avoidance." It was more the “I have all this going on so not looking to date right now” and then I week ish later her fb profile pops up and says she’s in a relationship that’s the bit I did get annoyed with what it should of said was “I’m not looking to date you right now but this other guy who’s come along well all my problems are pushed to the side for him” that’s the honest answer obviously not going to say that I was just being sarcastic | |||
"Well said he sounds very desperate chasing someone that is not worth the time and the tell tale signs were there " I wouldn’t say desperate bro | |||
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"Sorry ladies this is a bit of a rant getting a few things off my chest if you’re easily offended please scroll on So here’s a short story matched with a 29yr old woman on tinder very pretty so we get chatting etc eventually move to WhatsApp chatting some more few voice notes I say we should get coffee and meet up she says yes so I start planning the date day time etc then the dreaded no response comes so I’m like oh yeah this shit again wait a few days hit her up again don’t here anything so give a couple new days and I hit up with “let me know if I should stop trying and I’ll never message you again” so she replies saying she’s been having a bad time she’s got ptsd with chronic back pain so she drinks a lot so I’m very understanding and like we can sort something out soon when you’re feeling a bit better chat a bit more I don’t message her for a week and here nothing cause obviously women never message first so fast forward a week which is this week her profile pops up on my Facebook and what you know it says in a relationship and tagged with the guys name so my question is ladies why not just be honest instead of coming up with a stupid bs excuse a simple “hey sorry I’ve actually started seeing someone else” at least you’ve been honest about it yeah might be a bit down but least you’ve been upfront and honest which is all you can do and I respect and like people who are honest I had a similar thing with a 34yr old on here you expect stuff like that from 19-22yr olds not more mature women anyway ladies be better and be honest with guys don’t give out bull shit excuses if you’ve met someone else or lost interest be upfront and honest that’s all you can do rant over thanks for reading "And breathe!  | |||
"Well said he sounds very desperate chasing someone that is not worth the time and the tell tale signs were there I wouldn’t say desperate bro" The need to get it off your chest publicly does kinda show it affected you a lot. I don't think I could ever have been so invested in someone I've never physically met. Personally for me when the conversation gets dry or the "excuses" why dates/meets can't happen. I look elsewhere. | |||
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"As soon as sense hardly any effort with their messages just stop texting and move on mate your decent looking bloke going off your pictures plent others out there " This x1000 The more guys simp and accept low effort the more low effort will be given Hold them to a higher standard and you’ll receive a higher standard | |||
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"Sorry ladies this is a bit of a rant getting a few things off my chest if you’re easily offended please scroll on So here’s a short story matched with a 29yr old woman on tinder very pretty so we get chatting etc eventually move to WhatsApp chatting some more few voice notes I say we should get coffee and meet up she says yes so I start planning the date day time etc then the dreaded no response comes so I’m like oh yeah this shit again wait a few days hit her up again don’t here anything so give a couple new days and I hit up with “let me know if I should stop trying and I’ll never message you again” so she replies saying she’s been having a bad time she’s got ptsd with chronic back pain so she drinks a lot so I’m very understanding and like we can sort something out soon when you’re feeling a bit better chat a bit more I don’t message her for a week and here nothing cause obviously women never message first so fast forward a week which is this week her profile pops up on my Facebook and what you know it says in a relationship and tagged with the guys name so my question is ladies why not just be honest instead of coming up with a stupid bs excuse a simple “hey sorry I’ve actually started seeing someone else” at least you’ve been honest about it yeah might be a bit down but least you’ve been upfront and honest which is all you can do and I respect and like people who are honest I had a similar thing with a 34yr old on here you expect stuff like that from 19-22yr olds not more mature women anyway ladies be better and be honest with guys don’t give out bull shit excuses if you’ve met someone else or lost interest be upfront and honest that’s all you can do rant over thanks for reading "Have a wank it's easier | |||
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"Also. You hadn’t met her in person, but already had access to her FB? There’s some serious boundaries crossed right there! I am not implying that you were deliberately crossing them, she may have offered that information. That would be a massive red flag in my book." When you are given a phone number and start chatting on WhatsApp then likelihood is that they’ll then pop up as a potential friend on the book of face. That’s why we don’t give our number out and chat on Telegram - too much is revealed when you give your number out. K | |||
"Also. You hadn’t met her in person, but already had access to her FB? There’s some serious boundaries crossed right there! I am not implying that you were deliberately crossing them, she may have offered that information. That would be a massive red flag in my book." I'm not defending the OP but I do think it's worth pointing out that data on apps links and gets shared in a way that means people on fab or other apps can show up in suggested friends for you on FB and other places. You don't even need to go looking, the data and platforms does it for you these days. | |||
"Also. You hadn’t met her in person, but already had access to her FB? There’s some serious boundaries crossed right there! I am not implying that you were deliberately crossing them, she may have offered that information. That would be a massive red flag in my book. When you are given a phone number and start chatting on WhatsApp then likelihood is that they’ll then pop up as a potential friend on the book of face. That’s why we don’t give our number out and chat on Telegram - too much is revealed when you give your number out. K" What he said ^ | |||
"Sorry ladies this is a bit of a rant getting a few things off my chest if you’re easily offended please scroll on So here’s a short story matched with a 29yr old woman on tinder very pretty so we get chatting etc eventually move to WhatsApp chatting some more few voice notes I say we should get coffee and meet up she says yes so I start planning the date day time etc then the dreaded no response comes so I’m like oh yeah this shit again wait a few days hit her up again don’t here anything so give a couple new days and I hit up with “let me know if I should stop trying and I’ll never message you again” so she replies saying she’s been having a bad time she’s got ptsd with chronic back pain so she drinks a lot so I’m very understanding and like we can sort something out soon when you’re feeling a bit better chat a bit more I don’t message her for a week and here nothing cause obviously women never message first so fast forward a week which is this week her profile pops up on my Facebook and what you know it says in a relationship and tagged with the guys name so my question is ladies why not just be honest instead of coming up with a stupid bs excuse a simple “hey sorry I’ve actually started seeing someone else” at least you’ve been honest about it yeah might be a bit down but least you’ve been upfront and honest which is all you can do and I respect and like people who are honest I had a similar thing with a 34yr old on here you expect stuff like that from 19-22yr olds not more mature women anyway ladies be better and be honest with guys don’t give out bull shit excuses if you’ve met someone else or lost interest be upfront and honest that’s all you can do rant over thanks for reading "Things happen op. Good bad or bs situations just overide it. Let it pass, on here you can block people. As for other apps do the same, move on. | |||
