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Why do people dislike fat people so much?
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Sorry for the rant. Happy Sunday.
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"Do you think of fetishising it as negative? " I personally do, yes. | |||
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"Do you think of fetishising it as negative? " What counts as fetishising? I definitely am only into bigger women. Is that fetishising ? | |||
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People are awful about other people for whatever perceived wrong they decide to justify their shitty behaviour with.
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"Because they think we are: Lazy Slovenly Smelly Unpleasant to look at Disgusting creatures with no self respect and no feelings But they be wrong. " This about sums it up. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal " This ?? you just have to look at reality TV, magazines will feature an actress one week looking amazing a month later a not so flattering picture is taken and she's ripped apart over letting herself go. There's a book " You're not a before picture " by Alex light and she makes a very good comparison to Disney princesses and the female baddies. The female baddies are the fat, lazy ugly ones, greedy ie Ursula, Governor Ratcliffe. | |||
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"Do you think of fetishising it as negative? What counts as fetishising? I definitely am only into bigger women. Is that fetishising ?" You are slimphobic. | |||
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"I find society associates being fat with being lazy. Undisciplined. Indulgent. Etc. All traits that are incompatible with being productive under capitalism. Because being fat is seen as a behavioural choice associated to other bad behavioural choices, and being inherently unhealthy, it's acceptable to shame people. However we all know shame is the least motivating thing when it comes to long term change. We also know that being fat doesn't mean unhealthy or lazy etc. We also know that there are a lot of medical reasons for people being over weight. I think about this a lot lol. Health at every size movement 5eva. " I agree with what you have written about how society views it and I also believe fat people aren't all necessarily lazy, there are many reasons why people put on weight etc. However I do disagree with you on health grounds. No matter who you are being over weight, fat whatever the correct term is. It is unhealthy for that individual compared to if they weren't as overweight. Life expectancy is shorter, risks during operations for example are higher. Being over weight is unhealthy, but it doesn't mean that person is any less of a person or lazy. I for one go up and down in weight constantly. Christmas especially. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal This ?? you just have to look at reality TV, magazines will feature an actress one week looking amazing a month later a not so flattering picture is taken and she's ripped apart over letting herself go. There's a book " You're not a before picture " by Alex light and she makes a very good comparison to Disney princesses and the female baddies. The female baddies are the fat, lazy ugly ones, greedy ie Ursula, Governor Ratcliffe. " Are they? Malificent, Cruella, Grothel, the evil queen, Yzma Plenty of nasty thin characters | |||
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"Yet you have posted negative threads on age and suggested people who dont get meets should accept they are ugly....ok " Ah but you need to know that OP is considered a saint in these parts and you mustn’t point out the hypocrisy of his various positions  | |||
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"I find society associates being fat with being lazy. Undisciplined. Indulgent. Etc. All traits that are incompatible with being productive under capitalism. Because being fat is seen as a behavioural choice associated to other bad behavioural choices, and being inherently unhealthy, it's acceptable to shame people. However we all know shame is the least motivating thing when it comes to long term change. We also know that being fat doesn't mean unhealthy or lazy etc. We also know that there are a lot of medical reasons for people being over weight. I think about this a lot lol. Health at every size movement 5eva. " The link with capitalism is undeniable. Though it’s changed through time. I said it on another thread but Susan Bordo has written some great stuff on it. Thanks for this comment | |||
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"Yet you have posted negative threads on age and suggested people who dont get meets should accept they are ugly....ok " ,, has he really.. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal " That’s very simplistic. No one needs to point anything out to anyone . Your weight, your body what are you doing with it it’s your own business and if you want other peoples opinions or advice you can ask. People of all weights can be extremely unhealthy for different kinds of reasons to do with diet ,,alcohol, smoking and lifestyle. And bigger people can sometimes be extremely healthy and train hard and eat well | |||
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"Because they think we are: Lazy Slovenly Smelly Unpleasant to look at Disgusting creatures with no self respect and no feelings But they be wrong. " That’s how some people see us larger people | |||
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"I’m morbidly obese and I think the fact that there isn’t a larger option to put on your profile is as bad as shaming …. You feel it’s basically saying you’re not welcome here …. Just call yourself fabulous as no one wants any form of honesty " I use the ‘large’ option | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal " This. | |||
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"In Victorian times and before being fat was a sign of wealth as you could afford to eat well. It was widely excepted and fashionable. Being slim/skinny was if you were poor, a peasant. You were looked down on. But know it seems to be the reverse? " The Tories are working on reversing this. Poverty for the win! | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal That’s very simplistic. No one needs to point anything out to anyone . Your weight, your body what are you doing with it it’s your own business and if you want other peoples opinions or advice you can ask. People of all weights can be extremely unhealthy for different kinds of reasons to do with diet ,,alcohol, smoking and lifestyle. And bigger people can sometimes be extremely healthy and train hard and eat well" I don’t think any of that doesn’t align with the points I made You can be big and still train. You can be thin and still be unhealthy But being overweight is unhealthy in itself, regardless of exercise lifestyle or diet I don’t think anyone should be shamed, and I don’t think anyone needs to be told they are overweight (outside of children that genuinely might not know) But a lot of misinformation about weight is slowly spreading and many people believe being over weight isn’t unhealthy. Again, no need to shame, but we shouldn’t hide from facts because they might upset someone. It’s unhealthy and you will have better health outcomes in general if you aren’t overweight | |||
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"Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia " Whose position is it to point this out tho? Your mum and aunties nagging you every day? Your mates down the pub? The stranger on the street? TV presenters? At which point of overweight becomes unhealthy? I can't wait for GLP-1 agonists to be rolled out to the general population, and see how the picture changes. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal That’s very simplistic. No one needs to point anything out to anyone . Your weight, your body what are you doing with it it’s your own business and if you want other peoples opinions or advice you can ask. People of all weights can be extremely unhealthy for different kinds of reasons to do with diet ,,alcohol, smoking and lifestyle. And bigger people can sometimes be extremely healthy and train hard and eat well" This. Even when I was at my healthiest, eating well and hiking basically every day, I never dropped below 90kg. My body sits in balance there. Also healthy weight is also about your mental health. I'm in recovery for an ED that came about due to fat shaming. Focusing too much on what I eat etc will cause a recurrence. So it's about balance. Also worth noting when you control for medical bias (eg, not investigating symptoms in plus sized people and delaying tests because "just lost weight"), a lot of the medical implications drop in causality significantly. | |||
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" I can't wait for GLP-1 agonists to be rolled out to the general population, and see how the picture changes." Same here. Will be very interesting | |||
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"Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Whose position is it to point this out tho? Your mum and aunties nagging you every day? Your mates down the pub? The stranger on the street? TV presenters? At which point of overweight becomes unhealthy? I can't wait for GLP-1 agonists to be rolled out to the general population, and see how the picture changes." Is that the thing the NHS is offering in some cases now? Semo-something? | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal " I think this attitude is part of the problem if I’m honest. It’s as though there is an entitlement to comment on people’s bodies because they’re fat. You may not see that as shaming, but it still is. Pointing out it’s not healthy to be overweight, unless you’ve specifically been asked for your opinion, is rude. It happens all the time. Fat people are fair game apparently. | |||
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"I cannot stand the fatphobia and how brazen people are with it. I can’t stand when people think they can talk about people negatively around you because they think it doesn’t apply to you (though I feel it does but whatever). Sorry for the rant but I literally can’t stand the body shaming. I really can’t.
