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Dear gentle men, men, blokes, chaps, rogues, charmers, huckleberries and jolly good fellows of the Fab Forå...
Are you feeling weather-beaten, downtrodden and exhausted from all these Fab womanly ne'er-do-wells who have much to shriek and shrill about love and passion but otherwise have very little to say?
They leave a string of broken hearts from which we create inexpensive necklaces to hang around our necks like a hangman's noose.
This thread is your safe harbour, your sanctuary, your wood-pannelled parlour, your Shangri-la and your grey haven. |
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"Dear gentle men, men, blokes, chaps, rogues, charmers, huckleberries and jolly good fellows of the Fab Forå...
Are you feeling weather-beaten, downtrodden and exhausted from all these Fab womanly ne'er-do-wells who have much to shriek and shrill about love and passion but otherwise have very little to say?
They leave a string of broken hearts from which we create inexpensive necklaces to hang around our necks like a hangman's noose.
This thread is your safe harbour, your sanctuary, your wood-pannelled parlour, your Shangri-la and your grey haven."
Just give me boobs n clunge, I'll be in Shangri-la |
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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago
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No place is safe. They just burst in unannounced, without invite just to be vile and unruly. No respect or empathy. They simply don't care and will assert their presence regardless of of what anyone wants or is comfortable with. |
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"Dear gentle men, men, blokes, chaps, rogues, charmers, huckleberries and jolly good fellows of the Fab Forå...
Are you feeling weather-beaten, downtrodden and exhausted from all these Fab womanly ne'er-do-wells who have much to shriek and shrill about love and passion but otherwise have very little to say?
They leave a string of broken hearts from which we create inexpensive necklaces to hang around our necks like a hangman's noose.
This thread is your safe harbour, your sanctuary, your wood-pannelled parlour, your Shangri-la and your grey haven.
Just give me boobs n clunge, I'll be in Shangri-la"
This made me laugh out loud |
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"No place is safe. They just burst in unannounced, without invite just to be vile and unruly. No respect or empathy. They simply don't care and will assert their presence regardless of of what anyone wants or is comfortable with. "
I’ll sneak in and be nice for once |
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"There's a bit of a motif lately to your threads. I know I'm an evil interloper but I hope you're okay, x"
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There are no allegorical references to my threads.
I'm currently authoring my chronicles of men, volume ². |
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"There's a bit of a motif lately to your threads. I know I'm an evil interloper but I hope you're okay, x"
He’s been smelling too much of the wrong Penhaligon. |
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"No place is safe. They just burst in unannounced, without invite just to be vile and unruly. No respect or empathy. They simply don't care and will assert their presence regardless of of what anyone wants or is comfortable with. "
And us gay boys are worse.
Fabbing pics - irrespective of sexuality - as a compliment and in my particular foible sighing with admiration if said pics are monochrome
Shouldn't have done it in Wetherspoons tho |
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"No place is safe. They just burst in unannounced, without invite just to be vile and unruly. No respect or empathy. They simply don't care and will assert their presence regardless of of what anyone wants or is comfortable with. "
I think this is more a characteristic of the kinds of people on Fab. Bending boundaries and thinking rules are arbitrary.
So, men's thread - here's a woman |
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"No place is safe. They just burst in unannounced, without invite just to be vile and unruly. No respect or empathy. They simply don't care and will assert their presence regardless of of what anyone wants or is comfortable with. "
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This should be our Coat of Arms, adorned across our hallowed halls. |
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"No place is safe. They just burst in unannounced, without invite just to be vile and unruly. No respect or empathy. They simply don't care and will assert their presence regardless of of what anyone wants or is comfortable with.
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This should be our Coat of Arms, adorned across our hallowed halls. "
A coat of arms started from a place like this?
Picture a shield that someone's thrown a coat over. On that shield, someone has drawn Homer Simpson's arms |
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Nero, there appear to be some women sneaking into the room. It rather reminds me of Monty Python and the Jehovah incident - but here I feel that the women might be less scared of being caught - that's liberation for you! (whilst I don't think us men folk are going to get off with one little rock being thrown at us )
OFFICIAL: Are there any women here today?