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"Sorry ladies this is a bit of a rant getting a few things off my chest if you’re easily offended please scroll on So here’s a short story matched with a 29yr old woman on tinder very pretty so we get chatting etc eventually move to WhatsApp chatting some more few voice notes I say we should get coffee and meet up she says yes so I start planning the date day time etc then the dreaded no response comes so I’m like oh yeah this shit again wait a few days hit her up again don’t here anything so give a couple new days and I hit up with “let me know if I should stop trying and I’ll never message you again” so she replies saying she’s been having a bad time she’s got ptsd with chronic back pain so she drinks a lot so I’m very understanding and like we can sort something out soon when you’re feeling a bit better chat a bit more I don’t message her for a week and here nothing cause obviously women never message first so fast forward a week which is this week her profile pops up on my Facebook and what you know it says in a relationship and tagged with the guys name so my question is ladies why not just be honest instead of coming up with a stupid bs excuse a simple “hey sorry I’ve actually started seeing someone else” at least you’ve been honest about it yeah might be a bit down but least you’ve been upfront and honest which is all you can do and I respect and like people who are honest I had a similar thing with a 34yr old on here you expect stuff like that from 19-22yr olds not more mature women anyway ladies be better and be honest with guys don’t give out bull shit excuses if you’ve met someone else or lost interest be upfront and honest that’s all you can do rant over thanks for reading "Shouldn't this be titled "people being honest" Some people on here are in relationships and lie about it Nothing to do with gender Just block her and move on She clearly thinks she has done nothing wrong so there would be no point in speaking to her about it | |||
"People of all genders lie. Obviously you've had some bad experiences dating (which is common for everyone) and you're right to be annoyed, but directing your angst at *women* - and not, y'know, the person who deceived you - is emotionally immature. Not directing any anger towards women I’m a straight man who is interested in women if this was a guy I’d say the exact same thing but it’s not so it’s not really emotionally immature I mean I’ve had women many times agree to meet then an hour later they block you a lot just want the attention like a drug to them " We can all read your words, the only person you're fooling is yourself. | |||
"thanks for reading "I didn’t , way too much text and no line breaks - but I sincerely hope whatever it is gets fixed for you  | |||
"Sorry ladies this is a bit of a rant getting a few things off my chest if you’re easily offended please scroll on So here’s a short story matched with a 29yr old woman on tinder very pretty so we get chatting etc eventually move to WhatsApp chatting some more few voice notes I say we should get coffee and meet up she says yes so I start planning the date day time etc then the dreaded no response comes so I’m like oh yeah this shit again wait a few days hit her up again don’t here anything so give a couple new days and I hit up with “let me know if I should stop trying and I’ll never message you again” so she replies saying she’s been having a bad time she’s got ptsd with chronic back pain so she drinks a lot so I’m very understanding and like we can sort something out soon when you’re feeling a bit better chat a bit more I don’t message her for a week and here nothing cause obviously women never message first so fast forward a week which is this week her profile pops up on my Facebook and what you know it says in a relationship and tagged with the guys name so my question is ladies why not just be honest instead of coming up with a stupid bs excuse a simple “hey sorry I’ve actually started seeing someone else” at least you’ve been honest about it yeah might be a bit down but least you’ve been upfront and honest which is all you can do and I respect and like people who are honest I had a similar thing with a 34yr old on here you expect stuff like that from 19-22yr olds not more mature women anyway ladies be better and be honest with guys don’t give out bull shit excuses if you’ve met someone else or lost interest be upfront and honest that’s all you can do rant over thanks for reading "You said this was a short story! Jokes. Light humour for you. Both sexes lie. Though not everyone does. Maybe try organised socials? Meeting genuine people without all the messaging probs the best thing I've done recently Hope your okay after your rant. Sometimes writing these things down on paper and then scrunching it in a ball in the bin helps myself. Just an if you ever fancy a rant less public. | |||
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"Sorry ladies this is a bit of a rant getting a few things off my chest if you’re easily offended please scroll on So here’s a short story matched with a 29yr old woman on tinder very pretty so we get chatting etc eventually move to WhatsApp chatting some more few voice notes I say we should get coffee and meet up she says yes so I start planning the date day time etc then the dreaded no response comes so I’m like oh yeah this shit again wait a few days hit her up again don’t here anything so give a couple new days and I hit up with “let me know if I should stop trying and I’ll never message you again” so she replies saying she’s been having a bad time she’s got ptsd with chronic back pain so she drinks a lot so I’m very understanding and like we can sort something out soon when you’re feeling a bit better chat a bit more I don’t message her for a week and here nothing cause obviously women never message first so fast forward a week which is this week her profile pops up on my Facebook and what you know it says in a relationship and tagged with the guys name so my question is ladies why not just be honest instead of coming up with a stupid bs excuse a simple “hey sorry I’ve actually started seeing someone else” at least you’ve been honest about it yeah might be a bit down but least you’ve been upfront and honest which is all you can do and I respect and like people who are honest I had a similar thing with a 34yr old on here you expect stuff like that from 19-22yr olds not more mature women anyway ladies be better and be honest with guys don’t give out bull shit excuses if you’ve met someone else or lost interest be upfront and honest that’s all you can do rant over thanks for reading "Who’s idea was it to move chat to WhatsApp? I won’t ever chat on WhatsApp with anyone I haven’t met any more. Did it once and ended up getting bombarded with scam calls and texts. (Please Don’t condemn me for that. You don’t know the full story) Thankfully I found an app to block known scam calls. I think your lucky. It could have been worse. | |||
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"Most women like to think they are honest but are they? "Yep I most certainly am | |||
"Also. You hadn’t met her in person, but already had access to her FB? There’s some serious boundaries crossed right there! I am not implying that you were deliberately crossing them, she may have offered that information. That would be a massive red flag in my book." When you have someone’s number on your phone if they have fb there profile can pop up the “people you may know” section if you have fb you would of seen this so no boundaries crossed | |||
"People of all genders lie. Obviously you've had some bad experiences dating (which is common for everyone) and you're right to be annoyed, but directing your angst at *women* - and not, y'know, the person who deceived you - is emotionally immature. Not directing any anger towards women I’m a straight man who is interested in women if this was a guy I’d say the exact same thing but it’s not so it’s not really emotionally immature I mean I’ve had women many times agree to meet then an hour later they block you a lot just want the attention like a drug to them We can all read your words, the only person you're fooling is yourself." Well that’s your opinion I respectfully disagree but hey we are all different | |||
"Op.. This was tinder.. Right? " Initially on tinder yes | |||
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"You really shouldn't be posting the contebt of personal messages on the forum, whether they're from fab or elsewhere, not to mention the fact that discussing other web sites is also against the rules. Airing your dirty laundry in the forums is not cool and should really be kept between the two of you. Not to mention the red flags you're throwing up for any potential meets on here about ypur lack of discretion " Well I certainly have no idea who the third party the OP is talking about is, and there’s always generic “shitty message” whinge threads on here so I think he’s all good from my perspective. Carry on OP | |||