Sorry for the rant. Happy Sunday.
I’m off out so won’t reply to all- this isn’t a grenade thread. Is welcome discussion and positive vibes. "Because we're seen as lazy and slovenly People assume that when someone is fat that they sit on their arse all day and eat everything in sight I have a long long list of foods I don't eat for various reasons, when I tell people I'm a picky eater I'm ALWAYS met with shock, like people are thinking "how can she be a picky eater when she's so fat?" And when people tell me I need to be more active, I do aprx 9-12k steps a day - 5 days a week and that's just while I'm at work (yes I use a step meter, this isn't a guess), again I'm met with shock and asked "are you sure?" "How are you measuring those steps"
I have a hormone imbalance as many women do and my cortisol levels are all over the gaff which makes it difficult for me to lose weight | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal " Unless someone asks you why do you need to point it out? | |||
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"Yet you have posted negative threads on age and suggested people who dont get meets should accept they are ugly....ok " I did a joking thread about people not getting meets because they’re ugly and accepted it was upsetting for some and apologised to those offended. The people in that accepted it was a joke or already knew. In relation to age, again I’ve never done a serious post or thread being ageist. I appreciate that my humour isn’t for everyone on here but yeah. Anyway you’re entitled to your opinion on me  | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal " Yep, this.
I think there’s an element of personal responsibility, lifestyle choice, etc. But there’s also the fact that elements of our modern day environment are also to blame. Namely the junk food and fast food industries; the availability of hyper-palatable, calorie-rich, ultra-processed foods, and all the marketing around them, designed to target our minds and literally alter our palates and brain chemistry so that we consume bigger portions and crave more often.
As animals we’ve never had such easy and quick access to this amount of sugar, salt and fat, nor have we ever had such sedentary lifestyles. A disastrous combo. Our hunter-gatherer bodies and minds simply haven’t been able to catch up to these changes. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal I think this attitude is part of the problem if I’m honest. It’s as though there is an entitlement to comment on people’s bodies because they’re fat. You may not see that as shaming, but it still is. Pointing out it’s not healthy to be overweight, unless you’ve specifically been asked for your opinion, is rude. It happens all the time. Fat people are fair game apparently. " Exactly. | |||
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"Because they think we are: Lazy Slovenly Smelly Unpleasant to look at Disgusting creatures with no self respect and no feelings .. But they be wrong. That’s how some people see us larger people " ... well heres one guy that defo doesnt,, | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal I think this attitude is part of the problem if I’m honest. It’s as though there is an entitlement to comment on people’s bodies because they’re fat. You may not see that as shaming, but it still is. Pointing out it’s not healthy to be overweight, unless you’ve specifically been asked for your opinion, is rude. It happens all the time. Fat people are fair game apparently. " Maybe I should have been more clear I didn’t mean you should tell people they are fat and it’s unhealthy I mean we as a society shouldn’t pretend being overweight isn’t unhealthy Hope that clears things up | |||
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"Maybe we should all stop normalising any comments in relation to our bodies " This | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal I think this attitude is part of the problem if I’m honest. It’s as though there is an entitlement to comment on people’s bodies because they’re fat. You may not see that as shaming, but it still is. Pointing out it’s not healthy to be overweight, unless you’ve specifically been asked for your opinion, is rude. It happens all the time. Fat people are fair game apparently. Maybe I should have been more clear I didn’t mean you should tell people they are fat and it’s unhealthy I mean we as a society shouldn’t pretend being overweight isn’t unhealthy Hope that clears things up " Society doesn't pretend this at all loooolllll Also weight isn't an indication of health | |||
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"Maybe we should all stop normalising any comments in relation to our bodies This " | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal I think this attitude is part of the problem if I’m honest. It’s as though there is an entitlement to comment on people’s bodies because they’re fat. You may not see that as shaming, but it still is. Pointing out it’s not healthy to be overweight, unless you’ve specifically been asked for your opinion, is rude. It happens all the time. Fat people are fair game apparently. Maybe I should have been more clear I didn’t mean you should tell people they are fat and it’s unhealthy I mean we as a society shouldn’t pretend being overweight isn’t unhealthy Hope that clears things up Society doesn't pretend this at all loooolllll Also weight isn't an indication of health " You’ve just done it though haven’t you? Being overweight is an indication someone has an unhealthy weight that can cause health issues So it’s clearly 1 indicator of health | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal Yep, this.
I think there’s an element of personal responsibility, lifestyle choice, etc. But there’s also the fact that elements of our modern day environment are also to blame. Namely the junk food and fast food industries; the availability of hyper-palatable, calorie-rich, ultra-processed foods, and all the marketing around them, designed to target our minds and literally alter our palates and brain chemistry so that we consume bigger portions and crave more often.
