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"as in are they still relevent in todays society?or are they just a tourist cash cow? after all they are living in the countrys most expensive council house. discuss..." Does the revenue they bring in outweigh their cost ? What influence do they have on governmental decisions ? | |||
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"as in are they still relevent in todays society?or are they just a tourist cash cow? after all they are living in the countrys most expensive council house. discuss... Does the revenue they bring in outweigh their cost ? What influence do they have on governmental decisions ? " The revenue they bring in outways their costs, they are an institution, not just a tourist attraction, they bring prestige. The queen is the biggest land tax payer in the country | |||
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"An England without a King or Queen doesn't bare thinking about..." your right xxx | |||
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"My opinion, we are all entitled to one, simples "true but perhaps an informed one would be better rather then one from an EDL pamphlet | |||
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"God no! King Harry is going to be fucking amazing!!!" The gingers will rule the world, as it should be, even Jesus was ginger! | |||
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"How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason?" The forces pledge an oath to protect the Queen so yes it would be classed as treason! Me I'd gladly fight to keep the status as it is  | |||
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"Think it's the minor royals that need to go. " "How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason?" There are whittling away the bursaries for minor royals already. It would be considered treason and the lands and totals are theirs by birth right, should we all give up our lands and what we work our whole lives for when we die or leave our legacy for our families and children? | |||
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"Think it's the minor royals that need to go. How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason? There are whittling away the bursaries for minor royals already. It would be considered treason and the lands and totals are theirs by birth right, should we all give up our lands and what we work our whole lives for when we die or leave our legacy for our families and children?" How is it theirs by birth right . Didn't the royals in times past steal the land? | |||
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"as in are they still relevent in todays society?or are they just a tourist cash cow? after all they are living in the countrys most expensive council house. discuss..." No , in short we shouldnt. | |||
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"Think it's the minor royals that need to go. How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason? There are whittling away the bursaries for minor royals already. It would be considered treason and the lands and totals are theirs by birth right, should we all give up our lands and what we work our whole lives for when we die or leave our legacy for our families and children?" i think you are getting a bit hysterical there....  | |||
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"Plenty of other countries do perfectly ok without a royal family, im sure we could " That would generally be because they either have no recent history (in the last 200 years) of having a Royal family or were born as a republic.....not because they got rid of their Royal families in recent history. Maybe if they had a Royal family they might do even better than they are? | |||
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"Think it's the minor royals that need to go. How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason? There are whittling away the bursaries for minor royals already. It would be considered treason and the lands and totals are theirs by birth right, should we all give up our lands and what we work our whole lives for when we die or leave our legacy for our families and children? How is it theirs by birth right . Didn't the royals in times past steal the land? " Go back in history long enough and no-one owned the land.... | |||
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"The problem is, they attract the tourists, (mainly foreigners) then they never seem to clear off! Stay here, get housed and claim benefits, which is not good for our country, I defend your right to say and believe that without you having any substantive proof or concern to others that may blindly take up your ideas x " Oh feck....someone's feeling better | |||
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"Why are all the extreme right wing posts made on here started by people who can't even spell. I think we should get rid of everyone who passed through the English education system and failed miserably to even grasp the basics of the language. That should rid the EDL, NF and UKIP of all their members. Long live the Kween "It's Kweeun . ..... | |||
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"The problem is, they attract the tourists, (mainly foreigners) then they never seem to clear off! Stay here, get housed and claim benefits, which is not good for our country, I defend your right to say and believe that without you having any substantive proof or concern to others that may blindly take up your ideas x Oh feck....someone's feeling better "Aksherly .... im not as good as I was yesterday. Ive got both eyes on and wet hair. Im in a stay in go out mode and if i don't dry n go soon it'll be wavy staying in ... | |||
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"An England without a King or Queen doesn't bare thinking about..." What is that ? | |||
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"Ok....so we ditch the Royal family Let's start with Buckingham Palace...what should we do with it? " It could stay as a tourist attraction. The building and contents are what draws crowds. Get rid of the occupants and it could be open oftener and longer. | |||
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"Think it's the minor royals that need to go. How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason? There are whittling away the bursaries for minor royals already. It would be considered treason and the lands and totals are theirs by birth right, should we all give up our lands and what we work our whole lives for when we die or leave our legacy for our families and children? How is it theirs by birth right . Didn't the royals in times past steal the land? Go back in history long enough and no-one owned the land...." True so it's not they'r birth right | |||
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"No" Are you sure about that ? | |||
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"Ok....so we ditch the Royal family Let's start with Buckingham Palace...what should we do with it? It could stay as a tourist attraction. The building and contents are what draws crowds. Get rid of the occupants and it could be open oftener and longer." That's not change....that's carry on as it is today. It's no good you having a revolution if you don't have REAL change....that's the problem with people who shout loudest for change....they don't have an alternative plan that holds water. | |||
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"Think it's the minor royals that need to go. How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason? There are whittling away the bursaries for minor royals already. It would be considered treason and the lands and totals are theirs by birth right, should we all give up our lands and what we work our whole lives for when we die or leave our legacy for our families and children? How is it theirs by birth right . Didn't the royals in times past steal the land? Go back in history long enough and no-one owned the land.... True so it's not they'r birth right" So all the housing that is built on land and has the deeds for that land, at some point back in history someone stole that land....should we delve back in history and declare ALL land as the property of the people? | |||