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"Sorry ladies this is a bit of a rant getting a few things off my chest if you’re easily offended please scroll on So here’s a short story matched with a 29yr old woman on tinder very pretty so we get chatting etc eventually move to WhatsApp chatting some more few voice notes I say we should get coffee and meet up she says yes so I start planning the date day time etc then the dreaded no response comes so I’m like oh yeah this shit again wait a few days hit her up again don’t here anything so give a couple new days and I hit up with “let me know if I should stop trying and I’ll never message you again” so she replies saying she’s been having a bad time she’s got ptsd with chronic back pain so she drinks a lot so I’m very understanding and like we can sort something out soon when you’re feeling a bit better chat a bit more I don’t message her for a week and here nothing cause obviously women never message first so fast forward a week which is this week her profile pops up on my Facebook and what you know it says in a relationship and tagged with the guys name so my question is ladies why not just be honest instead of coming up with a stupid bs excuse a simple “hey sorry I’ve actually started seeing someone else” at least you’ve been honest about it yeah might be a bit down but least you’ve been upfront and honest which is all you can do and I respect and like people who are honest I had a similar thing with a 34yr old on here you expect stuff like that from 19-22yr olds not more mature women anyway ladies be better and be honest with guys don’t give out bull shit excuses if you’ve met someone else or lost interest be upfront and honest that’s all you can do rant over thanks for reading
". I wouldn't say "ladies be better and be honest" over this. She never even gave you any date, she just gave you an excuse for going silent when it turned out she probably/maybe should've left it, or perhaps said something else. But you can't be sure of her timeline anyway. It's good to be mature and honest but it's hardly mature to throw the net over something like this. Tbh you could have a pretty rough time on Fab if you don't build something of a skin for this kind of thing. Ghosting it's generally called, it just happens. Saying "obviously women never message first" doesn't make a lot of sense to me either, but I assume that is just some more sour grapes rather than an indication that all those WA messages were maybe a little led from the front. Plenty more fish in the sea OP. pt | |||
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"Sorry ladies this is a bit of a rant getting a few things off my chest if you’re easily offended please scroll on So here’s a short story matched with a 29yr old woman on tinder very pretty so we get chatting etc eventually move to WhatsApp chatting some more few voice notes I say we should get coffee and meet up she says yes so I start planning the date day time etc then the dreaded no response comes so I’m like oh yeah this shit again wait a few days hit her up again don’t here anything so give a couple new days and I hit up with “let me know if I should stop trying and I’ll never message you again” so she replies saying she’s been having a bad time she’s got ptsd with chronic back pain so she drinks a lot so I’m very understanding and like we can sort something out soon when you’re feeling a bit better chat a bit more I don’t message her for a week and here nothing cause obviously women never message first so fast forward a week which is this week her profile pops up on my Facebook and what you know it says in a relationship and tagged with the guys name so my question is ladies why not just be honest instead of coming up with a stupid bs excuse a simple “hey sorry I’ve actually started seeing someone else” at least you’ve been honest about it yeah might be a bit down but least you’ve been upfront and honest which is all you can do and I respect and like people who are honest I had a similar thing with a 34yr old on here you expect stuff like that from 19-22yr olds not more mature women anyway ladies be better and be honest with guys don’t give out bull shit excuses if you’ve met someone else or lost interest be upfront and honest that’s all you can do rant over thanks for reading "Soz OP, if you could break that down into paragraphs.... It maybe easier to read...... | |||
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"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with." That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. | |||
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"Just do yourself a favour and stop being understanding. Women don't deserve a second chance, and it's not worth giving them. I did, thinking they'll come around but they just don't. And if they do, they are problems in the future. Just need to keep getting out there and try try try until you find the rare ones, who don't cancel on dates with flimsy excuses. But don't get your hopes up 99,9% of them will always have a last minute emergency. The ones who are really interested but something happened for real (no excuse), they will try to reschedule. And not just "sometime" but they offer actual alternatives like "let's do this again on tuesday" or something. But that basically never happens. Don't respond. They know what they are doing, and there is no way you should play their games, understanding or angry or whatever. You only win, if you don't play. Ignore their excuses, delete the chat entirely (if you keep reading it, you might send something stupid). If she actually comes around, she will message you again. (but again: This is not going to happen, so stop hoping. THis is not a method to change her mind, but a method for YOURSELF on how to deal with it and get to terms with it) Just date other women, if you have none, do your best to find some, and if you really still don't find anyone, get a nice fleshlight with a shower mount. Flimsy women are about as good as a nice, wet artificial shower fuck "Well ain't you just a bundle of joy, all love n light n shit..... | |||
"Just do yourself a favour and stop being understanding. Women don't deserve a second chance, and it's not worth giving them. I did, thinking they'll come around but they just don't. And if they do, they are problems in the future. Just need to keep getting out there and try try try until you find the rare ones, who don't cancel on dates with flimsy excuses. But don't get your hopes up 99,9% of them will always have a last minute emergency. The ones who are really interested but something happened for real (no excuse), they will try to reschedule. And not just "sometime" but they offer actual alternatives like "let's do this again on tuesday" or something. But that basically never happens. Don't respond. They know what they are doing, and there is no way you should play their games, understanding or angry or whatever. You only win, if you don't play. Ignore their excuses, delete the chat entirely (if you keep reading it, you might send something stupid). If she actually comes around, she will message you again. (but again: This is not going to happen, so stop hoping. THis is not a method to change her mind, but a method for YOURSELF on how to deal with it and get to terms with it) Just date other women, if you have none, do your best to find some, and if you really still don't find anyone, get a nice fleshlight with a shower mount. Flimsy women are about as good as a nice, wet artificial shower fuck
Well ain't you just a bundle of joy, all love n light n shit....."What were you expecting? "Oh, just keep trying. maybe she'll grace you with a glimpse in your direction one day, we need to treat all women like queens and kiss the boots that kick us." Sorry man. If they flake with some BS, then good riddance. There are no second chances, unless she really puts all the effort in to make up for it. Everything else is not acceptable. | |||
"Just do yourself a favour and stop being understanding. Women don't deserve a second chance, and it's not worth giving them. I did, thinking they'll come around but they just don't. And if they do, they are problems in the future. Just need to keep getting out there and try try try until you find the rare ones, who don't cancel on dates with flimsy excuses. But don't get your hopes up 99,9% of them will always have a last minute emergency. The ones who are really interested but something happened for real (no excuse), they will try to reschedule. And not just "sometime" but they offer actual alternatives like "let's do this again on tuesday" or something. But that basically never happens. Don't respond. They know what they are doing, and there is no way you should play their games, understanding or angry or whatever. You only win, if you don't play. Ignore their excuses, delete the chat entirely (if you keep reading it, you might send something stupid). If she actually comes around, she will message you again. (but again: This is not going to happen, so stop hoping. THis is not a method to change her mind, but a method for YOURSELF on how to deal with it and get to terms with it) Just date other women, if you have none, do your best to find some, and if you really still don't find anyone, get a nice fleshlight with a shower mount. Flimsy women are about as good as a nice, wet artificial shower fuck
Well ain't you just a bundle of joy, all love n light n shit.....