As animals we’ve never had such easy and quick access to this amount of sugar, salt and fat, nor have we ever had such sedentary lifestyles. A disastrous combo. Our hunter-gatherer bodies and minds simply haven’t been able to catch up to these changes."Yes! | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal That’s very simplistic. No one needs to point anything out to anyone . Your weight, your body what are you doing with it it’s your own business and if you want other peoples opinions or advice you can ask. People of all weights can be extremely unhealthy for different kinds of reasons to do with diet ,,alcohol, smoking and lifestyle. And bigger people can sometimes be extremely healthy and train hard and eat well I don’t think any of that doesn’t align with the points I made You can be big and still train. You can be thin and still be unhealthy But being overweight is unhealthy in itself, regardless of exercise lifestyle or diet I don’t think anyone should be shamed, and I don’t think anyone needs to be told they are overweight (outside of children that genuinely might not know) But a lot of misinformation about weight is slowly spreading and many people believe being over weight isn’t unhealthy. Again, no need to shame, but we shouldn’t hide from facts because they might upset someone. It’s unhealthy and you will have better health outcomes in general if you aren’t overweight "
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal I think this attitude is part of the problem if I’m honest. It’s as though there is an entitlement to comment on people’s bodies because they’re fat. You may not see that as shaming, but it still is. Pointing out it’s not healthy to be overweight, unless you’ve specifically been asked for your opinion, is rude. It happens all the time. Fat people are fair game apparently. Maybe I should have been more clear I didn’t mean you should tell people they are fat and it’s unhealthy I mean we as a society shouldn’t pretend being overweight isn’t unhealthy Hope that clears things up Society doesn't pretend this at all loooolllll Also weight isn't an indication of health You’ve just done it though haven’t you? Being overweight is an indication someone has an unhealthy weight that can cause health issues So it’s clearly 1 indicator of health " No I haven't weight isn't an indication of health Someone can be a 'normal' weight and have a whole post of health problems Someone can be 1 stone over weight and has a full bill of health The comment is was disputing was "society shouldn’t pretend being overweight isn’t unhealthy" society doesn't do this at all and I say this as a person who has been overweight for most of their life, society is VERY quick to blame someone being overweight for any little problem they have related to their bodies. Try going to your gp as a fat person for someone completely unrelated to your weight and then come back and say that "sOcIeTy ShOuLdN’t PrEtEnD bEiNg OvErWeIgHt IsN’t UnHeAlThY" | |||
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"I find society associates being fat with being lazy. Undisciplined. Indulgent. Etc. All traits that are incompatible with being productive under capitalism. Because being fat is seen as a behavioural choice associated to other bad behavioural choices, and being inherently unhealthy, it's acceptable to shame people. However we all know shame is the least motivating thing when it comes to long term change. We also know that being fat doesn't mean unhealthy or lazy etc. We also know that there are a lot of medical reasons for people being over weight. I think about this a lot lol. Health at every size movement 5eva. " I applaud the use of the 'c' word. I also agree that in this culture the driving force is the C word. In terms of reducing humans to their production-value. However, I don't see it as being specific to capitalism: the same has occurred in Authoritarian communist societies. The issue, as I see it, is hierarchical structures. Authoritarianism. With the solution being Anarchism or Libertarianism in the original usage of the word. Non-hierarchical distributions of power. A society which respects individual autonomy would also be less likely to engage in shaming. That's their body, it's their choice what they do with it. I don't think people all know that shaming is the least motivating way to promote change. I think it is seen as something very effective, in our society, and some even revel in it. There's a lot of evidence now that the historical push to reduce obesity and childhood obesity has caused huge MH issues and doubled child ED diagnoses. Also a rise in the social acceptability of body-shaming. There was a gov paper on it a couple of years ago calling for emergency changes to policy. I have thought about it a lot. I was worried about this years ago, when I saw it being implemented in schools. One of those situations in life where I saw it coming and feel no satisfaction that I was right. I don't mean to be challenging. Just offering a similar but also different perspective. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal I think this attitude is part of the problem if I’m honest. It’s as though there is an entitlement to comment on people’s bodies because they’re fat. You may not see that as shaming, but it still is. Pointing out it’s not healthy to be overweight, unless you’ve specifically been asked for your opinion, is rude. It happens all the time. Fat people are fair game apparently. Maybe I should have been more clear I didn’t mean you should tell people they are fat and it’s unhealthy I mean we as a society shouldn’t pretend being overweight isn’t unhealthy Hope that clears things up Society doesn't pretend this at all loooolllll Also weight isn't an indication of health You’ve just done it though haven’t you? Being overweight is an indication someone has an unhealthy weight that can cause health issues So it’s clearly 1 indicator of health No I haven't weight isn't an indication of health Someone can be a 'normal' weight and have a whole post of health problems Someone can be 1 stone over weight and has a full bill of health The comment is was disputing was "society shouldn’t pretend being overweight isn’t unhealthy" society doesn't do this at all and I say this as a person who has been overweight for most of their life, society is VERY quick to blame someone being overweight for any little problem they have related to their bodies. Try going to your gp as a fat person for someone completely unrelated to your weight and then come back and say that "sOcIeTy ShOuLdN’t PrEtEnD bEiNg OvErWeIgHt IsN’t UnHeAlThY" "Hmm, guess we can agree to disagree on that. The literature on the effects of obesity are so much that it’s not worth debating | |||
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"Yet you have posted negative threads on age and suggested people who dont get meets should accept they are ugly....ok I did a joking thread about people not getting meets because they’re ugly and accepted it was upsetting for some and apologised to those offended. The people in that accepted it was a joke or already knew. In relation to age, again I’ve never done a serious post or thread being ageist. I appreciate that my humour isn’t for everyone on here but yeah. Anyway you’re entitled to your opinion on me "Ah it was only a joke ok .... maybe think twice about making 'jokes' like that. I'd bet your comments upset more people than it made laugh at your 'joke'. I have no opinion on you personally, you're not someone I'd get to know well enough to develop an opinion on but I will comment on threads like this where you diss people for doing the same things you have done yourself. But hey....just joking. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal I think this attitude is part of the problem if I’m honest. It’s as though there is an entitlement to comment on people’s bodies because they’re fat. You may not see that as shaming, but it still is. Pointing out it’s not healthy to be overweight, unless you’ve specifically been asked for your opinion, is rude. It happens all the time. Fat people are fair game apparently. Maybe I should have been more clear I didn’t mean you should tell people they are fat and it’s unhealthy I mean we as a society shouldn’t pretend being overweight isn’t unhealthy Hope that clears things up Society doesn't pretend this at all loooolllll Also weight isn't an indication of health You’ve just done it though haven’t you? Being overweight is an indication someone has an unhealthy weight that can cause health issues So it’s clearly 1 indicator of health No I haven't weight isn't an indication of health Someone can be a 'normal' weight and have a whole post of health problems Someone can be 1 stone over weight and has a full bill of health The comment is was disputing was "society shouldn’t pretend being overweight isn’t unhealthy" society doesn't do this at all and I say this as a person who has been overweight for most of their life, society is VERY quick to blame someone being overweight for any little problem they have related to their bodies. Try going to your gp as a fat person for someone completely unrelated to your weight and then come back and say that "sOcIeTy ShOuLdN’t PrEtEnD bEiNg OvErWeIgHt IsN’t UnHeAlThY"
Hmm, guess we can agree to disagree on that. The literature on the effects of obesity are so much that it’s not worth debating "There's so much literature on the effects of obesity yet at the same time you're claiming that society is telling people that being overweight isn't healthy. Ok | |||
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"Yet you have posted negative threads on age and suggested people who dont get meets should accept they are ugly....ok I did a joking thread about people not getting meets because they’re ugly and accepted it was upsetting for some and apologised to those offended. The people in that accepted it was a joke or already knew. In relation to age, again I’ve never done a serious post or thread being ageist. I appreciate that my humour isn’t for everyone on here but yeah. Anyway you’re entitled to your opinion on me
Ah it was only a joke ok .... maybe think twice about making 'jokes' like that. I'd bet your comments upset more people than it made laugh at your 'joke'. I have no opinion on you personally, you're not someone I'd get to know well enough to develop an opinion on but I will comment on threads like this where you diss people for doing the same things you have done yourself.
