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By *r mrs pCouple
over a year ago
taunton |
"On TV now, and its getting me so annoyed.... one half of me says rehabilitate, the other says throw away the key.  "
99% of these lads will continue to commit crime untill they die, friends of mine were like this at 14 and still the same in there 50's.  |
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"Perhaps a thermo nuclear device would rid us of this vermin"
I say, what a jolly good idea....I'll get onto the Home Office this minute.
In the meantime could you help us out with the North Korean crisis? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think its sad as in most of these lads will know no better and have seen people behave the way they do growing up and think they have to act up and have this chavvish gang mentality to gain status...and sad that having seen it it hasn't been enough to make them want more from life.
What a generation
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By *nanneWoman
over a year ago
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there is no quick fix to the problem we have in this country .. total lack of respect for themselves and others not helped by the litigation state we find ourselves in ... maybe we should give rights back to parents and authority figures so that kids today know where the bounderies are and that if they cross them they wont be given a pat on the back and encouraged to make claims... prison should always be a last resort and they are sent there as a punishment not to be punished bring back borstal and the good old short sharp shock never mind what the european court of human rights says |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Don't watch any of that rubbish, why should they get air time, they are criminals and cause misery and suffering, let them rot in obscurity, and out of the public eye.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Anyone who think all prisoners can be rehabilitated please read the story on the Belgian monster who kidnapped and raped 6 girls, allowing four of them to starve to death.
He has applied for parole on licence (in Belgium a lifer can apply for release after 15 years), but his own MOTHER contacted the court on hearing her son's application for parole, stating: "This is a repeat offender in his soul, as he has already proved throughout his life."
Some can be rehabilitated but those are for whom a prison sentence was something they never thought they would undergo, but for career criminals a prison sentence is something they know will happen sooner or later and accept it as such.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Don't watch any of that rubbish, why should they get air time, they are criminals and cause misery and suffering, let them rot in obscurity, and out of the public eye.
M"
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By *r mrs pCouple
over a year ago
taunton |
"there is no quick fix to the problem we have in this country .. total lack of respect for themselves and others not helped by the litigation state we find ourselves in ... maybe we should give rights back to parents and authority figures so that kids today know where the bounderies are and that if they cross them they wont be given a pat on the back and encouraged to make claims... prison should always be a last resort and they are sent there as a punishment not to be punished bring back borstal and the good old shortfall sharp shock never mind what the european court of human rights says "
Borstal was seen as a joke when I was young, kids felt if they had done borstal, they were HARD ffs. |
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By *ady4lady OP Woman
over a year ago
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"there is no quick fix to the problem we have in this country .. total lack of respect for themselves and others not helped by the litigation state we find ourselves in ... maybe we should give rights back to parents and authority figures so that kids today know where the bounderies are and that if they cross them they wont be given a pat on the back and encouraged to make claims... prison should always be a last resort and they are sent there as a punishment not to be punished bring back borstal and the good old short sharp shock never mind what the european court of human rights says "
I agree in part, but unfortunately a lot of the 'parents' or role models are too d*unk or too high to care what their kids are up to.
Thats not a view, its an observation. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"there is no quick fix to the problem we have in this country .. total lack of respect for themselves and others not helped by the litigation state we find ourselves in ... maybe we should give rights back to parents and authority figures so that kids today know where the bounderies are and that if they cross them they wont be given a pat on the back and encouraged to make claims... prison should always be a last resort and they are sent there as a punishment not to be punished bring back borstal and the good old short sharp shock never mind what the european court of human rights says
I agree in part, but unfortunately a lot of the 'parents' or role models are too d*unk or too high to care what their kids are up to.
Thats not a view, its an observation."