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"Think it's the minor royals that need to go. How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason? There are whittling away the bursaries for minor royals already. It would be considered treason and the lands and totals are theirs by birth right, should we all give up our lands and what we work our whole lives for when we die or leave our legacy for our families and children? How is it theirs by birth right . Didn't the royals in times past steal the land? Go back in history long enough and no-one owned the land.... True so it's not they'r birth right So all the housing that is built on land and has the deeds for that land, at some point back in history someone stole that land....should we delve back in history and declare ALL land as the property of the people?" If the rightful owners can be traced then maybe they have a right to have it back | |||
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"Think it's the minor royals that need to go. How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason? There are whittling away the bursaries for minor royals already. It would be considered treason and the lands and totals are theirs by birth right, should we all give up our lands and what we work our whole lives for when we die or leave our legacy for our families and children? How is it theirs by birth right . Didn't the royals in times past steal the land? Go back in history long enough and no-one owned the land.... True so it's not they'r birth right So all the housing that is built on land and has the deeds for that land, at some point back in history someone stole that land....should we delve back in history and declare ALL land as the property of the people? If the rightful owners can be traced then maybe they have a right to have it back" You miss my point....at some time in history NO-ONE owned any piece of land did they?....Every acre of land was at some point 'claimed' or had an ancient form of possessory title taken on it. Buckingham Palace stands on land that at some point in history was 'claimed' by an individual or group of people, there has to be a time when NO-ONE owned that land. Therefore that land would not have been purchased but 'claimed'....go back long enough and lands that now house Royal Palaces....and even YOUR place of residence (and mine) belonged to NO-ONE. | |||
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"Think it's the minor royals that need to go. How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason? There are whittling away the bursaries for minor royals already. It would be considered treason and the lands and totals are theirs by birth right, should we all give up our lands and what we work our whole lives for when we die or leave our legacy for our families and children? How is it theirs by birth right . Didn't the royals in times past steal the land? Go back in history long enough and no-one owned the land.... True so it's not they'r birth right So all the housing that is built on land and has the deeds for that land, at some point back in history someone stole that land....should we delve back in history and declare ALL land as the property of the people? If the rightful owners can be traced then maybe they have a right to have it back You miss my point....at some time in history NO-ONE owned any piece of land did they?....Every acre of land was at some point 'claimed' or had an ancient form of possessory title taken on it. Buckingham Palace stands on land that at some point in history was 'claimed' by an individual or group of people, there has to be a time when NO-ONE owned that land. Therefore that land would not have been purchased but 'claimed'....go back long enough and lands that now house Royal Palaces....and even YOUR place of residence (and mine) belonged to NO-ONE." And you miss my point I was replying to a earlier post that said the land was theirs by birth right I was pointing out that in history royals have stolen and murdered to get the land so I asked how that was their birth right? I know that you can't go back century's to find rightful owners just don't beleive it's their birth right | |||
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"An England without a King or Queen doesn't bare thinking about..." An ENGLAND without???? Is your part of the world no longer part of Great Britain or the United Kingdom? Sheesh didn't realise you got Independence afore the Scots........... And for padantry's sake, it's bear not bare!  | |||
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"Ok....so we ditch the Royal family Let's start with Buckingham Palace...what should we do with it? It could stay as a tourist attraction. The building and contents are what draws crowds. Get rid of the occupants and it could be open oftener and longer. That's not change....that's carry on as it is today. It's no good you having a revolution if you don't have REAL change....that's the problem with people who shout loudest for change....they don't have an alternative plan that holds water." Dealing with Buckingham Place would be the least of the problems..the Constitution..could be messy | |||
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"Ok....so we ditch the Royal family Let's start with Buckingham Palace...what should we do with it? It could stay as a tourist attraction. The building and contents are what draws crowds. Get rid of the occupants and it could be open oftener and longer. That's not change....that's carry on as it is today. It's no good you having a revolution if you don't have REAL change....that's the problem with people who shout loudest for change....they don't have an alternative plan that holds water. Dealing with Buckingham Place would be the least of the problems..the Constitution..could be messy" Exactly....their argument always centres around assets and belongings, it's the easiest and laziest target to home in on....it's our constitution that is all important. Which leads me to believe that many who want the overthrow of the Royal Family do so because of common envy.... Or else they wouldn't bring so much attention to the wealth. | |||
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"I've never been convinced that the royal actually bring in tourists money. not the living ones anyway. this country is full of palaces,cathedrals and castles. Its not like they're inviting anyone in for tea. I suspect the tourists would come anyway. all those people in Rome and Paris must be going there for something and it ain't living breathing royals " This has always been my _iew too. | |||
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"An England without a King or Queen doesn't bare thinking about... An ENGLAND without???? Is your part of the world no longer part of Great Britain or the United Kingdom? Sheesh didn't realise you got Independence afore the Scots........... And for padantry's sake, it's bear not bare! "Sorry, but this one nearly made me spit coffee all over my keyboard. If you're going to pedantic about someone's poor spelling, at least spell pedantry correctly! | |||
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"Ok....so we ditch the Royal family Let's start with Buckingham Palace...what should we do with it? It could stay as a tourist attraction. The building and contents are what draws crowds. Get rid of the occupants and it could be open oftener and longer." Yeah let's go crazyapebonkers and have a car boot sale in front instead of the changing of the guard........ | |||
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"An England without a King or Queen doesn't bare thinking about... An ENGLAND without???? Is your part of the world no longer part of Great Britain or the United Kingdom? Sheesh didn't realise you got Independence afore the Scots........... And for padantry's sake, it's bear not bare!