But hey....just joking."People make jokes on the forum all the times are you going to go after every person who makes a joke that you don't like or just Steve? | |||
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"I can exercise as much as the next guy, lift 250kg weights, walk 50 miles in a week.....Still chunky "One of the reasons why weight isn’t the only indicator of health Sure, you might be healthier if you slimmed down But with that much activity your probably fitter than most That’s an important message to put out there | |||
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These two examples for me illustrate that the "health concerns" used for harassing fat people is often an excuse. | |||
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"I can exercise as much as the next guy, lift 250kg weights, walk 50 miles in a week.....Still chunky "At the risk of assumption, your weight is mostly dictated by your diet and not so much by your exercise routine. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal You think I don't know I'm fat and need someone to point at me and say "Excuse me, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but you're at least 6 stone overweight, which, by the way, is unhealthy...you're welcome" Also, most people don't celebrate being fat. Most people accept they are and try to be less fat; which isn't a case of I'll eat less, move more and by next year I'll be slim and healthy. I've been slim, and I still had most of the problems I have now. I haven't lost two stone because someone opened my eyes to my fatness. What do you get out of telling people they're fat and unhealthy? " I clarified in a comment up there I’m not suggesting we tell people they’re overweight | |||
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"Yet you have posted negative threads on age and suggested people who dont get meets should accept they are ugly....ok I did a joking thread about people not getting meets because they’re ugly and accepted it was upsetting for some and apologised to those offended. The people in that accepted it was a joke or already knew. In relation to age, again I’ve never done a serious post or thread being ageist. I appreciate that my humour isn’t for everyone on here but yeah. Anyway you’re entitled to your opinion on me
Ah it was only a joke ok .... maybe think twice about making 'jokes' like that. I'd bet your comments upset more people than it made laugh at your 'joke'. I have no opinion on you personally, you're not someone I'd get to know well enough to develop an opinion on but I will comment on threads like this where you diss people for doing the same things you have done yourself.
But hey....just joking.
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"Media and advertising don't help promote body positivity either, people are conditioned to want to look a certain way, be a certain size and that reflects on the social media culture as well with the multitude of 'influencers' we see. Why can't healthy be promoted no matter the body shape? You can be fuller figured and healthy of course you can I was looking for gym gear recently and was browsing the Under Armour web site and very impressed that +size models were used to promote the brand....It was refreshing to see and helped me realise that potatoey shaped people like me do belong in the gym...." All people belong In a gym. Everyone has to start somewhere. I would and have pulled people up who have badmouthed any one out of shape in the gym that I go to . | |||
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"Yet you have posted negative threads on age and suggested people who dont get meets should accept they are ugly....ok I did a joking thread about people not getting meets because they’re ugly and accepted it was upsetting for some and apologised to those offended. The people in that accepted it was a joke or already knew. In relation to age, again I’ve never done a serious post or thread being ageist. I appreciate that my humour isn’t for everyone on here but yeah. Anyway you’re entitled to your opinion on me
Ah it was only a joke ok .... maybe think twice about making 'jokes' like that. I'd bet your comments upset more people than it made laugh at your 'joke'. I have no opinion on you personally, you're not someone I'd get to know well enough to develop an opinion on but I will comment on threads like this where you diss people for doing the same things you have done yourself.
But hey....just joking.
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"Yet you have posted negative threads on age and suggested people who dont get meets should accept they are ugly....ok I did a joking thread about people not getting meets because they’re ugly and accepted it was upsetting for some and apologised to those offended. The people in that accepted it was a joke or already knew. In relation to age, again I’ve never done a serious post or thread being ageist. I appreciate that my humour isn’t for everyone on here but yeah. Anyway you’re entitled to your opinion on me
Ah it was only a joke ok .... maybe think twice about making 'jokes' like that. I'd bet your comments upset more people than it made laugh at your 'joke'. I have no opinion on you personally, you're not someone I'd get to know well enough to develop an opinion on but I will comment on threads like this where you diss people for doing the same things you have done yourself.
But hey....just joking."Anyway, I’m going to be so real with you, I literally don’t care about any of that. I don’t even know you. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal You think I don't know I'm fat and need someone to point at me and say "Excuse me, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but you're at least 6 stone overweight, which, by the way, is unhealthy...you're welcome" Also, most people don't celebrate being fat. Most people accept they are and try to be less fat; which isn't a case of I'll eat less, move more and by next year I'll be slim and healthy. I've been slim, and I still had most of the problems I have now. I haven't lost two stone because someone opened my eyes to my fatness. What do you get out of telling people they're fat and unhealthy? I clarified in a comment up there I’m not suggesting we tell people they’re overweight " Oh, so just don't support them when they aren't depressed about being fat and trying to stay positive about it? No, you go girl to the obese women who parade their bodies on Social Media because they've constantly been told they look grotesque. I get it. Not fat people want fat people to be happy and healthy by being slim like them. My ex called me a fat doughnut eating cunt when I put on 9 stone-through illness I might add. Recently he almost died from a smoking related disease. At least he wasn't overweight though, eh. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal You think I don't know I'm fat and need someone to point at me and say "Excuse me, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but you're at least 6 stone overweight, which, by the way, is unhealthy...you're welcome" Also, most people don't celebrate being fat. Most people accept they are and try to be less fat; which isn't a case of I'll eat less, move more and by next year I'll be slim and healthy. I've been slim, and I still had most of the problems I have now. I haven't lost two stone because someone opened my eyes to my fatness. What do you get out of telling people they're fat and unhealthy? I clarified in a comment up there I’m not suggesting we tell people they’re overweight Oh, so just don't support them when they aren't depressed about being fat and trying to stay positive about it? No, you go girl to the obese women who parade their bodies on Social Media because they've constantly been told they look grotesque. I get it. Not fat people want fat people to be happy and healthy by being slim like them. My ex called me a fat doughnut eating cunt when I put on 9 stone-through illness I might add. Recently he almost died from a smoking related disease. At least he wasn't overweight though, eh. " Since your trying to twist things and put words in my mouth, I’ll leave you to it I didn’t mean to upset you and I hope your doing ok | |||
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"Media and advertising don't help promote body positivity either, people are conditioned to want to look a certain way, be a certain size and that reflects on the social media culture as well with the multitude of 'influencers' we see. Why can't healthy be promoted no matter the body shape? You can be fuller figured and healthy of course you can I was looking for gym gear recently and was browsing the Under Armour web site and very impressed that +size models were used to promote the brand....It was refreshing to see and helped me realise that potatoey shaped people like me do belong in the gym.... All people belong In a gym. Everyone has to start somewhere. I would and have pulled people up who have badmouthed any one out of shape in the gym that I go to ." I know this, you know this...Not everyone knows this. I have lost half a stone since going to the gym along with zumba, boxing and swimming.....there was a time where I felt I didn't belong because of my size | |||
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"*throws grenade* “This isn’t a grenade thread...” good work, OP!
what’s your beef, Dan? Honestly are people not allowed to start threads on topics that annoy them?
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"Steve, without sounding glib or dismissive of something that isn't fair or nice it's life mate.. It's the same as other likes and dislikes that we all have, concentrate on the positive people with whom you share common likes etc and don't let it get you down .." I hear you. I have recently let so many things not dominate my thoughts but I think I’m in a bad mood today. And I do apologise to all for that. | |||
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"I can exercise as much as the next guy, lift 250kg weights, walk 50 miles in a week.....Still chunky
At the risk of assumption, your weight is mostly dictated by your diet and not so much by your exercise routine.
I didn't want to ask him his diet regime.