What were you expecting? "Oh, just keep trying. maybe she'll grace you with a glimpse in your direction one day, we need to treat all women like queens and kiss the boots that kick us."
Sorry man. If they flake with some BS, then good riddance. There are no second chances, unless she really puts all the effort in to make up for it. Everything else is not acceptable."I'm.just saying you're a bundle if joy, I carry no expectations | |||
"Just do yourself a favour and stop being understanding. Women don't deserve a second chance, and it's not worth giving them. I did, thinking they'll come around but they just don't. And if they do, they are problems in the future. Just need to keep getting out there and try try try until you find the rare ones, who don't cancel on dates with flimsy excuses. But don't get your hopes up 99,9% of them will always have a last minute emergency. The ones who are really interested but something happened for real (no excuse), they will try to reschedule. And not just "sometime" but they offer actual alternatives like "let's do this again on tuesday" or something. But that basically never happens. Don't respond. They know what they are doing, and there is no way you should play their games, understanding or angry or whatever. You only win, if you don't play. Ignore their excuses, delete the chat entirely (if you keep reading it, you might send something stupid). If she actually comes around, she will message you again. (but again: This is not going to happen, so stop hoping. THis is not a method to change her mind, but a method for YOURSELF on how to deal with it and get to terms with it) Just date other women, if you have none, do your best to find some, and if you really still don't find anyone, get a nice fleshlight with a shower mount. Flimsy women are about as good as a nice, wet artificial shower fuck
Well ain't you just a bundle of joy, all love n light n shit.....
What were you expecting? "Oh, just keep trying. maybe she'll grace you with a glimpse in your direction one day, we need to treat all women like queens and kiss the boots that kick us."
Sorry man. If they flake with some BS, then good riddance. There are no second chances, unless she really puts all the effort in to make up for it. Everything else is not acceptable."Plenty of more fish in the sea for a sailor | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. " Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is | |||
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"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. " Are you attracting good (ie normal everyday) women do you think? If you display in 'real life' the kind of casual misogyny you have shown on this forum I would think most of them would run a mile. pt | |||
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"Also. You hadn’t met her in person, but already had access to her FB? There’s some serious boundaries crossed right there! I am not implying that you were deliberately crossing them, she may have offered that information. That would be a massive red flag in my book. When you have someone’s number on your phone if they have fb there profile can pop up the “people you may know” section if you have fb you would of seen this so no boundaries crossed " Which implies that they had exchanged numbers. I don’t exchange my number with strangers. Plus my FB is locked down tight. | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is " Right. Blame me, when they make excuses. Women who get r aped, are also at fault for wearing sexy clothing, right? Right? | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Are you attracting good (ie normal everyday) women do you think? If you display in 'real life' the kind of casual misogyny you have shown on this forum I would think most of them would run a mile. pt" People throw the word "misogynist" around way too lightly. I am not a misogynist. What have I said? "Don't deserve a second chance if they yank you round" and "focus on yourself" and "women who are flakey are not worth having in your life". Oh my, what a misogynist I am, eh? And yeah, I know a lot of women who aren't like that and don't play stupid games of lies and ghosting with men. But it's still very common, too common. | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Are you attracting good (ie normal everyday) women do you think? If you display in 'real life' the kind of casual misogyny you have shown on this forum I would think most of them would run a mile. pt People throw the word "misogynist" around way too lightly. I am not a misogynist. What have I said? "Don't deserve a second chance if they yank you round" and "focus on yourself" and "women who are flakey are not worth having in your life". Oh my, what a misogynist I am, eh? And yeah, I know a lot of women who aren't like that and don't play stupid games of lies and ghosting with men. But it's still very common, too common." I don't think pt just means this thread... | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Are you attracting good (ie normal everyday) women do you think? If you display in 'real life' the kind of casual misogyny you have shown on this forum I would think most of them would run a mile. pt People throw the word "misogynist" around way too lightly. I am not a misogynist. What have I said? "Don't deserve a second chance if they yank you round" and "focus on yourself" and "women who are flakey are not worth having in your life". Oh my, what a misogynist I am, eh? And yeah, I know a lot of women who aren't like that and don't play stupid games of lies and ghosting with men. But it's still very common, too common. I don't think pt just means this thread..." You're blocked. Stop breaking the rules by communicating | |||
"Sorry ladies this is a bit of a rant getting a few things off my chest if you’re easily offended please scroll on So here’s a short story matched with a 29yr old woman on tinder very pretty so we get chatting etc eventually move to WhatsApp chatting some more few voice notes I say we should get coffee and meet up she says yes so I start planning the date day time etc then the dreaded no response comes so I’m like oh yeah this shit again wait a few days hit her up again don’t here anything so give a couple new days and I hit up with “let me know if I should stop trying and I’ll never message you again” so she replies saying she’s been having a bad time she’s got ptsd with chronic back pain so she drinks a lot so I’m very understanding and like we can sort something out soon when you’re feeling a bit better chat a bit more I don’t message her for a week and here nothing cause obviously women never message first so fast forward a week which is this week her profile pops up on my Facebook and what you know it says in a relationship and tagged with the guys name so my question is ladies why not just be honest instead of coming up with a stupid bs excuse a simple “hey sorry I’ve actually started seeing someone else” at least you’ve been honest about it yeah might be a bit down but least you’ve been upfront and honest which is all you can do and I respect and like people who are honest I had a similar thing with a 34yr old on here you expect stuff like that from 19-22yr olds not more mature women anyway ladies be better and be honest with guys don’t give out bull shit excuses if you’ve met someone else or lost interest be upfront and honest that’s all you can do rant over thanks for reading "Plenty more fish in the sea op. You will find this better to just shrug it off and go I will not let this get the better of me. Good luck in all you do Op. | |||
"You really shouldn't be posting the contebt of personal messages on the forum, whether they're from fab or elsewhere, not to mention the fact that discussing other web sites is also against the rules. Airing your dirty laundry in the forums is not cool and should really be kept between the two of you. Not to mention the red flags you're throwing up for any potential meets on here about ypur lack of discretion " Harsh, he's not given any names etc. The forums are for people to post about anything they like. People are just like this... for so many reasons, most of which we'll never understand. Advice from me would be to arrange a coffee within the first 2 weeks of chatting and don't exchange numbers until you've met. Don't invest so much into someone you haven't met, then it's a lot easier to let them go | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is Right. Blame me, when they make excuses. Women who get r aped, are also at fault for wearing sexy clothing, right? Right?" Dunno why you’ve brought that into it. Totally irrelevant. My point is if the women you meet are ‘flakey’ maybe it’s just you | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is "  | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is Right. Blame me, when they make excuses. Women who get r aped, are also at fault for wearing sexy clothing, right? Right? Dunno why you’ve brought that into it. Totally irrelevant. My point is if the women you meet are ‘flakey’ maybe it’s just you " Captain Bird's eye deals with some quality flaky goods.... | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is "It's 'common factor (and a common mistake), but was clever anyway lol. pt | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is