Sorry, but this one nearly made me spit coffee all over my keyboard. If you're going to pedantic about someone's poor spelling, at least spell pedantry correctly! "I knew I had made a mistake as soon as I hit send. But as long as it gave you a laugh and your keyboard is fine, then all is good | |||
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"An England without a King or Queen doesn't bare thinking about... An ENGLAND without???? Is your part of the world no longer part of Great Britain or the United Kingdom? Sheesh didn't realise you got Independence afore the Scots........... And for padantry's sake, it's bear not bare!
Sorry, but this one nearly made me spit coffee all over my keyboard. If you're going to pedantic about someone's poor spelling, at least spell pedantry correctly! "nice boobies | |||
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"An England without a King or Queen doesn't bare thinking about... An ENGLAND without???? Is your part of the world no longer part of Great Britain or the United Kingdom? Sheesh didn't realise you got Independence afore the Scots........... And for padantry's sake, it's bear not bare!
Sorry, but this one nearly made me spit coffee all over my keyboard. If you're going to pedantic about someone's poor spelling, at least spell pedantry correctly!
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"Ok....so we ditch the Royal family Let's start with Buckingham Palace...what should we do with it? It could stay as a tourist attraction. The building and contents are what draws crowds. Get rid of the occupants and it could be open oftener and longer. That's not change....that's carry on as it is today. It's no good you having a revolution if you don't have REAL change....that's the problem with people who shout loudest for change....they don't have an alternative plan that holds water." That's NOT how it is today. In 2013, the opening dates are 27 July – 29 September 2013 to suit the parasites who lodge there. Relocate them and there's no reason why it could have the same opening hours as the V&A or the British Museum. | |||
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"Ok....so we ditch the Royal family Let's start with Buckingham Palace...what should we do with it? It could stay as a tourist attraction. The building and contents are what draws crowds. Get rid of the occupants and it could be open oftener and longer. That's not change....that's carry on as it is today. It's no good you having a revolution if you don't have REAL change....that's the problem with people who shout loudest for change....they don't have an alternative plan that holds water. That's NOT how it is today. In 2013, the opening dates are 27 July – 29 September 2013 to suit the parasites who lodge there. Relocate them and there's no reason why it could have the same opening hours as the V&A or the British Museum. " Most of June and July Buckingham Palace is used for the garden parties. The queues and security for that alone would make it impractical to open the Palace to paying visitors then. Lots of people really value their invitation to the garden parties. Would I prefer lots of people getting a moment there without paying an entrance fee or more people paying entrance fees...? | |||
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"and who would like to stand on their feet all day making small talk and flying around the world at 85 and 90. You imagine how tired they must of been after all the jubilee celebrations to be honest im not jealous of them i think they work damn hard" Poor souls. All that running around jumping out of helicopters - must be tiring. | |||
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"Do we go the French or the Russian way though. French means finding someone to chop all the families heads off........... Russian means a firing squad for the whole family................. Now its up to those that want it most to decide and carry out the deed "There are other precedents. | |||
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"Get rid of them? I'm hoping one of them leads some sort of rebellion against the idiots in "elected" government. " | |||
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" .... Most of June and July Buckingham Palace is used for the garden parties. The queues and security for that alone would make it impractical to open the Palace to paying visitors then. Lots of people really value their invitation to the garden parties. .......... " I forgot about the garden parties. How would the country survive without garden parties I hear you ask. | |||
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" .... Most of June and July Buckingham Palace is used for the garden parties. The queues and security for that alone would make it impractical to open the Palace to paying visitors then. Lots of people really value their invitation to the garden parties. .......... I forgot about the garden parties. How would the country survive without garden parties I hear you ask." Survive? It would, of course. Something that many value would be lost. If it's just about survival then there's lots of stuff we can get rid. | |||
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" ............ Dealing with Buckingham Place would be the least of the problems..the Constitution..could be messy ........." Sorting the Constitution just takes goodwill on all sides. The male preference thing is on the way out and I suspect ending the 'no catholics' nonsense will follow quickly. | |||
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"Long live our Noble Queen." Izzat a limited edition M600? | |||
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"This must be another "blame someone else for our troubles" thread. We get blame the Tories and the foreigners quite a lot. We also get blame the tax avoiders and blame the rich, not to mention blame Europe... so ... Why not blame the Royals too? We can send them back to Germany they are part Kraut anyway." Only half German, the other half is Greek dont forget. | |||
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"Yes, just to upset Wishy! I suggest we replace them with the teletubbies as they are colourful and brainless... no one will notice the difference "Oi!!! I resemble that remark! Brainless my ARSE! | |||
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" ........ We can send them back to Germany they are part Kraut anyway." I doubt Frau Merkel would be too chuffed about that. | |||
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"God no! King Harry is going to be fucking amazing!!!" Harry rather than Charlie. I can see the Royal faus pas now with Harry - dressing up like a Nazi, getting smashed & falling out a limo, streaking nekkid round Buck Pal. That would be a riot. Meantime lets keep Lizbet Queen of the UK (yeah not just Englandshire - lets not forget her Scottish heritage!) | |||
