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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Send someone a nice messages, put plenty of effort in, prove that you have read through their profile. And in return you receive no reply, feel like messaging everyone on here simply saying 'fancy a fuck' without even giving their profile a glance. So frustrating.

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By *ss2011Man  over a year ago

Leeds/Bradford

Probably the hundredth single male to write to them that day though...either they got sick of reading the messages at number sixty or just weren't interested! Bit annoying as I've read people been put off meeting singles purely because of constant bad experiences with others. Oh well!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Is ridiculously stupid, and annoying. Still awaiting my first meet, because most people are time wasters! Conveniently those who have actually spoke.

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London

Ok...

When I receive a message I read the profile first. I have filters as a first sift, so I look if they can accommodate, their location, height, sexuality, whether they have straight but seeking to meet tvs.

If all the above matches what I'm looking for I read the profile. You've not asked for a profile critique so I can't comment on it. All I can say is I'd delete without reading your message!

Now your audience: good luck!

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"Probably the hundredth single male to write to them that day though...either they got sick of reading the messages at number sixty or just weren't interested! Bit annoying as I've read people been put off meeting singles purely because of constant bad experiences with others. Oh well!"

My comments to the op apply to you too!

If you're on a site where there are about 500 men for every woman do you honestly think your profile will attract?!!

If you answer "yes"...good...luck!

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By *ss2011Man  over a year ago

Leeds/Bradford


"Probably the hundredth single male to write to them that day though...either they got sick of reading the messages at number sixty or just weren't interested! Bit annoying as I've read people been put off meeting singles purely because of constant bad experiences with others. Oh well!

My comments to the op apply to you too!

If you're on a site where there are about 500 men for every woman do you honestly think your profile will attract?!!

If you answer "yes"...good...luck!"

I'm pretty sure I implied that exact same thing in my post...

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By *ss2011Man  over a year ago

Leeds/Bradford

Like, I am very aware that this website has a vast number of single men in comparison to the number of women on here. I don't think for a second any of what you have implied so lord knows why you've included me in this too. I was just pointing out how it may have a lot to do with the numbers who write to them...which is what a great deal complain about.

I'm here for TV/TS and maybe to try a threesome. And you can be straight and be into that, just so you know! When guys put Bi then other guys who aren't into dressing will think they are seeking them too...so the straight part is to filter that aspect out. A genuine TS would be a little offended if they knew only bisexual/gay men were attracted to them. I know some who point blank refuse to go with a Bi/Gay guy...yes, really. I don't really have any ideal to meet a single girl from here as I'm very aware of the numbers game.

Sorry, needed to say it as you've misjudged what I've written and practically repeated what I said to him in different words then aimed it at me...:S lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like, I am very aware that this website has a vast number of single men in comparison to the number of women on here. I don't think for a second any of what you have implied so lord knows why you've included me in this too. I was just pointing out how it may have a lot to do with the numbers who write to them...which is what a great deal complain about.

I'm here for TV/TS and maybe to try a threesome. And you can be straight and be into that, just so you know! When guys put Bi then other guys who aren't into dressing will think they are seeking them too...so the straight part is to filter that aspect out. A genuine TS would be a little offended if they knew only bisexual/gay men were attracted to them. I know some who point blank refuse to go with a Bi/Gay guy...yes, really. I don't really have any ideal to meet a single girl from here as I'm very aware of the numbers game.

Sorry, needed to say it as you've misjudged what I've written and practically repeated what I said to him in different words then aimed it at me...:S lol"

No you can't be straight. You want to have bum sex with a man.

The mindset of the TS doesn't come into it. That's how they feel, that they want straight men to find them attractive which is fair enough. Should you meet one on a night out and have no knowledge that they are a TS until told, then fair enough. Some are completely convincing. And it'd be up to you if you take it a step further and have a relationship with the woman inside. I have no problem with the straight argument there.

However, if you're on here looking for tv/ts for sex then you're bisexual. You specifically want to fuck a guy in a dress.