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"Steve, without sounding glib or dismissive of something that isn't fair or nice it's life mate.. It's the same as other likes and dislikes that we all have, concentrate on the positive people with whom you share common likes etc and don't let it get you down .. I hear you. I have recently let so many things not dominate my thoughts but I think I’m in a bad mood today. And I do apologise to all for that." You don't need to apologise at all fella.. | |||
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"Steve, without sounding glib or dismissive of something that isn't fair or nice it's life mate.. It's the same as other likes and dislikes that we all have, concentrate on the positive people with whom you share common likes etc and don't let it get you down .. I hear you. I have recently let so many things not dominate my thoughts but I think I’m in a bad mood today. And I do apologise to all for that." So, if your in a bad mood Pickles, and are aware of it why post on here. So the question springs to mind, is this thread more about you and how you view yourself and how your percieved by others? Rather than any body shaming that goes on.... Just some food for thought. | |||
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"Media and advertising don't help promote body positivity either, people are conditioned to want to look a certain way, be a certain size and that reflects on the social media culture as well with the multitude of 'influencers' we see. Why can't healthy be promoted no matter the body shape? You can be fuller figured and healthy of course you can I was looking for gym gear recently and was browsing the Under Armour web site and very impressed that +size models were used to promote the brand....It was refreshing to see and helped me realise that potatoey shaped people like me do belong in the gym.... All people belong In a gym. Everyone has to start somewhere. I would and have pulled people up who have badmouthed any one out of shape in the gym that I go to . I know this, you know this...Not everyone knows this. I have lost half a stone since going to the gym along with zumba, boxing and swimming.....there was a time where I felt I didn't belong because of my size" That was my mrs too last Christmas when she started going to the gym with me she was 16 stone and hated going ,thinking everyone was watching here all the time. They really wasn't. Now she is a little under 11 stone and feels part of the family in there. The hardest part for her was her portion size of her meals have been halfed. No junk food and no take aways for her these days. | |||
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"Steve, without sounding glib or dismissive of something that isn't fair or nice it's life mate.. It's the same as other likes and dislikes that we all have, concentrate on the positive people with whom you share common likes etc and don't let it get you down .. I hear you. I have recently let so many things not dominate my thoughts but I think I’m in a bad mood today. And I do apologise to all for that. So, if your in a bad mood Pickles, and are aware of it why post on here. So the question springs to mind, is this thread more about you and how you view yourself and how your percieved by others? Rather than any body shaming that goes on.... Just some food for thought." No it’s about body shaming that people do in my presence about other people. I didn’t post it knowing I was in a bad mood. I have reflected since because of some of the comments. | |||
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At the risk of assumption, your weight is mostly dictated by your diet and not so much by your exercise routine.
I didn't want to ask him his diet regime.
So thanks for pointing it out.
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Then and only then will the minds be strong rather than weakened by the ‘gram life’
Remember all….. what you are on the medias…. Isn’t all day everyday life …..
Focus on achievements of you and yours….. and help those around you if you can…..
Positive words and actions go a long way
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"I can exercise as much as the next guy, lift 250kg weights, walk 50 miles in a week.....Still chunky
At the risk of assumption, your weight is mostly dictated by your diet and not so much by your exercise routine.
I didn't want to ask him his diet regime.
So thanks for pointing it out.
The usual....breakfast cereal, sandwich then evening meal. Rarely drink alcohol. Hope that helps
If you go to the gym like you suggest you would know breakfast cereal and bread are a no no.
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal You think I don't know I'm fat and need someone to point at me and say "Excuse me, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but you're at least 6 stone overweight, which, by the way, is unhealthy...you're welcome" Also, most people don't celebrate being fat. Most people accept they are and try to be less fat; which isn't a case of I'll eat less, move more and by next year I'll be slim and healthy. I've been slim, and I still had most of the problems I have now. I haven't lost two stone because someone opened my eyes to my fatness. What do you get out of telling people they're fat and unhealthy? I clarified in a comment up there I’m not suggesting we tell people they’re overweight Oh, so just don't support them when they aren't depressed about being fat and trying to stay positive about it? No, you go girl to the obese women who parade their bodies on Social Media because they've constantly been told they look grotesque. I get it. Not fat people want fat people to be happy and healthy by being slim like them. My ex called me a fat doughnut eating cunt when I put on 9 stone-through illness I might add. Recently he almost died from a smoking related disease. At least he wasn't overweight though, eh. Since your trying to twist things and put words in my mouth, I’ll leave you to it I didn’t mean to upset you and I hope your doing ok "I'm not upset, and I'm doing ok apart from low folates and my iron levels dropping. I'm fat, not sensitive. I may have lost track of your words a bit, so I'll apologise as I'm suffering with brain fog from low folates and iron at the moment. I'm not diabetic though, which I thought was probably the problem, so yay to that. I know being unhealthy shouldn't be celebrated but people with bad diets who are slim and/or smoke are rarely lectured on it. I do tell my girls they should try to cut down on the smoking though, because of the serious health implications, so, I'm a hypocrit, I suppose. | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal You think I don't know I'm fat and need someone to point at me and say "Excuse me, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but you're at least 6 stone overweight, which, by the way, is unhealthy...you're welcome" Also, most people don't celebrate being fat. Most people accept they are and try to be less fat; which isn't a case of I'll eat less, move more and by next year I'll be slim and healthy. I've been slim, and I still had most of the problems I have now. I haven't lost two stone because someone opened my eyes to my fatness. What do you get out of telling people they're fat and unhealthy? I clarified in a comment up there I’m not suggesting we tell people they’re overweight Oh, so just don't support them when they aren't depressed about being fat and trying to stay positive about it? No, you go girl to the obese women who parade their bodies on Social Media because they've constantly been told they look grotesque. I get it. Not fat people want fat people to be happy and healthy by being slim like them. My ex called me a fat doughnut eating cunt when I put on 9 stone-through illness I might add. Recently he almost died from a smoking related disease. At least he wasn't overweight though, eh. Since your trying to twist things and put words in my mouth, I’ll leave you to it I didn’t mean to upset you and I hope your doing ok
I'm not upset, and I'm doing ok apart from low folates and my iron levels dropping. I'm fat, not sensitive. I may have lost track of your words a bit, so I'll apologise as I'm suffering with brain fog from low folates and iron at the moment.
I'm not diabetic though, which I thought was probably the problem, so yay to that.
I know being unhealthy shouldn't be celebrated but people with bad diets who are slim and/or smoke are rarely lectured on it.
I do tell my girls they should try to cut down on the smoking though, because of the serious health implications, so, I'm a hypocrit, I suppose.