It's 'common factor (and a common mistake), but was clever anyway lol. pt"I stand corrected | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is Right. Blame me, when they make excuses. Women who get r aped, are also at fault for wearing sexy clothing, right? Right? Dunno why you’ve brought that into it. Totally irrelevant. My point is if the women you meet are ‘flakey’ maybe it’s just you " Yeah, but it's not just me. Don't throw common sense out of the window just because you don't want to admit, that may women do that. Like, drop the act. Seriously. There is no need to pretend that way, we all know that it's a common thing and has nothing to do with me individually. Stop pretending. Thanks. | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is Right. Blame me, when they make excuses. Women who get r aped, are also at fault for wearing sexy clothing, right? Right? Dunno why you’ve brought that into it. Totally irrelevant. My point is if the women you meet are ‘flakey’ maybe it’s just you Yeah, but it's not just me. Don't throw common sense out of the window just because you don't want to admit, that may women do that. Like, drop the act. Seriously. There is no need to pretend that way, we all know that it's a common thing and has nothing to do with me individually. Stop pretending. Thanks." Are you okay Caesar? No one’s pretending anything? I’m actually a woman so I can actually give a woman’s perspective… I’d make excuses to avoid abuse. I’d make excuses if I didn’t want to do something but was worried about how it would be received. If every woman you interact with becomes ‘flakey’ I think it’s a fair assumption that you are the problem. That’s not pretending, that’s evidence-based reporting is it not? Straight from the camels mouth, no? | |||
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"Flakiness exists on both sides but you’d only hear “your the problem” directed at one side and “his loss” directed at the other The double standards continue" Do you? Or do you only hear what you want to hear? | |||
"Flakiness exists on both sides but you’d only hear “your the problem” directed at one side and “his loss” directed at the other The double standards continue Do you? Or do you only hear what you want to hear?" Evidence based reporting mush. I wouldn’t expect someone involved with the double standard to understand | |||
"Flakiness exists on both sides but you’d only hear “your the problem” directed at one side and “his loss” directed at the other The double standards continue Do you? Or do you only hear what you want to hear? Evidence based reporting mush. I wouldn’t expect someone involved with the double standard to understand " Oh okay. I shall add ‘involved with the double standard’ to my cv | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is Right. Blame me, when they make excuses. Women who get r aped, are also at fault for wearing sexy clothing, right? Right? Dunno why you’ve brought that into it. Totally irrelevant. My point is if the women you meet are ‘flakey’ maybe it’s just you Yeah, but it's not just me. Don't throw common sense out of the window just because you don't want to admit, that may women do that. Like, drop the act. Seriously. There is no need to pretend that way, we all know that it's a common thing and has nothing to do with me individually. Stop pretending. Thanks. Are you okay Caesar? No one’s pretending anything? I’m actually a woman so I can actually give a woman’s perspective… I’d make excuses to avoid abuse. I’d make excuses if I didn’t want to do something but was worried about how it would be received. If every woman you interact with becomes ‘flakey’ I think it’s a fair assumption that you are the problem. That’s not pretending, that’s evidence-based reporting is it not? Straight from the camels mouth, no? " I would second this | |||
"Flakiness exists on both sides but you’d only hear “your the problem” directed at one side and “his loss” directed at the other The double standards continue Do you? Or do you only hear what you want to hear? Evidence based reporting mush. I wouldn’t expect someone involved with the double standard to understand Oh okay. I shall add ‘involved with the double standard’ to my cv " You getting double teamed here Fluffy, like a 3sum going on.....don't even bother arguing against this.....there's no point neither will move from their viewpoints on this. | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is
It's 'common factor (and a common mistake), but was clever anyway lol. pt
I stand corrected
". Actually it's me who should do that 
(before anyone else points it out lol. though it would serve me right for being pedantic!)
I just checked out of curiosity and it's entered dictionaries now as "also a fact or quality that is shared by two or more people or groups", through common-usage no doubt.
Basically in everyday language it means what you intended it to.
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"Flakiness exists on both sides but you’d only hear “your the problem” directed at one side and “his loss” directed at the other The double standards continue Do you? Or do you only hear what you want to hear? Evidence based reporting mush. I wouldn’t expect someone involved with the double standard to understand Oh okay. I shall add ‘involved with the double standard’ to my cv You getting double teamed here Fluffy, like a 3sum going on.....don't even bother arguing against this.....there's no point neither will move from their viewpoints on this." Very true! | |||
"I see it simply as a reflection of what the anonymous online world is. Generally speaking, people we actually meet and know in everyday life are far easier to communicate with. That doesn't reflect my experience. Women I meet in real life are the same flakey. Ever asked yourself what the common denominator is Right. Blame me, when they make excuses. Women who get r aped, are also at fault for wearing sexy clothing, right? Right? Dunno why you’ve brought that into it. Totally irrelevant. My point is if the women you meet are ‘flakey’ maybe it’s just you Yeah, but it's not just me. Don't throw common sense out of the window just because you don't want to admit, that may women do that. Like, drop the act. Seriously. There is no need to pretend that way, we all know that it's a common thing and has nothing to do with me individually. Stop pretending. Thanks. Are you okay Caesar? No one’s pretending anything? I’m actually a woman so I can actually give a woman’s perspective… I’d make excuses to avoid abuse. I’d make excuses if I didn’t want to do something but was worried about how it would be received. If every woman you interact with becomes ‘flakey’ I think it’s a fair assumption that you are the problem. That’s not pretending, that’s evidence-based reporting is it not? Straight from the camels mouth, no? " It's literally not evidence. And yes, you are pretending that it's only women doing that to me, which is not true. You also only know your own perspective, and you can't speak for other women. All you do right now is fake things to back your own narrative up. Many women are flaky, but not just to me. That's where the issue is with what you say, and I know you'd just have the best day of your life if you could somehow make it irrefutable that I am just an asshole, and that women in general are not like depicted here. Unfortunately, that won't happen because it's simply not true. You know it, I know it. Women give BS excuses last minute a lot, to many different men, even men they are interested in sometimes. It's just a very common thing and it's more about the woman than the man. You admitted it yourself, that you do it. Of course, in your narrative all men are evil, but you did admit it. Now, just because you say "I want to avoid abuse" doesn't mean you actually do it because of that. There are a plethora of possible reasons for why you just start making up things last minute before a meet. You maybe never even planned to actually go out, you just liked to play games. Or you made plans and then just couldn't be arsed to commit to it. Or you were too nervous to go. Weak knees and such. Women do it all the time to all sorts of men, it's not a me issue, it's a them issue. And generally speaking: If they flake once, don't give them a second chance. Never worth it. | |||