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By *ss2011Man  over a year ago

Leeds/Bradford


"Like, I am very aware that this website has a vast number of single men in comparison to the number of women on here. I don't think for a second any of what you have implied so lord knows why you've included me in this too. I was just pointing out how it may have a lot to do with the numbers who write to them...which is what a great deal complain about.

I'm here for TV/TS and maybe to try a threesome. And you can be straight and be into that, just so you know! When guys put Bi then other guys who aren't into dressing will think they are seeking them too...so the straight part is to filter that aspect out. A genuine TS would be a little offended if they knew only bisexual/gay men were attracted to them. I know some who point blank refuse to go with a Bi/Gay guy...yes, really. I don't really have any ideal to meet a single girl from here as I'm very aware of the numbers game.

Sorry, needed to say it as you've misjudged what I've written and practically repeated what I said to him in different words then aimed it at me...:S lol

No you can't be straight. You want to have bum sex with a man.

The mindset of the TS doesn't come into it. That's how they feel, that they want straight men to find them attractive which is fair enough. Should you meet one on a night out and have no knowledge that they are a TS until told, then fair enough. Some are completely convincing. And it'd be up to you if you take it a step further and have a relationship with the woman inside. I have no problem with the straight argument there.

However, if you're on here looking for tv/ts for sex then you're bisexual. You specifically want to fuck a guy in a dress. "

I've been meeting T-girls since I was 18 and know many from London and Leeds. I'll take their words over someone I've never met any day!

You CAN be straight because, visually, it tends to lean towards straight. The average straight guy wouldn't be able to tell with the majority I know. And I'd be put off if some aren't very convincing...

More of a fetish than an orientation itself which leans towards straight. TS porn is marketed for straight people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is ridiculously stupid, and annoying. Still awaiting my first meet, because most people are time wasters! Conveniently those who have actually spoke."

Why don't you try attending a social night at your local club.

Could you explain how someone is a time waster because they have spoken to you? Surely someone needs to exchange messages to decide if you are right for meeting, if they choose not right, doesn't make them a time waster.

To me a time waster is someone that agrees to meet and fails to show up without adequate reason, not someone that stops messaging.

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By *arlmanMan  over a year ago

Southend

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Send someone a nice messages, put plenty of effort in, prove that you have read through their profile. And in return you receive no reply, feel like messaging everyone on here simply saying 'fancy a fuck' without even giving their profile a glance. So frustrating."

Do you reply to EVERY message you have been sent? I think not.. Have you ever thought some don't reply because when we say, thankyou but no thankyou, we either get insulted or a shed load of repeated messages wanting to know why we don't find them attractive or try to convince us to change our mind. its far easier just to delete. Face it, none of us will be everyone's cup of tea, so just take it for what it is. No is no so just move on and have fun!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is ridiculously stupid, and annoying. Still awaiting my first meet, because most people are time wasters! Conveniently those who have actually spoke.

Why don't you try attending a social night at your local club.

Could you explain how someone is a time waster because they have spoken to you? Surely someone needs to exchange messages to decide if you are right for meeting, if they choose not right, doesn't make them a time waster.

To me a time waster is someone that agrees to meet and fails to show up without adequate reason, not someone that stops messaging."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like, I am very aware that this website has a vast number of single men in comparison to the number of women on here. I don't think for a second any of what you have implied so lord knows why you've included me in this too. I was just pointing out how it may have a lot to do with the numbers who write to them...which is what a great deal complain about.

I'm here for TV/TS and maybe to try a threesome. And you can be straight and be into that, just so you know! When guys put Bi then other guys who aren't into dressing will think they are seeking them too...so the straight part is to filter that aspect out. A genuine TS would be a little offended if they knew only bisexual/gay men were attracted to them. I know some who point blank refuse to go with a Bi/Gay guy...yes, really. I don't really have any ideal to meet a single girl from here as I'm very aware of the numbers game.