Not all parents of criminals are d*unks or drug users, wonder where you are observing from. |
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By *ady4lady OP Woman
over a year ago
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"there is no quick fix to the problem we have in this country .. total lack of respect for themselves and others not helped by the litigation state we find ourselves in ... maybe we should give rights back to parents and authority figures so that kids today know where the bounderies are and that if they cross them they wont be given a pat on the back and encouraged to make claims... prison should always be a last resort and they are sent there as a punishment not to be punished bring back borstal and the good old short sharp shock never mind what the european court of human rights says
I agree in part, but unfortunately a lot of the 'parents' or role models are too d*unk or too high to care what their kids are up to.
Thats not a view, its an observation.
Not all parents of criminals are d*unks or drug users, wonder where you are observing from."
I didnt say ALL parents of criminals are d*unks or drug users. I said a lot of them are, and my observation is from working with ex offenders who knew no different because no one cared ! |
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played sunday league football there years ago ( we were the away team ), scared from the moment we walked in there. An aura of caged evil. Never been so happy to get out of anywhere( we got a 2-2 draw). |
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38Days added on for holding a fellow prisoner hostage... That's a joke in it self.
I read a great post on Facebook saying we should put pensioners in prison and criminals in old people's homes. That way pensioner will have:
24/7 hours care and supervision
Workshops,
tvs
entertainment consols
gardens and access to gym
Allowed out of there cells for hours each day
3 meals a day plus many choices
Easy access to drugs to help the days go by
Private visitation rooms
There fore criminals are left with:
Locked in dirty rooms 24-7
miss treated and abused
No heat water and food on odd occasion
Carers who don't give a toss about them
And plenty more but you get the jist lol
(Obviously not all care homes fall under this standard and I do hold the most respect for those that are run right and give the care the elderly deserve)
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nope,it doesn't free bed n board,smokes and tv pool tables,for most its easier then living out of them,They are sent there for punishment i don't think they should have all the comforts of home. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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There have been people breaking the law since the first days laws were made. Its got a bit to do with nature, and a bit to do with murture, but there are people who had excellent upbringings and parents who feel compelled to break the law.
Antisocial behaviour is not a modern thing! |
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By *nanneWoman
over a year ago
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parents are not always to blame ....good parents can have bad kids, you can only give your kids the bricks to build their lives with if you have taught your child right from wrong and shown them love and compasion and they then choose a life of crime then that is nor really the fault of a parent more often the fault lies with society as a whole and as ive said a total lack of respect accross the board |
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"Anyone who think all prisoners can be rehabilitated please read the story on the Belgian monster who kidnapped and raped 6 girls, allowing four of them to starve to death.
He has applied for parole on licence (in Belgium a lifer can apply for release after 15 years), but his own MOTHER contacted the court on hearing her son's application for parole, stating: "This is a repeat offender in his soul, as he has already proved throughout his life."
Some can be rehabilitated but those are for whom a prison sentence was something they never thought they would undergo, but for career criminals a prison sentence is something they know will happen sooner or later and accept it as such.
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using detroux as an example or a guideline on rehabilitation is rather loading the debate to one side..
the fact that he can apply for parole after 4 murders and the rest of his crimes is a bit bizarre..
not all will ever be rehabilitated, would like the government to take it seriously as long term both financially and for further victims of crime it has to be better than just locking them down.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Why not just exterminate them.
You must be able to think up a worse punishment than that....come back to us when you have come up with something a little bit more extreme..."
J just told me that he thinks they still boil people alive in uzbekistan for some crimes, cant get more extreme than that.
how awful |
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By *ady4lady OP Woman
over a year ago
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The prison sentence is the punishment, the actual stay in prison is supposed to be used to rehabilitate so that the person leaves prison with a purpose and doesn't re-offend.
It works with some, but with others its a complete waste of time, the sad thing is that so much time is taken up trying to control the idiots that the ones who do want to change their lives are not given enough of a chance ...
Some can never be rehabilitated due to it being a 'way of life' rather than a choice of behaviour.
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Some will be rehabilitated, some won't...
Not much of a reason to abandon them all is it?
