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By *ade cross OP TV/TS
over a year ago
chiselhurst |
I have received quite few request from guys wanting to meet and have sex. Surley if you want to have sex with me a guy in panties thats makes you bi or pan not straight. Please explain?
Not moaning or complaining just very curious. |
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By *ullyMan
over a year ago
Near Clacton |
I have received quite few request from guys wanting to meet and have sex. Surley if you want to have sex with me a guy in panties thats makes you bi or pan not straight. Please explain?
Not moaning or complaining just very curious.
I get a lot "str8" guy messages too, I think they are denying their liking for cock, probably inwardly ashamed or in denial. |
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Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have received quite few request from guys wanting to meet and have sex. Surley if you want to have sex with me a guy in panties thats makes you bi or pan not straight. Please explain?
Not moaning or complaining just very curious."
Oh god tell me about it! When I tell them I'm a guy they suddenly dissapear. It's crazy! I mean not gonna lie this is probably one of my old fashioned views but for me it isn't straight for a male to have sex with another male. Some people will say it doesn't matter but to me it does. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate straights, I just don't want to be near them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have received quite few request from guys wanting to meet and have sex. Surley if you want to have sex with me a guy in panties thats makes you bi or pan not straight. Please explain?
Not moaning or complaining just very curious."
Maybe they are fab straight  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Depends really, if you are making it purely about the physical then I guess
There’s plenty of TVs on here that are so stunning it’s hard to think it gay to be with them
There’s women on here that make me question how a straight guy could fancy it
Ultimately attraction comes down to more the just penis and vagina, bras and pants |
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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago
London | Belfast |
It's just closeted. Also maybe some guys think along the lines of "no woman wants me, what is the closest thing to it?". And it makes sense, considering that I constantly read from you ts/tvs that guys flake on you, flake even more on you than guys flake on women and couples. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. "
What a straight man can have full sex with another man and still be straight?
Stop this planet I want to get off. |
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By *apnDomMan
over a year ago
London | Belfast |
"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. What a straight man can have full sex with another man and still be straight?
Stop this planet I want to get off."
Na, you can't be straight if you have sex with men. But then again: It's often just not admitting it. Especially considering how some women here wouldn't even touch you, if you were bi. They get the ick about it. There was that one thread recently.... Eye opening. |
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Had a bloke the other week start messaging etc, he mentioned what a load of weird people there were on Fab, I agreed and commented there’s nowt weirder than a bloke trying to chat up another bloke wearing a dress the conversation ended there and then and provoked him to block me instantly |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There's too much trying to tie people to a label, maybe they just want to experiment, why is it significant to be straight, bi(cur), gay, pansexual or other variant that I'm none the wiser of, why can't they be a person who is sexually active with other people who are sexually active? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's quite simple really. If a man puts on a dress and says he's still a man, then another man who has sex with that person is not straight. If a man puts on a dress and says he's now a woman, another man who has sex with that person is straight. What's difficult to understand about that?
Bess x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There's another thread titled " slated for meeting a TV" on here at the moment.
Which explains perfectly why guys won't admit to meeting tv/ts and have straight on profile. |
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"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. What a straight man can have full sex with another man and still be straight?
Stop this planet I want to get off."
They do. There are plenty of gay for pay people out there. If they are not attracted to the gender, then it doesn't change their sexuality. Sex industry workers, including porn participants and commercial sex staff, engage in sex with people who they have no sexual attraction to. |
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People have a right to do a lot of imbetween things, like experiment, fluctuate and simple be bisexual. Which means to be heterosexual (ie straight) and homosexual. But where are the rules on when that has to happen and how you can define yourself? If mixed race people can call themselves 'black' and (I love this) 'white', then why cannot bisexual people call themselves 'straight'?
I think I'm getting more and more uncomfortable with the idea that we all need to label ourselves with these more-traditional labels (though I do think labels do matter in life for sure). Too much goes on out there tbh, and I don't think 'bisexual' will last all that long as a term, despite how often it's used. I often call it the last sexual taboo. And some people are afraid of bisexuals for sure (and I can't really blame some people for hiding it because of that, sexuality is a very personal thing) but I think it's partly a 'taboo' subject too because it has inherent problems in its definition.
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There’s straight and there’s fab straight, just like there’s single and fab single *shrugs*
I know of quite a few guys who are bi but have straight on their profile and that’s mostly to not lessen their chances with women - each to their own I say. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. What a straight man can have full sex with another man and still be straight?