CROWD: No. No. No. No...
OFFICIAL: Very well. By virtue of the authority vested in me--
CULPRIT WOMAN stones MATTHIAS
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"No place is safe. They just burst in unannounced, without invite just to be vile and unruly. No respect or empathy. They simply don't care and will assert their presence regardless of of what anyone wants or is comfortable with.
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This should be our Coat of Arms, adorned across our hallowed halls.
A coat of arms started from a place like this?
Picture a shield that someone's thrown a coat over. On that shield, someone has drawn Homer Simpson's arms"
I sense a T-shirt being printed for the next social... |
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"I am weather beaten. Mother Nature has been taking her toll. What a cow.
(It may actually be Old Father Time's fault, but he's a good bloke so I won't criticise him...)"
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Not today Nero.
Today I am feeling rather positive toward the other Boobiebum Tribe. They have drifted a little close to our side of the river with their fishing. I have my eye on it.
If they send diplomats with offerings of peace I would proceed with caution. Maybe station a garrison near the river, out of sight. I will watch for their scouts. |
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"Dear gentle men, men, blokes, chaps, rogues, charmers, huckleberries and jolly good fellows of the Fab Forå...
Are you feeling weather-beaten, downtrodden and exhausted from all these Fab womanly ne'er-do-wells who have much to shriek and shrill about love and passion but otherwise have very little to say?
They leave a string of broken hearts from which we create inexpensive necklaces to hang around our necks like a hangman's noose.
This thread is your safe harbour, your sanctuary, your wood-pannelled parlour, your Shangri-la and your grey haven."
Nice choice of words |
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"Not today Nero.
Today I am feeling rather positive toward the other Boobiebum Tribe. They have drifted a little close to our side of the river with their fishing. I have my eye on it.
If they send diplomats with offerings of peace I would proceed with caution. Maybe station a garrison near the river, out of sight. I will watch for their scouts."
We would never approach looking for trouble. We bring nothing but pleasure and joy. |
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over a year ago
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"Sneaks in and sidles up to FC... stage whisper * pssst... should we , you know ( gives knowing wink ) deploy things..... skedadles away very quick "
Put the glitter down, now! |
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"No place is safe. They just burst in unannounced, without invite just to be vile and unruly. No respect or empathy. They simply don't care and will assert their presence regardless of of what anyone wants or is comfortable with.
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This should be our Coat of Arms, adorned across our hallowed halls. "
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"Sneaks in and sidles up to FC... stage whisper * pssst... should we , you know ( gives knowing wink ) deploy things..... skedadles away very quick
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Put the glitter down, now!"
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Please, kindly, no glitter! |
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"Sneaks in and sidles up to FC... stage whisper * pssst... should we , you know ( gives knowing wink ) deploy things..... skedadles away very quick
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Put the glitter down, now!
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Please, kindly, no glitter! "
No fear Nero I wouldn't do such a thing really, I was merely creating mischief |
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"Not today Nero.
Today I am feeling rather positive toward the other Boobiebum Tribe. They have drifted a little close to our side of the river with their fishing. I have my eye on it.
If they send diplomats with offerings of peace I would proceed with caution. Maybe station a garrison near the river, out of sight. I will watch for their scouts.
We would never approach looking for trouble. We bring nothing but pleasure and joy. "
Come let us leave this place and find a cave. |
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As much as I appreciate Brother Nero’s efforts to build a place of sanctuary (or places - there’s been a series of these threads!) for the menfolk of this parish, I don’t think I can ever truly say I’m committed to the cause. I’ll forever be the man sneaking out under cover of moonlight to go fraternise with the enemy. Because they’re not my enemy. They’re my favourite thing in the whole damn world. Even when carrying glitter. |
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"As much as I appreciate Brother Nero’s efforts to build a place of sanctuary (or places - there’s been a series of these threads!) for the menfolk of this parish, I don’t think I can ever truly say I’m committed to the cause. I’ll forever be the man sneaking out under cover of moonlight to go fraternise with the enemy. Because they’re not my enemy. They’re my favourite thing in the whole damn world. Even when carrying glitter."