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" ....... Meantime lets keep Lizbet Queen of the UK (yeah not just Englandshire - lets not forget her Scottish heritage!)" Does she have any, beyond the occasional holiday at Balmoral? | |||
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"Paris gets way more tourism than London. They no longer have a Royal family. If we got rid of the royals people would still come to the UK. " Of couse they would. We could have the advantages without the costs. | |||
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"The cost about 63p per person it hardley breaks the bank" I wouldn't care it they only cost one pence. Having Kings and Queens in this modern age is ridiculous. | |||
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"No they shouldn't. However I think they should be made more accessible. In particular the Middleton sisters' fajiners. Can I get an Amen bros?" Aaaaaamen Bro....!!!! Finally.... The voice of (t)reason....
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"As a solider I an proud of our royals. I have sworn my oath to queen and to country. And think all those who say we should get rid of them should be shot lol. I can see no reason to get rid of them. Only joking about firing squad by the way. " Dont apologise Fluke.... I'd load the guns for you.... | |||
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"An England without a King or Queen doesn't bare thinking about... An ENGLAND without???? Is your part of the world no longer part of Great Britain or the United Kingdom? Sheesh didn't realise you got Independence afore the Scots........... And for padantry's sake, it's bear not bare! "Think you mean pedantry? | |||
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"As a solider I an proud of our royals. I have sworn my oath to queen and to country. And think all those who say we should get rid of them should be shot lol. I can see no reason to get rid of them. Only joking about firing squad by the way. Dont apologise Fluke.... I'd load the guns for you.... "Cock it and lock it
The amount of charity work they do and the fact that there always in the public eye I think they are worth every penny. She is the head of the church. And the royals are a important part of British heritage and culture and so well known all over the world. Don't get why you would be so against it.
If you don't like the royals are you the type of person who would demolish stone henge? Get rid of the pope. And not want to give any publicity to charitys? After all the people who claim job seekers why are people complaining about paying very little to our head of state. If we got rid of them do you think the new head of state would cost up any less? | |||
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" If you don't like the royals are you the type of person who would demolish stone henge? " Nope. read it four times and you're gonna have to explain that one to me | |||
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"Yes they're just an expensive tourist attraction." | |||
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"The queen is an ambassador for the nation. She creates trade links and peaceful relations with other countries which in turn brings in revenues. Add to that the tourism she creates...just look at them standing in the pissing rain for the jubilee. In return she costs us the price of a loaf of bread each " Am not saying queen dont bring in tourists but as for rest of the royals they are a drain on finances that cannot be afforded at anytime let alone now. Government should make all royals bar queen live in one palace and government should sell rest off. | |||
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"as in are they still relevent in todays society?or are they just a tourist cash cow? after all they are living in the countrys most expensive council house. discuss..." The Royal Family are what separate us from any Republican society, mainly te USA (which I'm slightly peeved about witnessing us mimic so much) I am a but of a monarchist as I'm proud we still have the monarchy in the 21st century, we have a dark history with the throne itself but I find it sort of romantic to know that if David Cameron wishes to wage a war, he needs to go to the Queen for "permission"
Those who were not born here and are in favour of getting rid of what makes us different should find somewhere else to live if they're not happy. | |||
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"as in are they still relevent in todays society?or are they just a tourist cash cow? after all they are living in the countrys most expensive council house. discuss... The Royal Family are what separate us from any Republican society, mainly te USA (which I'm slightly peeved about witnessing us mimic so much) I am a but of a monarchist as I'm proud we still have the monarchy in the 21st century, we have a dark history with the throne itself but I find it sort of romantic to know that if David Cameron wishes to wage a war, he needs to go to the Queen for "permission"
Those who were not born here and are in favour of getting rid of what makes us different should find somewhere else to live if they're not happy."The* Bit* | |||
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"as in are they still relevent in todays society?or are they just a tourist cash cow? after all they are living in the countrys most expensive council house. discuss... The Royal Family are what separate us from any Republican society, mainly te USA (which I'm slightly peeved about witnessing us mimic so much) I am english and proud to be so and dislike folk running the place down but that does not mean we need the majority of royals who serve no meaningful purpose to the uk. When cameron or other pm sees queen about war etc its protocol but she cannot legally stop it. Recently it turns out there was a ruling against government making them publish exactly what prince charles interferes with with posiible laws etc. Government still will not publish it perhaps the establishment afraid of backlash as i fail to see how and why he should have any input. By default by doing this it makes our democracy weaker as mps are elected royals are there without any redress. As stated before am not a royalist far from it but see benefit to tourism but that should not give then a say as to what goes on in uk as they are more than well paid for usually sitting on their arse. I am a but of a monarchist as I'm proud we still have the monarchy in the 21st century, we have a dark history with the throne itself but I find it sort of romantic to know that if David Cameron wishes to wage a war, he needs to go to the Queen for "permission"