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"Sorry that I was busy so can’t reply to everyone. But I’m not talking about people that are apparently concerned with the health of strangers or any of that shit. I’m talking about fatphobia. I’m talking about people that are horrible to and about fat people and create a culture that shakes fat people for simply daring to exist In certain spaces or at all. "I understood what you meant ftom.your original question, I think like all threads they develop tangents and go a bit of track. Some on the biggest fat shaming I've read has actually been on fab on most BBW profiles where they are open they are over weight or big or fat whatever they chose to call themselves but are then also very quick to state they are only after men who are slim, athletic and muscular. I feel they aren't really helping there own cause. They want acceptance of their own overweight body but won't accept in men they want. Obviously this is not the case for all BBWs and I know there are over weight men wanting only slim women. But how is anyone's mindset going to change if this is acceptable? | |||
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" I think there’s an element of personal responsibility, lifestyle choice, etc. But there’s also the fact that elements of our modern day environment are also to blame. Namely the junk food and fast food industries; the availability of hyper-palatable, calorie-rich, ultra-processed foods, and all the marketing around them, designed to target our minds and literally alter our palates and brain chemistry so that we consume bigger portions and crave more often. As animals we’ve never had such easy and quick access to this amount of sugar, salt and fat, nor have we ever had such sedentary lifestyles. A disastrous combo. Our hunter-gatherer bodies and minds simply haven’t been able to catch up to these changes." This is all true. Unfortunately the narrative spun by the food, fitness and health care services, does not correlate with reality. It is type of foods and the hormonal response they create that causes weight loss or gain. Telling people to eat less and move more, paints the picture of fat people sitting round all day, troughing without consideration for their own health or wellbeing. When I was overweight, I certainly believed this. Now, after losing 4 stone in 4 months, eating all that I wanted, I realise that it is what they want us to believe. If we blame ourselves it's easier then to sell us the crap that is really the cause. To enhance that sale, the idea that mocking fat people in comedy over 40 years, emphasised the blame aspect. Then people started to challenge the "shaming" and the body positive ideal then started to compensate for the previous abuse. Now, there are people out there telling people it's OK to be fat and to embrace it. So, we have gone from one extreme to another.But both ends of the scale result in the same thing...massive sales of processed food like substances, to an increasingly obese population who are sicker yet still often feel like they are doing the right thing to be healthy. So then genes get the blame when bodies don't respond to the low fat, high carb, processed food rubbish that is touted as the healthy way to eat. Truth is, as you said, our hunter ancestors evolved to eat a certain way, one which is actively discouraged by every health, diet, and fitness association in modern day society. It's that narrative that paints the overweight in a negative light. It certainly isn't their "fault". | |||
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"Steve, without sounding glib or dismissive of something that isn't fair or nice it's life mate.. It's the same as other likes and dislikes that we all have, concentrate on the positive people with whom you share common likes etc and don't let it get you down .. I hear you. I have recently let so many things not dominate my thoughts but I think I’m in a bad mood today. And I do apologise to all for that. So, if your in a bad mood Pickles, and are aware of it why post on here. So the question springs to mind, is this thread more about you and how you view yourself and how your percieved by others? Rather than any body shaming that goes on.... Just some food for thought. No it’s about body shaming that people do in my presence about other people. I didn’t post it knowing I was in a bad mood. I have reflected since because of some of the comments. "Like i said, was just some food for thought...is all | |||
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"I can exercise as much as the next guy, lift 250kg weights, walk 50 miles in a week.....Still chunky
At the risk of assumption, your weight is mostly dictated by your diet and not so much by your exercise routine.
I didn't want to ask him his diet regime.
So thanks for pointing it out.
The usual....breakfast cereal, sandwich then evening meal. Rarely drink alcohol. Hope that helps
If you go to the gym like you suggest you would know breakfast cereal and bread are a no no.
Really?
Surely what matters is a balanced diet and if cereal and bread make up the carbs part of your balanced diet then why wouldn’t you eat them?
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"Sorry that I was busy so can’t reply to everyone. But I’m not talking about people that are apparently concerned with the health of strangers or any of that shit. I’m talking about fatphobia. I’m talking about people that are horrible to and about fat people and create a culture that shakes fat people for simply daring to exist In certain spaces or at all.
I understood what you meant ftom.your original question, I think like all threads they develop tangents and go a bit of track.
Some on the biggest fat shaming I've read has actually been on fab on most BBW profiles where they are open they are over weight or big or fat whatever they chose to call themselves but are then also very quick to state they are only after men who are slim, athletic and muscular.
I feel they aren't really helping there own cause. They want acceptance of their own overweight body but won't accept in men they want.
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"Here is a question for all those who think they know. What BMI is associated with the best life span as of the 2020s? Thats easy, its 69 Sensible answers only please 42" OK Dad,.its 69.1 | |||
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"So the question springs to mind, is this thread more about you and how you view yourself and how your percieved by others? Rather than any body shaming that goes on.... Just some food for thought." Noooo not more food!
So you may not know this if you've never struggled with weight or not been in an environment of sustained fat or other body shaming. When subjected to these attitudes from a young age it destroys your self perception. The effect is that you end up hating the thing you are being shamed for, both in yourself and others. Loads of fat people suffer from internalised fathobia, it can go against your logical beliefs. So yes you made a good point, but body shaming caused it. | |||
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"So the question springs to mind, is this thread more about you and how you view yourself and how your percieved by others? Rather than any body shaming that goes on.... Just some food for thought. Noooo not more food!
So you may not know this if you've never struggled with weight or not been in an environment of sustained fat or other body shaming. When subjected to these attitudes from a young age it destroys your self perception. The effect is that you end up hating the thing you are being shamed for, both in yourself and others. Loads of fat people suffer from internalised fathobia, it can go against your logical beliefs. So yes you made a good point, but body shaming caused it."Listen I'm a fat bastard of a train wreck, went to a all boys military school, always carried extra weight, was ridiculed and publicly embarrassed about it. But I don't have any negative self-percptions about carrying any extra weight. No the body shaming hasent caused it, the Interlization of the what you've heard has caused it. So on based on your rational, we would believe everything that we're told consistently over time, which just isn't the case. It's all about we frame things on a internal level, and how we apply this narrative to ourselves, also how we make these things mean to us... | |||
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"Sorry that I was busy so can’t reply to everyone. But I’m not talking about people that are apparently concerned with the health of strangers or any of that shit. I’m talking about fatphobia. I’m talking about people that are horrible to and about fat people and create a culture that shakes fat people for simply daring to exist In certain spaces or at all.
I understood what you meant ftom.your original question, I think like all threads they develop tangents and go a bit of track.
Some on the biggest fat shaming I've read has actually been on fab on most BBW profiles where they are open they are over weight or big or fat whatever they chose to call themselves but are then also very quick to state they are only after men who are slim, athletic and muscular.
I feel they aren't really helping there own cause. They want acceptance of their own overweight body but won't accept in men they want.
Obviously this is not the case for all BBWs and I know there are over weight men wanting only slim women. But how is anyone's mindset going to change if this is acceptable?
There's a difference between fat shaming and having a preference for slim partners."If you read the OPs question again it's not about fat shaming. It's about fatphobia and people disliking fat people. So my observation about fat people not wanting fat partners fits in with this question. | |||
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"Sorry that I was busy so can’t reply to everyone. But I’m not talking about people that are apparently concerned with the health of strangers or any of that shit. I’m talking about fatphobia. I’m talking about people that are horrible to and about fat people and create a culture that shakes fat people for simply daring to exist In certain spaces or at all.