That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it. |
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"That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it."
It’s certainly not my preferred marinade. But it *does* look delightful on their eyelids.
Wait, those are not metaphors I meant to mix. I’m not planning to eat our women. |
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"Not today Nero.
Today I am feeling rather positive toward the other Boobiebum Tribe. They have drifted a little close to our side of the river with their fishing. I have my eye on it.
If they send diplomats with offerings of peace I would proceed with caution. Maybe station a garrison near the river, out of sight. I will watch for their scouts.
We would never approach looking for trouble. We bring nothing but pleasure and joy. "
This is how they get us gentlemen! It’s a trojan horse I tell you! |
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"As much as I appreciate Brother Nero’s efforts to build a place of sanctuary (or places - there’s been a series of these threads!) for the menfolk of this parish, I don’t think I can ever truly say I’m committed to the cause. I’ll forever be the man sneaking out under cover of moonlight to go fraternise with the enemy. Because they’re not my enemy. They’re my favourite thing in the whole damn world. Even when carrying glitter."
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"That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it.
It’s certainly not my preferred marinade. But it *does* look delightful on their eyelids.
Wait, those are not metaphors I meant to mix. I’m not planning to eat our women. "
Oh damn ... |
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"As much as I appreciate Brother Nero’s efforts to build a place of sanctuary (or places - there’s been a series of these threads!) for the menfolk of this parish, I don’t think I can ever truly say I’m committed to the cause. I’ll forever be the man sneaking out under cover of moonlight to go fraternise with the enemy. Because they’re not my enemy. They’re my favourite thing in the whole damn world. Even when carrying glitter."
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I do the same, RTG, I do the same. But I do it with stealth and subterfuge because, heck, my phallus needs regular romanticising. |
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"As much as I appreciate Brother Nero’s efforts to build a place of sanctuary (or places - there’s been a series of these threads!) for the menfolk of this parish, I don’t think I can ever truly say I’m committed to the cause. I’ll forever be the man sneaking out under cover of moonlight to go fraternise with the enemy. Because they’re not my enemy. They’re my favourite thing in the whole damn world. Even when carrying glitter.
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I do the same, RTG, I do the same. But I do it with stealth and subterfuge because, heck, my phallus needs regular romanticising. "
And long words |
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"My instant take away from the thread title was a combination of "gentlemen's relish" and "gentlemen with solid sausages". Hungry now, looking for something savoury to pop into my mouth "
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I can offer an umami flavour. |
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"As much as I appreciate Brother Nero’s efforts to build a place of sanctuary (or places - there’s been a series of these threads!) for the menfolk of this parish, I don’t think I can ever truly say I’m committed to the cause. I’ll forever be the man sneaking out under cover of moonlight to go fraternise with the enemy. Because they’re not my enemy. They’re my favourite thing in the whole damn world. Even when carrying glitter."
Oh, I didn't read this as a battle of the sexes type post, but I think there's a time and place for "guys' time" or whatever you want to call it. And vice versa.
(And I say that as someone who, generally speaking, is more comfortable in female than male company.) |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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Are you feeling weather-beaten, downtrodden and exhausted from all these Fab womanly ne'er-do-wells who have much to shriek and shrill about love and passion but otherwise have very little to say?
Are you saying we're vacuous? |
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"Are you feeling weather-beaten, downtrodden and exhausted from all these Fab womanly ne'er-do-wells who have much to shriek and shrill about love and passion but otherwise have very little to say?
Are you saying we're vacuous?"
No way - women are also pretty and have tits!! Just adding that in case people missed it!! |
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"As much as I appreciate Brother Nero’s efforts to build a place of sanctuary (or places - there’s been a series of these threads!) for the menfolk of this parish, I don’t think I can ever truly say I’m committed to the cause. I’ll forever be the man sneaking out under cover of moonlight to go fraternise with the enemy. Because they’re not my enemy. They’re my favourite thing in the whole damn world. Even when carrying glitter.