Sorry, needed to say it as you've misjudged what I've written and practically repeated what I said to him in different words then aimed it at me...:S lol

No you can't be straight. You want to have bum sex with a man.

The mindset of the TS doesn't come into it. That's how they feel, that they want straight men to find them attractive which is fair enough. Should you meet one on a night out and have no knowledge that they are a TS until told, then fair enough. Some are completely convincing. And it'd be up to you if you take it a step further and have a relationship with the woman inside. I have no problem with the straight argument there.

However, if you're on here looking for tv/ts for sex then you're bisexual. You specifically want to fuck a guy in a dress.

I've been meeting T-girls since I was 18 and know many from London and Leeds. I'll take their words over someone I've never met any day!

You CAN be straight because, visually, it tends to lean towards straight. The average straight guy wouldn't be able to tell with the majority I know. And I'd be put off if some aren't very convincing...

More of a fetish than an orientation itself which leans towards straight. TS porn is marketed for straight people.

"

Absolute nonsense and clearly you do not know the difference between a TV and a TS.

You are not straight if you go with a TV, and in no way visually or not or whatever rubbish you want to say does it take away the fact it is a man, Full stop!

So sexual relations with a TV is a man with a man, ergo bisexual.

TS pre or post op are completely different and I am sure they would love you categorising them as the same

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Send someone a nice messages, put plenty of effort in, prove that you have read through their profile. And in return you receive no reply, feel like messaging everyone on here simply saying 'fancy a fuck' without even giving their profile a glance. So frustrating."

Familiarise yourself with the site FAQ's, it is not rude to not reply and do you reply to every unsolicited piece of junk mail through your letter box or inbox with a no thank you? No!

No reply = not interested so move on, simple

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I've been meeting T-girls since I was 18 and know many from London and Leeds. I'll take their words over someone I've never met any day!

You CAN be straight because, visually, it tends to lean towards straight. The average straight guy wouldn't be able to tell with the majority I know. And I'd be put off if some aren't very convincing...

More of a fetish than an orientation itself which leans towards straight. TS porn is marketed for straight people.

"

Just to state my qualifications, I've been a tv/ts admirer for many years and been all over the country to clubs and parties, coincidentally am also a bloke in a dress.

Exactly as you said, you've a fetish for guys who dress as girls. Wether you choose to ignore the Cock and balls dangling between their legs is up to you, but its still there. It's a bisexual fetish, they're still men. There are very few genuine gender dysphoric people on the scene compared to transvestites. So in he main most Tgirls you meet on a night out do the same as me next day. Shave, Put trousers on and go to work.

You can say "I'm straight" if it makes you feel better about shagging them.

I don't meet "straight" men anymore because they seem to think that sex with a tv is about shutting their eyes, trying to forget it's a guy they are fucking, busting a load and leaving immediately. Wether I'm satisfied or not. Not even a reach around.

Does that sound familiar or are you the sort of straight guy that sucks Cock too?

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By *ss2011Man  over a year ago

Leeds/Bradford


"Like, I am very aware that this website has a vast number of single men in comparison to the number of women on here. I don't think for a second any of what you have implied so lord knows why you've included me in this too. I was just pointing out how it may have a lot to do with the numbers who write to them...which is what a great deal complain about.

I'm here for TV/TS and maybe to try a threesome. And you can be straight and be into that, just so you know! When guys put Bi then other guys who aren't into dressing will think they are seeking them too...so the straight part is to filter that aspect out. A genuine TS would be a little offended if they knew only bisexual/gay men were attracted to them. I know some who point blank refuse to go with a Bi/Gay guy...yes, really. I don't really have any ideal to meet a single girl from here as I'm very aware of the numbers game.

Sorry, needed to say it as you've misjudged what I've written and practically repeated what I said to him in different words then aimed it at me...:S lol

No you can't be straight. You want to have bum sex with a man.

The mindset of the TS doesn't come into it. That's how they feel, that they want straight men to find them attractive which is fair enough. Should you meet one on a night out and have no knowledge that they are a TS until told, then fair enough. Some are completely convincing. And it'd be up to you if you take it a step further and have a relationship with the woman inside. I have no problem with the straight argument there.