The answer surely is to try our best as a society to work with those that can be helped back into a 'normal' life. |
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"Good to know these people are about 2 miles from our house
Move now lol. "
If only we could, thankfully logic dictates that if someone escapes from prison they generally dont hang around outside the prison after! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyone who think all prisoners can be rehabilitated please read the story on the Belgian monster who kidnapped and raped 6 girls, allowing four of them to starve to death.
He has applied for parole on licence (in Belgium a lifer can apply for release after 15 years), but his own MOTHER contacted the court on hearing her son's application for parole, stating: "This is a repeat offender in his soul, as he has already proved throughout his life."
Some can be rehabilitated but those are for whom a prison sentence was something they never thought they would undergo, but for career criminals a prison sentence is something they know will happen sooner or later and accept it as such.
using detroux as an example or a guideline on rehabilitation is rather loading the debate to one side..
the fact that he can apply for parole after 4 murders and the rest of his crimes is a bit bizarre..
not all will ever be rehabilitated, would like the government to take it seriously as long term both financially and for further victims of crime it has to be better than just locking them down.. "
I don't believe I was loading the debate. My point was that some people think all prisoners can be rehabilitated and the fact remains is that some can't, and it is these misguided believers in turning convicts into model citizens who really need to get to grip with the reality that releasing supposedly reformed characters back into society is flawed and dangerous. |
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By *ady4lady OP Woman
over a year ago
liverpool |
"Good to know these people are about 2 miles from our house
Move now lol.
If only we could, thankfully logic dictates that if someone escapes from prison they generally dont hang around outside the prison after!"
Wouldnt worry, they nearly all end up here !!!  |
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"Anyone who think all prisoners can be rehabilitated please read the story on the Belgian monster who kidnapped and raped 6 girls, allowing four of them to starve to death.
He has applied for parole on licence (in Belgium a lifer can apply for release after 15 years), but his own MOTHER contacted the court on hearing her son's application for parole, stating: "This is a repeat offender in his soul, as he has already proved throughout his life."
Some can be rehabilitated but those are for whom a prison sentence was something they never thought they would undergo, but for career criminals a prison sentence is something they know will happen sooner or later and accept it as such.
using detroux as an example or a guideline on rehabilitation is rather loading the debate to one side..
the fact that he can apply for parole after 4 murders and the rest of his crimes is a bit bizarre..
not all will ever be rehabilitated, would like the government to take it seriously as long term both financially and for further victims of crime it has to be better than just locking them down..
I don't believe I was loading the debate. My point was that some people think all prisoners can be rehabilitated and the fact remains is that some can't, and it is these misguided believers in turning convicts into model citizens who really need to get to grip with the reality that releasing supposedly reformed characters back into society is flawed and dangerous."
Wishy people who have been to prison can become rehabilited its up to them to want to do it.. |
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By *ady4lady OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Trouble is they get out, no decent jobs, so no money, so return to crime for easy money."
Very true, the tick-box on an application form thats askes 'do you have a criminal record' is usually as far as most employers go before slinging the form. Most offences are wiped after 24 months, but a prison sentence of 5 yrs or more is on your record for life. So doing something stupid at 18 could stay with you for the rest of your life. (not saying thats wrong, just think it needs a re-think). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Right bit of clarity here re rehabilitation there is government aim to get more folk on community programmes aka probation service to manage offenders sad part of this is like most things here cutbacks have resulted in loss of lots of probation staff so puts more strain on those left to manage more folk Square peg round hole comes to mind. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What identifies a society is not how affluent or powerful it is but how it treats the people on the margins of that society the elderly the infirm the disabled the insane and yes its prisoners. Retribution justice is proven to be useless and a sophisticated society must advocate a rehabilitation ethos. People can change and if just a handful are redeemed the process is morally and fiscally sound |
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By *r mrs pCouple
over a year ago
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"Trouble is they get out, no decent jobs, so no money, so return to crime for easy money.