" Or you made plans and then just couldn't be arsed to commit to it. Or you were too nervous to go. Weak knees and such. Women do it all the time to all sorts of men, it's not a me issue, it's a them issue. " So, I'm going to interject here, call me a white Knight as much as you like I don't give two fucks, but drivel is drivel. She arranged to meet me for a social, she turned up on time in fact early. So that kinda disproves your point totally. About never intending to meet She's has a valid pount, if women as you describe are being 'flaky' with you and this a reoccurring pattern or theme. Does it not stand to reason there is a reason for this, that possibly your presenting something to them (I know you are with the narrative you consistently display) that raises red flags for them. And are reticent to meet you. Btw keep it first person no one else needs to be brought into this. But it can't possibly be your fault can it, it has to people, places or things fault. God forbid that you may actually be the problem, or how you present the problem. That's not a possibility is it. Women and men only have the evidence that they are shown to make a decision. If there's anything untoward, then it's there freewill and perogative to be 'flaky'. Let's have it right nobody owes anybody anything. | |||
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" Or you made plans and then just couldn't be arsed to commit to it. Or you were too nervous to go. Weak knees and such. Women do it all the time to all sorts of men, it's not a me issue, it's a them issue. So, I'm going to interject here, call me a white Knight as much as you like I don't give two fucks, but drivel is drivel. She arranged to meet me for a social, she turned up on time in fact early. So that kinda disproves your point totally. About never intending to meet She's has a valid pount, if women as you describe are being 'flaky' with you and this a reoccurring pattern or theme. Does it not stand to reason there is a reason for this, that possibly your presenting something to them (I know you are with the narrative you consistently display) that raises red flags for them. And are reticent to meet you. Btw keep it first person no one else needs to be brought into this. But it can't possibly be your fault can it, it has to people, places or things fault. God forbid that you may actually be the problem, or how you present the problem. That's not a possibility is it. Women and men only have the evidence that they are shown to make a decision. If there's anything untoward, then it's there freewill and perogative to be 'flaky'. Let's have it right nobody owes anybody anything. " Right. Because I am the only guy in the world women flake on. | |||
" Or you made plans and then just couldn't be arsed to commit to it. Or you were too nervous to go. Weak knees and such. Women do it all the time to all sorts of men, it's not a me issue, it's a them issue. So, I'm going to interject here, call me a white Knight as much as you like I don't give two fucks, but drivel is drivel. She arranged to meet me for a social, she turned up on time in fact early. So that kinda disproves your point totally. About never intending to meet She's has a valid pount, if women as you describe are being 'flaky' with you and this a reoccurring pattern or theme. Does it not stand to reason there is a reason for this, that possibly your presenting something to them (I know you are with the narrative you consistently display) that raises red flags for them. And are reticent to meet you. Btw keep it first person no one else needs to be brought into this. But it can't possibly be your fault can it, it has to people, places or things fault. God forbid that you may actually be the problem, or how you present the problem. That's not a possibility is it. Women and men only have the evidence that they are shown to make a decision. If there's anything untoward, then it's there freewill and perogative to be 'flaky'. Let's have it right nobody owes anybody anything. Right. Because I am the only guy in the world women flake on." Don't speak for others, maybe look at yourself and what your doing, own your own shit, every women can't be flaky fir no reason. can I say in 7 years of being on fab, I've not ever had a women cancel a meet or not turn up for a meet, only one to be rearranged, make of that what you will. | |||
"She arranged to meet me for a social, she turned up on time in fact early. So that kinda disproves your point totally. About never intending to meet " Btw if you had read my previous reply carefuly, you'd know it was one possible reason for women in general to flake, not even about her in general. But yeah, keep whiteknighting. You interject, because you defend someone you met before. Sort of expected, no? Women flake very often, and not just me, and if a woman is flaky with you, you just delete their contact. You can paint me the devil all you like for saying that, but it's the truth. Many women flake, you can't changet that, and you shouldn't try to meet her after that any more. Just delete and move on. No second chances, unless she makes all the effort to make up for it | |||
" Or you made plans and then just couldn't be arsed to commit to it. Or you were too nervous to go. Weak knees and such. Women do it all the time to all sorts of men, it's not a me issue, it's a them issue. So, I'm going to interject here, call me a white Knight as much as you like I don't give two fucks, but drivel is drivel. She arranged to meet me for a social, she turned up on time in fact early. So that kinda disproves your point totally. About never intending to meet She's has a valid pount, if women as you describe are being 'flaky' with you and this a reoccurring pattern or theme. Does it not stand to reason there is a reason for this, that possibly your presenting something to them (I know you are with the narrative you consistently display) that raises red flags for them. And are reticent to meet you. Btw keep it first person no one else needs to be brought into this. But it can't possibly be your fault can it, it has to people, places or things fault. God forbid that you may actually be the problem, or how you present the problem. That's not a possibility is it. Women and men only have the evidence that they are shown to make a decision. If there's anything untoward, then it's there freewill and perogative to be 'flaky'. Let's have it right nobody owes anybody anything. Right. Because I am the only guy in the world women flake on." Carry on with the same rhetoric, I think it'll become more of a common reoccurrence for you. | |||
"She arranged to meet me for a social, she turned up on time in fact early. So that kinda disproves your point totally. About never intending to meet Btw if you had read my previous reply carefuly, you'd know it was one possible reason for women in general to flake, not even about her in general. But yeah, keep whiteknighting. You interject, because you defend someone you met before. Sort of expected, no? Women flake very often, and not just me, and if a woman is flaky with you, you just delete their contact. You can paint me the devil all you like for saying that, but it's the truth. Many women flake, you can't changet that, and you shouldn't try to meet her after that any more. Just delete and move on. No second chances, unless she makes all the effort to make up for it" I'm not painting you as anything, im just giving you my perspective from observation. I don't need to, you're doing a good enough job of painting yourself darkly. | |||