Stop this planet I want to get off.
They do. There are plenty of gay for pay people out there. If they are not attracted to the gender, then it doesn't change their sexuality. Sex industry workers, including porn participants and commercial sex staff, engage in sex with people who they have no sexual attraction to. "
Surely a man needs to have a sexual attraction to someone to get a hard election. |
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"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. What a straight man can have full sex with another man and still be straight?
Stop this planet I want to get off.
They do. There are plenty of gay for pay people out there. If they are not attracted to the gender, then it doesn't change their sexuality. Sex industry workers, including porn participants and commercial sex staff, engage in sex with people who they have no sexual attraction to.
Surely a man needs to have a sexual attraction to someone to get a hard election."
Like Boris Johnson and Angela Rayner ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have received quite few request from guys wanting to meet and have sex. Surley if you want to have sex with me a guy in panties thats makes you bi or pan not straight. Please explain?
Not moaning or complaining just very curious."
You ate portraying femininity and that attracts straight men, simple. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have received quite few request from guys wanting to meet and have sex. Surley if you want to have sex with me a guy in panties thats makes you bi or pan not straight. Please explain?
Not moaning or complaining just very curious.
You ate portraying femininity and that attracts straight men, simple. "
Any straight man into tv or femboys is a bit bi. |
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By *unchalMan
over a year ago
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"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. "
What absolute nonesense. Being forced into having sex for money is not really the issue here. |
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By *unchalMan
over a year ago
Dartford |
"I have received quite few request from guys wanting to meet and have sex. Surley if you want to have sex with me a guy in panties thats makes you bi or pan not straight. Please explain?
Not moaning or complaining just very curious.
Maybe they are fab straight "
I love that term. I've stopped trying to work it out for myself. I just ask the question when a straight guy contacts me. |
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By *unchalMan
over a year ago
Dartford |
"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. What a straight man can have full sex with another man and still be straight?
Stop this planet I want to get off."
No need to leave the planet. Let me help. No! They can't. If a man has sex with a man because he wants to on more than one occasion then they are gay or bisexual. Nice and straight forward. And no being only oral still counts as having sex, despite what Bill Clinton might think. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. What a straight man can have full sex with another man and still be straight?
Stop this planet I want to get off.
No need to leave the planet. Let me help. No! They can't. If a man has sex with a man because he wants to on more than one occasion then they are gay or bisexual. Nice and straight forward. And no being only oral still counts as having sex, despite what Bill Clinton might think. "
I know this.
I just couldn't believe what the poster I quoted actually said |
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By *uzie69xTV/TS
over a year ago
Maidstone |
"Would they not be gynosexual? Attracted to anyone who's feminine."
Thanks for posting, I've come across this word before but forgotten it. I'll make a point of using it often.
All the men I meet have opposite go-to porn preferences to me. They love:
1) lesbian porn
2) trans female porn and then
3) straight porn, concentrating on their type of women, ignoring the men.
I do meet "bi" guys who would happily sex men. But most do not enjoy sex with men at all - their cocks go limp as soon as a man walks into the room. To lump them all as "bi" is too simplistic.
OP, you are a TV (identify as man), you are likely meeting a lot of "bi" guys, but some are "straight" as the ones I describe above.
You are creating an illusion and then judge their sexuality on that? Why are you being a sexuality fascist? |
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"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. What a straight man can have full sex with another man and still be straight?
Stop this planet I want to get off.
They do. There are plenty of gay for pay people out there. If they are not attracted to the gender, then it doesn't change their sexuality. Sex industry workers, including porn participants and commercial sex staff, engage in sex with people who they have no sexual attraction to.
Surely a man needs to have a sexual attraction to someone to get a hard election."
Who knows how their minds work  Gay for pay in sex employment and entertainment is as old as the hills.  |
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"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. What a straight man can have full sex with another man and still be straight?
Stop this planet I want to get off.
No need to leave the planet. Let me help. No! They can't. If a man has sex with a man because he wants to on more than one occasion then they are gay or bisexual. Nice and straight forward. And no being only oral still counts as having sex, despite what Bill Clinton might think. "
If they are not attracted to the gender that you're implying, then it doesn't change their sexuality. Sex workers have lots of sex with people who they don't find sexually attractive at all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"TV CD not cis men .  "
But TV/CD are men tho. Infact, they are also cis men, cisgender means that they still see themselves as men. If they weren't cis then they wouldn't be TV/CD, they'd be TG/TS or NB surely. Plus, they aren't as fem as cis women due to skeletal and muscular differences. |
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"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. What a straight man can have full sex with another man and still be straight?