Very true, the tick-box on an application form thats askes 'do you have a criminal record' is usually as far as most employers go before slinging the form. Most offences are wiped after 24 months, but a prison sentence of 5 yrs or more is on your record for life. So doing something stupid at 18 could stay with you for the rest of your life. (not saying thats wrong, just think it needs a re-think). "
If you see the number of uni students who cant get a job what chance has a con got.Plus sell a bit of gear and you can earn 300 pound a night.Whwt are they going to do |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not sure what people expected from this programme - sweet, innocent kids just a bit down on their luck and ready to overcome everything just for the want of a kindly word or a bit of guidance.
Shock horror, it's a mean and nasty world at times, and prisons house some mean, nasty people.
If you looked at prisons in any country or at any time in history you'd find the same mixture of damaged, stupid idiots full of false bravado.
Don't forget that this is a "reality" show and is designed to shock and therefore is targeted to show the biggest idiots of the lot. |
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"Anyone who think all prisoners can be rehabilitated please read the story on the Belgian monster who kidnapped and raped 6 girls, allowing four of them to starve to death.
He has applied for parole on licence (in Belgium a lifer can apply for release after 15 years), but his own MOTHER contacted the court on hearing her son's application for parole, stating: "This is a repeat offender in his soul, as he has already proved throughout his life."
Some can be rehabilitated but those are for whom a prison sentence was something they never thought they would undergo, but for career criminals a prison sentence is something they know will happen sooner or later and accept it as such.
using detroux as an example or a guideline on rehabilitation is rather loading the debate to one side..
the fact that he can apply for parole after 4 murders and the rest of his crimes is a bit bizarre..
not all will ever be rehabilitated, would like the government to take it seriously as long term both financially and for further victims of crime it has to be better than just locking them down..
I don't believe I was loading the debate. My point was that some people think all prisoners can be rehabilitated and the fact remains is that some can't, and it is these misguided believers in turning convicts into model citizens who really need to get to grip with the reality that releasing supposedly reformed characters back into society is flawed and dangerous."
Will differ on the detroux point..
some will wear rose tinted spectacles on any subject and believe what they want to hear to support that belief..
part of the problem is the prison places are being used as mental health wards and to send a message that the government are tough on crime by banging up none tv license payers etc..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"13 minutes in is a bit swift to be making a decision.
Sometimes, doesnt matter what I say, its wrong.
Just ignore, "
You and me both 
* cReEpS rOunD cRyPt * - | - |
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By *ady4lady OP Woman
over a year ago
liverpool |
interesting, I just did a quick Google on the TV licence point.
140,000 people were given a criminal record last year for not paying their licence. yet you can steal goods worth £200, or cause £500 worth of criminal damage and be handed a fixed penalty notice by the police.
the law needs changing, and quickly i guess. |
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"interesting, I just did a quick Google on the TV licence point.
140,000 people were given a criminal record last year for not paying their licence. yet you can steal goods worth £200, or cause £500 worth of criminal damage and be handed a fixed penalty notice by the police.
the law needs changing, and quickly i guess. "
You don't get a criminal record for not paying your TV license, you get the criminal record for defying a court order to make the payment when you have already been caught and prosecuted.
Refusal to pay a court fine |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
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Don't forget that this is a "reality" show and is designed to shock and therefore is targeted to show the biggest idiots of the lot."
And those idiots will be only too willing to rise to the occasion. |
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By *ady4lady OP Woman
over a year ago
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"interesting, I just did a quick Google on the TV licence point.
140,000 people were given a criminal record last year for not paying their licence. yet you can steal goods worth £200, or cause £500 worth of criminal damage and be handed a fixed penalty notice by the police.
the law needs changing, and quickly i guess.
You don't get a criminal record for not paying your TV license, you get the criminal record for defying a court order to make the payment when you have already been caught and prosecuted.
Refusal to pay a court fine"
The website I got it from (Daily Mail) says ..... The law as it stands allows TV Licence inspectors to take you to court if they discover you watching your TV without a licence - even if you agree to pay on the spot.