" Or you made plans and then just couldn't be arsed to commit to it. Or you were too nervous to go. Weak knees and such. Women do it all the time to all sorts of men, it's not a me issue, it's a them issue. So, I'm going to interject here, call me a white Knight as much as you like I don't give two fucks, but drivel is drivel. She arranged to meet me for a social, she turned up on time in fact early. So that kinda disproves your point totally. About never intending to meet She's has a valid pount, if women as you describe are being 'flaky' with you and this a reoccurring pattern or theme. Does it not stand to reason there is a reason for this, that possibly your presenting something to them (I know you are with the narrative you consistently display) that raises red flags for them. And are reticent to meet you. Btw keep it first person no one else needs to be brought into this. But it can't possibly be your fault can it, it has to people, places or things fault. God forbid that you may actually be the problem, or how you present the problem. That's not a possibility is it. Women and men only have the evidence that they are shown to make a decision. If there's anything untoward, then it's there freewill and perogative to be 'flaky'. Let's have it right nobody owes anybody anything. Right. Because I am the only guy in the world women flake on. Don't speak for others, maybe look at yourself and what your doing, own your own shit, every women can't be flaky fir no reason. can I say in 7 years of being on fab, I've not ever had a women cancel a meet or not turn up for a meet, only one to be rearranged, make of that what you will." Not EVERY woman. Just many. I absolutely had dates and I had women not flake. Both happens. But flaking is simply not a rarity. And when it happens it's not for "no reason", but just personal reasons that have little to do with the person they're meeting. As I said: They prioritise other plans or just pretended to wanting to meet up. Besides, I think it's bit hypocritical to say "Don't speak for others based only on your own experience" and then you take your own experience as evidence. Good one | |||
"Just do yourself a favour and stop being understanding. Women don't deserve a second chance, and it's not worth giving them. I did, thinking they'll come around but they just don't. And if they do, they are problems in the future. Just need to keep getting out there and try try try until you find the rare ones, who don't cancel on dates with flimsy excuses. But don't get your hopes up 99,9% of them will always have a last minute emergency. The ones who are really interested but something happened for real (no excuse), they will try to reschedule. And not just "sometime" but they offer actual alternatives like "let's do this again on tuesday" or something. But that basically never happens. Don't respond. They know what they are doing, and there is no way you should play their games, understanding or angry or whatever. You only win, if you don't play. Ignore their excuses, delete the chat entirely (if you keep reading it, you might send something stupid). If she actually comes around, she will message you again. (but again: This is not going to happen, so stop hoping. THis is not a method to change her mind, but a method for YOURSELF on how to deal with it and get to terms with it) Just date other women, if you have none, do your best to find some, and if you really still don't find anyone, get a nice fleshlight with a shower mount. Flimsy women are about as good as a nice, wet artificial shower fuck "If 99.9 % of them make excuses, there would be no meets involving single women. This isn’t a gender thing. It’s a flaky people thing. | |||
"She arranged to meet me for a social, she turned up on time in fact early. So that kinda disproves your point totally. About never intending to meet Btw if you had read my previous reply carefuly, you'd know it was one possible reason for women in general to flake, not even about her in general. But yeah, keep whiteknighting. You interject, because you defend someone you met before. Sort of expected, no? Women flake very often, and not just me, and if a woman is flaky with you, you just delete their contact. You can paint me the devil all you like for saying that, but it's the truth. Many women flake, you can't changet that, and you shouldn't try to meet her after that any more. Just delete and move on. No second chances, unless she makes all the effort to make up for it I'm not painting you as anything, im just giving you my perspective from observation. I don't need to, you're doing a good enough job of painting yourself darkly." Oh yes you are. Gaslighting much? | |||
"Just do yourself a favour and stop being understanding. Women don't deserve a second chance, and it's not worth giving them. I did, thinking they'll come around but they just don't. And if they do, they are problems in the future. Just need to keep getting out there and try try try until you find the rare ones, who don't cancel on dates with flimsy excuses. But don't get your hopes up 99,9% of them will always have a last minute emergency. The ones who are really interested but something happened for real (no excuse), they will try to reschedule. And not just "sometime" but they offer actual alternatives like "let's do this again on tuesday" or something. But that basically never happens. Don't respond. They know what they are doing, and there is no way you should play their games, understanding or angry or whatever. You only win, if you don't play. Ignore their excuses, delete the chat entirely (if you keep reading it, you might send something stupid). If she actually comes around, she will message you again. (but again: This is not going to happen, so stop hoping. THis is not a method to change her mind, but a method for YOURSELF on how to deal with it and get to terms with it) Just date other women, if you have none, do your best to find some, and if you really still don't find anyone, get a nice fleshlight with a shower mount. Flimsy women are about as good as a nice, wet artificial shower fuck
If 99.9 % of them make excuses, there would be no meets involving single women.
This isn’t a gender thing. It’s a flaky people thing. "Well, the 0,1%. Besides, it's exaggerated obviously. It reads "very often" | |||
" Now, just because you say "I want to avoid abuse" doesn't mean you actually do it because of that. There are a plethora of possible reasons for why you just start making up things last minute before a meet. " I am not White Knighting either, I am not defending fluffy. This is a personal point, I am making. Re-read your statement: Are you respecting her autonomy of mind? It doesn't come across that way to me. Because that's the reason I become avoidant and it is rooted in a fear of abusive relationships. I am not saying you are abusive. I am saying that I as a man would and have pulled away from women who do not respect my autonomy of mind. | |||
" Btw if you had read my previous reply carefuly, you'd know it was one possible reason for women in general to flake, not even about her in general. But yeah, keep whiteknighting. You interject, because you defend someone you met before. Sort of expected, no? " I'll defend a friend be it male or female, when I see him or her, but especially her, being effectively attacked on two fronts. By two males, with messed up fucked up archaic beliefs systems, who take no accountability or responsibility for the things that go one in their lives, but of course the fragile little shallow male pride and sheer arrogance will, label that as white Knighting, no its called being a friend, and a semi decent human being, who doesn't agree with what he's witnessing happen, to said friend. | |||
"Just do yourself a favour and stop being understanding. Women don't deserve a second chance, and it's not worth giving them. I did, thinking they'll come around but they just don't. And if they do, they are problems in the future. Just need to keep getting out there and try try try until you find the rare ones, who don't cancel on dates with flimsy excuses. But don't get your hopes up 99,9% of them will always have a last minute emergency. The ones who are really interested but something happened for real (no excuse), they will try to reschedule. And not just "sometime" but they offer actual alternatives like "let's do this again on tuesday" or something. But that basically never happens. Don't respond. They know what they are doing, and there is no way you should play their games, understanding or angry or whatever. You only win, if you don't play. Ignore their excuses, delete the chat entirely (if you keep reading it, you might send something stupid). If she actually comes around, she will message you again. (but again: This is not going to happen, so stop hoping. THis is not a method to change her mind, but a method for YOURSELF on how to deal with it and get to terms with it) Just date other women, if you have none, do your best to find some, and if you really still don't find anyone, get a nice fleshlight with a shower mount. Flimsy women are about as good as a nice, wet artificial shower fuck
If 99.9 % of them make excuses, there would be no meets involving single women.
This isn’t a gender thing. It’s a flaky people thing.