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"They bring tourism in and lots of it so best kept for now." really? The French killed their royals and expelled the bourbons several times, yet they have a greater tourist industry than we.......as do the yanks. Australia attracts lots.of tourists, they are subjects to the queen yet have no royal residences. Tourism is a sop I feel | |||
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"They bring tourism in and lots of it so best kept for now. really? The French killed their royals and expelled the bourbons several times, yet they have a greater tourist industry than we.......as do the yanks. Australia attracts lots.of tourists, they are subjects to the queen yet have no royal residences. Tourism is a sop I feel" Do people go to France ? | |||
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"as in are they still relevent in todays society?or are they just a tourist cash cow? after all they are living in the countrys most expensive council house. discuss..." lock up away somewhere you mean, like they did with those kids ............ | |||
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"How do you go about getting rid of them? Would that not be treason? The forces pledge an oath to protect the Queen so yes it would be classed as treason! Me I'd gladly fight to keep the status as it is " | |||
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"If they're so good for tourism maybe they should take turns standing on the fourth plinth. at least tourists would get to see them"
And, let's face it, it isn't as if she is standing at the door of the Palace inviting people in personally. She's often not even there yet there are plenty of people wanting to go in and look.
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"The queen is an ambassador for the nation. She creates trade links and peaceful relations with other countries which in turn brings in revenues. Add to that the tourism she creates...just look at them standing in the pissing rain for the jubilee. In return she costs us the price of a loaf of bread each " and yet she's 86. the irony is killing me | |||
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"The French still have plenty of tourism and they got rid of their lot more than 300 years ago." The French are hardly a good example of life without a Royal Family. Who'd want someone like Sarcozy as head of state? | |||
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"The French still have plenty of tourism and they got rid of their lot more than 300 years ago. The French are hardly a good example of life without a Royal Family. Who'd want someone like Sarcozy as head of state?
The French clearly don't. He got dumped in May 2012."Yes, I knew that, but I couldn't remember the name of the faceless bureaucrat they elected in his stead, and I couldn't be arsed to go look it up either. | |||
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"The French still have plenty of tourism and they got rid of their lot more than 300 years ago. The French are hardly a good example of life without a Royal Family. Who'd want someone like Sarcozy as head of state?
The French clearly don't. He got dumped in May 2012.
Yes, I knew that, but I couldn't remember the name of the faceless bureaucrat they elected in his stead, and I couldn't be arsed to go look it up either. "It's a bummer when that happens, isn't it? | |||
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"The French still have plenty of tourism and they got rid of their lot more than 300 years ago. The French are hardly a good example of life without a Royal Family. Who'd want someone like Sarcozy as head of state?
The French clearly don't. He got dumped in May 2012.
Yes, I knew that, but I couldn't remember the name of the faceless bureaucrat they elected in his stead, and I couldn't be arsed to go look it up either. "it's Hollande..He's partner is s fox. that's the only reason i member his name | |||
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"Paris gets way more tourism than London. They no longer have a Royal family. If we got rid of the royals people would still come to the UK. " Really? Based on what? There's a lot more value to the Royal Family than tourism. | |||
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" ................. There's a lot more value to the Royal Family than tourism. Such as?" It is no coincidence that when the senior royals visit abroad great care is taken by the host country to ensure that the visit is planned meticulously and no expense is spared. Even more so with Her Majesty, who is regarded as the most important Royal of ANY country and her visits carry so much prestige to the host nation. An army of business leaders travel in her wake securing deals for Britain on the back of her endorsements. | |||
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" ................. There's a lot more value to the Royal Family than tourism. Such as?" Diplomacy, recognition and reward for some they visit. You can see no value in any of the Queens actions in the past twelve months, or are you blinded by your own bias? I'm no raving royalist but I see no sense in ignoring that sometimes they do contribute in ways that it would be difficult for others to do. I've been able to accompany youngsters to meet the Queen, and the Deputy Prime Minister. One of those was an arrogant twat who spoke shit and was only interested in themselves and the photos being taken. The other was able to make a kid feel like they were the most important person in the world. I think that has some value. | |||
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" ................. There's a lot more value to the Royal Family than tourism. Such as? It is no coincidence that when the senior royals visit abroad great care is taken by the host country to ensure that the visit is planned meticulously and no expense is spared. {/quote] Easy enough when spending someone else's money. [quote Even more so with Her Majesty, who is regarded as the most important Royal of ANY country and her visits carry so much prestige to the host nation. An army of business leaders travel in her wake securing deals for Britain on the back of her endorsements. " She's probably not even regarded as the most important Royal in THIS country. | |||
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" ......... ............He's partner is s fox. that's the only reason i member his name You sure about that? Valerie whatshername? yeah i quite fancy her Ah. I thought you meant her name is S Fox." nah. fat fingers. small phone. proximity of a to s. Sam Fox first lady of France has a ring to it tho. we could trump them by having Kerry katona as head of state | |||