Stop this planet I want to get off.
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No need to leave the planet. Let me help. No! They can't. If a man has sex with a man because he wants to on more than one occasion then they are gay or bisexual. Nice and straight forward. And no being only oral still counts as having sex, despite what Bill Clinton might think. "
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This is just illogical nonsense, and I could have sworn I replied to it at the time!
Do you still feel this way?
Think about the way you have decided that a man who has sex with a man must be "gay or bisexual" here.
Then why can't they also be 'straight and bisexual'?
Think about it.
If a person who is mixed race can also be black etc (society is typically happy to allow this), why can they also not also be white? (ummm...)
Is it really "nice and straight forward?"
They have simply found out that people change sexuality in soo many ways, and sexuality diverges soo much. It's why people can be Straight on their Fab profile and still have sex with a guy if they ever feel right to/up to/in the mood/of a mind to - or not! Perhaps never again - or maybe nothing else. Periods of both perhaps?
Sure other things might factor in using Straight too, but when it is entirely because that's what someone feels happiest doing - what can anyone say? It's entirely their own choice.
Bisexuality is just about the most unwieldy 'official' term there is, and it simply won't last forever. Society is still clearly working all the labelling out! Sadly, we do occasionally need labels in life, especially when there is so much prejudice still about.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It literally is straightforward though.
A man fucking another man isn't straight, it just doesn't work like that. It is perfectly fine for someone to not be straight. If I, a male, have sex with another male, I am not straight. This is because straight people do not feel sexual attraction for people of the same sex. I don't know why you've brought race into this discussion though, they are two completely different ball parks. Race is something that cannot be changed with time alive. I am white, I can't just decide to go and become black. However, I am bisexual, in 40 years I may decide that I no longer have attraction to people of the opposite sex, therefor I would be gay.
A person cannot be both straight and bisexual as they are incompatable because of their definitions.
I don't understand why people are so scared of saying they are gay or bi. These people who keep claiming to be straight are the real problems as they must have some serious self hatred about themselves if they can't even accept who they are. |
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"It literally is straightforward though.
A man fucking another man isn't straight, it just doesn't work like that. It is perfectly fine for someone to not be straight. If I, a male, have sex with another male, I am not straight. This is because straight people do not feel sexual attraction for people of the same sex. I don't know why you've brought race into this discussion though, they are two completely different ball parks. Race is something that cannot be changed with time alive. I am white, I can't just decide to go and become black. However, I am bisexual, in 40 years I may decide that I no longer have attraction to people of the opposite sex, therefor I would be gay.
A person cannot be both straight and bisexual as they are incompatable because of their definitions.
I don't understand why people are so scared of saying they are gay or bi. These people who keep claiming to be straight are the real problems as they must have some serious self hatred about themselves if they can't even accept who they are.
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I find this one such a brain drain! There is no way to make the evidence/argument short. But honestly, you just can't tell other people what they are in this matter!!
I'm going to look for another thread in a bit and copy the whole thing here - I wrote at length on this a few times not that long ago.
It's not just impolite to insist of others sexuality in this particular area, it's actually logically impossible to insist people are 'bisexual' because they've fucked a guy more than once (or whatever the daft criteria was).
Bisexuality (I can't wait now for us to replace this hopelessly 'bi' term!) contains both heterosexual and homosexual behaviour, amongst other things. You can't cram it all together as one thing and insist people are 'it'.
It's a choice label that officialdom still finds useful (one that many Gays *still* hate), and science realises that now.
Forget about the 'politics of shame', that got non-binary people in a total mess in the 70's, and they ended up turning on their own. It's about both scientific research and basic logic here, not embarrassment or shame or anything like that.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don’t think it’s so messed up.
There’s 4 things I think happen.
1. Plain lying - perhaps so women don’t think you’re bi and perhaps something else like afraid of friends seeing.
2. Curious - self explanatory
3. Sees it as straight - if a straight guy seeks fem guys and trans gender partners then they may well believe that’s totally straight.