Well, the 0,1%. Besides, it's exaggerated obviously. It reads "very often""Your posts make out as if the vast majority of women are more likely to flake than to meet. But just a look down the veris of the women posting on this thread or the others who meet them will disprove that. Yes, some women will. As do some men and some couples. | |||
"Wow, just wow. Some of the responses on here are astounding. If one of the popular women of the forum posted this they would be unindated with messages of support and cries of "it's his loss" Is it any wonder the male suicide rate is so alarming high" Yep.... this
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"Really lol she lied because she was in a relationship. Question is, if she said she had a drinking problem and ptsd what was you expecting from her after she told you that? I know it was a lie but you didn't know that at the time and still persisted " | |||
" Btw if you had read my previous reply carefuly, you'd know it was one possible reason for women in general to flake, not even about her in general. But yeah, keep whiteknighting. You interject, because you defend someone you met before. Sort of expected, no? I'll defend a friend be it male or female, when I see him or her, but especially her, being effectively attacked on two fronts. By two males, with messed up fucked up archaic beliefs systems, who take no accountability or responsibility for the things that go one in their lives, but of course the fragile little shallow male pride and sheer arrogance will, label that as white Knighting, no its called being a friend, and a semi decent human being, who doesn't agree with what he's witnessing happen, to said friend. " Oh bollocks to that, mate. I said nothing wrong and you just feel like I am attacking her personally, which I never did. You are just here signalling your virtues. Really. I was talking general, you make it all about me personally. Then you get upset that I keep it general. Women flake. They do. Period. And when they do, you can see my advice above. If you like or not, if you cry or you don't - that's what it is. Women flake, and it's not overly rare. You are just on a crusade against me, so you'll get laid again. Imagine, if you had the gall to agree with me about deleting the number of a flaky woman. Oh boy, you'd never get to meet her again. Maybe she messaged you in private because she seems to have stopped responding a while ago.... Either way. Women sometimes give me BS last minute and don't show up, and sometimes they show up. The thing I said, that riled you up so much, was that I see no difference between the flake rate from tinder (or similar) and real life. I said "that doesn't reflect my experience". But you probably already forgot about that, if you even read it at all. You seem preoccuppied with just arguing me personally into ground. It's your mission tonight, innit? I said lots of thing here that riled you all up, but none are wrong. Women flake often. If they do, you shouldn't give them a second chance. Delete the chat, don't reply if they message you unless they really mean it (no "sometimes" etc). I just think the main issue is, that you take it as an attack against all women - which it is not. You need to take 5 minutes and throw a chill pill, really. You are all so emotional about this, hence why you get so personal. | |||
"Just do yourself a favour and stop being understanding. Women don't deserve a second chance, and it's not worth giving them. I did, thinking they'll come around but they just don't. And if they do, they are problems in the future. Just need to keep getting out there and try try try until you find the rare ones, who don't cancel on dates with flimsy excuses. But don't get your hopes up 99,9% of them will always have a last minute emergency. The ones who are really interested but something happened for real (no excuse), they will try to reschedule. And not just "sometime" but they offer actual alternatives like "let's do this again on tuesday" or something. But that basically never happens. Don't respond. They know what they are doing, and there is no way you should play their games, understanding or angry or whatever. You only win, if you don't play. Ignore their excuses, delete the chat entirely (if you keep reading it, you might send something stupid). If she actually comes around, she will message you again. (but again: This is not going to happen, so stop hoping. THis is not a method to change her mind, but a method for YOURSELF on how to deal with it and get to terms with it) Just date other women, if you have none, do your best to find some, and if you really still don't find anyone, get a nice fleshlight with a shower mount. Flimsy women are about as good as a nice, wet artificial shower fuck
If 99.9 % of them make excuses, there would be no meets involving single women.
This isn’t a gender thing. It’s a flaky people thing.
Well, the 0,1%. Besides, it's exaggerated obviously. It reads "very often"
Your posts make out as if the vast majority of women are more likely to flake than to meet. But just a look down the veris of the women posting on this thread or the others who meet them will disprove that.
Yes, some women will. As do some men and some couples. "I don't know really about majority or not, it comes and goes in phases. But flaking is something that happens a lot. To me, to others. Men probably do it, too, dunno because I don't date them, but we are talking about the women here. If they flake, and it will happen more than just once in your lifetime as a man, you just need to forget this woman, see the red flag and focus on others. | |||
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" Btw if you had read my previous reply carefuly, you'd know it was one possible reason for women in general to flake, not even about her in general. But yeah, keep whiteknighting. You interject, because you defend someone you met before. Sort of expected, no? I'll defend a friend be it male or female, when I see him or her, but especially her, being effectively attacked on two fronts. By two males, with messed up fucked up archaic beliefs systems, who take no accountability or responsibility for the things that go one in their lives, but of course the fragile little shallow male pride and sheer arrogance will, label that as white Knighting, no its called being a friend, and a semi decent human being, who doesn't agree with what he's witnessing happen, to said friend. Oh bollocks to that, mate. I said nothing wrong and you just feel like I am attacking her personally, which I never did. You are just here signalling your virtues. Really. I was talking general, you make it all about me personally. Then you get upset that I keep it general. Women flake. They do. Period. And when they do, you can see my advice above. If you like or not, if you cry or you don't - that's what it is. Women flake, and it's not overly rare. You are just on a crusade against me, so you'll get laid again. Imagine, if you had the gall to agree with me about deleting the number of a flaky woman. Oh boy, you'd never get to meet her again. Maybe she messaged you in private because she seems to have stopped responding a while ago.... Either way. Women sometimes give me BS last minute and don't show up, and sometimes they show up. The thing I said, that riled you up so much, was that I see no difference between the flake rate from tinder (or similar) and real life. I said "that doesn't reflect my experience". But you probably already forgot about that, if you even read it at all. You seem preoccuppied with just arguing me personally into ground. It's your mission tonight, innit? I said lots of thing here that riled you all up, but none are wrong. Women flake often. If they do, you shouldn't give them a second chance. Delete the chat, don't reply if they message you unless they really mean it (no "sometimes" etc). I just think the main issue is, that you take it as an attack against all women - which it is not. You need to take 5 minutes and throw a chill pill, really. You are all so emotional about this, hence why you get so personal." You chat so much shit and don't even realise that the problem isint it's women m, thr problem lies within you thought processes about women, | |||
" I don't know really about majority or not, it comes and goes in phases. But flaking is something that happens a lot. To me, to others. Men probably do it, too, dunno because I don't date them, but we are talking about the women here. If they flake, and it will happen more than just once in your lifetime as a man, you just need to forget this woman, see the red flag and focus on others. " So genuine question then. Is your advice to women who get a flaky man, the same? Ditch them, no more contact, move on? | |||