However, if you're on here looking for tv/ts for sex then you're bisexual. You specifically want to fuck a guy in a dress.

I've been meeting T-girls since I was 18 and know many from London and Leeds. I'll take their words over someone I've never met any day!

You CAN be straight because, visually, it tends to lean towards straight. The average straight guy wouldn't be able to tell with the majority I know. And I'd be put off if some aren't very convincing...

More of a fetish than an orientation itself which leans towards straight. TS porn is marketed for straight people.

Absolute nonsense and clearly you do not know the difference between a TV and a TS.

You are not straight if you go with a TV, and in no way visually or not or whatever rubbish you want to say does it take away the fact it is a man, Full stop!

So sexual relations with a TV is a man with a man, ergo bisexual.

TS pre or post op are completely different and I am sure they would love you categorising them as the same "

No it isn't nonsense.

Differences?

TS - born a man but a woman inside so they transition and lives full time as a woman.

TV - A man who doesn't live their life fulltime as a woman but tends to have the same feelings but not as strong, or apart of courage...or being rejected for a sex change on the NHS...loads of things!

Clearly I do!

I'm talking about visuals here...most convincing I've met was not a TS.

Not arguing this one anyway as it will go on and on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sorry for hijacking the thread btw, but it was tedious anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

LMFAO! A TV does not have the same feelings as a TS but been turned down for surgery! The two things are linked only by the clothing.

That statement was Utter crap, I have no such feelings. I just think women's clothing is a hell of a lot more interesting than mens! There's a sexual element of course.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I just look at the profile pic, or any that are public! If they are not the type me and hubby are looking for, I will not reply because they have not read our profile.

M

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like, I am very aware that this website has a vast number of single men in comparison to the number of women on here. I don't think for a second any of what you have implied so lord knows why you've included me in this too. I was just pointing out how it may have a lot to do with the numbers who write to them...which is what a great deal complain about.

I'm here for TV/TS and maybe to try a threesome. And you can be straight and be into that, just so you know! When guys put Bi then other guys who aren't into dressing will think they are seeking them too...so the straight part is to filter that aspect out. A genuine TS would be a little offended if they knew only bisexual/gay men were attracted to them. I know some who point blank refuse to go with a Bi/Gay guy...yes, really. I don't really have any ideal to meet a single girl from here as I'm very aware of the numbers game.

Sorry, needed to say it as you've misjudged what I've written and practically repeated what I said to him in different words then aimed it at me...:S lol

No you can't be straight. You want to have bum sex with a man.

The mindset of the TS doesn't come into it. That's how they feel, that they want straight men to find them attractive which is fair enough. Should you meet one on a night out and have no knowledge that they are a TS until told, then fair enough. Some are completely convincing. And it'd be up to you if you take it a step further and have a relationship with the woman inside. I have no problem with the straight argument there.

However, if you're on here looking for tv/ts for sex then you're bisexual. You specifically want to fuck a guy in a dress.

I've been meeting T-girls since I was 18 and know many from London and Leeds. I'll take their words over someone I've never met any day!

You CAN be straight because, visually, it tends to lean towards straight. The average straight guy wouldn't be able to tell with the majority I know. And I'd be put off if some aren't very convincing...

More of a fetish than an orientation itself which leans towards straight. TS porn is marketed for straight people.

Absolute nonsense and clearly you do not know the difference between a TV and a TS.

You are not straight if you go with a TV, and in no way visually or not or whatever rubbish you want to say does it take away the fact it is a man, Full stop!

So sexual relations with a TV is a man with a man, ergo bisexual.

TS pre or post op are completely different and I am sure they would love you categorising them as the same

No it isn't nonsense.

Differences?

TS - born a man but a woman inside so they transition and lives full time as a woman.

TV - A man who doesn't live their life fulltime as a woman but tends to have the same feelings but not as strong, or apart of courage...or being rejected for a sex change on the NHS...loads of things!