4. Couldn’t pull a girl and horny so a guy will do tonight. |
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By *uzie69xTV/TS
over a year ago
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"A person cannot be both straight and bisexual as they are incompatable because of their definitions.
I don't understand why people are so scared of saying they are gay or bi. These people who keep claiming to be straight are the real problems as they must have some serious self hatred about themselves if they can't even accept who they are. "
According to Kinsey, bisexuality is a spectrum, and most of the men who contact me are more towards the "straight" end. So they will not pursue men for solo 121, but in a group, it is all about the cock for them.
So most of them have not internalised homo or bi phobic as you are suggesting. It is how they manage their profile for the hook-ups they want - female, TS or wouldn't mind going oral on the male half of the M/F couple. |
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The easiest way we have found is presume every man on fab is bi regardless of what it says. Some won't care and laugh it off, they are straight, then the ones that have to tell you how straight they are over and over again, that's the bi ones |
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"The easiest way we have found is presume every man on fab is bi regardless of what it says. Some won't care and laugh it off, they are straight, then the ones that have to tell you how straight they are over and over again, that's the bi ones "
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over a year ago
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"They are still straight if they are only givig and using you for sexual relief its when they have a desire to touch or suck a cock that they have turned lol."
How does that even remotely make sense? They are still fucking another man, a man fucking a man isn't straight. |
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"They are still straight if they are only givig and using you for sexual relief its when they have a desire to touch or suck a cock that they have turned lol.
How does that even remotely make sense? They are still fucking another man, a man fucking a man isn't straight. "
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"They are still straight if they are only givig and using you for sexual relief its when they have a desire to touch or suck a cock that they have turned lol.
How does that even remotely make sense? They are still fucking another man, a man fucking a man isn't straight.
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Says you.pt"
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"They are still straight if they are only givig and using you for sexual relief its when they have a desire to touch or suck a cock that they have turned lol.
How does that even remotely make sense? They are still fucking another man, a man fucking a man isn't straight.
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Says you.pt
Got any relevant arguements or are you just a sore loser in discussion?"
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I've responded to you (often in length) a number of times on the forum now, and you've ignored *every single one*!
Fine. But where is this discussion I'm supposed to have lost?
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"They are still straight if they are only givig and using you for sexual relief its when they have a desire to touch or suck a cock that they have turned lol.
How does that even remotely make sense? They are still fucking another man, a man fucking a man isn't straight.
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Says you.pt
Got any relevant arguements or are you just a sore loser in discussion?
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I've responded to you (often in length) a number of times on the forum now, and you've ignored *every single one*!
Fine. But where is this discussion I'm supposed to have lost?
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Ok sure, tell me then. How is it logically impossible for someone to say that a man isn't straight if he actively enjoys fucking other men/being fucked by other men? |
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I debated this in so many threads now (and you have been in at least one other!) that I think I'll look for some old threads to copy and paste a bit.
I can write a lot on this, but when a number of people need to reduce something to a simplistic label (often for political reasons, ie they don't like people not championing something they are proud of themselves), they seem to not see the many arguments.
Now I have some attention though, I'll try and detail (with some citations and my own experience of being in long straight relationships) the full argument on sexual labelling tonight.
In the meantime there are a few good posts on this thread. Also, look at the term pansexual.
And aside from the term bisexual containing both 'gay' (as is often allowed) and straight too (by logical conclusion), the word bisexual is ultimately actually a binary word, but what if you are 'non binary'? This is partly why I don't think the term will ultimately last. It's just the word that gets officially used for forms etc. They know how weak and ephemeral it can be though. A lot of homosexual people actually used to hate it, it has an interesting history. I think it's had it's place in time for sure, but it can't ultimately last (asuming we all will) I am certain.
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I think a lot of blokes on here see TVs as plan B, They probably get knocked back by women to the extent of desperation, so think what’s next best thing .... ah yes let’s try a trannie they must be desperate for a shag or a BJ |
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"It's quite simple really. If a man puts on a dress and says he's still a man, then another man who has sex with that person is not straight. If a man puts on a dress and says he's now a woman, another man who has sex with that person is straight. What's difficult to understand about that?
Bess x"
Because it's nonsense. Just because a guy says he's a woman doesn't make him a woman.