That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it."
And back to the sausages again... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What piece of work is a man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving, how express and admirable in action, how like an angel in apprehension, how like a god! … we salute you for allowing us safe haven, praise be yours OP |
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"As much as I appreciate Brother Nero’s efforts to build a place of sanctuary (or places - there’s been a series of these threads!) for the menfolk of this parish, I don’t think I can ever truly say I’m committed to the cause. I’ll forever be the man sneaking out under cover of moonlight to go fraternise with the enemy. Because they’re not my enemy. They’re my favourite thing in the whole damn world. Even when carrying glitter.
That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it."
No, but you can adorn said meat with (edible) glitter afterwards and made it both practical and beautiful. |
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"Not today Nero.
Today I am feeling rather positive toward the other Boobiebum Tribe. They have drifted a little close to our side of the river with their fishing. I have my eye on it.
If they send diplomats with offerings of peace I would proceed with caution. Maybe station a garrison near the river, out of sight. I will watch for their scouts.
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We would never approach looking for trouble. We bring nothing but pleasure and joy. "
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Are you an ambassadress of love? |
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"That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it.
It’s certainly not my preferred marinade. But it *does* look delightful on their eyelids.
Wait, those are not metaphors I meant to mix. I’m not planning to eat our women. "
Woman taste good, but not for eating. Deer good for eating: woman have eyes of Doe, sometimes eat man heart.
Talking makes Hans laugh. Hans likes Nero's word magic and your metaphoric marinade. But Hans hungry: must eat. |
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"Not today Nero.
Today I am feeling rather positive toward the other Boobiebum Tribe. They have drifted a little close to our side of the river with their fishing. I have my eye on it.
If they send diplomats with offerings of peace I would proceed with caution. Maybe station a garrison near the river, out of sight. I will watch for their scouts.
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We would never approach looking for trouble. We bring nothing but pleasure and joy.
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Are you an ambassadress of love?"
I am indeed.
Well, love of the free kind. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"We don't leave broken hearts.
Men don't have hearts they have blocks of granite.
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For every heart-shaped block of granite there is a Medusa. "
Wouldn't life be easier if humans were androgynous. |
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"We don't leave broken hearts.
Men don't have hearts they have blocks of granite.
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For every heart-shaped block of granite there is a Medusa.
You rang?"
The laugh of the medusa... écriture féminine |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"What piece of work is a man, how noble in reason, how infinite in faculties, in form and moving, how express and admirable in action, how like an angel in apprehension, how like a god! … we salute you for allowing us safe haven, praise be yours OP"
You always make me fancy a Gregg's sausage roll |
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"That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it.
It’s certainly not my preferred marinade. But it *does* look delightful on their eyelids.
Wait, those are not metaphors I meant to mix. I’m not planning to eat our women.
Woman taste good, but not for eating. Deer good for eating: woman have eyes of Doe, sometimes eat man heart.
Talking makes Hans laugh. Hans likes Nero's word magic and your metaphoric marinade. But Hans hungry: must eat."
Sandwich?? |
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"That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it.
It’s certainly not my preferred marinade. But it *does* look delightful on their eyelids.
Wait, those are not metaphors I meant to mix. I’m not planning to eat our women.
Woman taste good, but not for eating. Deer good for eating: woman have eyes of Doe, sometimes eat man heart.
Talking makes Hans laugh. Hans likes Nero's word magic and your metaphoric marinade. But Hans hungry: must eat.
Sandwich??"
Oh yes please. |
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"As much as I appreciate Brother Nero’s efforts to build a place of sanctuary (or places - there’s been a series of these threads!) for the menfolk of this parish, I don’t think I can ever truly say I’m committed to the cause. I’ll forever be the man sneaking out under cover of moonlight to go fraternise with the enemy. Because they’re not my enemy. They’re my favourite thing in the whole damn world. Even when carrying glitter.
That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it.