I understood what you meant ftom.your original question, I think like all threads they develop tangents and go a bit of track.
Some on the biggest fat shaming I've read has actually been on fab on most BBW profiles where they are open they are over weight or big or fat whatever they chose to call themselves but are then also very quick to state they are only after men who are slim, athletic and muscular.
I feel they aren't really helping there own cause. They want acceptance of their own overweight body but won't accept in men they want.
Obviously this is not the case for all BBWs and I know there are over weight men wanting only slim women. But how is anyone's mindset going to change if this is acceptable?
There's a difference between fat shaming and having a preference for slim partners.
If you read the OPs question again it's not about fat shaming. It's about fatphobia and people disliking fat people. So my observation about fat people not wanting fat partners fits in with this question.
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"I cannot stand the fatphobia and how brazen people are with it. I can’t stand when people think they can talk about people negatively around you because they think it doesn’t apply to you (though I feel it does but whatever). Sorry for the rant but I literally can’t stand the body shaming. I really can’t.
Sorry for the rant. Happy Sunday.
I’m off out so won’t reply to all- this isn’t a grenade thread. Is welcome discussion and positive vibes. "I'm chubby and cheery. If people don't like it, fuck 'em. (Or not obvs) If people want to make derogatory comments about me, see above. Peoples negative views on me are of no consequence and have zero impact on my mental wellbeing. People are free to like me or not. NFG. *blows raspberry at the haters | |||
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"So the question springs to mind, is this thread more about you and how you view yourself and how your percieved by others? Rather than any body shaming that goes on.... Just some food for thought. Noooo not more food!
So you may not know this if you've never struggled with weight or not been in an environment of sustained fat or other body shaming. When subjected to these attitudes from a young age it destroys your self perception. The effect is that you end up hating the thing you are being shamed for, both in yourself and others. Loads of fat people suffer from internalised fathobia, it can go against your logical beliefs. So yes you made a good point, but body shaming caused it.
Listen I'm a fat bastard of a train wreck, went to a all boys military school, always carried extra weight, was ridiculed and publicly embarrassed about it. But I don't have any negative self-percptions about carrying any extra weight.
No the body shaming hasent caused it, the Interlization of the what you've heard has caused it. So on based on your rational, we would believe everything that we're told consistently over time, which just isn't the case.
It's all about we frame things on a internal level, and how we apply this narrative to ourselves, also how we make these things mean to us..."Wait I think your self perception might been affected a bit if you're describing yourself as a fat bastard of a train wreck  I see so many medium weight men describing themselves as fat, I presume for not being shredded, how do you explain that? | |||
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"Shaming people isn’t right Pointing out it’s not healthy to be over weight and it shouldn’t be celebrated or encouraged isn’t fatphobia Understanding each other and hoping for a healthier society in a supportive way is the goal I think this attitude is part of the problem if I’m honest. It’s as though there is an entitlement to comment on people’s bodies because they’re fat. You may not see that as shaming, but it still is. Pointing out it’s not healthy to be overweight, unless you’ve specifically been asked for your opinion, is rude. It happens all the time. Fat people are fair game apparently. Maybe I should have been more clear I didn’t mean you should tell people they are fat and it’s unhealthy I mean we as a society shouldn’t pretend being overweight isn’t unhealthy Hope that clears things up " Agree educate and inform of the risks. Allow people to decide for themselves. | |||
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"So the question springs to mind, is this thread more about you and how you view yourself and how your percieved by others? Rather than any body shaming that goes on.... Just some food for thought. Noooo not more food!
So you may not know this if you've never struggled with weight or not been in an environment of sustained fat or other body shaming. When subjected to these attitudes from a young age it destroys your self perception. The effect is that you end up hating the thing you are being shamed for, both in yourself and others. Loads of fat people suffer from internalised fathobia, it can go against your logical beliefs. So yes you made a good point, but body shaming caused it.
Listen I'm a fat bastard of a train wreck, went to a all boys military school, always carried extra weight, was ridiculed and publicly embarrassed about it. But I don't have any negative self-percptions about carrying any extra weight.
No the body shaming hasent caused it, the Interlization of the what you've heard has caused it. So on based on your rational, we would believe everything that we're told consistently over time, which just isn't the case.
It's all about we frame things on a internal level, and how we apply this narrative to ourselves, also how we make these things mean to us...
Wait I think your self perception might been affected a bit if you're describing yourself as a fat bastard of a train wreck I see so many medium weight men describing themselves as fat, I presume for not being shredded, how do you explain that? "That was just for emphasis, I dont carry that self perception of myself, it was simply for illustration purposes... | |||
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"So the question springs to mind, is this thread more about you and how you view yourself and how your percieved by others? Rather than any body shaming that goes on.... Just some food for thought. Noooo not more food!
So you may not know this if you've never struggled with weight or not been in an environment of sustained fat or other body shaming. When subjected to these attitudes from a young age it destroys your self perception. The effect is that you end up hating the thing you are being shamed for, both in yourself and others. Loads of fat people suffer from internalised fathobia, it can go against your logical beliefs. So yes you made a good point, but body shaming caused it.
Listen I'm a fat bastard of a train wreck, went to a all boys military school, always carried extra weight, was ridiculed and publicly embarrassed about it. But I don't have any negative self-percptions about carrying any extra weight.
No the body shaming hasent caused it, the Interlization of the what you've heard has caused it. So on based on your rational, we would believe everything that we're told consistently over time, which just isn't the case.
It's all about we frame things on a internal level, and how we apply this narrative to ourselves, also how we make these things mean to us...
Wait I think your self perception might been affected a bit if you're describing yourself as a fat bastard of a train wreck I see so many medium weight men describing themselves as fat, I presume for not being shredded, how do you explain that? "I'll be honest, I'm a sexy bastard..... Now that would more be a fucked up self-perception | |||
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"So the question springs to mind, is this thread more about you and how you view yourself and how your percieved by others? Rather than any body shaming that goes on.... Just some food for thought. Noooo not more food!
So you may not know this if you've never struggled with weight or not been in an environment of sustained fat or other body shaming. When subjected to these attitudes from a young age it destroys your self perception. The effect is that you end up hating the thing you are being shamed for, both in yourself and others. Loads of fat people suffer from internalised fathobia, it can go against your logical beliefs. So yes you made a good point, but body shaming caused it.
Listen I'm a fat bastard of a train wreck, went to a all boys military school, always carried extra weight, was ridiculed and publicly embarrassed about it. But I don't have any negative self-percptions about carrying any extra weight.
No the body shaming hasent caused it, the Interlization of the what you've heard has caused it. So on based on your rational, we would believe everything that we're told consistently over time, which just isn't the case.
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"So the question springs to mind, is this thread more about you and how you view yourself and how your percieved by others? Rather than any body shaming that goes on.... Just some food for thought. Noooo not more food!