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"Whilst we appreciate the novelty revenue and other interest they bring we think they should, or at least be reduced drastically in number. They are worth an est. 435billion, and feel this is ludicrous, considering the country is in a long and slow depression, maybe in the shite and has been for quite some time. Sorry, we are not jealous of the wealth, far from, but feel they could cure the countries issues and still regain the outlay just in bank interest alone in less than 6months. Cant say we feel the whole regalia is truly British either anymore since many have German heritage, which is ironic since we fought these in 2 world wars! lol. Much of their original wealth was stolen and taxed an beaten out of people by persecuting their own people and attempting to do the same to the whole British Empire, including many needless wars of greed to possess land they had no real right to.. How can we be proud of this history? Something is not right about it all for sure! A debate that could go on indefinitely! There will always be difference of opinion and support both ways...many chat shows make millions from it! Much the same theory can be applied to the shenanigans on this site, with the pretty people, the wealthy class people etc. Class wars, will always ensure destruction and their attitudes will always cause conflict! The mind is an easy thing to twist, wealth and beauty are 2 of the easiest reasons, they stimulate a separation of society, it happens daily on here! Racism, a complete joke, another. Sorry to slip off on a tangent but we feel this relevant. ;0) "435 billion? can i ask where you got that figure from and how it breaks down? | |||
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"Swap them for one direction as the private healthcare will be cheaper. "If we are changeling lets Have Lulu and Cliff! | |||
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"Swap them for one direction as the private healthcare will be cheaper.
If we are changeling lets Have Lulu and Cliff! "Not Cliff Lulu and Mick Jagger then! | |||
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"How much do you think they'd be worth if we got rid of them? And the German thing - seriously?! Take a look at pretty much everybody's ancestry.." Agree entirely, but the question was about the brit royals, every country and nation has its issues and its usually down to greed of its leaders | |||
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"Whilst we appreciate the novelty revenue and other interest they bring we think they should, or at least be reduced drastically in number. They are worth an est. 435billion, and feel this is ludicrous, considering the country is in a long and slow depression, maybe in the shite and has been for quite some time. Sorry, we are not jealous of the wealth, far from, but feel they could cure the countries issues and still regain the outlay just in bank interest alone in less than 6months. Cant say we feel the whole regalia is truly British either anymore since many have German heritage, which is ironic since we fought these in 2 world wars! lol. Much of their original wealth was stolen and taxed an beaten out of people by persecuting their own people and attempting to do the same to the whole British Empire, including many needless wars of greed to possess land they had no real right to.. How can we be proud of this history? Something is not right about it all for sure! A debate that could go on indefinitely! There will always be difference of opinion and support both ways...many chat shows make millions from it! Much the same theory can be applied to the shenanigans on this site, with the pretty people, the wealthy class people etc. Class wars, will always ensure destruction and their attitudes will always cause conflict! The mind is an easy thing to twist, wealth and beauty are 2 of the easiest reasons, they stimulate a separation of society, it happens daily on here! Racism, a complete joke, another. Sorry to slip off on a tangent but we feel this relevant. ;0)
435 billion? can i ask where you got that figure from and how it breaks down?"It was posted on facebook one day and contained a few facts, whether totally accurate or not its probably within the ballpark....sorry but breaking things down is not an interest,try google. Also seen another shocker...A large brit company.. 635 members, 29 accused of spouse abuse, 7 arrested for fraud, 9 accused of bad cheques, 17 bankruptcies, 3 have been to prison for assault, 71, cant get a cc card thru default, 14 arrested on drug charges, 8 shoplifting, 21 currently defendants in court cases, and 84 arrested for drink/driving in the last year....who??? The House of COMMONS, last year they cost the taxpayer £92,993, 748 in expenses......cant see anyone working this out as a farce! | |||
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"Whilst we appreciate the novelty revenue and other interest they bring we think they should, or at least be reduced drastically in number. They are worth an est. 435billion, and feel this is ludicrous, considering the country is in a long and slow depression, maybe in the shite and has been for quite some time. Sorry, we are not jealous of the wealth, far from, but feel they could cure the countries issues and still regain the outlay just in bank interest alone in less than 6months. Cant say we feel the whole regalia is truly British either anymore since many have German heritage, which is ironic since we fought these in 2 world wars! lol. Much of their original wealth was stolen and taxed an beaten out of people by persecuting their own people and attempting to do the same to the whole British Empire, including many needless wars of greed to possess land they had no real right to.. How can we be proud of this history? Something is not right about it all for sure! A debate that could go on indefinitely! There will always be difference of opinion and support both ways...many chat shows make millions from it! Much the same theory can be applied to the shenanigans on this site, with the pretty people, the wealthy class people etc. Class wars, will always ensure destruction and their attitudes will always cause conflict! The mind is an easy thing to twist, wealth and beauty are 2 of the easiest reasons, they stimulate a separation of society, it happens daily on here! Racism, a complete joke, another. Sorry to slip off on a tangent but we feel this relevant. ;0)
435 billion? can i ask where you got that figure from and how it breaks down?