No, but you can adorn said meat with (edible) glitter afterwards and made it both practical and beautiful. "
**Chomps on sandwich**
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"Dear gentle men, men, blokes, chaps, rogues, charmers, huckleberries and jolly good fellows of the Fab Forå...
Are you feeling weather-beaten, downtrodden and exhausted from all these Fab womanly ne'er-do-wells who have much to shriek and shrill about love and passion but otherwise have very little to say?
They leave a string of broken hearts from which we create inexpensive necklaces to hang around our necks like a hangman's noose.
This thread is your safe harbour, your sanctuary, your wood-pannelled parlour, your Shangri-la and your grey haven."
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"We don't leave broken hearts.
Men don't have hearts they have blocks of granite.
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For every heart-shaped block of granite there is a Medusa.
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You rang?"
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It wouldn't be the first time if I did. |
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"That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it.
It’s certainly not my preferred marinade. But it *does* look delightful on their eyelids.
Wait, those are not metaphors I meant to mix. I’m not planning to eat our women.
Woman taste good, but not for eating. Deer good for eating: woman have eyes of Doe, sometimes eat man heart.
Talking makes Hans laugh. Hans likes Nero's word magic and your metaphoric marinade. But Hans hungry: must eat.
Sandwich??
Oh yes please. "
What would you like?? |
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"We don't leave broken hearts.
Men don't have hearts they have blocks of granite.
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For every heart-shaped block of granite there is a Medusa.
You rang?"
ffs |
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By *edeWoman
over a year ago
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"I've definitely not left any broken hearts - does that make me more of a guy
Your new photos have left me solid though, Cede. Wait … is that not the kind of solidarity we were talking about?
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Oh dear, you may have to leave the thread |
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"Not today Nero.
Today I am feeling rather positive toward the other Boobiebum Tribe. They have drifted a little close to our side of the river with their fishing. I have my eye on it.
If they send diplomats with offerings of peace I would proceed with caution. Maybe station a garrison near the river, out of sight. I will watch for their scouts.
We would never approach looking for trouble. We bring nothing but pleasure and joy. "
Splendid! Pulls up club chair nearer the fire and annouces "I'll have a double" with a voice that matches the cut glass one expects it to be served in. |
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"I've definitely not left any broken hearts - does that make me more of a guy
Your new photos have left me solid though, Cede. Wait … is that not the kind of solidarity we were talking about?
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Oh dear, you may have to leave the thread "
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RTG is our salacious silkworm who spins the ultimate threads. He remains...for now... |
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"That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it.
It’s certainly not my preferred marinade. But it *does* look delightful on their eyelids.
Wait, those are not metaphors I meant to mix. I’m not planning to eat our women.
Woman taste good, but not for eating. Deer good for eating: woman have eyes of Doe, sometimes eat man heart.
Talking makes Hans laugh. Hans likes Nero's word magic and your metaphoric marinade. But Hans hungry: must eat.
Sandwich??
Oh yes please.
What would you like??"
Meats:
My favourite is a Philly cheese-steak, but that's a lot of effort. Still, we are in imagination land. |
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"That's why I like fires it gets cold in the woods. Glitter is nice but you can't cook meat with it.
It’s certainly not my preferred marinade. But it *does* look delightful on their eyelids.
Wait, those are not metaphors I meant to mix. I’m not planning to eat our women.
Woman taste good, but not for eating. Deer good for eating: woman have eyes of Doe, sometimes eat man heart.
Talking makes Hans laugh. Hans likes Nero's word magic and your metaphoric marinade. But Hans hungry: must eat.
Sandwich??
Oh yes please.
What would you like??
Meats:
My favourite is a Philly cheese-steak, but that's a lot of effort. Still, we are in imagination land. "
Coming right up x |
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"Is the necklace a leather thong? That surfer dude style is due a resurgence! Happy to break a few hearts in the name of style
J"
No, Julie. Just no. Only acceptable is dressing up as Dodgy for a 90s party. |
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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago
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"Wouldn't life be easier if humans were androgynous.