Propoganda??? I dont know as I have a licence lol |
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Don't forget that this is a "reality" show and is designed to shock and therefore is targeted to show the biggest idiots of the lot.
And those idiots will be only too willing to rise to the occasion."
Exactly....and showing too many of those who do rehablitate never makes good television, not enough shock value. |
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over a year ago
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I was shocked watching this especially when they held that boy hostage and practically got away with it.
According to google what was shown wasn't the worst that happened when filming,
"Series director and producer Lee Phillips said: “The most horrendous incidents we saw won’t be shown, either because of sensitivity or because they are still going through the judicial process.
“Those incidents were very serious — they include the attempted murder of a prison officer who was stabbed in the face 20-plus"
Shocking! |
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"I was shocked watching this especially when they held that boy hostage and practically got away with it.
According to google what was shown wasn't the worst that happened when filming,
"Series director and producer Lee Phillips said: “The most horrendous incidents we saw won’t be shown, either because of sensitivity or because they are still going through the judicial process.
“Those incidents were very serious — they include the attempted murder of a prison officer who was stabbed in the face 20-plus"
Shocking!"
OMG....that is awful... |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"I was shocked watching this especially when they held that boy hostage and practically got away with it.
According to google what was shown wasn't the worst that happened when filming,
"Series director and producer Lee Phillips said: “The most horrendous incidents we saw won’t be shown, either because of sensitivity or because they are still going through the judicial process.
“Those incidents were very serious — they include the attempted murder of a prison officer who was stabbed in the face 20-plus"
Shocking!
OMG....that is awful... "
I doubt it's that unusual. |
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"I was shocked watching this especially when they held that boy hostage and practically got away with it.
According to google what was shown wasn't the worst that happened when filming,
"Series director and producer Lee Phillips said: “The most horrendous incidents we saw won’t be shown, either because of sensitivity or because they are still going through the judicial process.
“Those incidents were very serious — they include the attempted murder of a prison officer who was stabbed in the face 20-plus"
Shocking!
OMG....that is awful...
I doubt it's that unusual."
Nah its not esp in Aylesbury which has a reputation for its violence... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I point this out only in passing and 'cos I've mentioned it before but at least two of the main troublemakers featured had given names which 'benefit' from unusual spelling.
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I don't get what u ur getting at? |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
"I point this out only in passing and 'cos I've mentioned it before but at least two of the main troublemakers featured had given names which 'benefit' from unusual spelling.
I don't get what u ur getting at?"
Just as an example, one of the chief troublemakers was called Caspean.
This isn't the first time I've noticed, and mentioned here, that people with unusually spelled given names find themselves in difficult situations.
Does having the name attract trouble or do people with unusual names have, for want of a better phrase, a bit of a problem?
I dunno, but it seems to be the case. |
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"Anyone who think all prisoners can be rehabilitated please read the story on the Belgian monster who kidnapped and raped 6 girls, allowing four of them to starve to death.
He has applied for parole on licence (in Belgium a lifer can apply for release after 15 years), but his own MOTHER contacted the court on hearing her son's application for parole, stating: "This is a repeat offender in his soul, as he has already proved throughout his life."
Some can be rehabilitated but those are for whom a prison sentence was something they never thought they would undergo, but for career criminals a prison sentence is something they know will happen sooner or later and accept it as such.
using detroux as an example or a guideline on rehabilitation is rather loading the debate to one side..
the fact that he can apply for parole after 4 murders and the rest of his crimes is a bit bizarre..
not all will ever be rehabilitated, would like the government to take it seriously as long term both financially and for further victims of crime it has to be better than just locking them down..
I don't believe I was loading the debate. My point was that some people think all prisoners can be rehabilitated and the fact remains is that some can't, and it is these misguided believers in turning convicts into model citizens who really need to get to grip with the reality that releasing supposedly reformed characters back into society is flawed and dangerous.