It was posted on facebook one day and contained a few facts, whether totally accurate or not its probably within the ballpark....sorry but breaking things down is not an interest,try google. Also seen another shocker...A large brit company.. 635 members, 29 accused of spouse abuse, 7 arrested for fraud, 9 accused of bad cheques, 17 bankruptcies, 3 have been to prison for assault, 71, cant get a cc card thru default, 14 arrested on drug charges, 8 shoplifting, 21 currently defendants in court cases, and 84 arrested for drink/driving in the last year....who??? The House of COMMONS, last year they cost the taxpayer £92,993, 748 in expenses......cant see anyone working this out as a farce! "Off to do something useful, as said, can of worms an Jeremy Kyle style chat aint our thing....check the net, its full of info, including the undeniable oral sex risk that nobody has mentioned in their profiles....safe sex is all we see, and condoms...they failed as a birth control, now they are total protection from disease?? Think some people need an education! ;0) | |||
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"Whilst we appreciate the novelty revenue and other interest they bring we think they should, or at least be reduced drastically in number. They are worth an est. 435billion, and feel this is ludicrous, considering the country is in a long and slow depression, maybe in the shite and has been for quite some time. Sorry, we are not jealous of the wealth, far from, but feel they could cure the countries issues and still regain the outlay just in bank interest alone in less than 6months. Cant say we feel the whole regalia is truly British either anymore since many have German heritage, which is ironic since we fought these in 2 world wars! lol. Much of their original wealth was stolen and taxed an beaten out of people by persecuting their own people and attempting to do the same to the whole British Empire, including many needless wars of greed to possess land they had no real right to.. How can we be proud of this history? Something is not right about it all for sure! A debate that could go on indefinitely! There will always be difference of opinion and support both ways...many chat shows make millions from it! Much the same theory can be applied to the shenanigans on this site, with the pretty people, the wealthy class people etc. Class wars, will always ensure destruction and their attitudes will always cause conflict! The mind is an easy thing to twist, wealth and beauty are 2 of the easiest reasons, they stimulate a separation of society, it happens daily on here! Racism, a complete joke, another. Sorry to slip off on a tangent but we feel this relevant. ;0)
435 billion? can i ask where you got that figure from and how it breaks down?
It was posted on facebook one day and contained a few facts, whether totally accurate or not its probably within the ballpark....sorry but breaking things down is not an interest,try google. Also seen another shocker...A large brit company.. 635 members, 29 accused of spouse abuse, 7 arrested for fraud, 9 accused of bad cheques, 17 bankruptcies, 3 have been to prison for assault, 71, cant get a cc card thru default, 14 arrested on drug charges, 8 shoplifting, 21 currently defendants in court cases, and 84 arrested for drink/driving in the last year....who??? The House of COMMONS, last year they cost the taxpayer £92,993, 748 in expenses......cant see anyone working this out as a farce!
Off to do something useful, as said, can of worms an Jeremy Kyle style chat aint our thing....check the net, its full of info, including the undeniable oral sex risk that nobody has mentioned in their profiles....safe sex is all we see, and condoms...they failed as a birth control, now they are total protection from disease?? Think some people need an education! ;0)"That's an interesting mix into a discussion! A quick check of the 'net' and the closest estimate I can find to your figure is the Sun newspaper which put it to about a tenth of your figure - £44.5 billion. That same article has a different take on the value of the royals. | |||
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"Whilst we appreciate the novelty revenue and other interest they bring we think they should, or at least be reduced drastically in number. They are worth an est. 435billion, and feel this is ludicrous, considering the country is in a long and slow depression, maybe in the shite and has been for quite some time. Sorry, we are not jealous of the wealth, far from, but feel they could cure the countries issues and still regain the outlay just in bank interest alone in less than 6months. Cant say we feel the whole regalia is truly British either anymore since many have German heritage, which is ironic since we fought these in 2 world wars! lol. Much of their original wealth was stolen and taxed an beaten out of people by persecuting their own people and attempting to do the same to the whole British Empire, including many needless wars of greed to possess land they had no real right to.. How can we be proud of this history? Something is not right about it all for sure! A debate that could go on indefinitely! There will always be difference of opinion and support both ways...many chat shows make millions from it! Much the same theory can be applied to the shenanigans on this site, with the pretty people, the wealthy class people etc. Class wars, will always ensure destruction and their attitudes will always cause conflict! The mind is an easy thing to twist, wealth and beauty are 2 of the easiest reasons, they stimulate a separation of society, it happens daily on here! Racism, a complete joke, another. Sorry to slip off on a tangent but we feel this relevant. ;0)
435 billion? can i ask where you got that figure from and how it breaks down?