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Yep. But also more boring.
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And how would we locate the zone of the erogenous on the pubic bone of the androgynous?"
A small sacrifice to pay, don't you think?
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"Is the necklace a leather thong? That surfer dude style is due a resurgence! Happy to break a few hearts in the name of style
J
You broke mine months ago "
But the necklace is pretty so it's not all bad
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"Is the necklace a leather thong? That surfer dude style is due a resurgence! Happy to break a few hearts in the name of style
J
No, Julie. Just no. Only acceptable is dressing up as Dodgy for a 90s party."
If it's good enough for you, it's good enough for me...
J |
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"Is the necklace a leather thong? That surfer dude style is due a resurgence! Happy to break a few hearts in the name of style
J
No, Julie. Just no. Only acceptable is dressing up as Dodgy for a 90s party.
If it's good enough for you, it's good enough for me...
J"
I Ain't No Longer Asking. I'm telling - step away from the dodgy leather necklace.
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"Is the necklace a leather thong? That surfer dude style is due a resurgence! Happy to break a few hearts in the name of style
J
No, Julie. Just no. Only acceptable is dressing up as Dodgy for a 90s party.
If it's good enough for you, it's good enough for me...
J"
It's good enough for two, it's what I want to see |
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"Is the necklace a leather thong? That surfer dude style is due a resurgence! Happy to break a few hearts in the name of style
J
No, Julie. Just no. Only acceptable is dressing up as Dodgy for a 90s party.
If it's good enough for you, it's good enough for me...
J
It's good enough for two, it's what I want to see"
Fucking Nora there's an earworm
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"Nero was trying to create a safe space from women except we snuck in and I threatened to set off glitter "
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Just imagine my tongue running from the uber sensitive parts of your derrière, seductively up your spine to the back of your neck. Hopefully putting you off the 'glittergate'. |
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"Nero was trying to create a safe space from women except we snuck in and I threatened to set off glitter
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Just imagine my tongue running from the uber sensitive parts of your derrière, seductively up your spine to the back of your neck. Hopefully putting you off the 'glittergate'."
Well now you've said it... are you going to follow through?? |
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"What on earth happened to this thread
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It became barrel-aged and improved like the finest of vintage Ports. May I pour you a glass? "
Only if it’s a shot. |
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"Dear gentle men, men, blokes, chaps, rogues, charmers, huckleberries and jolly good fellows of the Fab Forå...
Are you feeling weather-beaten, downtrodden and exhausted from all these Fab womanly ne'er-do-wells who have much to shriek and shrill about love and passion but otherwise have very little to say?
They leave a string of broken hearts from which we create inexpensive necklaces to hang around our necks like a hangman's noose.
This thread is your safe harbour, your sanctuary, your wood-pannelled parlour, your Shangri-la and your grey haven."
I’ve never shrieked or shrilled about love, I definitely have plenty to say . I am certain I e never even scratched a heart, much less broken one.
Therefore no safe harbour is required from me. I shall steal away the rebels from your panelled parlour. Like the wily siren |
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"And from whence they cometh they still do
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They are like the Orcs scaling the walls of Helm's Deep, in unrelenting droves."
Yes, we're orcs
That's why we spend so much on cosmetics. To hide our true selvessssss *hiss* |
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"And from whence they cometh they still do
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They are like the Orcs scaling the walls of Helm's Deep, in unrelenting droves."
We must hold until the fifth day. At dawn, Gandalf shall cometh atop the hill to the east! |
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"Nero was trying to create a safe space from women except we snuck in and I threatened to set off glitter "
There is no safe space for men. You just have to stay alert and prepared.. |
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"And from whence they cometh they still do
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They are like the Orcs scaling the walls of Helm's Deep, in unrelenting droves.
We must hold until the fifth day. At dawn, Gandalf shall cometh atop the hill to the east! "
Oh my brothers, stay steadfast, do not be tempted by their sweet looks, it is mere sorcery ! We shall prevail in the end, fear not as from the depth of hell from which they cameth they shall return! |
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