Will differ on the detroux point..
some will wear rose tinted spectacles on any subject and believe what they want to hear to support that belief..
part of the problem is the prison places are being used as mental health wards and to send a message that the government are tough on crime by banging up none tv license payers etc..
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Some people have absolutely no idea about the criminal justice system other than what they read in the papers, see in the news and in programmes such as this.
Most of the lock em up and throw away the key brigade are the most ill informed and ignorant of all. The only thing these people have a achieved is give us a flawed, pointless criminal justice system that does nothing to reduce crime. |
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"I point this out only in passing and 'cos I've mentioned it before but at least two of the main troublemakers featured had given names which 'benefit' from unusual spelling.
I don't get what u ur getting at?
Just as an example, one of the chief troublemakers was called Caspean.
This isn't the first time I've noticed, and mentioned here, that people with unusually spelled given names find themselves in difficult situations.
Does having the name attract trouble or do people with unusual names have, for want of a better phrase, a bit of a problem?
I dunno, but it seems to be the case."
My sons have unusual names ive never had any trouble from them |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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Most of the lock em up and throw away the key brigade are the most ill informed and ignorant of all. The only thing these people have a achieved is give us a flawed, pointless criminal justice system that does nothing to reduce crime."
Really good point |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
Glasgow |
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Most of the lock em up and throw away the key brigade are the most ill informed and ignorant of all. The only thing these people have a achieved is give us a flawed, pointless criminal justice system that does nothing to reduce crime."
But it makes them feel so much better about themselves that they don't care that the evidence fails to support their misconceptions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Most of the lock em up and throw away the key brigade are the most ill informed and ignorant of all. The only thing these people have a achieved is give us a flawed, pointless criminal justice system that does nothing to reduce crime.
But it makes them feel so much better about themselves that they don't care that the evidence fails to support their misconceptions."
Sadly you may have a point there  |
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"I point this out only in passing and 'cos I've mentioned it before but at least two of the main troublemakers featured had given names which 'benefit' from unusual spelling.
I don't get what u ur getting at?
Just as an example, one of the chief troublemakers was called Caspean.
This isn't the first time I've noticed, and mentioned here, that people with unusually spelled given names find themselves in difficult situations.
Does having the name attract trouble or do people with unusual names have, for want of a better phrase, a bit of a problem?
I dunno, but it seems to be the case."
Both of my sons have christian names that are not spelt in the traditional manner....both are young professionals who have fantastic jobs and earn salaries that most men of twice their age would love to earn....
So, means very little in reality. |
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Most of the lock em up and throw away the key brigade are the most ill informed and ignorant of all. The only thing these people have a achieved is give us a flawed, pointless criminal justice system that does nothing to reduce crime.
But it makes them feel so much better about themselves that they don't care that the evidence fails to support their misconceptions."
agreed.. |
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Most of the lock em up and throw away the key brigade are the most ill informed and ignorant of all. The only thing these people have a achieved is give us a flawed, pointless criminal justice system that does nothing to reduce crime.
But it makes them feel so much better about themselves that they don't care that the evidence fails to support their misconceptions."
We should just be thankful that they are not in positions of importance and trust..... |
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By *nnyMan
over a year ago
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Most of the lock em up and throw away the key brigade are the most ill informed and ignorant of all. The only thing these people have a achieved is give us a flawed, pointless criminal justice system that does nothing to reduce crime.
But it makes them feel so much better about themselves that they don't care that the evidence fails to support their misconceptions.
We should just be thankful that they are not in positions of importance and trust..... "
They voted in the Tories |
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Most of the lock em up and throw away the key brigade are the most ill informed and ignorant of all. The only thing these people have a achieved is give us a flawed, pointless criminal justice system that does nothing to reduce crime.
But it makes them feel so much better about themselves that they don't care that the evidence fails to support their misconceptions.
We should just be thankful that they are not in positions of importance and trust.....