So you may not know this if you've never struggled with weight or not been in an environment of sustained fat or other body shaming. When subjected to these attitudes from a young age it destroys your self perception. The effect is that you end up hating the thing you are being shamed for, both in yourself and others. Loads of fat people suffer from internalised fathobia, it can go against your logical beliefs. So yes you made a good point, but body shaming caused it.
Listen I'm a fat bastard of a train wreck, went to a all boys military school, always carried extra weight, was ridiculed and publicly embarrassed about it. But I don't have any negative self-percptions about carrying any extra weight.
No the body shaming hasent caused it, the Interlization of the what you've heard has caused it. So on based on your rational, we would believe everything that we're told consistently over time, which just isn't the case.
It's all about we frame things on a internal level, and how we apply this narrative to ourselves, also how we make these things mean to us...
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Even more dangerous to challenge the hypocrisy of the group as a whole.
Hans, only if there's an innate desire to be liked and accepted by the wider group. "Oh I agree on many levels. Perhaps hypocrisy is innate to humans, as we are in flux: responding to our environment and mood affecting our frame of reference. And it's our lack of acceptance of that, which makes hypocrisy difficult to accept in others? I'm going with that. My issue with hypocrisy is my issue. And now I accept that I find myself not being so concerned with hypocrisy in others. I don't think it was hypocrisy anyway. I thought it was satire. He tried to explain, saw that wasn't the point and owned it. Only Steve knows his mind. | |||
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Even more dangerous to challenge the hypocrisy of the group as a whole.
Hans, only if there's an innate desire to be liked and accepted by the wider group.
Oh I agree on many levels.
Perhaps hypocrisy is innate to humans, as we are in flux: responding to our environment and mood affecting our frame of reference. And it's our lack of acceptance of that, which makes hypocrisy difficult to accept in others?
I'm going with that. My issue with hypocrisy is my issue. And now I accept that I find myself not being so concerned with hypocrisy in others. I don't think it was hypocrisy anyway. I thought it was satire. He tried to explain, saw that wasn't the point and owned it. Only Steve knows his mind.
"I agree whole heartly with your views on hypocrisy. Like anything it's all about that frame of reference that we use to judge things on. Which is so interchangeable with so many variables affecting that, on any given day. Oscillating between it all.. Definitely the lack of acceptance plays an Intregal part in things. | |||
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"Sorry that I was busy so can’t reply to everyone. But I’m not talking about people that are apparently concerned with the health of strangers or any of that shit. I’m talking about fatphobia. I’m talking about people that are horrible to and about fat people and create a culture that shakes fat people for simply daring to exist In certain spaces or at all.
I understood what you meant ftom.your original question, I think like all threads they develop tangents and go a bit of track.
Some on the biggest fat shaming I've read has actually been on fab on most BBW profiles where they are open they are over weight or big or fat whatever they chose to call themselves but are then also very quick to state they are only after men who are slim, athletic and muscular.
I feel they aren't really helping there own cause. They want acceptance of their own overweight body but won't accept in men they want.
Obviously this is not the case for all BBWs and I know there are over weight men wanting only slim women. But how is anyone's mindset going to change if this is acceptable?
There's a difference between fat shaming and having a preference for slim partners.
If you read the OPs question again it's not about fat shaming. It's about fatphobia and people disliking fat people. So my observation about fat people not wanting fat partners fits in with this question.
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"Sorry that I was busy so can’t reply to everyone. But I’m not talking about people that are apparently concerned with the health of strangers or any of that shit. I’m talking about fatphobia. I’m talking about people that are horrible to and about fat people and create a culture that shakes fat people for simply daring to exist In certain spaces or at all.
I understood what you meant ftom.your original question, I think like all threads they develop tangents and go a bit of track.
Some on the biggest fat shaming I've read has actually been on fab on most BBW profiles where they are open they are over weight or big or fat whatever they chose to call themselves but are then also very quick to state they are only after men who are slim, athletic and muscular.
I feel they aren't really helping there own cause. They want acceptance of their own overweight body but won't accept in men they want.
Obviously this is not the case for all BBWs and I know there are over weight men wanting only slim women. But how is anyone's mindset going to change if this is acceptable?
There's a difference between fat shaming and having a preference for slim partners.
If you read the OPs question again it's not about fat shaming. It's about fatphobia and people disliking fat people. So my observation about fat people not wanting fat partners fits in with this question.
Phobia ~ an extreme or irrational fear of something.
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"It's good to discuss it. Just having this conversation this morning while trying some clothes on. It's not good to be fat and overweight nor is it healthy to be underweight. Felt like shit. Unless it serves you well and then good luck to you. I'm fat and overweight and I am because I have eaten too much and the wrong things for too long and don't move enough. I hate it and I'm trying to make some changes. I'd welcome people helping me to be better and healthier. If someone is negative about me... Yeah it bloody hurts but nothing I can do about it and it's nothing I don't tell myself. " I agree with this really. A lot of people are fat and happy and that is wonderful. I’m not. I was fat and it was affecting my life, my confidence, basically everything. I did something about it. I appreciate not everyone can for medical reasons etc. shaming the things that can’t be changed is what annoys me (and weight can sometimes of course be included in that) | |||
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"If someone asks me what I think about someone and they’re big and that’s what I initially noticed I might say that (full disclosure I’m also big and am ok if that’s what someone says about me) I don’t see that as fat shaming personally. Just like if someone was ridiculously tall or short, or really young or old, and that was the first thing I’d noticed I’d probably say that too. Idk is that shaming or just saying what you noticed?" It doesn’t seem nice but that’s not an example of what I’m talking about. | |||
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"I don’t find this common in my friendship circles but that’s probably as it’s normalised with my general life choices. I’m usually more attracted to fuller figured chicks in general too. But this isn’t a deal breaker. Don’t give up hope if you’re one of them slim chicks "Really hope Sam checks out my pics and doesn't recoil in digust. F | |||
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"Op. And I mean this as a woman who has experienced negative comments about my weight, not often but when it's designed to hurt me because my body for so long has been something I'm not comfortable with... At some point you just drown out the crap. Yes, I'm fat, yes I'm aware of it. I'm working on it, take joy in seeing progress photos (hi calves) but I'm not allowing negativity about it to live rent free in my head. I like my body. I like the softness of it. The way it feels when I'm pressed next to a person. The joy in his eyes when he kisses every inch of me. If someone chooses to be a dick about it? That's a them problem. So they want to make lazy stereotypes? Fuck 'em. Sometimes you (a general you!) can spend too much energy on negativity. Worry about your body. About how others perceive you or those similar to you. You end up missing out on things. You don't *have* to be happy with being fat. You don't *have* to be sad you're fat. You can accept you are, work on it *if* you want to. " Well said Meli. It's too easy to get bogged down in others opinions of ourselves to the point of being oversensitive and misreading everything everyone says. Just concentrate on self and let them worry about whatever they want coz ultimately you gotta take care of number one. Love yourself but also understand that you need to take care of yourself physical health and mental health are both as important and go hand in hand. | |||
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