Are we in clown era now? |
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"Had a bloke the other week start messaging etc, he mentioned what a load of weird people there were on Fab, I agreed and commented there’s nowt weirder than a bloke trying to chat up another bloke wearing a dress the conversation ended there and then and provoked him to block me instantly "
Why did you feel the need to imply to him that he was weird? |
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For straight guys (who are actually a bit Bi Curious) looking to experiment...
A TV is a nice middle ground.
They get to play with a penis (which is likely what they want)
But they don't have to do it with a manly man who probably doesn't excite them at all. |
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"Had a bloke the other week start messaging etc, he mentioned what a load of weird people there were on Fab, I agreed and commented there’s nowt weirder than a bloke trying to chat up another bloke wearing a dress the conversation ended there and then and provoked him to block me instantly
Why did you feel the need to imply to him that he was weird?"
Its called having a bit of banter having a sense of humour etc ... something that is sadly lacking in the world today because people get offended, Can’t remember but said person probably didn’t have Looking for TVs on his profile which is often the case on here, |
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I really don't know why anyone even cares.
It's just a label...just words.
Do what you want and feels good I say.
I've certainly seen men dressed that look much more attractive than a lot of women here.
It's not my thing but I say just go for it if it works for you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I might change my category. Being feminine doesn’t mean o want to be perceived as a woman. And it’ll be interesting to see if I’m getting messaged just cause guys are messaging the category. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think most of these are probably curious, having sex with a man dressed up is like a half way for them, they don't want to admit to themselves that they are bi. Quite a few over the years have fucked me doggy with my panties only pulled down to see my bottom |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have received quite few request from guys wanting to meet and have sex. Surley if you want to have sex with me a guy in panties thats makes you bi or pan not straight. Please explain?
Not moaning or complaining just very curious.
Oh god tell me about it! When I tell them I'm a guy they suddenly dissapear. It's crazy! I mean not gonna lie this is probably one of my old fashioned views but for me it isn't straight for a male to have sex with another male. Some people will say it doesn't matter but to me it does. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate straights, I just don't want to be near them."
Another angle is that many people don't want to be labelled, cool if you do but some don't.
In the heat of the moment all manner of things happen, doesn't mean they are bi or bi curious does it ?
Your opinion is yours though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I recently met a couple where the husband was described as straight but they wanted to try a MMF.
We started with me and his wife enjoying a passionate kiss both fully clothed and within a couple of minutes he had my cock out and was sucking it like there was no tomorrow. Afterwards he was adamant that he was totally straight but felt that sucking me was the natural thing to do! I think that was more for his wife's benefit but she clearly got off on the whole scenario so I couldn't get why he was making such a big deal out of it! |
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"I have received quite few request from guys wanting to meet and have sex. Surley if you want to have sex with me a guy in panties thats makes you bi or pan not straight. Please explain?
Not moaning or complaining just very curious."
Not for me, sorry.
I don't have a TV licence.
They keep writing to me, threatening to send some bobby helmets round to my gaff if I don't pay for a TV licence.
But I don't watch live broadcast TV.
Hope that helps...... |
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Agree with lots here especially most men bottle a meet including men, too many labels, one that needs to go is bicurious, if you got it up you're bysexual. I'm bisexual but not gay, never kissed a guy but had quite a few cocks |
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I know, right. I get lots of messages from straight guys, and I have to check with to make sure that they meant to message me in the first place, and then if they know that I am a male. |
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Straight guys who want to meet tvs but aren't open about their preferences on their profile are simply not been honest with themselves and others.
When questioned on this they come up with a feeble excuse and then get abusive.
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People say they don't like labels yet we live in a society where people create new labels and identities all the time. I'm very "old fashioned" in that regard. Meet who you want and fuck who you want. As long as you're being honest with people I couldn't care less. But I fail to see how a man engaging sexually with another man, regardless of how he presents himself in the world, could ever be described as straight. And that's perfectly fine and nothing to get your knickers in a twist about. |
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"Yet they lie on their profile by refusing to admit they are interested in meeting tgirls.
That's my point."
They don’t want to get labelled, or ruin their chances with women. |
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"Asked once a week, for the past few years. Their sexuality is dependent on their attraction to gender(s). Even straight men can still have sex with full men and remain straight. Think of gay for pay actors and sex workers. "
Not in the real world! |
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"I wouldn't try and read to much into it. I've had guys explain to me that they're completely str8,moments before or after me fucking their str8 asses to orgasm. "
They're so full of shite sometimes! |
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