They voted in the Tories "
Which only goes to strengthen my argument....  |
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Most of the lock em up and throw away the key brigade are the most ill informed and ignorant of all. The only thing these people have a achieved is give us a flawed, pointless criminal justice system that does nothing to reduce crime.
But it makes them feel so much better about themselves that they don't care that the evidence fails to support their misconceptions.
We should just be thankful that they are not in positions of importance and trust.....
They voted in the Tories "
should lock them up and throw away the key ...
way beyond rehabilitation.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm surprised at some of the opinions posted on this thread. I believe, as the mental health worker said in the programme, that no-one is born evil. We're all born into the world the same. Its life experiences that make us who we are. I'm not using that as an excuse for those who commit crime. I'm just pointing out that we should thank our lucky stars that we've been brought up the right way. Some of those lads in there don't know any different. They've not been shown how to behave; and yet some people on here think they should be 'exterminated!'. That lad who had mental health problems saw his dad murdered when he was six. How does that affect the mind of a six year old? I wish people showed a bit more understanding, and didnt jump on the bandwagon of 'letting them all rot in jail'. We're all human beings, and it's society's fault as a whole that there are so many criminals. We should all take responsibilty for this, and try and encourage rehabilitation of these offenders. |
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"I'm surprised at some of the opinions posted on this thread. I believe, as the mental health worker said in the programme, that no-one is born evil. We're all born into the world the same. Its life experiences that make us who we are. I'm not using that as an excuse for those who commit crime. I'm just pointing out that we should thank our lucky stars that we've been brought up the right way. Some of those lads in there don't know any different. They've not been shown how to behave; and yet some people on here think they should be 'exterminated!'. That lad who had mental health problems saw his dad murdered when he was six. How does that affect the mind of a six year old? I wish people showed a bit more understanding, and didnt jump on the bandwagon of 'letting them all rot in jail'. We're all human beings, and it's society's fault as a whole that there are so many criminals. We should all take responsibilty for this, and try and encourage rehabilitation of these offenders."
brilliant!! |
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"I'm surprised at some of the opinions posted on this thread. I believe, as the mental health worker said in the programme, that no-one is born evil. We're all born into the world the same. Its life experiences that make us who we are. I'm not using that as an excuse for those who commit crime. I'm just pointing out that we should thank our lucky stars that we've been brought up the right way. Some of those lads in there don't know any different. They've not been shown how to behave; and yet some people on here think they should be 'exterminated!'. That lad who had mental health problems saw his dad murdered when he was six. How does that affect the mind of a six year old? I wish people showed a bit more understanding, and didnt jump on the bandwagon of 'letting them all rot in jail'. We're all human beings, and it's society's fault as a whole that there are so many criminals. We should all take responsibilty for this, and try and encourage rehabilitation of these offenders."
well said |
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By *phroditeWoman
over a year ago
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"I'm surprised at some of the opinions posted on this thread. I believe, as the mental health worker said in the programme, that no-one is born evil. We're all born into the world the same. Its life experiences that make us who we are. I'm not using that as an excuse for those who commit crime. I'm just pointing out that we should thank our lucky stars that we've been brought up the right way. Some of those lads in there don't know any different. They've not been shown how to behave; and yet some people on here think they should be 'exterminated!'. That lad who had mental health problems saw his dad murdered when he was six. How does that affect the mind of a six year old? I wish people showed a bit more understanding, and didnt jump on the bandwagon of 'letting them all rot in jail'. We're all human beings, and it's society's fault as a whole that there are so many criminals. We should all take responsibilty for this, and try and encourage rehabilitation of these offenders."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Don't watch any of that rubbish, why should they get air time, they are criminals and cause misery and suffering, let them rot in obscurity, and out of the public eye.
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Most of the lock em up and throw away the key brigade are the most ill informed and ignorant of all. The only thing these people have a achieved is give us a flawed, pointless criminal justice system that does nothing to reduce crime.
But it makes them feel so much better about themselves that they don't care that the evidence fails to support their misconceptions."
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