Clearly I do!

I'm talking about visuals here...most convincing I've met was not a TS.

Not arguing this one anyway as it will go on and on."

There is no argument -

Man with man having sex = bisexual

Man dressed as a woman = a man still

Visually a man dressed in woman's clothing = a man who still will have a cock and balls.

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By *ss2011Man  over a year ago

Leeds/Bradford


" I've been meeting T-girls since I was 18 and know many from London and Leeds. I'll take their words over someone I've never met any day!

You CAN be straight because, visually, it tends to lean towards straight. The average straight guy wouldn't be able to tell with the majority I know. And I'd be put off if some aren't very convincing...

More of a fetish than an orientation itself which leans towards straight. TS porn is marketed for straight people.

Just to state my qualifications, I've been a tv/ts admirer for many years and been all over the country to clubs and parties, coincidentally am also a bloke in a dress.

Exactly as you said, you've a fetish for guys who dress as girls. Wether you choose to ignore the Cock and balls dangling between their legs is up to you, but its still there. It's a bisexual fetish, they're still men. There are very few genuine gender dysphoric people on the scene compared to transvestites. So in he main most Tgirls you meet on a night out do the same as me next day. Shave, Put trousers on and go to work.

You can say "I'm straight" if it makes you feel better about shagging them.

I don't meet "straight" men anymore because they seem to think that sex with a tv is about shutting their eyes, trying to forget it's a guy they are fucking, busting a load and leaving immediately. Wether I'm satisfied or not. Not even a reach around.

Does that sound familiar or are you the sort of straight guy that sucks Cock too? "

Nope doesn't sound familiar at all. I know exactly what you mean on the 2nd to last paragraph and that is far from what I am. A lot of what you're saying is what I already know. The guys who think they are completely straight are a big problem, yep! It is more along the straight spectrum in my eyes. We all have different outlooks and perceptions, and mine isn't self hate based like some who are of a similar opinion.

I aren't one of these people who regards themselves as completely straight, I have actually been with guys too but realised it isn't my thing...and I honestly couldn't give a crap if people said I was gay. I said above about people listing as straight for the reason of actual men contacting them. If you leave straight but the TS/TV then a whole lot less will contact.

BUT I am of the opinion that is more along the straight side than gay side. That's all.

For someone who has done all of this so long, tell me, how many out Bisexual men do you know with a preference for TS AND even TV? You already know that answer, and maybe explains a little more to why I have this opinion.

These assumptions in the last paragraph are hilarious btw.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sorry for hijacking the thread btw, but it was tedious anyway. "

Technically Mr "straight" hijacked it first with his words of wisdom

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By *ss2011Man  over a year ago

Leeds/Bradford


"LMFAO! A TV does not have the same feelings as a TS but been turned down for surgery! The two things are linked only by the clothing.

That statement was Utter crap, I have no such feelings. I just think women's clothing is a hell of a lot more interesting than mens! There's a sexual element of course. "

I actually used that example because I know some who have been rejected for the OP because of mental health.

That statement isn't utter crap...I'm thinking much the same as what you've said too. But saying so is just counter productive in the whole scheme of things.

Like I said, no point going over this as it will go on and on.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"LMFAO! A TV does not have the same feelings as a TS but been turned down for surgery! The two things are linked only by the clothing.

That statement was Utter crap, I have no such feelings. I just think women's clothing is a hell of a lot more interesting than mens! There's a sexual element of course. "

Hallelujah!

And I am not a man, or a TV or a TS but even I understand the difference!

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By *ss2011Man  over a year ago

Leeds/Bradford


"Sorry for hijacking the thread btw, but it was tedious anyway.

Technically Mr "straight" hijacked it first with his words of wisdom "

If only you knew the orientation of most of my friends and my occupation (which is as stereotypically gay as you get.)

Been with guys as guys and found it wasn't my thing. Definitely not a confused/self hating homophobe here...

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