It was posted on facebook one day and contained a few facts, whether totally accurate or not its probably within the ballpark....sorry but breaking things down is not an interest,try google. Also seen another shocker...A large brit company.. 635 members, 29 accused of spouse abuse, 7 arrested for fraud, 9 accused of bad cheques, 17 bankruptcies, 3 have been to prison for assault, 71, cant get a cc card thru default, 14 arrested on drug charges, 8 shoplifting, 21 currently defendants in court cases, and 84 arrested for drink/driving in the last year....who??? The House of COMMONS, last year they cost the taxpayer £92,993, 748 in expenses......cant see anyone working this out as a farce!
Off to do something useful, as said, can of worms an Jeremy Kyle style chat aint our thing....check the net, its full of info, including the undeniable oral sex risk that nobody has mentioned in their profiles....safe sex is all we see, and condoms...they failed as a birth control, now they are total protection from disease?? Think some people need an education! ;0)
That's an interesting mix into a discussion! A quick check of the 'net' and the closest estimate I can find to your figure is the Sun newspaper which put it to about a tenth of your figure - £44.5 billion.
That same article has a different take on the value of the royals."Ok, so it the same numbers lol, jeez, do you go thru life pickin everything to bits? I knew the figures....sorry for the typo, 4.35billion.... 45billion its increased...... same theory....the uks issues could be sorted at very little risk to their fortune....but that wud mean giving instead of taking....much the same nonsense we encounter here! Off now bored, Jeremy Kyle crap, ask a sensitive question then 30 people argue all day lol pathetic nonsense, iv got computers to deal with | |||
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"An England without a King or Queen doesn't bare thinking about... An ENGLAND without???? Is your part of the world no longer part of Great Britain or the United Kingdom? Sheesh didn't realise you got Independence afore the Scots........... And for padantry's sake, it's bear not bare!
Sorry, but this one nearly made me spit coffee all over my keyboard. If you're going to pedantic about someone's poor spelling, at least spell pedantry correctly! "Was thinking the same!!
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" Even more so with Her Majesty, who is regarded as the most important Royal of ANY country and her visits carry so much prestige to the host nation. An army of business leaders travel in her wake securing deals for Britain on the back of her endorsements. She's probably not even regarded as the most important Royal in THIS country. Not by you, you mean. She IS regarded as the most important Royal worldwide however much you might want to believe she isn't." I suspect if two TV channels offered a no holds barred inter_iew with the Middleton girl on one channel and her mother-in-law on another, Kate would get higher _iewing figures. | |||
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"£435 billion £44.5 billion £4.35 billion The same numbers? Rather than calling a hissy fit because people misunderstood the numbers you wrote incorrectly, based on some retarded Facebook viral, maybe take the time to explain your argument, because I doubt there's a person anywhere, including those that would support your _iew, that could make any sense of it. If instead you don't have the time to do that because you're busy watching Jeremy Kyle on your PC, don't bother entering into the debate in the first instance. The £45 billion is mostly assets and projected worth, it's not 'real money". The £230m is. To be fair neither is quantitative easing real money, so maybe there's actually some sense hidden away in that confusion you wrote.." Lol, but here you go, rattling on more about the figures than the actually statement. Being educated, with several A levels i was actually aware the fortune, includes assets, buildings, insanely over valued relics and the like. You must have some keen interest in these multi national fools to even quote the info, i personally cringe at seeing them blow 100k on a birthday knowing we have suffering children that need help. You go on with your _iew mate, we commend you for conflicting with normal people to protect people who wouldnt even give you the time of day if you wer lying in the street dying.....you gotta be a Jeremy Kyle fan, FYI i dont even run a tv as its intended, the aerial is unplugged, but i still have to pay a licence! The tripe it broadcasts isnt worth watching for me. Try some swinging instead its much more fun than this pish....yes, the same numbers...i just put the dot in the wrong place but the issues could be solved whatever the actual figure. Dont try to look intelligent by throwing pathetic insults when a non typist makes one little error! | |||
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"Lol, but here you go, rattling on more about the figures than the actually statement. Being educated, with several A levels i was actually aware the fortune, includes assets, buildings, insanely over valued relics and the like. You must have some keen interest in these multi national fools to even quote the info, i personally cringe at seeing them blow 100k on a birthday knowing we have suffering children that need help. You go on with your _iew mate, we commend you for conflicting with normal people to protect people who wouldnt even give you the time of day if you wer lying in the street dying.....you gotta be a Jeremy Kyle fan, FYI i dont even run a tv as its intended, the aerial is unplugged, but i still have to pay a licence! The tripe it broadcasts isnt worth watching for me. Try some swinging instead its much more fun than this pish....yes, the same numbers...i just put the dot in the wrong place but the issues could be solved whatever the actual figure. Dont try to look intelligent by throwing pathetic insults when a non typist makes one little error! " I'm quite happy not to be normal, thank you
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